WEBVTT 00:00:01.439 --> 00:00:03.960 good evening everyone I am councelor 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:06.160 Denise Massoud Mayor of Whitehorse City 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:08.599 Council and I welcome all who have 00:00:08.679 --> 00:00:12.039 joined us this evening both in person 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:14.519 and online it is lovely to see so many 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:17.359 here in the gallery this evening Council 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:19.519 live streams Council meetings and a copy 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:21.359 of the live stream will be available for 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:25.359 viewing on council's website within 48 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:28.440 hours I now formally open this council 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:30.879 meeting and will recite the opening and 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:33.560 acknowledgement of country please stand 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:36.439 if you are able to 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:43.479 we give thanks oh God for the men and 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:45.520 women of the past whose generous 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:47.600 devotion to the common good has been the 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:50.439 making of our city grant that our own 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:52.600 generation may build worthily on the 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:55.280 foundations they have laid direct our 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:57.719 minds that all we plan and determine is 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:01.640 for the well-being of our city Amen 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:04.400 Whitehorse City council acknowledges 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:07.359 the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung people of the Kulin 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:09.959 Nations as the traditional owners of the 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:12.040 land we are meeting on and we pay our 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:14.239 respects to their Elders past present 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:17.400 and emerging and to any Aboriginal and 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:19.079 Torres Strait Islanders from 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:21.359 communities who may be present 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:25.879 today please be seated 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:33.920 I would now like to introduce our 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:36.480 counselors and senior officers 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:39.120 commencing with councilors on my left 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:40.480 councelor Andrew Davenport 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:43.040 good evening and 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:46.120 welcome councilor Tina Liu good evening 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:49.079 and welcome to all councelor Trudy 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:51.280 Skilbeck thank you mayor good evening a 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:53.000 very warm welcome to 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:56.079 all councelor Mark Lane good evening and 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:57.560 a very warm welcome to all in the 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:01.040 gallery and those tuning in online 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:03.680 councilor Prue Cutts good evening everyone 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:06.000 here in the gallery and those online 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:07.000 thank you Mayor 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.879 councelor Amanda McNeill 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:12.479 evening everybody and a warm 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:14.639 welcome to those in the gallery and 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:17.919 those listening at home online 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:20.680 councelor Ben Stennett good 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:21.919 evening everyone 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.560 welcome councelor Andrew Munroe good 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:26.599 evening all and a very warm 00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:30.120 welcome Councilor Blair Barker good evening 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:32.520 Mayor thank you and I'd like to extend 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:35.120 a warm welcome to everyone here tonight 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:37.199 particularly encouraging to see 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:39.439 members of our ? ? 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:42.039 community those that are into 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:44.080 truthfulness compassion and 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.520 forbearance so horrendously oppressed 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:49.319 in other parts of the world to see that 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:51.680 they're here engaging in our democracy 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:53.479 and hopefully asking a question or 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.000 making a presentation it really warms my 00:02:56.080 --> 00:03:00.159 heart welcome my friends 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:03.199 we are also joined by the CEO and senior 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:05.280 officers I will commence with the chief 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:08.240 executive officer Simon McMillan good 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:09.680 evening everyone and 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:13.879 welcome Stuart Cann director corporate 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:18.000 services Jeff Green director city 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:20.520 development Lisa Letic director 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:22.199 community services 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:26.719 Steven White director 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:29.919 infrastructure Shiovan Sullivan 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:34.039 is absent this evening Vivien Fellano 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:36.960 manager governance and 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:40.879 integrity Andrea Gastine 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:44.879 representing the transformation 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:48.800 team we will note any apologies and seek 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:52.280 a motion to accept any leave of absence 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.159 requests at the council meeting held on 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:58.800 the 25th of March 2024 councelor Carr 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:01.159 applied for and was granted a leave of 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:04.280 absence for tonight's meeting this is 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:07.319 noted are there any other apologies of 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:10.719 leave of absence 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:15.319 requests there being none I move to 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:17.680 disclosures of interest are there any 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:20.680 disclosures of interest if so I will 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:22.759 require counselors and officers to 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:24.920 disclose that interest and the nature of 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:28.279 that interest 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:34.199 there being none we move to confirmation 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:35.360 of minutes 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:37.720 confirmation of the minutes of 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:39.839 the ordinary meeting of council that was 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:42.800 held on the 15th of April 2024 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:46.040 can I please have a counselor to move 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:47.240 and 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:49.160 second happy to 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:52.360 move happy to 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:56.600 second I heard councelor Cutts first and 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.240 I think councelor Stennett was also 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:00.879 trying to move I'll take you as the 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:04.120 second and thank you councelors 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:07.279 you I put that motion to the vote all 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:09.360 those in 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:13.079 favor it's carried 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:16.920 unanimously the next item on our agenda 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:19.000 is urgent business but we do not have 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:22.439 any items of urgent business for this 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:25.560 evening that moves to item six which is 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:27.000 public presentations 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:29.839 public presentations and 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.439 members of the community to make 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:33.279 presentations to 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:35.920 council public presentations will not 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:38.639 exceed 30 minutes in duration that's 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.199 total speakers must register on 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:43.800 council's website by no later than 12:00 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:46.399 noon on the day of the council meeting 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.720 with a maximum of 10 persons being 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.439 granted up to 3 minutes to present their 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.240 subject matter there are six 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:56.600 presentations 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:59.439 tonight the first speaker is addressing 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:01.800 the the petition at item 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.600 8.1 regarding street parking on Bedford 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:09.120 Street Box Hill I invite Trevor Hudson 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:12.959 of Box Hill to the lecturn to 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:24.319 speak thank you this petition requests 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:28.240 Bedford Street to be one sided parking 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.120 clearly residents 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:32.800 redevelopment of the properties over the 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:34.720 recent years has led to significant 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:36.920 growth in the street which has changed 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:41.279 traffic flow which is now very slow to 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:44.120 pass myself been a professional driver 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:47.759 for over 40 years which when we moved 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:50.279 into Bedford Heights estate over one 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:51.519 year 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.360 ago so if you were traveling down 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:57.279 Canterbury Road wanting to turn left 00:06:57.360 --> 00:06:59.680 into Bedford Street immediately you 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:02.480 blindsided with cars either side of the 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:06.319 road making this incredibly difficult to 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:10.040 see oncoming cars now so you have 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:12.759 traffic cars parked either side of the 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.040 street so you're turning left into 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:19.000 Bedford Street nowhere to go full stop 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:21.360 then if you could imagine then at 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:24.079 night time you're having a car coming 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:26.879 opposite you you're blinded at night 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:30.160 with the headlights of that 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:34.319 then also we've been informed at 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:35.560 through 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:39.920 deliveries of with the the estate of say 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:41.759 a semi-trailer wanting to come down 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.240 can't come down we've been informed full 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:47.560 stop they can't can't access the street 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:49.120 they've been told you're going to have 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:52.120 to send a smaller truck to that I've 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:56.399 also contacted JJ waste who said that it 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:59.680 isn't a problem for us because we train 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:03.399 our drivers for a 6 weeks course but he 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:07.920 did say that it is a problem for us 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:09.959 in that it takes us longer in that 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:12.879 particular street to do our deliveries 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:16.040 to pick up the waste but he did state 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:18.639 that it's his concern is it's more of a 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:23.120 safety issue than anything else 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:25.360 throughout the year yes there are 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:28.000 various sporting events at the the ovals 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:30.600 which is fantastic for the community 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.759 but then it creates more of an issue in 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:35.720 that the parking in the street is 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:38.879 completely blocked so there are no car 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:41.320 spots at all and and you cannot get out 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:44.600 of the estate at all full stop 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:48.759 and this creates a hazard which I do 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:52.080 believe is an accident waiting to happen 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:54.000 where if there was only one side of the 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:56.360 street it would be more of 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:00.440 a not so much of a challenge 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:04.279 my last point is that I couldn't 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:06.679 stress highly enough that it is 00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:09.639 dangerous and it is a safety concern at 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:11.200 the last thing we want to see is that 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.759 someone being knocked over because of 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:15.759 people walking especially in between 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:19.039 cars as you can imagine young children 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:21.279 you cannot predict what they're going to 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:23.120 do even 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:27.200 though sorry 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.879 thank you 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:49.399 and you articulated the issues 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:51.279 quite clearly thank 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:54.159 you second and third presentations this 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:57.360 evening are regarding item 10.2 proposed 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:01.600 land transactions in Box Hill I invite 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:04.320 Vincent Manelli to speak on behalf of 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:08.039 the Box Hill Brick Works Parkland 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:10.840 Association I now call Vincent to the 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:13.919 lecturn 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:25.600 come well thank you for this evening 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:27.360 thank you for the opportunity to share a 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:29.240 few words some words that I'm very pass 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:32.799 passionate about so a big thanks to 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:35.360 counselor Liu and to some of the other 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:36.679 counselors for their 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:41.480 input and also thanks to Jeff Green and 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:44.320 Lee Morris as well as our local MP 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:47.120 Paul Hummer for his time in meeting us for 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:50.200 a discussion about the brick work 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:53.279 site my brief words here follow the 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:55.600 summary comments we sent you before this 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:57.519 evening's 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:00.240 meeting we come you guided and share a 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:03.480 strong message and that is to secure and 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:06.399 preserve the old brick work site for now 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:09.039 and for future generations and for 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:10.720 park for their 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:13.679 parklands this is not a luxury it is 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.600 a must have an open Green Space for 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:18.919 families to come together for 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:20.879 communities to come together to bring 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:25.120 cultures together and for our own mental 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:28.799 health this thought imagine 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:31.000 living in a very small dwelling and 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:33.360 living all 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:37.440 alone this this parkland could provide 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.960 much needed fresh air and vitamin 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:44.320 D a green open space we can be proud of 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:46.960 within our ever growing 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:49.960 population we strongly support Council 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:51.799 the state government and the suburban 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:54.159 rail loop authority all working 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:57.240 together for a positive outcome for our 00:11:57.320 --> 00:12:00.039 wonderful community 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:02.320 thank you very much for this opportunity 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:03.600 thank you 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:06.720 thank you Vincent certainly 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:09.639 something we're all very mindful of 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:12.320 and supportive of we 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:15.159 hope state government is 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:19.279 listening I now invite Yvonne Boer to 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:21.519 speak on behalf of the Surrey Hills and Mont 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:24.799 Albert Progress Association I call Yvonne 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:26.919 to the lecturn thank you for the 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.360 opportunity to speak tonight our 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:31.039 association thanks officers for 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.200 preparing their report and we support 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.080 their recommendation that Council 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:36.919 authorize further engagement with the 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.600 suburban rail loop authority to obtain 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:42.320 long-term public open space outcomes in 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:43.240 Box Hill 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.080 public open space shouldn't be 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:47.879 thought of as a luxury something that's 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:50.840 nice to have but isn't really necessary 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:52.639 apart from the obvious benefit of 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:55.200 increasing the general amenity and 00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:59.159 livability of an area access to quality 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:01.320 public open space has positive health 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:04.240 benefits including for mental health for 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.200 people of all 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:09.039 ages it also assists in reducing the 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.879 heat island effect in urban areas and 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:13.519 this will worsen with increased 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:15.480 densification of our 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:17.399 suburbs there are many important 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:19.320 benefits for the environment too such as 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:21.759 maintaining habitat for local 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:24.240 fauna with the forecast population of 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:26.840 Box Hill to increase more than three-fold 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.919 more open space is required 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:31.639 data from White Horse Council predicts 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:34.840 that by 2056 the ratio of public open 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:37.720 space per resident will reduce from 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:42.600 19.11m squared to 7.15m squared 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:45.120 Surrey Hills and Mont Albert have 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:46.840 some of the lowest amounts of public 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:50.519 open space per capita in Melbourne in 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.080 2007 the two suburbs averaged just 2% 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:56.919 public open space with 5 square meters 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:57.960 per 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:01.000 capita forward to 2024 and there's 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.159 been no appreciable increase for these 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:05.759 suburbs furthermore with the creation of 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:07.879 the new Union Station there's been a 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:10.360 loss of open space at Lorne parade 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:13.399 Reserve Surrey Hills and Mont Albert has seen 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:15.600 and will continue to see increased 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.159 densification for example the SRLA 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:20.360 precinct planning document forecasts 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:22.440 increased density housing to be 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:25.000 implemented in areas of both 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:28.039 suburbs this puts additional pressure on 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:30.879 the already limited open space we 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:33.720 have many in the community including our 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:35.840 association are advocating for the brick 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:37.879 work site to be developed into open 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:40.480 space akin to Darabin 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:43.399 Parklands this is the last available 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.360 large open space in the heart of 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:48.919 Box Hill the creation of Parkland here 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:50.960 would not only benefit residents of 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:53.519 Box Hill but also for residents of 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:56.200 Surrey Hills Mont Albert and other surrounding 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:58.440 suburbs thank you for the opportunity to 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:00.360 speak tonight 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:02.919 thank you Yvonne 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:12.279 the next two presentations are 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:14.879 regarding Easy Ride cycle 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:17.919 routes Irene Moser will speak on behalf 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:19.919 of the White Horse active transport 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:23.799 action group I now call Irene to the 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:28.519 lecturn thank you Madame Mayor counselors I 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:30.679 am an associate professor at Swinburn 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:33.720 with 16 years 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:37.039 experience research post PhD and I'm 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:40.320 presenting a few select findings of a 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:43.039 vak survey into the easy ride routes that 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.240 we conducted late last year you can 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:49.080 follow the slide slide two Council 00:15:49.159 --> 00:15:52.200 streets in Melbourne are 50kmh car 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:55.759 Canyons the ER RS are not much different 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:58.440 except for some painted bicycles and 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:01.919 other signage for cycling safety is the 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:04.759 biggest concern in the absence of 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:07.279 infrastructure or infrastructure for 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.799 cyclists cycling safety on ER RS depends 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:14.000 entirely on drivers being informed and 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:17.240 considerate slide three so we asked 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:19.480 respondents whether they know when they 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:23.480 are driving on an easy ride route and 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:27.000 only 28% do know when they are driving 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:29.799 on an easy ride route although the vast 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:31.919 majority of the 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:35.679 respondents are cyclists because that's 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:38.200 the demographic we were targeting on the 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:41.759 gardener Greek path almost all drivers 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.799 who know that they're on an ER report 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:46.240 accommodating 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:49.600 cyclists in some way being polite 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.919 giving priority slowing down but they 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:56.440 also say that they do that most of the 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.000 time on other streets as well because 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:01.440 they are cyclist and they know what it's 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:06.480 like slide four so we asked do cyclists 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:08.680 use the Easy Ride 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:13.279 routs that's important and 45% of the 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:16.680 respondents say they do take detours to 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:20.359 make most to make the most of available 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:24.240 Easy Ride routes 75% of these 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:27.279 respondents feel at least a little safer 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:29.440 on Easy Ride routes 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.680 the question is is this a false sense of 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:36.240 security if less than a third of the 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:39.519 drivers among the cyclist drivers know 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:42.119 that they're on an easy ride 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:45.880 route so Slide Five what should council 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:48.480 do what are we asking council do can you 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.119 please read the full report we had 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:56.200 176 survey responses and the respondents 00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:00.680 have strong views and Divergent views 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:04.440 of what they should be doing and 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:06.880 they also asked for the ER RS to be 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:09.119 publicized further thank you for the 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:12.000 opportunity to 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:15.039 speak thank you 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.160 Arin David Morrison will speak on behalf 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:20.559 of the combined residents of White Horse 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:23.960 active transport Action Group I now call 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:27.680 David to the Lector 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:35.039 mayor and councilors and Council 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:39.200 officers following on from Irene's 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:41.759 presentation we encourage Council and 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:44.720 Council officers to take the report 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:49.200 seriously and in doing so it would 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:52.079 support Council to join the islands to 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:55.200 remove the barriers and show the way 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:57.359 active transport doesn't have doesn't 00:18:57.440 --> 00:18:59.960 involve cars it's about walking 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:01.680 cycling 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:04.720 scooting and public transport and is 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:06.680 available to everyone whether they own a 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:09.640 car or not in White Horse approximately 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:14.000 20% of residents people too young to 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:17.559 drive a car others don't own cars and if 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:19.680 it was easy to walk that'd cycle or 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:23.119 skirt or choose to leave their car at 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.160 home active transport removes cars from 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:28.759 roads and has Financial mental and and 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:31.880 physical health benefits so improving 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:33.559 active transport opportunities is a 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:36.279 winner for everyone white horse has 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:39.880 about one car for each person 181,000 in 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:41.000 20 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:46.359 2021 increasing to 9 by 9,000 by next 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:49.640 year cars are getting larger and most 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:52.079 people are choosing to buy larger cars 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:55.359 larger SVS for instance these changes in 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:57.599 car ownership are being matched by the 00:19:57.680 --> 00:19:59.319 rapid uptake of electric microt 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:02.519 transport E Scooters and ebikes across 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:06.160 Victoria e scooter ownership is about 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:10.279 100,000 and last year 280,000 ebikes 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:12.920 were imported into Australia this means 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:15.200 bikes and scooters are competing with 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:18.759 more and larger cars driving and parking 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:21.640 on our streets and arterial roads which 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:23.640 are considered unsafe by most people 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:25.279 using scooters and 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:27.559 Cycles our foot paaths are now a 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:29.400 Battleground 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:31.519 with pedestrians including mothers with 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:33.480 babies and elderly competing with ever 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:35.920 increasing nbers of bikes and 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:39.039 scooters pedestrian scooter and bicycle 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:43.200 injury presentations to hospitals are 00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:45.839 increasing the wat survey demonstrates 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:47.200 the need for better cycling 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:49.039 infrastructure and awareness 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:51.759 raising social changes for transport 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:53.759 options and growing population density 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:56.440 requires better Council 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:59.400 response more safe cycling Roots better 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:01.200 connections to Neighborhood centers 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:03.920 sporting and Recreation areas and 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:05.680 schools will benefit 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:08.480 everyone the wag report is a significant 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:10.559 piece of 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:14.160 work and it supports council's 2016 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:17.240 cycle strategy goals to deliver a 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:20.400 connected Network deliver comprehensive 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:24.079 cycling education and Advocate state 00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:26.519 agencies for improved cycling facilities 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:28.680 counselors we call on you to join the 00:21:28.759 --> 00:21:33.720 islands remove the barriers and show the 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:37.839 way thank you 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:40.839 David our final presentation tonight is 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:43.799 regarding guidelines of activation pods 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:45.400 and han rights 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:48.599 assessments I invite Tina sofos to the 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:50.599 lecturn to speak on behalf of the fail 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:54.119 and dafa Box Hill 00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:58.960 Branch thank you good evening Madame 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:01.359 mayor counselors and Mr 00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:03.559 McMillan I'll be reading a letter on 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:06.720 behalf of qu Shang fan pres president of 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:08.680 the fanda association of 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:11.400 Victoria I write to you today to express 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:13.960 my deep concerns regarding recent 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:15.799 correspondents from White Horse City 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:17.960 council's engineering and investment 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:20.559 Department regarding the ongoing use of 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:22.720 the activation pod in Box Hill mall by 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:25.319 feland Duffer practitioners as you may 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:27.119 know feland Duffer practitioners have 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:30.680 been in attendance at this mall in Stall 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:34.400 in Box Hill mall for over 20 years without 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:36.839 incident to help others understand the 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:38.880 han rights violations carried out by 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:41.240 the Chinese Communist party and many of 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:43.920 those in attendance are refugees who 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:46.599 have experienced this persecution 00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:48.839 firsthand the site has never been a 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:51.200 commercial Enterprise and most people we 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:53.480 talk to in the mall are very thankful 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:56.160 for our volunteers efforts it gives 00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:58.160 Chinese Australians the courage to adopt 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:00.279 a Australian values and better 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:03.079 assimilate to Australian Society many 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:05.279 Chinese feel threatened and fearful to 00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:07.799 go against the party line and upon 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:10.200 seeing us have the courage to let go of 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:13.400 their fear and adopt Australian values 00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:15.359 recently the department asked for our 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.000 han rights materials to be submitted 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.160 for review to which it was stated that 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:23.119 certain materials were deemed 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:25.559 inappropriate as it doesn't align with 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:28.519 council's activation pod guidelines and 00:23:28.599 --> 00:23:31.960 han rights assessments the flyer is in 00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:34.240 question merely pointed out han rights 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:36.200 violations carried out by the Chinese 00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:39.440 Communist Party against its own citizens 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:41.480 with an aim to make people aware of 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:44.160 these horrific acts especially those 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:46.720 newly arrived from mainland China who 00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:49.039 have not previously had access to free 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:51.400 information that we so often take for 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:53.920 granted in Australia I would like to 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:56.119 question why the council would choose to 00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:58.920 censor this information this this fly is 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:00.920 used all around the world and in no 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:03.200 place other than mainland China has it 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:04.720 ever been since 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.640 it does the council stand for our 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:10.799 Australian democratic values or does it 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.920 stand aligned with the Chinese Communist 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.079 Party a regime that has killed and 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.079 persecuted millions of its own citizens 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:20.319 merely for believing in truthfulness 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:23.200 compassion tolerance I understand that 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:25.440 some Chinese people that have escaped 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:28.000 communist rule in China begin to support 00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:30.279 the Chinese Communist Party once in 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:32.640 Australia due to the benefits they 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:35.359 received by doing so several Chinese 00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:37.720 students that practice fall andaa 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:40.039 reported reported being persecuted by 00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:42.720 CCP officials in China to become spies 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:44.880 for the CCP upon their return to 00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:47.000 Australia and we understand others are 00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:49.680 paid to disrupt our activities some also 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:51.839 do not wish others to enjoy the freedoms 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:54.079 that we have in Australia for example 00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:56.519 the right to free speech potentially 00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:58.680 they also do not understand these 00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:01.559 freedoms due to being raised in com 00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:04.119 communist China as discussed with the 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:05.880 council in the past this stall is not a 00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:08.319 commercial Enterprise rather a han 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:10.440 rights activity and therefore does not 00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:13.240 require ongoing permits as previously 00:25:13.319 --> 00:25:15.440 agreed we continue to phone the council 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:17.359 to check the availability of the site 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:19.720 before we attend and if occupied by 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:21.839 another group we find other suitable 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:25.640 locations within the mall the Lo we just 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:28.559 wanted to say thank you thank is up but 00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:30.880 thank 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:39.119 you well thank you to everyone that 00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:41.200 concludes our public presentations for 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:42.720 this 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.559 evening the next item on the agenda is 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:47.960 public question time and we have no 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:53.880 public questions to be heard this 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:57.160 evening item eight is petitions and 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.240 Joint letters 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:02.920 a petition concerning the street parking 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.440 on Bedford Street Box Hill and signed by 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:11.119 113 sign signatories in support has been 00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:13.279 received can I please have a counselor 00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:16.559 to move and second happy to move mayor 00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:18.920 happy to Second mayor thank you Council 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.079 Liu and Council 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:25.519 Barker I now put the motion all those in 00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:28.599 favor 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:32.680 petition is received 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:50.240 unanimously we now move to item 00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:53.960 nine which is notices of motion and we 00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:59.039 have two notices of motion this evening 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.519 we haven't G the first one is item 9.1 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.599 notice of motion councelor Barker has 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:13.920 submitted regarding vacant properties 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:17.039 and housing 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:20.400 Supply councilor Bara well thank you 00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:22.680 very much may and I I do move and with 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:24.720 one small delution which is the line 00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:28.599 regarding the 00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:31.200 correlation between I I'll let the 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:34.039 officers bring it up there I'll show you 00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:36.640 that's all right 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.599 Karen just deleting Point D of one 00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:45.039 may whether there's any anecdotal 00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:47.000 evidence indicating correlation 00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:51.359 between vacancy rights and right 00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:58.240 delinquency so effectively May the 00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:01.359 general without we'll just delete 00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:03.119 item D 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:05.720 yeah now that's done do you have a 00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:08.440 second happy to Second mayor thank you 00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:10.319 councilor 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:13.880 dport Council Barker thank may this 00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:16.000 notice of motion calls for officers to 00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:19.119 report to Council on the feasibility of 00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:20.799 discovering and then levying higher 00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:23.839 rates on long-term vacant properties to 00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:26.720 unlock housing Supply I'm a fierce 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:28.359 protector of individual proper property 00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:30.680 rights I've never voted to support 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.640 retrospective Heritage applications or 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:35.359 the idea that developers might be 00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:37.720 conversed to hand over ownership of 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.319 properties as a condition for 00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:42.960 development approval May instinctively 00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:45.000 I'm against unnecessary government 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.640 intervention however when markets fail 00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:50.319 with social and economic costs and han 00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:53.480 dignity is compromised I say we must 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:56.319 act may we have a vacant housing crisis 00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:59.200 in Melbourne potentially 8,000 vacant 00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:01.960 homes in our great City My Freedom of 00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.640 Information Discovery has been confirmed 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.680 by the state government effectively 00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:08.400 admitting that its vacant residential 00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:12.319 land taxes failed with only 42 vacant 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:14.680 properties out of the possibly 8,000 are 00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:18.400 paying the tax in our great City it's a 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.519 disgrace let me tell you about Kelly a 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.400 single mom in crisis 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:26.799 accommodation in a single room in Box Hill 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:28.640 she shares it with her two profoundly 00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:31.680 autistic children and she rang me m 00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:33.440 pleading for permission to move into a 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.880 vacant Child Care Center that she 00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:38.440 considered to be Council property that 00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:39.839 Kelly and many others like her are 00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:42.039 forced to endure when we know thousands 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.319 of new or Nearly New dwellings sit empty 00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:45.359 is 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:47.359 unacceptable we know that effective 00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:49.359 public policy needs to satisfy three 00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:50.920 dimensions the first is that it's 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:52.960 administratively feasible that's what 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:55.160 this report's about to have officers 00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:56.599 consider how we might identify the 00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:58.759 dwellings and how we might Levy 00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:01.960 differential rates I know the foi laws 00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.359 could be used to access data from energy 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:07.160 providers for data matching defeatists 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:08.400 and the indolent will say these 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:10.119 companies will never share personal 00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.640 details I say we don't need personal 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.960 details and the F foi act specifically 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.680 allows for data sets to be redacted of 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:21.319 personal details so as to make the 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:23.240 docent not an exempt docent so it 00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:25.599 can be released so we just simply need 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:27.519 the dwelling details a lot nber on an 00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:30.480 exemption level and only a list of 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:32.720 those dwellings not using the utilities 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:34.880 we can figure out the rest perhaps 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:36.799 another act or provision exists but I'll 00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:38.160 leave that to 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.440 officers a policy needs to do what it 00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:42.480 sets out to do to incentivize people to 00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:44.319 rent out vacant Properties or pay a 00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:46.759 penalty like a tax on smoking making 00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:48.880 people pay the health costs and adopt 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.359 healthier ways me there will always be 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.519 what I call frictional vacancy that's 00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:55.759 not intention my intention to capture 00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:58.119 those those waiting on a planning permit 00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.200 probate settlement of transactions those 00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:01.880 fortunate enough to own a holiday house 00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.720 in Baron Bay that escape Melbourne's 00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.559 winter or let officers figure that out 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:09.480 and the policy needs to be politically 00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:11.400 sustainable easily understood by 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:13.079 non-experts this supports the 00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:15.319 overwhelming majority of property owners 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:16.680 that do the right thing and it may 00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:18.960 reward them with lower rates or smaller 00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:21.359 rate increases and it supports those 00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.599 wanting an affordable place to live a 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:26.319 roof over their head and it levies a 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:27.799 proportionate cost on those that are 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:30.799 opposing social and economic costs and 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.200 most importantly it will give some hope 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:35.640 to people like Kelly and thousands of 00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.200 others being stripped of their dignity 00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.079 this sends a clear message that we care 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:44.440 I promise to listen care and act and now 00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.000 is the time counselors if we set an 00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:50.079 example other local authorities will 00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:54.119 follow please support this 00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:56.359 motion thank you councelor Barker 00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:58.519 councelor Devon port 00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:00.400 well thank you mayor and I'm pleased 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:02.960 to be able to second this motion 00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.000 this evening that's been put forward by 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:06.519 councilor 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:10.160 Barker I'd first like like to say that 00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:12.880 we do have quite a nber of vacant 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.200 properties here within the city of White 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.880 Horse other councils certainly do charge 00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:21.359 a differential rate when there's vacant 00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.440 property but I understand from the 00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:26.480 ministerial guidelines from 2013 and I'm 00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:29.119 not sure if they still in force or not 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.319 but at that particular point in time the 00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.279 guidelines were for vacant land and a 00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:35.200 few other reasons you could charge a 00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.759 differential rate my reading of those 00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.359 guidelines seemed to indicate that it 00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.480 would be hard to charge to get a 00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.680 differential rate Over The Line in its 00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:47.039 current 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:52.039 form using for vacant properties 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.480 not vacant land vacant properties and 00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.160 that's why I like Point nber two of 00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:59.319 the motion tonight it's about advocating 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.759 to the state government once we get the 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.160 information to be able to change the 00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.480 policies so we can have a differential 00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.200 rate for vacant 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:12.240 properties we have quite a housing 00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:14.880 crisis according to the press that I 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:18.400 read on one hand and on the other hand 00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:20.000 we've got people land banking and 00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:21.839 holding their 00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:25.799 properties in my view if there are 00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:28.359 people that have decided to hold their 00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:29.599 properties 00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.839 longer or without people living in there 00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:34.359 then they should contribute to some of 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:36.799 the cost of resolving the housing crisis 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.440 across the state I've always said that 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:41.960 the housing crisis is a community 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.400 burden and that means there needs to be 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.039 a community solution making one's 00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:49.640 property available if it's been 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.759 purchased is one of those 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.079 activities that can be 00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:56.920 considered that's why I think that this 00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.839 motion's quite important means that we 00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:03.720 can identify if we can longer term 00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:06.680 vacant properties that are within the 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.840 city itself and what those cost elements 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:14.400 are in relation to land banking and it's 00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:18.039 not just the cost of of holding the 00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:20.760 asset itself it's that social cost 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.079 within the city as well I like Council 00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:25.800 Barker do defend property rights of 00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.280 individuals people should be able to 00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:32.960 choose what they can and what they do 00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:35.639 and don't do on their property but once 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.400 they've made their choice then they have 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:41.760 to pay accordingly and this in this case 00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:43.840 my view is that they should pay a little 00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:46.679 bit more if their property is is 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:50.000 vacant councilors I urge your support 00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.559 this evening for this very important 00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.880 and forward-looking motion thank you 00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:58.800 mayor thank you councilor dport are 00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.920 there any speakers against the 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.280 motion are there any further speakers 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.679 for the motion I wish to speak against 00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:08.920 the motion if I may yes councelor 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.239 skilbeck speaking against just briefly 00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:12.800 councilors I don't think there's any 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.199 disagreement as to the scale and 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.400 seriousness of the problem where I 00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:20.920 have difficulty with this motion is in 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.599 relation to it seeking for Council to 00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:27.239 become the repository of collection 00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:29.760 of data and identification of properties 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.559 in this regard I think that is for the 00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.039 state government most appropriately for 00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.880 a range of reasons I would ask mayor if 00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.639 you would consider taking item one 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.280 separate from item two that may assist 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.920 some of us thank 00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:50.199 you I will say that I'm happy to do it 00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.679 in Parts as suggested because I realize 00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:55.159 it is an important issue and there may 00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:58.039 be different views are there any further 00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.519 speakers for the motion yes yes mayor 00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.760 councelor mcneel thank you mayor and 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.719 strictly speaking legislation and 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.679 regulation of vacant properties and 00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.039 housing is a state government 00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:17.199 jurisdiction local government is not the 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:19.639 responsible Authority so we need to 00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:21.480 Advocate to the 00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:25.199 state Council plays our part though by 00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:27.840 approving new Housing Development 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.360 through the White Horse planning 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.480 scheme and only to see properties remain 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.679 vacant I walk through my ward and see 00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:39.920 properties that appear 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:44.800 derel High Grass rubbish piled up Vermin 00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:50.199 run down till that the only option is 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.719 demolition obviously 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.760 vacant Council officers have limited 00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.599 power to force them to clean up and do 00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:04.840 and to do enforce do enforce what they 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.280 can it would greatly help if faken 00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:12.159 properties could be 00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:16.000 identified if councils could report 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.119 these unoccupied properties to state 00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:20.320 government 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.639 authorities apply pressure on these 00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:27.079 owners to fix them up through taxes and 00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.559 enfor enforcement forcing them to rent 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:32.280 them out as social and affordable 00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.079 housing this would be a win-win for 00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:38.519 owners and people who are currently 00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:42.239 homeless couch surfing and struggling to 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.599 get a roof over their 00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.400 heads we need to start 00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:51.400 somewhere we need the data and a report 00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.440 that will inform the extent of the 00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.760 vacant property situation here in in 00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:59.400 White 00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:01.400 Horse the 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:05.039 srla projections of 77 and a half 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:09.280 th000 residents in Box Hill Alone by 2050 00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:12.519 is further reason that all levels of 00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.320 government need to work 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.519 together it is pointless the state are 00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.440 imposing high density towers and taking 00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.840 control away from local communities if 00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:28.599 the respon 00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:32.800 is owners leave Properties derel or 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:36.440 build and simply Land Bank the housing 00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.000 crisis 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.880 explodes I support the motion and look 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.519 forward to the officer report thank you 00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:45.000 mayor and 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.440 counselors thank you councelor 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:49.599 McNeil is there a further speaker 00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.800 against the motion I have a question may 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.159 if I may can I just get clarification 00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.480 on vacant properties CU doesn't state 00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.440 government have a vacant property I 00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.280 undeveloped tax are we talking about 00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:06.000 vacant houses or vacant dwellings vacant 00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:08.079 dwellings 00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:11.159 man 00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:15.440 you so they are 00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:17.719 residences so can I suggest we actually 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:20.199 add the word dwellings because that's 00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:22.079 vacant properties is in 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:26.960 correct I'm happy to take that Amendment 00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:29.079 oh yeah I'm I'm happy to take that 00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:32.960 amendment is it vacant dwellings y okay 00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:34.960 that amendment is now incorporated into 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:37.159 the 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:47.559 motion point one a as well 00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.719 mayor so I ask is there anyone that 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:55.119 wishes to speak against the motion yes 00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:59.000 ma'am councilor Lane may it I actually 00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.400 find this an incredibly difficult 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:06.039 motion to to think about on one hand 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.599 absolutely agree 100% with councelor 00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:12.280 Barker and the state of play is is 00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.360 absurd in in some areas and I know I 00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:17.840 have many many vacant dwellings in my 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.320 ward in fact I have two within 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.719 spitting distance of my house and I 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:26.480 struggle with the vacant bit because the 00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:28.760 foxes are moving moved in they've 00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.239 been empty for that long 00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:32.920 unfortunately my chickens found out the 00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:37.760 hard way so I I totally agree with 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.480 the position and the the sentiment of 00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:41.440 the 00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.199 motion I find it difficult to accept 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.599 that it'll take a considerable amount of 00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:51.360 Officer time to to produce this report 00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:53.199 on a jurisdiction that we have very 00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:56.239 little ability to impact other than 00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:59.400 advocacy and I'd like to see more of our 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:02.639 effort put into ad advocacy to get the 00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:05.039 state government to actually 00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:10.599 act instead of having a Mr government 00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:14.480 my my house is vacant please tax me 00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:18.320 to the government saying we know you're 00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:21.039 vacant we're going to tax you so instead 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.559 of a self-reporting model actually have 00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:26.280 an enforcement model which would make 00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:28.880 somewhat of a difference 00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.159 I don't know that there's any way we can 00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:35.159 be 100% certain that a dwelling is 00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:37.880 vacant yes there's some indicators which 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.480 we'll need to data mine to actually 00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:43.360 establish the the indicators and then 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:44.960 perhaps have someone go and visit which 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.440 is quite resource intensive so as I said 00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.079 whilst I totally concur with the 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.239 sentiment of the motion I don't know 00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.199 that I can support it given the work 00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:59.840 that will be involved by our officers in 00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:01.480 something that is beyond our 00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:03.519 jurisdiction but I would suggest we 00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:05.280 Advocate very 00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:08.800 very aggressively with the government 00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:11.119 to change its 00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:14.039 ways thank you Council Aline is there 00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:16.320 another speaker for the motion hi yes 00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:18.519 mayor councelor Cuts thank you very much 00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:20.400 mayor will I commend councilor Barker on 00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:22.559 bringing this particular motion to 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.559 council housing the housing crisis we 00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:28.079 currently experiencing the moment is is 00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.000 everyone's business and it's every level 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.079 of government's business and I think 00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:34.400 what this is doing is Seeking a report 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:36.880 this is not asking to do all the work 00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:38.280 and I think that that's where we need to 00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:41.159 be clear on this we are seeking a report 00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:45.000 to identify and look into all of these 00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:49.559 various components I look here at 00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.840 a report that's come out pop track 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.000 found that white horse noxia Rangers 00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:57.360 marunda and Manningham municipalities 00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.400 had just a 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:03.480 46% rental vacancy rate in March making 00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:05.400 a significant drop from recent years and 00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.079 putting upward pressure on rent prices 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:11.280 so we've got the cost of living we've 00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.960 got lack of housing we've got something 00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:16.280 in front of us is saying let us 00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:19.519 potentially look at increasing the cost 00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.039 to housing which could be used for 00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.280 people as counselor Barker mentioned but 00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:27.800 instead giving an increase in in the 00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:29.320 rates that we get from those hous I 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.000 think that is a very valid thing to be 00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:33.480 doing and I as I said commend Council 00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:36.000 bark on that I support the 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:38.519 motion thank you councilor Cuts is there 00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:40.880 another speaker against the motion yes 00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:43.760 ma'am councilor Monroe thank you may 00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:46.559 look I understand the sentiment of 00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:48.039 the motion and that is that we have a 00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:50.000 housing crisis and not everyone is being 00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.039 accommodated and people are being pushed 00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.239 further and further to the outer suburbs 00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:55.760 despite the government's recent 00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.199 announcement of con concentration in 00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.599 places like Box Hill and bwood which 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:03.320 are some way off but the concern I 00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:06.719 have and and counselor mcneel talked 00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:08.599 about you know we do the planning well 00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:10.840 there is a what we're not responsible 00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:14.079 for is what happens after we go 00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:15.239 through the planning process we're 00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:16.480 looking at the suitability of the 00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:18.119 accommodation not what actually happens 00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:20.760 with that accommodation per se but this 00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:23.199 is I'm concerned that we're going about 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:25.079 this the wrong way because if if our 00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:27.119 Council goes off and does it I make a 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:29.159 couple of points one is as previously 00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:31.119 mentioned there is a level of cost in 00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:34.079 relation to officer time and work to do 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.039 this but we don't have access to the 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.800 data required to do this in my view the 00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:42.039 the data exists with the state you might 00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:44.599 talk about water usage and and the like 00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:46.239 this is not information within our 00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.039 domain it's information within the state 00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:50.639 government's domain but I'm concerned my 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:52.960 second point is I'm concerned that if we 00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:55.599 don't do this sector wide and perhaps we 00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:57.159 could do it for the Eastern region and 00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.199 talk about the the policy and go our 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:02.559 own that state government view will be 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.039 this is not a council domain and we know 00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:08.719 that the the this government has a 00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:11.760 level of angst when local governments 00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:14.119 do things that state government believes 00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:16.719 it's in its domain so I think we are 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.840 getting outside of our lanes and we 00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:21.639 don't have access to the data required 00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:24.559 to to do this not withstanding I 00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:25.920 appreciate the sentiment and what we're 00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:28.000 trying to achieve here to get a better 00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:29.920 spread of the properties but I think it 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:33.199 needs a much bigger intervention at 00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:35.440 the state level than this is likely to 00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:37.719 do this is really just somewhat at 00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:39.920 the 00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:44.480 edges thank you councilor Monro is there 00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.760 another speaker for the 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:55.519 motion speaker against the 00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.280 motion then I give Council bar a right 00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.280 of reply well thank you very much mayor 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:02.039 and let me take apart some of those sort 00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:04.679 of rather feeble argents against this 00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:06.280 the first is the suggestion that this 00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.199 needs to be Statewide intervention no no 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:12.400 it doesn't because this issue is 00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:14.119 principally limited to White Horse 00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.679 purandara monach and Manningham and it's 00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.760 particularly an issue in this part of 00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:22.119 Melbourne it's not an issue in places 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.960 like Banu or or Glenn Ira it's just not 00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:29.159 I know that 00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:32.840 to say that this would be ever so 00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:35.679 taxing of Officer time I'm sorry I just 00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:37.480 I just can't apply any value to that 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.000 argent we've seen applications for 00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:42.519 development plmeting which means that 00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:44.920 officers aren't processing the level of 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.000 applications which is indeed one of the 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.559 other issues that we have which is the 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.960 level of development applications 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.360 have plmeted as much as rental 00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:56.960 deposits you know when people hand over 00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.199 a deposit on a home that's plmeting at 00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:03.199 1% at the moment so not only is this a a 00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.280 a wellestablished trajectory and Trend 00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:07.920 something needs to be done about it it's 00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:10.320 not necessarily to be done at a state 00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:13.079 level it needs to be done around here 00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:15.320 and I put it to you that we are the 00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:18.119 leaders of that group of councils 00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:20.800 councilors to suggest that our planning 00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:22.280 stops and ends when we provide a 00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:24.760 planning approval to three three units 00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:28.800 in Mitch or a full full level 00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:30.920 apartment building in Box Hill is one of 00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:33.360 the greatest fantasies fictions and 00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:36.000 nonsense I've ever heard because we we 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.760 are responsible for planning and 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:42.239 providing things like seats in libraries 00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:44.320 dog 00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:47.599 parks a laying in a swimming pool these 00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:50.000 are the essential things that we do and 00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:53.480 we're not able to do them because we we 00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:56.320 have a you know we have to get a grip on 00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:58.639 our population and when we've got such 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:00.679 massive holes in it it's very difficult 00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.880 to do so we should understand our 00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:05.599 vacancy because I tell you what with 00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:07.840 8,000 homes imagine the difference that 00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:09.119 would mean if every one of those homes 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:12.239 was filled with a family with two kids 00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:16.559 requiring a a seat in a in a school 00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:18.719 and yeah probably you're right probably 00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:20.119 should be the state government doing it 00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:22.360 but they're not that interested in our 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:24.760 part of Melbourne and let's be 00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:28.119 absolutely brutally Frank they have 00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:33.719 failed totally 8,000 homes and 42 are 00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:35.840 paying the vacant residential land tax 00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:38.679 sear charge 00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:41.440 42 I I got my mug on the front page of 00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:45.360 the age 7even years the ABC 3 aw because 00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:46.920 it is an 00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:50.719 outrage counselors this is a vote about 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:54.920 which side you're on are you on Kelly's 00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:58.679 side do you stand for han dignity did 00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:00.760 you come here to do something to make 00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:02.480 this city a better place for people to 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:04.840 live or did you come here to be indolent 00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.280 and defeatist throw your hands up oh 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:09.519 it's all too hard oh we won't make any 00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:11.920 progress anyway well let me make it very 00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:14.199 clear counselors I know which side I'm 00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:16.639 on I'm on the side of han dignity I'm 00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:18.280 on the provid of giving people a fair 00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:20.679 going housing and I'm on the side of 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.320 making people that don't use property 00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:25.280 resources effectively and impose costs 00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:27.800 on others pay more for for it so guess 00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.320 what everyone that does the right thing 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:31.800 everyone that lives in the home everyone 00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:34.719 that rents out their rental unit Mitch 00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:36.119 does the right thing they should pay 00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:38.280 lower rates you go to the community and 00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:42.039 you tell them the way you voted tonight 00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.280 please thank you Council 00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:50.679 Barker we'll now go to the vote all 00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:53.400 those and I did say I would move it 00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:58.519 in parts so we're going to to do 0.1 00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:01.440 Parts a b and c may can I just ask if 00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:04.960 you move it in Parts if you point one 00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:06.400 doesn't get up 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.480 in0 00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:11.639 2 make doesn't really make any sense 00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:13.199 because it relies on it's dependent on 00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.760 point nber 00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:18.360 one 00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:22.519 to we could amend Point 2 if 0.1 doesn't 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:23.360 get 00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:27.760 up and three obviously relates if 00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:31.639 either Point gets up so I will do 01 00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:34.559 collectively all three parts a b and c 00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:38.960 together then we'll do 0. 2 and if 00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:42.679 either of those get up we will do3 00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.000 there's no point for three 00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:48.119 otherwise and yes we may need an well we 00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:52.199 will need an amendment to point two 00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:55.880 so we'll let's go to the vote for 0 one 00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:58.639 firstly 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:05.800 all those in favor of 0.1 Parts a b and 00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.599 c 00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:14.760 together councelor Cutz councelor 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:16.880 Davenport councelor 00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:23.159 Barker councelor stennet and councelor 00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:28.280 mcneel all those against 00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:32.880 point1 councelor Lane councelor skilbeck 00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:36.719 councelor you councelor Monroe councelor 00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.360 massud I can see you looking at me 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:40.400 councelor 00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:44.239 Barker I understand but I will Express 00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:46.400 because I haven't spoken to the motion 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:48.960 having an IT background I am very 00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:52.159 concerned about the data matching and 00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:54.519 I'm not sure that we can do that 00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:56.639 effectively so therefore I've voted 00:51:56.719 --> 00:51:59.039 against that but I absolutely recognize 00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:01.440 the problem and have known people and 00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:03.800 had to help them to find 00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:08.079 housing we now move to point two and as 00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:12.079 indicated by Council 00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:15.039 Senate oh yeah that's right it is five 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.519 all I have to make a casting 00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:19.079 vote 00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:22.639 and I will be consistent so therefore I 00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:26.519 vote against it 00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:31.599 and that means 01 is 00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:45.639 lost we now move to point two and since 00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:50.760 point one is has been lost point two 00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:54.440 does need a slight 00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:57.400 change is that what we've got B mayor 00:52:57.480 --> 00:52:59.000 it's not clear to me under the 00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:00.880 governance rules how you can make an 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:03.280 amendment after it's been moved and 00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:06.280 seconded and now gone to vote I haven't 00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:09.360 actually moved 00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:13.559 Point yeah we haven't actually made the 00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:16.599 decision on point two so we can still 00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:18.239 take an amendment because I haven't 00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:21.239 actually moved it to go to the 00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:23.679 vote and it was highlighted in the 00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:25.360 earlier 00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:28.000 discussion I will ask 00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:31.199 governance' response is that 00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:32.960 reasonable 00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:36.599 yeah so Council Senate you suggested the 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:40.239 change have you got a suggestion for 00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:44.119 point two we can 00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.199 help okay yes mayor I'll move an 00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:49.559 amendment that you delete if the above 00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.880 is deemed not possible the delete that 00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:55.360 and change identification to 00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:59.559 identify and delete of so identify 00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:02.159 policy changes that might inform 00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:04.239 advocacy you would need to put the topic 00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:07.199 in as well I think with regards to at 00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:09.639 the end with regards to vacant yep 00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:12.960 dwellings vacant dwellings and housing 00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:16.880 move that Council mon 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:43.239 Rel seeks a report 00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:52.000 good have an idea 00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:18.880 so the amended point two now read seeks 00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:21.679 a report to identify policy changes in 00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:24.000 relation to vacant dwellings and housing 00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:27.239 Supply that might inform advocacy to the 00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.199 state and federal government and other 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:33.239 local government 00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:37.239 bodies May Council Lane has moved that 00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:39.800 Amendment mayor may I suggest that the 00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:42.320 word might would be better to use the 00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:46.119 word will in form 00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:57.039 advocacy either 00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:00.159 is 00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:03.119 the is the Mover happy with the change 00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:05.880 thank you Council Lan is there a 00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:10.320 seconder for that amended point 00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:16.039 two Council Monroe thank 00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:24.679 you to have a given opportunity for 00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.760 debate 00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:30.039 okay 00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:33.039 one yeah and the motion has been 00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:36.840 renbered to0 one and two two was the 00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:39.480 old three which actually was required 00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:42.760 for either so we now have two parts to 00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:43.719 the 00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:47.519 motion we have had the debate so we will 00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:49.760 go to vote Point May given this as an 00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.159 amendment has the amendment been 00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:55.599 approved by the Mover in seconder of the 00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:57.039 original 00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:00.239 motion 00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:02.800 ah yep that's a fair point councilor 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:04.440 Barker no mayor it's not it's not 00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:06.480 approved by me it's been so fared it 00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:08.199 becomes completely meaningless and a 00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:10.400 waste of time we know exactly what the 00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:12.719 policy is this was to have some bite 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:14.320 you've already written to the treasurer 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:15.840 about this matter we've seen the 00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:18.519 response we've got May point of order 00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:20.559 not speaking to the amendment is's 00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:23.239 actually saying yes or no accepting the 00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:28.119 amendment thank you councilor Barker 00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:40.440 the 00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:46.079 motion of the original 00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:49.360 motion my advice is that we need to 00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:53.280 finish out Parts two and three of the 00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:56.320 original motion 00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:58.000 and you can 00:57:58.079 --> 00:57:59.960 foreshadow 00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:05.400 then A Change Is it that's May mayor I I 00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:07.159 see I'm just getting advice just wait a 00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:11.039 minute Council dport 00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:32.559 all right the advice is because there is 00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:36.519 not the approval of the Mover and 00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:40.079 seconder we need to continue the vote in 00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:43.159 parts for parts two and three as it 00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:45.199 originally 00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:48.039 was so we now put 00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:51.440 up part 00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:58.559 two the original 00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:05.320 two 00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:12.719 no mayor can I move a procedural motion 00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.840 that this total item is deferred to the 00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:18.679 next council meeting that that point 00:59:18.760 --> 00:59:21.360 nber two and three is totally 00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:24.320 muted and even if it got put up it would 00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:26.559 make zero sense 00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:29.800 point I will I will take advice from 00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:32.519 governance about the process now and we 00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:35.199 will follow that through I hear what you 00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:38.280 say but my advice is that we need to 00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:42.320 do point two and three as 00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:46.599 is point of order mayor if I can 00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:48.079 continueing Council de port's point 00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:49.599 we've actually already made a decision 00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:53.519 on part one so we have to conclude in my 00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:56.320 view that's exactly what I'm saying we 00:59:56.400 --> 01:00:01.400 now go to the original point two and you 01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:04.960 need to take note of the wording it is 01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:08.400 displayed I now ask for those in favor 01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:11.000 of point 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:16.679 two those 01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:24.039 against councilor devonport did you 01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:27.960 vote oh no we need the names please yep 01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:30.280 it's 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:39.800 unanimous and point three actually has 01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:44.199 no relevance if both items one and two 01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:48.000 have been defeated 01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:01.159 we now move to item 01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:03.880 9.2 which is a notice of motion from 01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:06.880 Council Barker regarding water safety 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:08.800 and it is displayed on the 01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:11.199 screen Council 01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:13.199 Barker I 01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:15.800 move do you have a seconder happy to 01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:17.440 Second mayor thank you councelor 01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:20.360 Davenport councelor Baka may clearly 01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:24.880 this is about saving people's lives 01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:27.000 may the following people people rest in 01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:32.400 Eternal peace darur singer ginda singer 01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:33.880 two deeply loved members of our 01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:35.320 community and of our local Indian 01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:38.199 Community that drowned in a Gold Coast 01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:42.280 pool attempting to save a child Randi 01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:48.920 Jag J sing anad Shuan anad kirati B dur 01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:50.480 at Philip Island this 01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:52.880 smer I'm not a counsel that indulges 01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:54.679 in the politics of identity in this 01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:57.239 place I came here to improve people's 01:01:57.320 --> 01:01:59.519 lives and we need to help we need to act 01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:02.559 to help preserve life our great city is 01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:04.440 a prize destination for people from the 01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:06.400 subcontinent and has a significant 01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:09.119 Indian Community many here are close to 01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:11.199 that Community I know you are may I know 01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:13.800 many of us are from cricket food the 01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:16.360 temple and whatnot may you would have 01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:18.320 seen the report that I sent around to 01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:20.559 all counselors from the new South 01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:22.920 University of New South Wales Professor 01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:25.840 Robert brander that details the dis 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:28.119 proportionate nber of deaths of people 01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:31.159 from South Asia and I quote people from 01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:33.880 India making up the largest nber of 01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:36.920 drowning deaths amongst migrants in 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.199 Australia the root causes a lack of 01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:40.920 swimming lessons and a lack of knowledge 01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:42.800 that those of us grew up in Australia 01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.440 have this is not about making 01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:47.559 generalizations about one of our much 01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:50.760 loved ethnic groups it's anchored in 01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:54.440 evidence and of course many from India 01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:56.639 can swim and swim Beau beautifully but 01:02:56.719 --> 01:02:58.719 it's been explained to me many people 01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:00.920 from our Indian Community if they came 01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:03.440 from Coastal communities can swim but 01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:05.000 those from many other parts have never 01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:08.559 had access to a pool as we may have had 01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:10.360 and you know may we've been undertaking 01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:12.079 extensive consultation around the 01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:13.920 community with about our future 01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:16.480 operating model for our pool continue as 01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:18.920 they are or more like our Golf Course 01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:21.239 we've heard from a lot of people and 01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:23.000 I've been on the record frustrated at 01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:25.679 how poorly our facilities are used 01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.199 utilized at off peak times we have 01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:29.400 significant 01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:31.480 capacity and frankly I'm not really 01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:33.039 interested in our pools being profit 01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:35.400 centers they need to work a lot harder 01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:37.840 to deliver benefit for our 01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:40.119 community I've spoken to many Indian 01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:41.199 families at 01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:44.440 citizenships many cannot swim of course 01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:47.599 they lovingly ensure their kids can but 01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:49.440 30 bucks a lesson than the ever 01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:51.760 increasing cost of living pressures when 01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:54.119 they put their children first we need to 01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:57.159 find a new way you'll not my notice of 01:03:57.239 --> 01:03:59.760 motion makes mention of the other NOS 01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:02.079 non-government organizations we must 01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:04.000 never crowd out and cannot predatory 01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:06.840 price against the great Pro private 01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:10.400 providers like healthways PLC Aquatica 01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:12.400 and other not for profits like surf life 01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:15.400 saving Vic SAR Park Swim Club Nana Swim 01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:17.519 Club they are brilliant providers and 01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:19.840 can add considerable positive impact and 01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:23.480 resources here perhaps this is Council 01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:25.599 runs a limited nber of program in part 01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:27.639 partnership on a Sunday afternoon when 01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:29.559 our pools are very quiet for those with 01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:32.039 a healthc care card at a heavy discount 01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:33.840 and promotes the private providers that 01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:36.000 don't have this pricing power but I'll 01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:37.960 let the officers consider that in the 01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:40.920 report you also know my notice of motion 01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:43.159 mentions volunteers and we know the 01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:45.519 majority of sport and physical coaching 01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:48.719 in our city is done free of charge by 01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:51.920 volunteers like myself and councel line 01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:53.480 there are thousands of a first aid 01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:56.360 certificate and coaching accreditor 01:04:56.440 --> 01:04:59.360 we teach footy Cricket basketball I'm 01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.559 one of them I know many others that I've 01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:03.719 shared this idea with would jp at the 01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:06.400 chance to help formally train swimming 01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:08.800 teachers help others to learn how to 01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:11.000 swim this is where a swimming lesson 01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:13.239 might cost five bucks rather than the 01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:16.639 usual 30 I know the Glenn Ira Council 01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:18.559 aquatic facilities has started a program 01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:20.639 like this it bubbled out of their Sport 01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:22.880 and recck team I don't know why it 01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:24.360 didn't come from ours but it's bubbling 01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:26.360 from our counselor group 01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:28.559 we have the pool space we have the 01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:30.599 abundance of resources including private 01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:32.119 providers and 01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:35.480 volunteers we have too many people 01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:38.400 drowning we need to act we came here to 01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:41.039 improve people's lives and the people 01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:43.400 that call White Horse home we need them 01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:46.880 to help them be safe around the water we 01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:49.320 can do this please support this 01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:51.079 [Music] 01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:53.800 motion thank you councilor Barker 01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:55.960 councelor dport 01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:58.079 well thank you mayor and I think that 01:05:58.159 --> 01:05:59.880 Council Barker has made a really good 01:05:59.960 --> 01:06:01.880 opening speech and I don't want to go 01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:04.360 over the ground that Council bark has 01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:07.639 gone over I think from my perspective 01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:09.199 having an officer report on this 01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:10.639 particular initiative is really 01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:14.199 important firstly our off peak 01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:17.280 usage in our swimming pools are mean 01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:19.039 that we do have that spare 01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:22.159 capacity we do have a lot of Lane 01:06:22.239 --> 01:06:24.039 availability during the course of the 01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:26.320 day when when all of the students are at 01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:28.800 school and all of those 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:31.639 extracurricular activities are not 01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:34.519 occurring secondly adult migrant 01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:36.559 swimming and I and I have 01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:39.559 seen classes of this nature occur 01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:42.239 elsewhere what it does do is it builds 01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:45.039 those connections between the various 01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:46.840 members of the community that might not 01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:49.480 meet meet others because when coming out 01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:52.400 from overseas countries you have a very 01:06:52.480 --> 01:06:54.719 small circle of friends when you first 01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:56.119 arrive 01:06:56.199 --> 01:06:59.559 my wife came out about 20 years ago 20 01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:02.360 25 years ago I think now she had a very 01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:04.199 small circle of friends when she first 01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:06.119 arrived and having these types of 01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:08.559 programs whether it's learning to swim 01:07:08.639 --> 01:07:11.559 at the swimming pool or or the use of 01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:13.199 neighborhood houses I think that's 01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.800 really important to build connectedness 01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:19.920 between members of our migrant Community 01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:22.599 especially delivering here in this 01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:25.480 particular case learn to swim type 01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:28.239 programs in off peak Seasons I don't see 01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:30.800 this costing Council of Fortune 01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:32.000 especially if we're working in 01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:34.199 partnership with others the way I saw it 01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:36.599 working if the officers come up with 01:07:36.679 --> 01:07:38.960 this in the report is that they pay 01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:42.480 their entry fee and then volunteers and 01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:45.719 other groups run these classes and and 01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:47.840 we just allocate some Lane space that's 01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:50.639 pretty much empty anyway during the 01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:52.840 course of the day and Council Barker 01:07:52.920 --> 01:07:56.760 said on Sunday after afternoon probably 01:07:56.840 --> 01:07:59.719 at Box Hill where I get a lane to myself 01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:01.480 councilor Barker and sometimes when I 01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:03.199 take my daughter there's two of us in 01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:07.400 that lane mayor I think that that 01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:09.360 this is a very important 01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:12.000 motion councils I urge your 01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:14.920 support and once the officer report 01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:16.960 comes in as long as it's not too costly 01:08:17.039 --> 01:08:18.800 I urge you to support that as well thank 01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:20.760 you 01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:24.119 may thank you councilor Davenport is 01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:27.159 there a speaker against the mo 01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:28.840 are there any further speakers for the 01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:30.079 motion 01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:33.399 yes I heard Council Lane first and then 01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:36.520 go to council c counil l 01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:41.640 this is a a very topical motion 01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:44.680 and one that is very well thought 01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:47.720 through councilor Barker a nber of 01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:51.399 years ago mayor I attended a site in the 01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:53.039 Northern Territory called in 01:08:53.119 --> 01:08:56.800 Lichfield National Park the day before 01:08:56.880 --> 01:08:59.600 or in fact two days before seven people 01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:03.039 of Asian descent died in the one spot at 01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:04.359 the same 01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:07.880 time it very heart-wrenching May these 01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:12.319 were students of Chinese descent who 01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:15.000 potentially were our future residents 01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:17.680 our future 01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:20.840 citizens unfortunately the guide that 01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:22.960 they had with them could not save any of 01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:25.479 them on the day 01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:28.000 as councilor Barker mentioned we lost 01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:30.520 some of our Indian Community in at 01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:33.479 Philip Island earlier in the 01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:36.479 year and then a father and grandfather 01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:38.640 more recently in Queensland which had a 01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:41.239 significant impact on our local 01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:43.720 community the seek Community which 01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:46.520 are still supporting that family today 01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:48.800 and as they move forward and having 01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:53.119 visited the SE Community yesterday and 01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:55.640 talking about the impact on the Indian 01:09:55.720 --> 01:09:58.720 Community more broadly and their dismay 01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:00.680 at you what can we do what can we do to 01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:02.479 help what can we do to help and their 01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:04.520 willingness their eagerness to help not 01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:06.319 just the Indian Community but the 01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:09.359 broader migrant Community rang very 01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:12.720 true as to what they can do to help us 01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:15.079 now mayor I have some recollection that 01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:18.119 maybe 10 12 years ago we did have an 01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:20.880 initiative down this track at least 01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:22.840 at ning pool and there may be some 01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:25.720 learnings from that from from back in 01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:28.039 those days and I know particular at not 01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:30.680 watering they they used to I'm hoping 01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:33.239 they still do have adult learn to swim 01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:35.880 classes in the evenings and there could 01:10:35.960 --> 01:10:38.000 be a nber of initiatives that we can 01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:40.479 support the community particularly that 01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:42.640 migrant community and as said to me 01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.760 yesterday we're Indian we don't go in 01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:48.239 the water we just walk in the shallows 01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:51.079 and that's as much as we ever do but 01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:54.479 it's so important that part of being in 01:10:54.560 --> 01:10:56.520 Australia the kids all do swimming at 01:10:56.600 --> 01:10:58.279 school they do swimming lessons outside 01:10:58.359 --> 01:11:00.279 of school and it's important that we 01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:02.920 teach our kids to swim but it's equally 01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:06.359 if not as at the same importance to 01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:09.439 educate adults in swimming as well and 01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:11.520 try and avert the tragedies that have 01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:13.560 occurred particularly the father and 01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:16.159 grandfather in queenan more recently 01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:18.720 councilors I urge you to support this 01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:20.439 great 01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:22.560 initiative thank you Council Lane 01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:25.399 councilor Cuts thank you mayor and thank 01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:30.159 you Council Lan for that really good 01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:33.560 report there I also support this I 01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:35.800 think there it's a tragedy that lost so 01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:40.319 many lives and so many white horse and 01:11:40.399 --> 01:11:42.840 local lives around here I really think 01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:44.119 that we should be working through our 01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:47.079 neighborhood houses they 10 across 01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:49.319 White Horse and they are involved very 01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:51.800 much in the Multicultural communities 01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:54.079 and are also our Interfaith Network as 01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:56.199 well which is a another way that we get 01:11:56.279 --> 01:11:58.800 into these communities so it's I I 01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:00.600 certainly support this this is something 01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:03.600 that we should be doing and I think 01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:05.279 hopefully with the report coming back 01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:07.640 we'll be able to see a way forward thank 01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:09.199 you 01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:11.880 mayor thank you Council 01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:14.720 Cuts councilor mcneel are you wanting to 01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:17.760 speak are you speaking for or 01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:20.800 against thank you councelor mcneel thank 01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:25.199 you very much and and and certainly I 01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:28.239 I I support this motion I think it's 01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:31.840 very very important you know as 01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:36.239 someone who has a disability which 01:12:36.319 --> 01:12:38.880 and I know there are also other adults 01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:43.800 if you are both an an adult and having 01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:46.800 come to Australia from a country that is 01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:53.199 not G by sea that you have a huge 01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:56.800 disadvantage over everyone else and 01:12:56.880 --> 01:12:59.640 hearing and I honestly believe this is 01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:04.199 an opportunity for us to use our our 01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:08.880 space and our pools to help people who 01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:12.600 maybe have a multiple 01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:15.039 disadvantaged particularly with the 01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:18.399 language barrier as well added on top of 01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:22.199 everything else to actually learn to 01:13:22.279 --> 01:13:26.039 swim it is such an important skill and 01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:32.079 well said to by councelor Cutz 01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:35.520 about using places like our neighborhood 01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:38.119 houses to spread the word and our our 01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:41.000 other communities that's a really really 01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:44.159 important aspect to this is and that we 01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:47.319 reach out in all the different areas our 01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:51.079 libraries as well anywhere that we that 01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:54.520 our community meets that we can get the 01:13:54.600 --> 01:13:57.760 message out to people that the 01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:01.720 parents need to learn to swim and that 01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:05.159 we can provide provide the facilities 01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:09.800 for them to do so in a really safe 01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:13.359 environment and and we have the teachers 01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:16.800 all from all the the different clubs the 01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:19.960 sports clubs healthways is also 01:14:20.039 --> 01:14:23.039 fantastic place and they do a lot of 01:14:23.119 --> 01:14:25.560 support of people with 01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:28.399 older people and people with from right 01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:31.039 around the world so I think it's really 01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:34.479 important we can work on this I 01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:37.880 supported congratulations councilor 01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:40.720 Barker on bringing this into the 01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:43.279 chamber thank you councelor mcneel are 01:14:43.359 --> 01:14:45.119 there any further speakers yes ma'am 01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:48.000 councelor L thank you i' like to commend 01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:50.079 councelor Baker for this motion which 01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:52.680 I'm certainly in support of and what I 01:14:52.760 --> 01:14:55.680 particularly like about this motion 01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:59.159 is the working in partnership with non 01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:01.920 nonprofit organizations you know I 01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.000 had the pleasure of meeting our 01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:06.079 community groups from from all different 01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:08.079 backgrounds in White Horse and one of 01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:10.359 the things that is common through my 01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:13.319 conversations with Community groups is 01:15:13.399 --> 01:15:15.119 they're very keen on working with 01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:17.520 Council and other levels of government 01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:19.640 in terms of delivering you know 01:15:19.720 --> 01:15:22.880 programs to to to the local community 01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:24.720 and I think it's particularly important 01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:26.800 I mean water safety certainly 01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:28.800 certainly very important but our 01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:30.000 community groups are doing some 01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:32.000 fantastic work out there and we should 01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:34.439 be there to support them they're 01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:36.479 there not only to engage with the 01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:38.359 community but also to inform the 01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:40.239 community as well and certainly I think 01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:43.359 in the space of water safety we have 01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:45.359 capacity there to work closer with our 01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:47.640 community groups and non for-profit 01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:50.880 organizations as well so I commend 01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:53.279 this motion well done Council 01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:55.680 Baka thank you coun 01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:58.319 any further 01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:01.119 speakers no further speakers I'll just 01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:03.600 make a comment that I'm very supportive 01:16:03.680 --> 01:16:06.920 as a a lucky Australian child I grew up 01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:09.560 learning to swim it still astounds me 01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:12.600 when I come across adults who don't know 01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:16.239 how to swim it's not just migrants it's 01:16:16.319 --> 01:16:19.279 anyone that's of an older age I think 01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:21.520 it's really important that once we have 01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:23.439 this report we'll be able to look at how 01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:25.399 it could go across the whole 01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:27.359 Community more broadly for those who 01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:30.279 don't have the skill would be much safer 01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:32.159 for everybody in the future if they at 01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:35.560 least had the basics to try to look 01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:38.079 after themselves in 01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:40.640 water I will now put this motion to the 01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:43.960 vote all those in 01:16:44.840 --> 01:16:49.239 favor carried unanimously 01:16:56.680 --> 01:16:59.199 we now come to item 01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:02.640 10.1 and of the agenda and that is a 01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:05.079 notice of intention to declare a special 01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:08.159 charge for the Burwood Heights Shopping 01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:10.239 Center do I have a 01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:13.479 mover may you do just if I may I just 01:17:13.560 --> 01:17:15.159 want to before we move into these 01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:16.840 substantive matters whether you might 01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:18.720 care to explain to the gallery that 01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:22.000 they're very very welcome to stay but 01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:25.319 are not obliged to do so 01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:27.880 thank you councilor skilbeck for the 01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:31.239 gallery we went through notices of 01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:33.319 motion and then on the agenda we have 01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:36.399 some reports that will come and be 01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:40.640 debated if you are perhaps 01:17:40.720 --> 01:17:42.319 considering it's getting a bit late 01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:43.640 particularly if you've got children with 01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:46.159 you and you'd like to leave you can 01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:48.600 leave at any time but you are also very 01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:51.399 welcome to stay until the end so feel 01:17:51.479 --> 01:17:56.039 free to do what works for you 01:17:57.000 --> 01:17:59.439 all right now councelor skilbeck I 01:17:59.520 --> 01:18:01.479 believe you said you would move item 01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:05.000 10.1 yes ma'am do I have a second second 01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:07.680 me thank you Council Lane councelor 01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:10.279 skilbeck thank you may and thank you 01:18:10.359 --> 01:18:11.840 for that I'm just conscious this 01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:13.680 particular agenda item is not the most 01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:15.640 riveting of matters we will be 01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:17.920 discussing tonight but it is important 01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:20.439 councilors we have two long-standing 01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:22.880 special charge schemes in White House 01:18:22.960 --> 01:18:25.479 one in ear Ward at bwood Heights 01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:26.920 Shopping Center which is on the 01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:29.640 Southeast corner of that middleb Road 01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:31.680 and bwood Highway 01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:33.479 intersection and that's the scheme that 01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:35.720 we're being asked to issue intention to 01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:38.439 renew tonight and the other one is in 01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:41.800 man's Ward at Canterbury roads Brentford 01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:44.520 Square the essence of a special charge 01:18:44.600 --> 01:18:46.720 scheme like this is to provide a 01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:50.119 mechanism to create governance of agreed 01:18:50.199 --> 01:18:52.800 activity like essential marketing and 01:18:52.880 --> 01:18:55.600 promotions funding with Cal cized 01:18:55.680 --> 01:18:57.720 coordination this is for the benefit of 01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:00.319 those who would contribute and to grow 01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:03.039 the appeal competitiveness and viability 01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:06.159 of the center it's not Council funding 01:19:06.239 --> 01:19:08.119 let's be clear about that it is Council 01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:10.840 administering the special charge and 01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:13.880 once in place that charge does apply to 01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:16.600 all for the present term of the scheme 01:19:16.680 --> 01:19:19.720 so particular businesses cannot opt out 01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:22.680 and hence a very careful process is 01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:25.920 followed unfortunately these processes 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:28.520 of charge renewal and administration 01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:30.720 aren't simple and both the 01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:34.880 1989 and 2020 local government acts 01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:36.239 apply that's a 01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:39.800 mouthful one upside of what is expensive 01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:42.560 legals this time is that we now have the 01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:46.119 base advice needed post 2020 and 01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:48.000 brenford square will benefit from this 01:19:48.079 --> 01:19:51.000 next year if renewal is recommended 01:19:51.079 --> 01:19:53.600 there officers have been working on 01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:56.039 these matters for some time now it takes 01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:59.039 about 18 months to work through a charge 01:19:59.119 --> 01:20:01.640 scheme renewal and at bwood Heights 01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:03.560 Shopping Center through the Traders 01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:07.239 Association we have over 35 owners and 01:20:07.319 --> 01:20:09.760 three body corporates which makes 01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:13.199 integrated positioning a challenge I 01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:15.760 want to commend these stakeholders May 01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:18.279 who have constructively engaged in 01:20:18.359 --> 01:20:20.399 information sessions and a visioning 01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:23.079 workshop and contributed to the shaping 01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:26.239 of a renewed strategic business plan for 01:20:26.319 --> 01:20:29.119 the center the whole approach is about 01:20:29.199 --> 01:20:32.119 making sense of the short to medi-term 01:20:32.199 --> 01:20:34.720 realities and opportunities across this 01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:37.960 site and actively working against higher 01:20:38.039 --> 01:20:40.720 vacancy rates right now counselors 01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:43.239 vacancies are pleasingly 01:20:43.319 --> 01:20:46.560 low in the longer term this site will be 01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:48.680 particularly significant given its 01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:51.239 proximity to the coming bwood Suburban 01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:53.680 rail Loop Station and for that 01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:55.680 connection B bwood Heights Shopping 01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:58.359 Center is actually closer than bwood 1 01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:00.560 and more directly accessible than bwood 01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:03.560 brick works but Burwood height certainly 01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:06.359 faces stiff competition from those 01:21:06.439 --> 01:21:09.159 neighbor shopping center precincts even 01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:11.119 though some differentiation I think is 01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:14.319 enabling bwood Heights to hold its own 01:21:14.399 --> 01:21:16.199 it does counselors have the attraction 01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:19.000 of multiple medical services and it is 01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:21.880 probably the easiest Shopping Center in 01:21:21.960 --> 01:21:25.479 South Central White Horse to find a park 01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:27.680 future development of the bwood Heights 01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:30.439 Shopping Center site which I think we 01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:33.880 all recognize as inevitable is most 01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:36.520 likely to find moment after the period 01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:39.640 of the proposed charge scheme renewal 01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:42.239 the imperative for now is to help 01:21:42.319 --> 01:21:45.279 sustain and improve a valuable piece in 01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:47.880 the bwood and bwood East 01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:49.920 offerings so just to be clear what the 01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.680 motion before us tonight does is to 01:21:52.760 --> 01:21:55.800 recognize the Strategic plan adopted by 01:21:55.880 --> 01:21:58.399 The bwood Heights Business Association 01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:01.239 which gives life to the intended scheme 01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:04.319 renewal it's to approve a budget for 01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:07.520 that proposed scheme renewal period and 01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:10.039 it's to enable the statutory processes 01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:12.840 required including in relation to public 01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:15.640 notice and then to understand that if 01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:18.479 all progresses as desired that this 01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:20.600 matter would come back to this chamber 01:22:20.680 --> 01:22:24.079 in July for actual Declaration of the 01:22:24.159 --> 01:22:25.199 charge 01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:27.760 so all of this I commend to my 01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:29.279 colleagues thank you 01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:32.359 mayor thank you councilor skilbeck 01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:35.640 Council Lane thank you mayor and thank 01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:37.800 you Council skilbeck for again an 01:22:37.880 --> 01:22:41.079 excellent introduction to the motion as 01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:44.159 usual I also or as mentioned I also have 01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:46.279 a special charge scheme in my ward at 01:22:46.359 --> 01:22:48.760 brenford Square shopping center and 01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:50.960 am familiar with the requirements 01:22:51.039 --> 01:22:53.399 around that and I fully support the 01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:55.560 special rate charge as this provides a 01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:58.199 fair and Equitable contribution to the 01:22:58.279 --> 01:23:00.079 promotion and marketing of this 01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:02.479 important shopping Precinct especially 01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:04.600 given the competition that is not too 01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:08.199 far away from it this geme has been in 01:23:08.279 --> 01:23:11.039 place for some 22 years and is vital to 01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:15.000 the ongoing survival of this Precinct 01:23:15.079 --> 01:23:18.680 interestingly that 30 37% of property 01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:22.319 owners that responded were against the 01:23:22.399 --> 01:23:25.800 scheme yet an over whelming 90% of 01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:30.000 respondents of business owners voted for 01:23:30.079 --> 01:23:31.800 the scheme and they're the ones that are 01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:34.600 most affected by the scheme and get the 01:23:34.680 --> 01:23:37.640 most benefit so an overwhelming support 01:23:37.720 --> 01:23:39.880 in total 80% of all respondents to a 01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:42.560 survey were in favor which is which 01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:44.960 is very pleasing so councils please 01:23:45.039 --> 01:23:46.880 support the renewal of the special 01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:49.680 charge scheme thank 01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:52.880 you thank you Council Elaine is there a 01:23:52.960 --> 01:23:55.960 speaker against the motion 01:23:56.039 --> 01:23:58.319 is there another speaker for the 01:23:58.399 --> 01:24:01.680 motion then I will put the motion to the 01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:04.560 vote all those in 01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:08.680 favor motion is carried 01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:20.640 unanimously we now move to item 10.2 01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:25.520 proposed land transactions in Box Hill 01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:27.920 I se a 01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:30.680 mover mayor I just have a slight 01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:34.079 Amendment to the substantive report just 01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:36.800 highlight nber two counselors that 01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:39.079 while I acknowledge that the there 01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:40.960 there has been separate engagement in 01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:43.800 relation to Allen withth parade that 01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:45.479 Council supports in principle the 01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:47.399 conversion of the existing off street 01:24:47.479 --> 01:24:50.359 car park at 20 to 24 allenorth parade 01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:53.319 Box Hill to new public open space and 01:24:53.399 --> 01:24:56.439 authorizes count il's senior advisor 01:24:56.520 --> 01:24:58.920 major Recreation open space to write to 01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:01.359 nearby residents and Traders informing 01:25:01.439 --> 01:25:03.920 them of the proposed conversion to 01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:06.079 public open space and advise that the 01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:08.279 Suburban rail Loop Authority will fund 01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:10.079 the design and delivery of the 01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:14.079 associated Capital 01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:18.960 works thank you Council L do I have a 01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:21.800 second thank you councilor Baka 01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:25.600 councelor L thank you mayor as you are 01:25:25.680 --> 01:25:28.119 aware councilors as part of the 1 01:25:28.199 --> 01:25:31.279 hectare open space offset provision for 01:25:31.359 --> 01:25:34.439 the suburan rail Loop project Council 01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:36.479 received a proposal from the Suburban 01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:39.199 rail Loop Authority also known as the 01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:41.640 srla pertaining to the potential 01:25:41.720 --> 01:25:45.079 transfer on of ownership of 10 to 12 01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:48.119 watt Street and 11 Court Street Box Hill 01:25:48.199 --> 01:25:52.600 to the srla in exchange for the site at 01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:56.359 528 stations Street Box 01:25:56.439 --> 01:25:59.279 Hill as you know councilors at the 01:25:59.359 --> 01:26:01.840 February 12th meeting of this year 01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:03.600 Council resolved to commence the 01:26:03.680 --> 01:26:06.960 statutory processes including Community 01:26:07.039 --> 01:26:08.840 engagement as per council's Community 01:26:08.920 --> 01:26:11.399 engagement policy publication of public 01:26:11.479 --> 01:26:14.960 notice and also seeking independent 01:26:15.039 --> 01:26:16.119 property 01:26:16.199 --> 01:26:18.840 valuations and subsequent to this to 01:26:18.920 --> 01:26:21.159 prepare a report for council's 01:26:21.239 --> 01:26:25.520 consideration which is before us tonight 01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:27.479 I want to take the opportunity first to 01:26:27.560 --> 01:26:28.960 thank the residents and community 01:26:29.039 --> 01:26:30.880 members who took part in the land 01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:33.960 transaction consultation and provided 01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:36.640 valuable feedback and insight including 01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:39.800 tonight's speakers yvon and Vincent 01:26:39.880 --> 01:26:41.439 there were a nber of valid concerns 01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:43.920 raised throughout this process including 01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:46.720 the temporary nature of the open space 01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:48.560 and the uncertainty of the future of 01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:52.880 Court Street and WT Street Post srl 01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:55.359 construction CL ity required over 01:26:55.439 --> 01:26:57.399 project costs as well as the impact of 01:26:57.479 --> 01:26:59.760 parking availability and safety 01:26:59.840 --> 01:27:02.880 including congestion accessibil 01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:05.479 accessibility including on Street public 01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:08.520 parking rear laneway access for wat 01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:10.640 Street and Court Street Properties and 01:27:10.720 --> 01:27:14.399 potential a loss of amenity were also 01:27:14.479 --> 01:27:16.720 flagged Community feedback also 01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:19.039 articulated the need for comprehensive 01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:21.239 planning and further Community input to 01:27:21.319 --> 01:27:23.560 fully realize broader Community benefit 01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:26.720 when it comes to open space it's clear 01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:29.000 counselors from this process and from 01:27:29.079 --> 01:27:30.920 conversations and feedback that I've 01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:32.760 received personally from residents and 01:27:32.840 --> 01:27:35.279 community members that more open space 01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:37.239 is welcomed and needed particularly in 01:27:37.319 --> 01:27:40.439 Box Hill with the growth of Box Hill and 01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:43.439 the projected increase as a result of 01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:45.960 the project and councils you may have 01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:48.520 seen the recent key directions paper 01:27:48.600 --> 01:27:52.159 released yesterday the srla now aimed to 01:27:52.239 --> 01:27:54.720 add more than 70,000 homes across the 01:27:54.800 --> 01:27:57.479 six srl East 01:27:57.560 --> 01:28:00.880 areas the proposed intense densification 01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:03.119 puts the spotlight on future amenity 01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:06.600 needs infrastructure services and the 01:28:06.680 --> 01:28:08.800 significant shortfall of open space in 01:28:08.880 --> 01:28:11.039 the area need to be clearly addressed 01:28:11.119 --> 01:28:12.479 and there needs to be a holistic 01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:14.439 approach to this planning 01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:17.399 process as one of our public presenters 01:28:17.479 --> 01:28:20.079 y yavon highlighted earlier tonight the 01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:22.840 current open space area per person will 01:28:22.920 --> 01:28:25.800 dwindle sign significantly or 01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:28.840 potentially even further than that given 01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:31.119 the updated densification figures in the 01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:33.119 recent key directions 01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:35.479 paper while many see the potential of 01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:38.159 converting 10 to 12 WT Street and 11 01:28:38.239 --> 01:28:40.239 Court Street into open space the 01:28:40.319 --> 01:28:42.479 temporary nature of the open space and 01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:44.640 potential future Redevelopment plans 01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:47.319 once the srl project is completed is a 01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:49.520 key factor as to why the proposal cannot 01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:52.359 be supported this evening the report 01:28:52.439 --> 01:28:55.119 before us however does allow Council the 01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:57.199 ability to further engage with the 01:28:57.279 --> 01:28:59.039 Suburban rail Loop Authority and this is 01:28:59.119 --> 01:29:00.159 particularly 01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:03.359 important given the O the local open 01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:04.880 space opportunities that need to be 01:29:04.960 --> 01:29:07.640 further discussed and I need to stress 01:29:07.720 --> 01:29:10.680 that any open space opportunities to 01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:14.159 be considered should be in in the 01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:17.039 long term it is imp imperative that we 01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:19.319 work and continue to work and engage 01:29:19.399 --> 01:29:22.039 with the srla and Community to maximize 01:29:22.119 --> 01:29:24.039 long-term open space and public 01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:28.000 commenity outcomes in Box Hill as I as I 01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:30.079 said before councilors Council and the 01:29:30.159 --> 01:29:31.920 community need to be properly engaged 01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:34.960 and consulted in the process the impacts 01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:38.039 of this project will be ongoing post srl 01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:40.479 construction and as I mentioned earlier 01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:43.000 any considerations in relation to open 01:29:43.079 --> 01:29:46.039 space needs to be strategic of high 01:29:46.119 --> 01:29:49.079 quality and for the long term I commend 01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:51.600 this report to your councilors thank 01:29:51.680 --> 01:29:55.359 you thank you councilor Le Council 01:29:55.439 --> 01:29:58.159 Barker thanks very much standing up been 01:29:58.239 --> 01:30:00.720 sitting down for a while happy to 01:30:00.800 --> 01:30:02.319 support this and I thank Council for 01:30:02.399 --> 01:30:04.359 introduction of it councelors it was 01:30:04.439 --> 01:30:07.479 worthwhile considering this proposal 01:30:07.560 --> 01:30:09.560 from the Suburban Railway because we 01:30:09.640 --> 01:30:12.000 know just how important open space is 01:30:12.079 --> 01:30:14.720 going to be in Box Hill we heard some 01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:17.079 outstanding presentations tonight from 01:30:17.159 --> 01:30:19.199 the friends of the brick works and SAR 01:30:19.279 --> 01:30:22.960 Hills prog SAR Hills Association about 01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:24.399 how important it is 01:30:24.479 --> 01:30:27.199 60,000 extra people what's that another 01:30:27.279 --> 01:30:29.159 possibly 5,000 01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:33.319 dogs a bunch of children we need 01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:36.039 space and what we're facing with the 01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:39.079 Suburban rail Loop is the population 01:30:39.159 --> 01:30:41.119 density of 01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:44.399 Manhattan only we don't have a Central 01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:47.920 Park a Broadway or a Wall Street Madam 01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:52.039 me and as interesting as the sort of 01:30:52.119 --> 01:30:55.039 watt Street former Child Care Center in 01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:57.119 that at grade car park would be hey it 01:30:57.199 --> 01:31:00.000 might be a nice little pocket park but 01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:02.000 it wasn't there was no guarantee that it 01:31:02.079 --> 01:31:04.720 would be a permanent solution it's only 01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:07.560 for 7 10 years Heavens know it may go 01:31:07.640 --> 01:31:11.439 longer than that I'd be loed if I was 01:31:11.520 --> 01:31:13.239 any government to take a park and make 01:31:13.319 --> 01:31:16.159 it into apartment buildings but the 01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:17.720 community's spoken we've listened to 01:31:17.800 --> 01:31:20.479 them and the deal's not on and the other 01:31:20.560 --> 01:31:23.880 thing which was 528 Station Street would 01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:26.800 we make that into a park we've got the 01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:28.920 little park next to it but it's it's not 01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:31.640 really a a recreation space because 01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:33.199 you're sitting next to stationary 01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:35.359 traffic and despite what we might want 01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:38.399 to try and do to discourage traffic 01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:40.520 through the activity center there's 01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:42.560 always going to be some traffic there 01:31:42.640 --> 01:31:45.159 it's not a place for recreation which is 01:31:45.239 --> 01:31:48.399 why I find the brick workk site so 01:31:48.479 --> 01:31:51.199 compelling yes let's make these let's 01:31:51.279 --> 01:31:53.479 make the Court Street and WT Street into 01:31:53.560 --> 01:31:55.600 a little Park Heavens that might even be 01:31:55.680 --> 01:31:58.760 good for some of the Indoor Sport hardc 01:31:58.840 --> 01:32:00.640 space that we know we so desperately 01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:03.880 need again significant proximity to 01:32:03.960 --> 01:32:06.000 neighbors we need to work through that 01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:08.119 and think through that but I'm really 01:32:08.199 --> 01:32:10.199 pleased that we've got here but I want 01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:12.680 to focus this m on the importance of 01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:15.640 scale of land and how land linkages work 01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:18.359 so the Federation brick work s is cancel 01:32:18.439 --> 01:32:21.319 Le and and I perfectly ties in with SAR 01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:24.359 dive all the way back to Box Hill and 01:32:24.439 --> 01:32:26.199 with the extension of the Nelson ride 01:32:26.279 --> 01:32:28.439 which is suggested in the precinct plan 01:32:28.520 --> 01:32:30.960 again some flow through of the activity 01:32:31.039 --> 01:32:33.119 center for people going for a walk 01:32:33.199 --> 01:32:35.319 through Box Hill Gardens up Nelson Road 01:32:35.399 --> 01:32:38.199 over the railway Corridor and into the 01:32:38.279 --> 01:32:40.439 brick works and the S Park thing it 01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:42.720 would be fantastic and these are the 01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:46.399 sorts of places that cities need and 01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:49.399 make them great and the comment before 01:32:49.479 --> 01:32:52.279 about how Parks connect people is so 01:32:52.359 --> 01:32:55.840 true so incredibly true particularly in 01:32:55.920 --> 01:32:58.680 such a diverse Community where you I 01:32:58.760 --> 01:33:00.439 meet people all the time can't speak a 01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:02.600 word of English but you know what a dog 01:33:02.680 --> 01:33:04.560 sniffing another dog's backside is often 01:33:04.640 --> 01:33:06.560 one of those things that creates the the 01:33:06.640 --> 01:33:09.119 sort of smile between people and that 01:33:09.199 --> 01:33:11.000 you know we're on the same page and 01:33:11.079 --> 01:33:13.880 that's what it's about open space I 01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:15.119 think we're all going to hear a lot more 01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:16.960 about it I'm delighted that we've come 01:33:17.039 --> 01:33:18.359 to that conclusion because that's 01:33:18.439 --> 01:33:20.800 exactly what I heard when we did the 01:33:20.880 --> 01:33:23.159 consultation so Polie counselors support 01:33:23.239 --> 01:33:26.520 it congrat ulations councelor 01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:30.000 luk thank you Council Baka are there any 01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:33.239 speakers against the motion oh yes mayor 01:33:33.319 --> 01:33:34.840 counc I'm speaking against the 01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:36.399 Amendments that have been made in 01:33:36.479 --> 01:33:39.680 paragraph two the reason that I'm I'm 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:41.319 speaking against these particular 01:33:41.399 --> 01:33:43.399 amendments is because a Suburban raal 01:33:43.479 --> 01:33:46.119 Loop has given to us a package deal when 01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:50.600 you read page nber 17 of the 01:33:50.680 --> 01:33:53.720 report so bban ralu came to us with a 01:33:53.800 --> 01:33:56.760 with a proposal and that 01:33:56.840 --> 01:34:01.840 proposal is one two and three put 01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:04.800 together now tonight we're saying no to 01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:07.359 one we're saying yes to two and we're 01:34:07.439 --> 01:34:10.279 saying yes to three but for us to then 01:34:10.359 --> 01:34:13.039 go out well sorry I I'll repeat that 01:34:13.119 --> 01:34:15.239 before I get a point of order put on me 01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:19.199 we're saying yes to no to one yes to 01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:22.239 three and maybe supporting principle 01:34:22.319 --> 01:34:26.399 maybe to two but after we say maybe to 01:34:26.479 --> 01:34:28.359 two we're now going to go and write to 01:34:28.439 --> 01:34:30.520 all of the residents and say yep it's 01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:32.479 going to be converted and yes the 01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:34.880 Suburban rail Loop's going to pay for it 01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:36.840 my view the amendments are a bit 01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:39.960 premature we should come up with a view 01:34:40.039 --> 01:34:43.279 and our view is no yes yes the deal 01:34:43.359 --> 01:34:45.359 should then be done with the Suburban ra 01:34:45.439 --> 01:34:46.840 Loop to make sure that they're going to 01:34:46.920 --> 01:34:48.880 go ahead with all their commitments 01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:52.000 after we've said no to probably their 01:34:52.079 --> 01:34:55.159 most important as aspect of it and once 01:34:55.239 --> 01:34:57.279 a deal struck then we go and tell the 01:34:57.359 --> 01:34:59.399 residents but to provide an 01:34:59.479 --> 01:35:02.479 authorization now far too early in my 01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:04.319 view for paragraph 01:35:04.399 --> 01:35:06.960 two if the amendment was 01:35:07.039 --> 01:35:09.800 removed I'd support that Hol as bis but 01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:12.000 with the amendment put in can't support 01:35:12.079 --> 01:35:14.880 it thank you 01:35:14.960 --> 01:35:18.079 mayor thank you councelor Davenport is 01:35:18.159 --> 01:35:19.840 there a speaker for the 01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:24.880 motion yes councilor mcneel thank you 01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:29.560 mayor and Council has complied 01:35:29.640 --> 01:35:32.119 with the statutory obligations under 01:35:32.199 --> 01:35:36.520 section 112 and section 114 of the Local 01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:39.600 Government Act 2020 with regards to the 01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:42.840 offer by srla to purchase the watt 01:35:42.920 --> 01:35:45.520 Street and Court Street Properties in 01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:49.840 return for the exchange of 528 01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:51.960 Station Street Box 01:35:52.039 --> 01:35:55.279 Hill the proposed those transactions do 01:35:55.359 --> 01:35:58.800 not represent good value in terms of 01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:04.359 open space compensation for SLR srla 01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:07.119 taking over one quarter of Box Hill 01:36:07.199 --> 01:36:11.720 gardens for the next seven to 10 years 01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:17.439 while they construct the Box Hill srla 01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:21.479 station counselors once the land is sold 01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:24.319 to lxra it is 01:36:24.399 --> 01:36:27.680 gone if they want to rezone it to become 01:36:27.760 --> 01:36:31.239 a 40 Story Tower and sell it off to a 01:36:31.319 --> 01:36:35.199 developer for to hire to the highest 01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:39.159 bidder neither Council nor the community 01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:41.239 can stop 01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:45.439 them as ion Boya said tonight the open 01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:49.279 space in Mont Albert and S Hills was 2% 01:36:49.359 --> 01:36:53.600 in 2007 and it's reduced now with Rel 01:36:53.680 --> 01:36:57.520 lawn parade parade Reserve open space 01:36:57.600 --> 01:37:00.880 overtaken by the Union Station so what's 01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:04.039 left for open space it's m it's much 01:37:04.119 --> 01:37:07.840 less The increased density up to 10 01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:11.239 stories in in streets in Kingsley 01:37:11.319 --> 01:37:15.960 Ward the srla plans announced 01:37:16.039 --> 01:37:20.199 yesterday is is also significant and 01:37:20.279 --> 01:37:24.640 it means we must find larger higher 01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:29.880 quality opportunities for open space 01:37:29.960 --> 01:37:31.399 than what the 01:37:31.479 --> 01:37:33.720 srla offered 01:37:33.800 --> 01:37:37.239 us our community deserves much better 01:37:37.319 --> 01:37:40.960 than that and certainly I support 01:37:41.039 --> 01:37:44.520 Council Barker's view that we need to 01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:48.800 explore the the the Federation bricks 01:37:48.880 --> 01:37:52.600 brickwork site as a potential open space 01:37:52.680 --> 01:37:56.000 opportunity and we need to know our 01:37:56.079 --> 01:37:59.760 facts and then work solidly on the state 01:37:59.840 --> 01:38:03.319 government for them to acquire it from 01:38:03.399 --> 01:38:06.640 from the private owners for them to 01:38:06.720 --> 01:38:09.800 develop it and for us to be the 01:38:09.880 --> 01:38:12.640 community here to be the 01:38:12.720 --> 01:38:15.479 beneficiary certainly converting the 01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:19.079 Ensworth parade car park site into 01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:21.119 public open space at 01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:25.760 slr's Cost makes more sense as Council 01:38:25.840 --> 01:38:28.239 retains ownership and 01:38:28.319 --> 01:38:31.680 control it is right that srla be 01:38:31.760 --> 01:38:34.479 responsible for delivering design and 01:38:34.560 --> 01:38:38.199 capital Works to upgrade the Gardens at 01:38:38.279 --> 01:38:40.920 the Box Hill Gardens at the end of the 01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:44.680 project they will be dis disrupting 01:38:44.760 --> 01:38:49.039 enjoyment of Box Hill gardens a major 01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:52.640 loved Community open space asset and our 01:38:52.720 --> 01:38:56.199 community deserve their compensation 01:38:56.279 --> 01:38:59.039 deserve Fair compensation for the huge 01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:03.079 loss of amenity in White Horse I ask my 01:39:03.159 --> 01:39:06.439 councelor colleagues to support the 01:39:06.520 --> 01:39:08.920 motion thank you councelor mcneel are 01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:11.720 there any question may if I may 01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:15.239 perhaps directed to the CEO and that is 01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:17.680 is it of your opinion that the 01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:20.479 S are aware that they'll be paying 01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:22.680 for the design and delivery of 01:39:22.760 --> 01:39:26.039 ellingworth right as in point two or are 01:39:26.119 --> 01:39:28.840 we jping the 01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:35.079 gun director Jeff Green for 01:39:35.159 --> 01:39:37.680 infrastructure will speak through the 01:39:37.760 --> 01:39:40.039 May yes they are aware that they they're 01:39:40.119 --> 01:39:42.279 paying for the conversion and delivery 01:39:42.359 --> 01:39:45.159 of that as open space so we're not 01:39:45.239 --> 01:39:48.960 jping the gun in correct thank you 01:39:49.039 --> 01:39:52.640 thank you for the clarity 01:39:54.600 --> 01:39:55.720 [Music] 01:39:55.800 --> 01:39:58.439 any further 01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:04.880 speakers I thus give councilor Le 01:40:04.960 --> 01:40:08.399 right of reply thank you mayor I think 01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:11.479 councelor Lane jped the gun look 01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:13.159 just in in relation to councelor 01:40:13.239 --> 01:40:16.000 Davenport's comments I will say 01:40:16.079 --> 01:40:19.079 councilors that that this is public 01:40:19.159 --> 01:40:21.319 information what we're doing in point 01:40:21.399 --> 01:40:24.279 two with the amendment is further 01:40:24.359 --> 01:40:26.479 informing the community of what's being 01:40:26.560 --> 01:40:28.239 proposed by the Suburban rail Loop 01:40:28.319 --> 01:40:31.560 Authority certainly doesn't hurt to 01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:33.600 advise the community and also get the 01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:35.520 community more engaged in the process as 01:40:35.600 --> 01:40:36.960 well I think they should have every 01:40:37.039 --> 01:40:41.000 opportunity to provide feedback so 01:40:41.079 --> 01:40:43.479 like I said I disagree with councelor 01:40:43.560 --> 01:40:47.000 Davenport's comments and I would also 01:40:47.079 --> 01:40:49.199 like to stress that the motion also 01:40:49.279 --> 01:40:51.600 provides that opportunity for officers 01:40:51.680 --> 01:40:53.840 to engage in further discussion s with 01:40:53.920 --> 01:40:57.840 the authority in relation to any open 01:40:57.920 --> 01:41:00.439 space opportunities including the 01:41:00.520 --> 01:41:02.600 former brick work side as mentioned 01:41:02.680 --> 01:41:04.279 by my fellow councilors and the 01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:07.520 presenters tonight in Box Hill please 01:41:07.600 --> 01:41:11.119 support the motion thank 01:41:11.199 --> 01:41:15.000 you thank you councilor Leu I will now 01:41:15.079 --> 01:41:19.600 put the motion to the vote all those in 01:41:19.680 --> 01:41:24.079 favor carried unanimously 01:41:31.439 --> 01:41:34.880 that takes us to item 10.3 records of 01:41:34.960 --> 01:41:37.960 informal meetings of counselors I seek a 01:41:38.039 --> 01:41:40.840 mover I move Happ a second thank you 01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:44.319 councilor Lane and councelor 01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:46.479 Monroe this is 01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:49.039 procedural I'll put it to the vote all 01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:50.439 those in 01:41:50.520 --> 01:41:54.920 favor carried unanimously 01:42:03.119 --> 01:42:06.039 we now move to item 11.1 which is 01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:08.840 reports by delegates and reports on 01:42:08.920 --> 01:42:11.800 conferences and seminars 01:42:11.880 --> 01:42:14.479 attendance I remind counselors if you 01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:16.680 have not submitted written reports for 01:42:16.760 --> 01:42:21.600 the minutes to keep your verbal reports 01:42:21.680 --> 01:42:24.680 brief I will comments with councilor 01:42:24.760 --> 01:42:25.680 Andrew 01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:28.319 dport no 01:42:28.399 --> 01:42:31.960 report councilor Tina Le thank you mayor 01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:35.159 I attended the monthly Eastern transport 01:42:35.239 --> 01:42:38.199 Coalition board meeting on Thursday the 01:42:38.279 --> 01:42:41.279 18th of April and what was presented 01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:44.600 there was around advocacy leading 01:42:44.680 --> 01:42:47.760 up to the federal and state elections 01:42:47.840 --> 01:42:49.840 and looking at a plan and strategy 01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:52.279 around there as well as potential 01:42:52.359 --> 01:42:53.680 funding as well 01:42:53.760 --> 01:42:57.479 so I've circulated the last most 01:42:57.560 --> 01:42:59.560 recent ratified minutes to counselors 01:42:59.640 --> 01:43:01.119 and I will do so for this meeting once 01:43:01.199 --> 01:43:03.279 it's available thank you thank you 01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:06.319 councilor new councelor skilbeck 01:43:06.399 --> 01:43:07.720 thank you mayor and I have submitted 01:43:07.800 --> 01:43:09.720 written reference to governance I 01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:12.600 attended the white Hol Manningham 01:43:12.680 --> 01:43:16.319 libraries audit and risk committee on 01:43:16.399 --> 01:43:19.560 anzak the 24th of April the main 01:43:19.640 --> 01:43:21.600 topic of conversation being setting 01:43:21.680 --> 01:43:23.880 the parameters for the external audit of 01:43:23.960 --> 01:43:26.880 the current year thank you mayor thank 01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:30.399 you Council skilbeck Council Lane thank 01:43:30.479 --> 01:43:32.520 you mayor on Thursday the 18th of April 01:43:32.600 --> 01:43:34.960 with your good self attended the easn 01:43:35.039 --> 01:43:36.760 region group meeting as well as the 01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:39.000 Eastern region group MAV representative 01:43:39.079 --> 01:43:41.840 meeting after that I did circulate 01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:43.840 the agenda and the previous minutes and 01:43:43.920 --> 01:43:45.880 we'll do so with the next ones when they 01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:48.159 come 01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:53.680 out thank you councilor lion councelor c 01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:56.199 thank you mayor I attended with 01:43:56.279 --> 01:43:59.159 yourself on the 17th of April the White 01:43:59.239 --> 01:44:01.000 Horse environment and sustainability 01:44:01.079 --> 01:44:02.800 reference group which I have 01:44:02.880 --> 01:44:05.119 forwarded the minutes around to the 01:44:05.199 --> 01:44:07.760 group already and the following night on 01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:09.600 the 18th of April I attended with 01:44:09.680 --> 01:44:12.640 councilor stennet the White Horse Sport 01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:15.880 and Recreation reference group our first 01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:18.720 meeting for the year I'll let 01:44:18.800 --> 01:44:20.159 councilor Stenner who's now been 01:44:20.239 --> 01:44:22.439 appointed the chair of the group to do 01:44:22.520 --> 01:44:24.640 most of the talking on this but I do 01:44:24.720 --> 01:44:26.079 want to point out a couple of things 01:44:26.159 --> 01:44:28.319 that we've got a new group which is 01:44:28.399 --> 01:44:31.000 fantastic a very diverse group of not 01:44:31.079 --> 01:44:34.119 only Sports people and people in 01:44:34.199 --> 01:44:37.399 committees but also people on Scouts 01:44:37.479 --> 01:44:41.119 groups in running clubs in 01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:44.119 swimming and Aquatics and some of the 01:44:44.199 --> 01:44:45.640 things that have come out for me we've 01:44:45.720 --> 01:44:49.760 got some really good women on 01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:52.000 there who are very strong in ensuring 01:44:52.079 --> 01:44:54.960 gender equality top of mind and also 01:44:55.039 --> 01:44:56.560 inclusion I think it's going to be a 01:44:56.640 --> 01:44:58.600 very good group to work with this year 01:44:58.680 --> 01:45:00.039 mayor and I'm looking forward to it 01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:01.479 thank 01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:05.039 you thank you councelor 01:45:05.119 --> 01:45:08.439 mcneel I I only attended one one 01:45:08.520 --> 01:45:11.840 event I think this in this cycle and 01:45:11.920 --> 01:45:15.439 that was the what's called 01:45:15.520 --> 01:45:17.079 called with 01:45:17.159 --> 01:45:22.640 La lunch and learn managing 01:45:22.720 --> 01:45:26.800 difficult conversations run by the VGA 01:45:26.880 --> 01:45:30.520 online Miss Melissa 01:45:30.600 --> 01:45:33.920 scanderson employment lawyer LED this 01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:38.119 online workshop and it was around 01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:40.640 the issue of what makes 01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:43.399 conversation difficult and things 01:45:43.479 --> 01:45:47.039 like different values erosion of trust 01:45:47.119 --> 01:45:49.800 and sense of fairness were some of 01:45:49.880 --> 01:45:53.640 the issues that were then put into 01:45:53.720 --> 01:45:57.399 practice with some some scenarios and 01:45:57.479 --> 01:46:00.640 it was a really great great event 01:46:00.720 --> 01:46:03.319 so I think a couple of my other 01:46:03.399 --> 01:46:05.880 colleagues were also attended that as 01:46:05.960 --> 01:46:09.399 well so yeah a great great learning 01:46:09.479 --> 01:46:11.560 opportunity and I certainly did learn a 01:46:11.640 --> 01:46:13.960 lot on how to how to deal with some some 01:46:14.039 --> 01:46:17.199 more challenging people and 01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:19.079 situations thank 01:46:19.159 --> 01:46:21.800 you councelor stenard thank you mayor 01:46:21.880 --> 01:46:24.720 it's councelor c said it was my 01:46:24.800 --> 01:46:27.479 pleasure to chair the first meeting 01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:28.840 of the year for the White House SP 01:46:28.920 --> 01:46:31.680 sports and recreation reference group 01:46:31.760 --> 01:46:33.319 attended with Council officers members 01:46:33.399 --> 01:46:36.399 of the group and Council cuts in 01:46:36.479 --> 01:46:37.960 our first meeting of the year we welcome 01:46:38.039 --> 01:46:40.079 both new and familiar ones to the 01:46:40.159 --> 01:46:42.560 committee there were some so fresh 01:46:42.640 --> 01:46:45.079 perspectives alongside seasoned 01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:47.439 expertise we spent some time 01:46:47.520 --> 01:46:48.800 celebrating and recapping our 01:46:48.880 --> 01:46:52.239 achievements in 2023 reflecting on 01:46:52.319 --> 01:46:53.920 some of the key actions enhancing 01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:56.560 Leisure and Recreation services across 01:46:56.640 --> 01:46:58.760 White Horse looking ahead we looked 01:46:58.840 --> 01:47:00.359 at the current landscape of our Leisure 01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:03.199 and services department alongside 01:47:03.279 --> 01:47:05.720 ongoing initiatives such as the Open 01:47:05.800 --> 01:47:08.079 Space strategy and master planning 01:47:08.159 --> 01:47:10.359 currently underway a key highlight for 01:47:10.439 --> 01:47:12.039 the year will be the sports and rck 01:47:12.119 --> 01:47:15.239 Awards as always we discuss the 01:47:15.319 --> 01:47:16.960 nomination process and the judging 01:47:17.039 --> 01:47:19.439 criteria that will shape the event 01:47:19.520 --> 01:47:21.399 importantly we emphasize the 01:47:21.479 --> 01:47:23.399 significance of community inut members 01:47:23.479 --> 01:47:25.840 of the group have an opportunity to 01:47:25.920 --> 01:47:28.039 shape Council plans and nominate topics 01:47:28.119 --> 01:47:30.359 of interest for future meetings ensuring 01:47:30.439 --> 01:47:32.239 our agenda remains responsive to the 01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:35.640 needs of our diverse Community thank you 01:47:35.720 --> 01:47:38.560 may thank you council state Council 01:47:38.640 --> 01:47:40.720 Monro thank you mayor in terms of 01:47:40.800 --> 01:47:43.000 delegates meeting I attend with yourself 01:47:43.079 --> 01:47:45.840 in your capacity as the VGA president 01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:47.159 you were there for the first hour I was 01:47:47.239 --> 01:47:50.279 there for the full two hours but I 01:47:50.359 --> 01:47:52.760 know you had another meeting May the 01:47:52.840 --> 01:47:54.399 local government working group on 01:47:54.479 --> 01:47:56.760 gambling was quite an informative 01:47:56.840 --> 01:47:58.720 meeting well attended by the councilors 01:47:58.800 --> 01:48:00.720 who have Representatives I just want 01:48:00.800 --> 01:48:02.159 to highlight one point there was a bit 01:48:02.239 --> 01:48:04.560 of discussion about the card for play 01:48:04.640 --> 01:48:07.279 carded play for Pok machines it's 01:48:07.359 --> 01:48:11.079 been introduced at crown and they've 01:48:11.159 --> 01:48:13.880 said their revenue is down 30% due to 01:48:13.960 --> 01:48:17.359 the introduction what is noted is the 01:48:17.439 --> 01:48:20.239 gaming losses have increased at the 01:48:20.319 --> 01:48:23.000 license venues and other venues close 01:48:23.079 --> 01:48:25.800 proximity to Crown so I think it's 01:48:25.880 --> 01:48:27.199 important for local government to keep 01:48:27.279 --> 01:48:28.640 the pressure on the state government to 01:48:28.720 --> 01:48:31.159 make sure that carded play is issued 01:48:31.239 --> 01:48:35.359 across the state so it's a Level 01:48:35.439 --> 01:48:38.439 Playing Field but also it leads to harm 01:48:38.520 --> 01:48:41.039 minimization and also as a stop 01:48:41.119 --> 01:48:43.079 against money laundering through the 01:48:43.159 --> 01:48:45.880 poker machines I also attended the 01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:47.800 same day in the evening light of 01:48:47.880 --> 01:48:50.399 footprints under conferences seminars 01:48:50.479 --> 01:48:53.439 your 2030 home and neighborhood 01:48:53.520 --> 01:48:56.399 the focus was EV specialist and 01:48:56.479 --> 01:48:58.239 energy specialist I won't go into 01:48:58.319 --> 01:48:59.560 that there's something in my report 01:48:59.640 --> 01:49:01.439 happy to share some slides on that if 01:49:01.520 --> 01:49:02.920 anyone's interested but I did want to 01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:05.800 highlight Liz Irvin from stantech 01:49:05.880 --> 01:49:07.239 who's actually done some work for White 01:49:07.319 --> 01:49:09.800 Horse Council she's a transport planner 01:49:09.880 --> 01:49:11.520 she's looking at pedestrian 01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:14.560 pedestrianization around schools and how 01:49:14.640 --> 01:49:16.680 that changes and it makes drop offs 01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:19.159 easier and safer but also activates the 01:49:19.239 --> 01:49:22.640 area parents come and mingle in those 01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:25.279 activated spaces and it has a lot of 01:49:25.359 --> 01:49:27.279 benefits but I'm just going to read 01:49:27.359 --> 01:49:29.079 you the very quickly the statistics from 01:49:29.159 --> 01:49:31.840 some of our slides this is researched by 01:49:31.920 --> 01:49:34.039 Marbeck Council strange children are 01:49:34.119 --> 01:49:35.319 among the least active in the world 01:49:35.399 --> 01:49:38.039 ranking 140 out of 146 countries of 01:49:38.119 --> 01:49:39.920 physical activity School traffic 01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:41.359 accounts for 20% of traffic in the 01:49:41.439 --> 01:49:43.520 morning Peak period children who walk or 01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:45.079 ride to school perform better at tasks 01:49:45.159 --> 01:49:47.119 that require concentration children who 01:49:47.199 --> 01:49:48.800 walk and ride have better spatial 01:49:48.880 --> 01:49:51.239 awareness I've written special awareness 01:49:51.319 --> 01:49:53.079 spatial awareness for those who read my 01:49:53.159 --> 01:49:55.079 report and children who walk or ride 01:49:55.159 --> 01:49:56.880 to school when asked how they prefer to 01:49:56.960 --> 01:50:01.920 travel 57% Say by bike 26 by walking and 01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:04.520 only 6% of students are saying that they 01:50:04.600 --> 01:50:07.359 want to be driven to school so 01:50:07.439 --> 01:50:08.920 reflecting on that I think I was a bad 01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:10.560 parent to some extent when the kids went 01:50:10.640 --> 01:50:13.439 to Primary School a kilometer away 01:50:13.520 --> 01:50:16.359 but I think that's very important and 01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:19.159 I think it it strengthens our arm 01:50:19.239 --> 01:50:20.720 when we look at these programs at a 01:50:20.800 --> 01:50:24.399 council level thank you mayor 01:50:24.479 --> 01:50:27.079 thank you councilor mon Council 01:50:27.159 --> 01:50:29.640 Barker oh thanks May and I read the 01:50:29.720 --> 01:50:32.199 financial review today that Crown Crown 01:50:32.279 --> 01:50:36.479 Cino is making a th people redundant so 01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:39.079 there's always two sides to any story 01:50:39.159 --> 01:50:42.319 isn't there and I wish those people 01:50:42.399 --> 01:50:45.039 that are now without a job the best 01:50:45.119 --> 01:50:48.640 of luck but I I actually attended the 01:50:48.720 --> 01:50:51.039 Harvard Kennedy school policy cast quite 01:50:51.119 --> 01:50:53.239 early on Friday morning 01:50:53.319 --> 01:50:56.640 with Professor Doug mundorf who's the 01:50:56.720 --> 01:50:59.439 dean of the Harvard Kennedy School and 01:50:59.520 --> 01:51:02.560 he's an incredibly interesting man 01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:06.439 about policy makers and policy experts 01:51:06.520 --> 01:51:09.439 is the framework that he has on that and 01:51:09.520 --> 01:51:11.560 having worked in the Congressional 01:51:11.640 --> 01:51:13.279 budget office and all sorts of things 01:51:13.359 --> 01:51:15.399 this I mean these are really impressive 01:51:15.479 --> 01:51:16.760 people and I think there were some 01:51:16.840 --> 01:51:19.119 really great 01:51:19.199 --> 01:51:23.800 recommendations from professor elor 01:51:23.880 --> 01:51:27.239 about what should constitute high 01:51:27.319 --> 01:51:30.720 quality policy expertise and one of the 01:51:30.800 --> 01:51:32.680 first things was it needs to be hble 01:51:32.760 --> 01:51:33.880 and you need to admit when you don't 01:51:33.960 --> 01:51:35.760 have all the answers there's a couple of 01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:37.520 things I'll email it to Mr M I will 01:51:37.600 --> 01:51:39.159 email it to everyone because you 01:51:39.239 --> 01:51:41.479 actually listen to it they record it and 01:51:41.560 --> 01:51:43.439 it's just a really 01:51:43.520 --> 01:51:46.119 great really great pieces of 01:51:46.199 --> 01:51:49.439 accessible advice both for PO for policy 01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:52.000 experts and for policy makers and about 01:51:52.079 --> 01:51:52.960 how we build 01:51:53.039 --> 01:51:55.520 trust with our communities and take 01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:58.159 our communities through change in a time 01:51:58.239 --> 01:52:00.479 when trust in politics is an alltime low 01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:03.119 so it was about public policy values and 01:52:03.199 --> 01:52:06.119 politics recommended to you 01:52:06.199 --> 01:52:09.960 all thank you Council Baka I'll just 01:52:10.039 --> 01:52:11.960 list what I've attended because most of 01:52:12.039 --> 01:52:14.279 them have been already referenced I 01:52:14.359 --> 01:52:16.560 attended the environment and 01:52:16.640 --> 01:52:18.399 sustainability reference group on the 01:52:18.479 --> 01:52:21.920 17th of April thank you Council cuts for 01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:24.560 your the report the local government 01:52:24.640 --> 01:52:27.279 working group on gambling thank you 01:52:27.359 --> 01:52:29.800 councilor Monroe for you elaborating 01:52:29.880 --> 01:52:32.880 about the meeting also the ERG meeting 01:52:32.960 --> 01:52:35.880 on the 18th of April followed by the MAV 01:52:35.960 --> 01:52:39.279 Metro East meeting which was noted by 01:52:39.359 --> 01:52:42.960 Council Lane and I also attended the VGA 01:52:43.039 --> 01:52:45.439 lunch and learn session on difficult 01:52:45.520 --> 01:52:47.439 conversations which was presented by 01:52:47.520 --> 01:52:50.279 Melissa scadden from justia 01:52:50.359 --> 01:52:53.520 lawyers I did want to perhaps 01:52:53.600 --> 01:52:55.840 deviate just very slightly because we 01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:59.239 have had a a week of very much focused 01:52:59.319 --> 01:53:02.520 on the service of many Australians and I 01:53:02.600 --> 01:53:05.880 just wanted to mention that some of 01:53:05.960 --> 01:53:07.520 the Anzac Services there were some 01:53:07.600 --> 01:53:09.560 outstanding ones in the 01:53:09.640 --> 01:53:12.399 municipality I couldn't get to them 01:53:12.479 --> 01:53:15.039 all but I did attend the Salvation Army 01:53:15.119 --> 01:53:18.920 service the one at wle Park the Box Hill 01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:22.760 RSL School service the Box Hill RSL Dawn 01:53:22.840 --> 01:53:25.159 service and I was able to then drop into 01:53:25.239 --> 01:53:28.399 the Blackburn RSL but perhaps what was 01:53:28.479 --> 01:53:31.239 very special was after the dawn service 01:53:31.319 --> 01:53:32.960 at Box Hill 01:53:33.039 --> 01:53:36.359 RSL there was an author 01:53:36.439 --> 01:53:40.319 there George Petr oam and he was 01:53:40.399 --> 01:53:43.199 launching his book and he very kindly 01:53:43.279 --> 01:53:45.560 gave a copy to what the city of White 01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:49.479 Horse and it's got some amazing 01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:52.560 stories in it and absolutely will be a 01:53:52.640 --> 01:53:55.560 treasure it will be available I'll 01:53:55.640 --> 01:53:57.239 let counselors perhaps have a look and 01:53:57.319 --> 01:53:59.359 then might go to the library where the 01:53:59.439 --> 01:54:02.239 community will be able to access it 01:54:02.319 --> 01:54:04.920 and I will note that many of us know 01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:07.760 Lindsay Burke who looks after the S 01:54:07.840 --> 01:54:10.039 Hills Cadets and Lindsay has written one 01:54:10.119 --> 01:54:12.000 of the sections in here and he was 01:54:12.079 --> 01:54:14.039 present that morning so I got him to 01:54:14.119 --> 01:54:16.000 sign his little section so he's got his 01:54:16.079 --> 01:54:18.840 signatures in the middle too but it was 01:54:18.920 --> 01:54:22.760 a a very lovely gift from George Petr 01:54:22.840 --> 01:54:25.840 oam the author of that book it the 01:54:25.920 --> 01:54:28.319 forward is by General Sir Peter 01:54:28.399 --> 01:54:32.119 Cosgrove so it's a very impressive book 01:54:32.199 --> 01:54:35.079 so we were very lucky to be given that 01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:39.279 gift and I have no more to 01:54:39.359 --> 01:54:42.600 report so councilors I seek a motion to 01:54:42.680 --> 01:54:45.359 receive and note these reports move to 01:54:45.439 --> 01:54:48.359 move happy to Second moved councelor 01:54:48.439 --> 01:54:53.479 Monroe seconded counselor Le 01:54:53.560 --> 01:54:55.279 I've got to have my listening ears going 01:54:55.359 --> 01:55:00.279 both ways I think all those in 01:55:00.359 --> 01:55:03.720 favor carried 01:55:04.600 --> 01:55:06.720 unanimously that brings us to the close 01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:09.439 of the meeting the next ordinary council 01:55:09.520 --> 01:55:11.720 meeting will be held on Monday the 13th 01:55:11.800 --> 01:55:13.600 of May 01:55:13.680 --> 01:55:17.960 2024 I now close the meeting at 01:55:18.039 --> 01:55:20.800 8:57 and I hope you all enjoy the rest 01:55:20.880 --> 01:55:24.319 of your evening good night