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Well, good evening everyone. I am

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councelor Andrew Davenport, Mayor of

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Whitehorse City Council, and I welcome to all

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who have joined this council meeting in

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person and online. And tonight, I'm

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delighted because it's the first time

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I've had a hybrid meeting as Mayor and

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and having all of our counselors here

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and  councelor Barker joining

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remotely. So, cuz I haven't done any

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pre-testing, councelor Barker, can you

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just talk? I just want to make sure I

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can hear you.

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Oh, I can talk. Mayor absolutely.

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Of course you can. Now remember, councilor

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Barker, you got to call out Mayor because

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I won't be looking up there  to the

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screens that that are  above me there.

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So  just as a reminder for

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yourself, councelor Barker, so you got

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to be able to hear everything

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and you got to be able to see the

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counselors and staff and at least when

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someone's speaking and I assume you'll

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get the live feed for that and you got

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to have your camera on

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and you got to be heard clearly. So, if

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there is technical difficulty, we're

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going to continue the meeting

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councelor Barker and just rejoin us as

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soon as you're able to and we'll have

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officers here that will help with that

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should that need arise. So for everyone

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else  in the gallery council

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live streams council meetings and while

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all care is taken to maintain privacy

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someone attending in the meeting in the

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public gallery may be recorded and

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appear in the live stream and a copy of

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the live stream will be available for

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viewing on council's website within 48

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hours. I will now open this council

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meeting and will recite the opening and

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acknowledgement of country. Please stand

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if you're able to.

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We give thanks, O God, for the Men and

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Women of the past whose generous

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devotion to the common good has been the

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making of our City. Grant that our own

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generation may build worthily on the

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foundations they have laid. Direct our

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minds that all we plan and determine is

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for the well-being of our City. Amen.

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Whitehorse City Council acknowledges

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the Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung people of the Kulin

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Nation as traditional owners of the land

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we're meeting on and we pay our respects

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to their Elders past, present, and

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emerging and Aboriginal and Torres Strait

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Islanders from communities who may be

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present today. Please be seated.

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So I would now like to introduce our

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counselors commencing with counselors on

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my left, Deputy Mayor, councelor Prue

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Cutts.

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Thank you Mayor. Good evening everyone,

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especially those who've made the effort

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to come in to the gallery today. Those

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who might be live streaming at home and

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of course good to see councelor Barker

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attend the meeting too. Thank you Mayor.

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Councelor Jarrod Gunn.

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Good evening Mayor. Welcome all.

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Councelor Kieran Simpson.

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Good evening Mayor. Good evening all.

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and  councelor Barker, I hope the

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weather's better where you are, mate.

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Councelor Hayley Weller,

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good evening and welcome.

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Councelor Jason Martin,

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good evening everyone.

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Councelor Ben Stennett,

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good evening everyone and welcome.

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Councelor Kirsten Langford.

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Good evening everyone and welcome to all

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those from both Sparks and Kingsley

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Wards tonight. Thank you for coming.

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Councelor Daniel Griffiths

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Good evening everyone.

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And online councelor Blair Barker

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Well, good evening, Mayor, and  thank

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you to the IT team and the governance

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team for setting this up. Their work

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has been truly exceptional. Coming to

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you from a couple of time zones away and

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 they say  travel is fatal to

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predjudice and I suspect it may also be

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fatal to the battery on this

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laptop which seems to be coming in out

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of charge. So, if I do disappear, Mayor,

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it's not because anything 

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catastrophic has happened to me, but

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rather the laptop battery might

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 and I'm not sure whether it's the

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cord or the power supply to the room

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that I'm in. Thank you, Mayor. Good

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evening.

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Thank you. And we're also joined by our

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CEO and senior officers. I'll commence

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with chief executive officer Simon

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McMillan.

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Evening everyone. Welcome.

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Jeff Green, director of city

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development. Steven White, director of

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infrastructure. Lisa Letic, director of

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community services. Kallista Clark,

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acting director corporate services,

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Andrea Gastine, executive manager

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transformation. Vivienne Felano, manager

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governance, and members of the

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governance and IT team.

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And item number two, apologies. So, we

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will note any apologies and seek a

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motion to accept any leave of absence

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requests. Councelor Allen is already an

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apology this evening and  as per his

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leave of request and approve on the 14th

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of July. Are there any further leaves of

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absences

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 that any council wants to table for a

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future council meeting? No. Item number

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three, disclosures of conflicts of

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interest. Are there any disclosures of

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conflicts of interest? If so, I will

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require councilors and officers to

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disclose that interest and the nature of

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that interest.

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 through you, Mayor, I have a material

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conflict of interest in relation to

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12.1, which is the CEO employment matters

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review. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Yes, Mayor. I have a general interest in

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relation to item 10.3 Northeast Link

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urban design and landscape plan

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submission for Tram Road to Spring Bell

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Road.

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Thank you. Any further conflicts,

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disclosures? No. Item four, confirmation

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of minutes. Councilors you'll need

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to confirm the minutes or otherwise for

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the council meeting held on the 22nd of

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September, 2025. Can I please have the

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counselor to move?

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Happy to move. Councelor Simpson move.

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I seek a councelor to second.

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Second, Mayor.

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Councelor Weller. Is there any

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discussion? I'll put the motion to the

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vote. Those in favor?

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Yep. Carried unanimously.

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 item five,  councilors, are there

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any items of urgent business this

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evening?

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No.

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Request to speak. Request to speak

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enables members of the community to

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speak directly to council at a council

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meeting. Each speaker is granted up to 3

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minutes to present their subject matter.

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A bell, and that sounds like that bell,

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will alert you when there are 30 seconds

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remaining. And please ensure that your

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speech is respectful, relevant, and

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expressed in a manner that upholds

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courtesy. And tonight we have four

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speakers.

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The first to speak tonight is Lisa White

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of Box Hill Cricket Club and I invite

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Lisa to the lecturn.

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Good evening Mayor and counselors. Thank

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you for the opportunity to speak. I'm

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here this evening on behalf of Box Hill

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Cricket Club in respect to item 10.1 on

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the agenda which relates to the Box Hill

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City Oval Management option being

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presented to you for endorsement this

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evening. As you no doubt recall, this

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item was listed at a previous council

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meeting and our club appeared before you

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requesting additional time to understand

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the management options given the short

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time between their release and the

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council meeting. We realize that

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deferral of an item is something that is

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not considered lightly. We greatly

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appreciate the additional time given to

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our club to consider the management

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options and to confer with other

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parties. We believe that we have used

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the additional time well and we've been

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able to create the joint submission from

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our club and the Box Hill Hawks football

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club that is presented tonight. In

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particular, our club was able to meet

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with council officers, counselors and

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representatives from the Box Hill Hawks

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since the last council meeting. These

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meetings allowed us to better understand

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the options presented, to give our

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feedback, and to create a joint

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submission between our club and the

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Box Hill Hawks that we consider presents

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a model that meets everyone's needs.

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I would personally like to thank council

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officers Tim Gladhill and Kyle Chandler,

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councilors Langford and Allen and Pat

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Clancy and Ed Sil from the Hawks for

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their time to meet as part of this

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process. The joint submission that we

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have put together largely mirrors the

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original option one that was put forward

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for the meeting on September 22nd but

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with some amendments. The amendments are

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proposed in order to ensure that the

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usage of the facilities at City Oval

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post redevelopment will suit the

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requirements for cricket and football

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and community usage. In particular, the

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amendments include a fit for purpose

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umpire space with showers and toilets in

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the south pavillion, usage of an external

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storage space in the west pavillion and

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seasonal usage of limited spaces in the

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west pavillion such as a room for scorers

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on game days and access to the kiosk so

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that we can provide for players and

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spectators during the summer season.

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Alongside this amended option, we have

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discussed a partnership memorandum of

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understanding with the Box Hill Hawks. The

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combination of the amended option one

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and thisou provides a solution that

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works for both the tenant clubs and

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community usage. The arrangements give

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our members more clarity over usage,

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enable diverse community use and support

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commercial outcomes of the redeveloped

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Box Hill City Oval. Theou will provide a

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clear understanding of the usage of the

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gym and function space and a

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collaborative approach to growing

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commercial opportunities at the city

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oval site.

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Thank you again for the opportunity of

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additional time for our club to

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understand and provide input on the

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Box Hill City Oval management option.

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We've really appreciated the

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understanding shown by council staff,

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councilors, and the Box Hill Hawks.

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Box Hill Cricket Club is excited by the

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opportunities ahead for all parties in

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relation to the redeveloped Box Hill City

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Oval, and we seek your support of the

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joint submission presented today. Thank

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you.

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Thank you, Lisa. The next to speak

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tonight is Ed Sil from Box Hill Hawks

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Football Club. I now invite Ed to the

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lead lecturn.

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 thanks Mayor and councilors and all

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staff. It's a a great honour to be in

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front of you today.  Lisa has outlined

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the  the position that the two

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sporting clubs have come to  in

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relation to 10.1 option one.  I'd just

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like to take the opportunity to thank

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all people within the council over a

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number of years on this journey. Um

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there's been a number of particularly

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councils and staff who've been

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incredibly supportive of the two clubs

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 and working the program now which I

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think is probably well into 10 years

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since the the initial concept  really

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started to take  to take heed. 

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sporting clubs like ours and and  the

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cricketer club are very much community

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at heart and we consider the  the

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opportunity being presented to us  not

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a  not a right but rather a privilege.

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It's a privilege we don't take  for

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granted. It's not something that  we

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do anything other than say how can we

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take how do we maximize the opportunity

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that we've been presented  across all

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forms of government and but particularly

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through Whitehorse. The coming together

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of the football club and cricket club is

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actually quite a unique outcome. I've

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been a a football administrator now for

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almost 35 years and in that time 

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football clubs and cricket clubs have

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historically been cats and dogs in the

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way that they've looked to  not

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maximize the facility that was made

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available to them. Again, a a right

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rather than a privilege. , and I've

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I've got to  say a particular thank

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you to Lisa from Box Hill Cricket Club who

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acknowledge the opportunity as a joint

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group as opposed to individual clubs to

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not only maximize the commercial

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opportunity that is available to not

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only maximize the opportunity from a

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high performance  outcome but most

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importantly how do we collectively

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maximize the community benefit of this

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facility. I think  as I say  I see

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lots of wars going on particularly at

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this time of year as we cross over from

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football to cricket  between the two

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clubs  between the the the various

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tenants and it makes no sense to me

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because the facility is not theirs it's

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ours and it's and when I say ours I mean

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the the collective hours. So we don't

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take this um position for anything for

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granted. We really do appreciate the

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input from the cricket club. I'm not

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sure yet we as a a a football club or

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cricket club actually understand the

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wonderful benefits benefits that are

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going to come from this redevelopment. I

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think it's  it's it's going to be a

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remarkable outcome for the community of

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Whitehorse and I can absolutely commit

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from a football club that will be doing

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everything we can to maximize the

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community benefit for it. Thank you very

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much.

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Thank you Ed. The next to speak tonight

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is Vincent Manili from Box Hill Brickwork

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Parkland Association. I now invite

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Vincent

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to the lecturn.

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Thank you again for the opportunity to

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address council again about the former

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Box Hill brick work site. Our passion and

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determination has grown within the

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community over the last two years.

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Something that has been talked about for

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30 years before that. The Box Hill Brick

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Works Parkland Association has over 80

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members and we have a petition with over

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6,850

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people supporting this great cause. We

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continue to advocate for the brick work

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site to deliver amazing passive green

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open space that Box Hill so desperately

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needs for the coming years. Our

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association members have spoken to

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everybody regarding this important cause

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including federal state representatives

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to you all as our local counselors.

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Everyone has come back to us and said

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how important this park is for our

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future. We have covered many reasons why

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this is so needed. Some facts. The

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government forecasts that Box Hill's

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population will double over the next 15

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years. We know that 25% of Box Hill

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gardens will be closed for nearly a

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decade of this time with the amenities

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of the remaining gardens impacted by the

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heavy construction works.

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The Box Hill Box Hill site south of Whitehorse

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Road and the railway line is ideal

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for a community park and passive

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recreation situated within easy walking

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distance of the densest part of Box

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Hill.

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We firmly believe it is this type of

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open space in the heart of Box Hill which

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is a big key to its future livability.

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In the past week, we have learned that

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the suburban railway loop authority has

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agreed with the owner of the Brickwork

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site to scale up the density and

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building heights over the site,

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including taller buildings in the middle

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of the site. So they have gone from

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public advertising of five-story

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buildings on the site to now it's 10

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stories in height with taller buildings

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through the center.

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Also extending Montelbert Road as a

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major road link through the site has

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also replaced an earlier plan for a

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pedestrian and cycle path.

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Whitehorse council has long experience

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in strategic planning and we strongly

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support council's call on the state

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government that the opportunity to

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secure the brick work site for public

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open space should be highly prioritized

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for the future of Box Hill.

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The community must not be ignored.

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We need to take a stand to say this must

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be done now. Thank you again.

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Thank you Vincent. The last speaker

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tonight is Helen from the Whitehorse

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Activity Center and I understand Helen's

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speech is about Man's Reserve. Thank

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you, Helen.

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Yes, I'm Helen St. John, a member of the

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Whitehorse Activities Club and a very

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keen weekly player of table tennis at

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Man's Reserve pavillion at Forest Hill.

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I'm hoping for clarification on issues

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which have surrounded the future of

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indoor sports at this pavillion.

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Unfortunately, the 350 weekly players at

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this hall are clouded with confusion

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about the viability of the pavillion and

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our ability to continue to play the

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numerous indoor sports. The hall is used

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three sessions a day, every day,

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mornings, afternoons, and evenings for

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50 weeks of the year. Some of our groups

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have weight lists. We are

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oversubscribed.

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The council's um last department claims

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to be reaching out to all stakeholders.

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However, our approaches to them have had

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us wait up to nine weeks for a response.

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These responses are generic in content

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and token at best.

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The prevailing solution from council

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sees us relocating to another facility.

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This is not fit for our purposes and

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will exclude many elderly players from

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participating as they walk to Man's

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Reserve

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as they currently walk to Man's Reserve.

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As me our members as Whitehorse Council

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rate payers expect a rigorous and

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transparent process for discussions

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about the future of the hall and indoor

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sports in particular. We respectfully

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request that counselors in attendance

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tonight ensure the future of Man's Hall

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is multi-purpose and not just for the

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traditional outdoor sports of cricket

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and soccer. Our membership is comprised

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of seniors, the elderly and

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multicultural players who rely heavily

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on indoor activities as a lifeline.

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Table tennis is more than just hitting a

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ball over a table. We share stories,

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travels and experiences, show care

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towards others, congratulate new

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arrivals and become a safe place for

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those recovering from trauma. Our club

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is more than just a club. It is family.

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And you and your staff are very welcome

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to visit anytime. Please just knock on

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the door. Thank you.

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Thank you, Helen.

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the speakers tonight. So, I'm going to

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move on to the next item, , which is

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item number seven, public question time.

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, tonight we have five public

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questions. Two questions have been

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submitted from Tony Wang from Box Hill

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South, one question from Edward Nelson

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from Mont Elbert, and two questions from

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Kevin Earl from Box Hill. and the

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questions will be read aloud um and

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responded to by the relevant director.

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Before I call Lisa to the lecturn to

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address Tony's questions, I got to have

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a quick pause and and ask um our CEO a

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question. So, just bear with me a

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second. Thank you, Lisa.

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Thank you. I will now go to invite Lisa

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Leic, director of community services, to

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the lecturn to address Tony's

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questions.

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Thank you, Mayor. The first question is,

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has the table tennis feasibility study

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been completed? The response is no, it

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hasn't. It's about 60% complete. The

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second question is if the table tennis

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feasibility study has been completed

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when will it be released to the public

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and the response the second round of

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community engagement will be when it's

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released and it's planned for early

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2026. Thank you.

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Thank you Lisa. I now invite Jeff Green,

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director of city development to the leg

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turn to address Edwards and Kevin's

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questions.

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Thank you, Mayor. First question from

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Edward Nelson. Will council commit to

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reviewing and amending the residential

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parking permit scheme to entitle older

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properties built prior to 2011 to have

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one visitor parking permit in line with

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Bureandara City Council's parking

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scheme. Amendments to Whitehorse

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parking permit scheme in 2023 have

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produced inequities for my neighbors and

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I who have onecar garages and are

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ineligible for parking permits as we

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have 19 units across two blocks. This is

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unfair as our properties were built in

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the 1960s and were entitled to permits

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prior to 2012. Whitehorse's scheme

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effectively means that visits from my

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family and friends are limited to two

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hours through Yare. Council's

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residential parking permit policy

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introduced in 2022 is not currently

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under review. However, community

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feedback is regularly considered to

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guide future improvements. The policy

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ensures fair and balanced use of public

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parking with permit eligibility scaled

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to dwelling density. Developments with

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more than 15 dwellings are not eligible.

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This approach supports equity, manages

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demand responsibly, and prepares for the

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impacts of high density living and

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population growth. Whitehorse's

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approach is consistent with other

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councils. For example, Yara excludes all

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multi-dwelling properties. Bondara

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restricts newer developments and Port

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Phillip links eligibility to dwelling

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type and on street availability.

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Council continues to monitor parking

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patterns across the municipality and

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will adjust restrictions or permit set

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settings where needed to maintain

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fairness and accessibility.

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Questions from Kevin Earl. What is

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council's position on the SRLA and

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Filio's agreement being put forward to

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the planning panel through your Mayor?

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The revised controls as agreed to by

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SRLA and Filigo do not not align with

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council's position which seeks the

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entirety of the land to be purchased by

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the SRLA for public open space.

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Next question. Will all present planning

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permits in Box Hill be continued after the

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minister's decision? Will extensions on

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the permits be on the old or new system

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through your Mayor? Extensions of time

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to planning permits are considered

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taking into account legal tests which

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have been applied by VCAP. These include

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a variety of matters including the

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specific circumstances of the permit and

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whether new planning controls are in

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place. It is therefore not possible to

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provide a general response to this

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question. Thank you may

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thank you Jeff. There are no further

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questions. So I'll move on to item eight

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petitions. We have no petitions tonight.

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Item nine, notices of motion. We have

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two notices of motion this evening. Item

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9.1, mandatory glass in brackets, purple

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bin. I seek a move up.

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Move, may

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councelor Langford move. And I seek a

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second.

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I'll second me.

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Councelor Martin seconded. Councelor

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Langford.

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Councilors, you all know that we've been

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recently conducting community

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consultation regarding the introduction

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of mandatory bins, including the glass

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bin, or also known as the purple bin.

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That's how I refer to it in this speech.

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I've attended two pop-up sessions and

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forwarded the Whitehorse City Council

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social media posts to several Facebook

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post  groups, including Sar Hills and

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Mont Albert, the Whitehorse Notice

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Board, and the Burwood and Box Hill

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Community Board, to name a few. Over 500

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members have read these posts, and to my

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surprise, I have not received one

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positive comment on social media

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regarding the inclusion of the purple

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bin. A selection of comments include,

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Craig, it's a no from me. You can keep

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your purple bin. Andrew, they all go

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into landfill anyway.

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Lisa, I just did the survey and it's a

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definite no from me. Leslie, we don't

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have space for a fourth bin. Pat boo to

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the purple bins. And Peter says,

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"Council do not need to waste money on

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this tripe."

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Angela says, "Most households hardly

00:24:25.360 --> 00:24:27.336
have any glass to recycle these bins and

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they're not required." And Dennis says,

00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:32.056
"Glass is already recycled through the

00:24:32.080 --> 00:24:33.736
yellow bins, so why do we need to have

00:24:33.760 --> 00:24:36.296
another one? It's a waste of money." And

00:24:36.320 --> 00:24:38.856
many, many more. Introduction of the

00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:40.936
mandatory purple beans is to comply with

00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:42.535
state government legislation and is

00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:45.559
required by all households in mid 2027.

00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:47.976
If we choose not to introduce these

00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:51.000
bins, there are significant fines. At

00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:52.696
this stage, White City Council is

00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:54.775
planning monthly collections only of the

00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:57.799
new bin and this is at significant cost

00:24:58.159 --> 00:25:00.535
and will impact the rates when the cost

00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.559
of living is hurting our residents.

00:25:04.320 --> 00:25:07.320
Implementation costs as of today are

00:25:07.360 --> 00:25:10.296
estimated at over $4 million for the

00:25:10.320 --> 00:25:12.216
actual implementation and the purchase

00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:15.096
of those assets. And the ongoing annual

00:25:15.120 --> 00:25:16.535
cost would for the once a month

00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:19.559
collection will be around $1.3 million.

00:25:19.919 --> 00:25:22.919
That is a lot of money. Um, and we will

00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:24.936
be we could spend it on other things

00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:27.015
such as community services and assets on

00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:29.015
sporting grounds, pavillions, upgrading

00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:30.616
playgrounds, road maintenance,

00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:32.696
neighborhood houses,

00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:34.376
our Whitehorse art gallery, and

00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:36.056
community services such as positive

00:25:36.080 --> 00:25:37.895
aging and school holiday programs, just

00:25:37.919 --> 00:25:40.919
to name a few off the top of my head.

00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:42.535
You have to wonder why the government is

00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:44.856
pushing for this legislation. As you can

00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:47.880
see, um the amount of glass in curbside

00:25:47.919 --> 00:25:49.816
recycling is actually declining

00:25:49.840 --> 00:25:51.416
according to council officers by around

00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:54.376
3% per year as more and more people use

00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:56.775
the container deposit scheme and glass

00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:59.576
packaging is actually being reduced as

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um people who are actually manufacturing

00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.296
use the the containers that can be

00:26:04.320 --> 00:26:06.056
recycled.

00:26:06.080 --> 00:26:07.655
For those of us who do put those

00:26:07.679 --> 00:26:10.456
containers in our yellow bins, it seems

00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:12.296
that the entrepreneurial persons, many

00:26:12.320 --> 00:26:14.456
entrepreneur persons remove them

00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:16.135
overnight before the trucks come in the

00:26:16.159 --> 00:26:18.135
morning. Certainly, it happens in my

00:26:18.159 --> 00:26:21.096
area in Mont Al in Sar Hills and Mont

00:26:21.120 --> 00:26:23.655
Albert. Additionally, the container

00:26:23.679 --> 00:26:26.296
deposit scheme scheme would be a much

00:26:26.320 --> 00:26:28.616
more effective alternative to the purple

00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:31.096
bins. It would further reduce the use of

00:26:31.120 --> 00:26:33.816
amount the use and the amount of glass

00:26:33.840 --> 00:26:35.655
as proposed in New South Wales and South

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Australia and they're going to commence

00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:39.336
that in 2027. It's a much better

00:26:39.360 --> 00:26:41.816
alternative. I'd also like to note that

00:26:41.840 --> 00:26:44.135
31 other councils do not support the

00:26:44.159 --> 00:26:45.895
introduction of the purple bin. I

00:26:45.919 --> 00:26:47.655
propose that we write to the minister of

00:26:47.679 --> 00:26:49.416
environment and local members of state

00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:52.135
parliament outlining outlining council's

00:26:52.159 --> 00:26:54.856
objection and seeking the abandonment of

00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:56.936
the requirements to provide the glass

00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:59.960
bin as a recycling service. Promote the

00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:01.496
council's decision to object to this

00:27:01.520 --> 00:27:03.816
glass bin recycling service to White

00:27:03.840 --> 00:27:05.496
Horse residents through our website and

00:27:05.520 --> 00:27:08.135
social media media. Councilors, I seek

00:27:08.159 --> 00:27:10.696
your support.

00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:12.216
Council Martin.

00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:13.736
Um, thank you, Mayor. Yeah, look, I

00:27:13.760 --> 00:27:15.096
think it's important the community is

00:27:15.120 --> 00:27:17.496
heard through motions like these. Um, I

00:27:17.520 --> 00:27:19.255
do note this is a major change and

00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:20.535
probably wouldn't have been put forward

00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:22.696
without extensive research into waste

00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:25.496
and the circular economy. Um, that said,

00:27:25.520 --> 00:27:27.015
I think point B is the key point to

00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.096
note. It's important that we get 

00:27:29.120 --> 00:27:31.015
glass recycled in the circular economy

00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:32.535
and and it is through the current

00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:35.255
system. But um, you know, the glass is

00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:37.015
used in construction products and roads

00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:39.895
as an example. But um  nothing more to

00:27:39.919 --> 00:27:41.096
add at this stage, but I think there is

00:27:41.120 --> 00:27:42.696
more work to do here for both state and

00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:44.456
local government. Perhaps it's too late,

00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.135
but at least as a council, we can

00:27:46.159 --> 00:27:48.856
communicate our concerns. Thank you.

00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:50.456
Are there any further speakers to the

00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:53.480
motion? No further speakers. Um I'll

00:27:55.360 --> 00:27:56.936
given that there's been no further

00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:59.015
speakers, I will put the motion to the

00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:02.039
vote. Those in favor

00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:04.696
carried unanimously.

00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.720
Um item 9.2, two business case sky bus.

00:28:08.320 --> 00:28:09.655
I seek a mover up.

00:28:09.679 --> 00:28:10.616
Happy to move. Mayor

00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:13.096
Council Griffith

00:28:13.120 --> 00:28:16.120
and I seek a second.

00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:17.496
I'll take it.

00:28:17.520 --> 00:28:20.216
Council Martin,

00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:21.976
Council Griffith.

00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.000
Hi, Mayor. I'm um it's no surprise that

00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:27.736
I like to focus on the basics, roads,

00:28:27.760 --> 00:28:30.135
freight, rubbish, and other things. But

00:28:30.159 --> 00:28:32.216
this  you might wonder why are we

00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:34.775
talking about Sky Bus? council has a lot

00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.799
of assets that I've um have seen are I

00:28:38.320 --> 00:28:40.936
would describe as poorly utilized or

00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:43.255
could do with um improvements to how we

00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:46.216
think about what maximum utilization of

00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:49.240
our assets would be. It covers a range

00:28:49.840 --> 00:28:51.496
of offices,

00:28:51.520 --> 00:28:54.520
halls and also parking. , a few car

00:28:55.600 --> 00:28:57.976
parks have caught my eye as potential

00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.775
opportunities that have extra capacity

00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.799
to generate income for council so we can

00:29:04.320 --> 00:29:06.936
spend on other things.

00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:09.176
, early in September, I attended the

00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:11.816
Sky Bus launch where the the bus will

00:29:11.840 --> 00:29:13.976
take you from the roof of Box Hill

00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:16.456
Central to the airport via a few other

00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:19.176
places. And I thought to myself, well,

00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.336
am I ever going to use this service? or

00:29:21.360 --> 00:29:23.895
maybe if someone drops me off, I'll drag

00:29:23.919 --> 00:29:26.456
my suitcases upstairs  if the

00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.336
escalators are working and what other

00:29:29.360 --> 00:29:30.936
alternative what are the incentives for

00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.176
me to to do this other than drive myself

00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:35.496
or catch the train into the city at the

00:29:35.520 --> 00:29:37.576
moment and back out.

00:29:37.600 --> 00:29:39.816
So I see this as a first step in

00:29:39.840 --> 00:29:42.535
addressing  trying to shift council's

00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.559
focus onto um new and creative ways of

00:29:45.679 --> 00:29:48.616
um both maximizing utilization of its

00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:51.336
assets and  seeking to do that through

00:29:51.360 --> 00:29:54.360
strategic partnerships with others.

00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.535
There's  when I visit the Harrow

00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:58.616
Street car park, that's the one that um

00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:00.616
I thought of when it came to this. I

00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.096
think there's capacity to perhaps use

00:30:03.120 --> 00:30:06.120
the top few floors for long-term parking

00:30:06.159 --> 00:30:07.895
arrangements that are not currently

00:30:07.919 --> 00:30:10.535
provided um as far as I'm aware in

00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:12.296
Box Hill. So you could leave your car

00:30:12.320 --> 00:30:14.696
there for a long time, hop on the bus.

00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:16.936
That would be one opportunity that

00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:18.856
wouldn't necessarily involve need to

00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.096
involve partnership. other models that

00:30:21.120 --> 00:30:24.120
might involve leasing, licensing, um

00:30:24.320 --> 00:30:27.096
sharing of a space with Sky Bus or some

00:30:27.120 --> 00:30:29.255
partnership that would allow perhaps a

00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.496
perk for them like advertising on the

00:30:31.520 --> 00:30:34.375
car park or a joint arrangement  that

00:30:34.399 --> 00:30:36.696
would see um a positive outcome both for

00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:39.015
council and for the company parent

00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:41.976
company of Sky Bus. So I think there's a

00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:43.176
range of models and that's what I'm

00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.655
seeking council to come and  bring

00:30:45.679 --> 00:30:47.255
back  council officers to come and

00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:48.535
bring back. We're a bit late to the

00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:50.296
party, so the bus is already has an

00:30:50.320 --> 00:30:52.216
established route, but I think we should

00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:54.616
have um been involved in at least the

00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:56.296
conversations of that being set up

00:30:56.320 --> 00:30:58.056
originally to see whether council could

00:30:58.080 --> 00:31:00.456
have benefited. Um but there's no I

00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:02.856
believe there's no harm in  starting

00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:04.616
the conversation with them for the next

00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:07.416
phase  of their services. So, it's

00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:08.856
part of a longerterm vision. You could

00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:11.880
park your car there and perhaps when

00:31:11.919 --> 00:31:13.736
there's a train once there's a train to

00:31:13.760 --> 00:31:16.760
the airport, fingers crossed, um I'll

00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:18.616
still be alive, you could park your car

00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:20.135
there and get on the train and arrive at

00:31:20.159 --> 00:31:22.775
the airport and there would be economic

00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.799
incentive for you to do so.

00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:28.856
 so in summary, this is a rather

00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.336
unusual notice of motion, I'll admit. 

00:31:31.360 --> 00:31:33.496
but we've got to do a better job of 

00:31:33.520 --> 00:31:35.976
utilization of our council assets. And

00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.135
this is  one opportunity that came up

00:31:38.159 --> 00:31:40.135
last month and I see the first step on a

00:31:40.159 --> 00:31:43.159
journey  that I hope  can take 

00:31:43.600 --> 00:31:45.576
the rest of councilors with the rest of

00:31:45.600 --> 00:31:47.495
the council term. Thanks Mayor.

00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.096
Council Martin.

00:31:49.120 --> 00:31:50.856
 thank you councelor Griffith. Nothing

00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:51.895
more to add Mayor.

00:31:51.919 --> 00:31:53.416
Any further speakers to the motion?

00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:53.976
Yes ma'am.

00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:55.015
Councelor Simpson.

00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:56.135
Thank you Mayor and thank you councelor

00:31:56.159 --> 00:31:57.495
Griffiths for bringing this motion to

00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:58.696
the chamber. I do agree with you. is a

00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:00.216
bit unusual but at the same time I think

00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:03.096
you have identified um some significant

00:32:03.120 --> 00:32:04.696
opportunities for behalf on behalf of

00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.416
council um but there is one particular

00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.015
facet of the debate that we also have to

00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:10.135
consider and that is what is going to

00:32:10.159 --> 00:32:12.296
happen in Box Hill  and with the bus

00:32:12.320 --> 00:32:14.696
interchange um due to the SRL of course

00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.696
it's council's position that we get that

00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:18.456
bus interchange off the top of Centro

00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:20.456
where as you rightly point out councelor

00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:21.976
Griffith when those escalators break

00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.816
down it's absolutely horrific to get up

00:32:23.840 --> 00:32:25.816
and down to that interchange so we want

00:32:25.840 --> 00:32:28.840
to facilitate people using um services

00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:31.096
like Sky Bus to get to the airport, we

00:32:31.120 --> 00:32:32.616
absolutely have to think about how they

00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.296
get onto that bus in the first place.

00:32:34.320 --> 00:32:36.936
So, this is another element to consider

00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.856
as  we continue to advocate to the

00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.096
state government for a redesign of the

00:32:41.120 --> 00:32:43.096
Box Box Hill precinct with respect to

00:32:43.120 --> 00:32:45.416
public transport. My personal view is is

00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.096
that maybe we need to think about on

00:32:47.120 --> 00:32:50.120
street um parking or bus services like

00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.375
they have in places like Sydney for

00:32:52.399 --> 00:32:54.936
example. Um and we could there's no

00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:56.856
reason why we shouldn't  factor in

00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:58.456
people catching a bus to the airport. So

00:32:58.480 --> 00:32:59.895
thank you councelor Griffiths and

00:32:59.919 --> 00:33:02.056
councilors I think we should support it.

00:33:02.080 --> 00:33:04.296
Any further speakers to the motion?

00:33:04.320 --> 00:33:05.096
May

00:33:05.120 --> 00:33:06.135
deputy Mayor.

00:33:06.159 --> 00:33:08.775
Um I think this is an excellent motion.

00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:11.799
Um we are always looking at different

00:33:11.840 --> 00:33:13.495
revenue streams and something like this

00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:15.976
is is something very novel and I commend

00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:18.216
this because we do have um with the

00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:21.240
Harrow Street park car park there um we

00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.519
do have not such great  usage of the

00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.336
um car park and I think this if this

00:33:27.360 --> 00:33:29.015
goes somewhere I think this is a really

00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:30.616
excellent idea. So well done councelor

00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.216
Griffith.

00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.240
Any further speakers to the motion?

00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.096
There being none and no one has spoken

00:33:37.120 --> 00:33:39.416
against, I'll put the motion without a

00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.440
right of reply. Those in favor.

00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.655
It's carried unanimously.

00:33:45.679 --> 00:33:48.679
Item 10, council reports.

00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.535
U Mayor, I'd like to move an amendment

00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:56.375
of the order of business to consider

00:33:56.399 --> 00:33:59.176
moving item 104

00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.495
to 10.4.

00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.375
councilors. Um once an agenda according

00:34:04.399 --> 00:34:07.399
to um the um governance rules cause 23

00:34:08.720 --> 00:34:10.375
once an agenda has been sent to

00:34:10.399 --> 00:34:12.696
councilors the order for the business

00:34:12.720 --> 00:34:14.855
may for that council meeting may be

00:34:14.879 --> 00:34:17.416
altered with the consent of council.

00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:20.440
Councelor Langford has moved a a motion

00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:23.800
to alter the agenda. I'll seek a second.

00:34:23.919 --> 00:34:25.176
Happy to second. May

00:34:25.200 --> 00:34:27.655
councelor Simpson  seconded. I'll ask

00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.375
if there's any discussion.

00:34:30.399 --> 00:34:32.776
I'll put the motion for consent to be

00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:34.776
granted to change the order of business

00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.800
to move 10.14 brick works to item 10.4

00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:41.496
and renumber all other reports

00:34:41.520 --> 00:34:44.520
accordingly. Those in favor

00:34:45.839 --> 00:34:48.839
it's  carried unanimously 10.1. Um

00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.679
I'll move to item 10.1 Box Hill City Oval

00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:57.079
Management Options. I seek a mover. May

00:34:57.520 --> 00:34:58.376
May

00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.936
Councelor Thank you councelor Barker for

00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:03.736
calling my name out. Um move councelor

00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:05.896
Barker. I seek a second.

00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:06.856
Mayor

00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.880
Councelor Langford.

00:35:10.160 --> 00:35:11.976
Councelor Barker.

00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:13.575
 thanks very much Mayor and I'd like

00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:15.496
to acknowledge um President White and

00:35:15.520 --> 00:35:17.016
President Sil for their contribution

00:35:17.040 --> 00:35:18.456
tonight when they spoke at the start of

00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:20.696
the me meeting.

00:35:20.720 --> 00:35:23.720
Mayor, this report relates to the future

00:35:24.560 --> 00:35:27.256
management options of what will be a

00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:29.496
redeveloped Box Hill City oval. And I

00:35:29.520 --> 00:35:31.976
like to think it as the Box Hill um oval

00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:34.296
precinct because it is in fact more than

00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.016
just a sporting oval. It's nearly 30,000

00:35:37.040 --> 00:35:39.656
square meters of effectively open space

00:35:39.680 --> 00:35:41.335
cuz it's not just a piece of turf that

00:35:41.359 --> 00:35:43.416
people play on. And what this report

00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.256
seeks to do and the option one that's

00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:48.280
being um recommended by officers is to

00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:51.400
seek to balance both organized sport and

00:35:51.680 --> 00:35:53.736
elite sport which is um you know the the

00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.296
the great greater cricket that Box Hill

00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.320
cricket club play and of course um VFL

00:35:59.359 --> 00:36:02.359
and VFLW football. But of course, we

00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:04.616
know, Mayor, that the future of our city

00:36:04.640 --> 00:36:07.176
isn't just about cricket. And as much as

00:36:07.200 --> 00:36:09.736
um I'm sentimental towards football and

00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:11.176
cricket because I've spent so much time

00:36:11.200 --> 00:36:13.095
at those sorts of clubs, there's no

00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.016
sentimentality about this. This is about

00:36:15.040 --> 00:36:17.575
providing a community asset for people.

00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:19.575
It's going to be useful for generations.

00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.599
as the old precinct um reemerges with a

00:36:24.720 --> 00:36:26.296
real

00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:28.776
um with a with a really vibrant new

00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:30.136
future. And it's a future that's

00:36:30.160 --> 00:36:31.736
slightly different to the one that it's

00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.176
had in the past where it's principally

00:36:33.200 --> 00:36:35.496
been a footy club and a cricket club

00:36:35.520 --> 00:36:38.520
oval. Well, with the $28 million from

00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:40.136
both the federal government and the

00:36:40.160 --> 00:36:41.736
state government and of course council

00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:43.575
that were investing in it, this is going

00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:46.136
to be an incredible community facility.

00:36:46.160 --> 00:36:48.856
And I'd like to just illustrate that for

00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.496
you. may when we think about the use of

00:36:51.520 --> 00:36:53.896
this oval and how we sort to balance it.

00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:55.815
So the old pavillion or the you know the

00:36:55.839 --> 00:36:57.416
big building that the Hawks are in at

00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.016
the moment that will get renovated and

00:36:59.040 --> 00:37:00.536
of course the old one that the cricket

00:37:00.560 --> 00:37:01.815
club are in a moment gets knocked down

00:37:01.839 --> 00:37:04.376
with all those old wooden buildings and

00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:05.896
a whole new things created. We're going

00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.055
to have two buildings that are useful

00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:09.736
and the report says that well the

00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:12.616
cricket club can particularly have um

00:37:12.640 --> 00:37:14.856
seasonal license on the one that they're

00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:16.456
in at the moment that will be renovated

00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:18.296
that you have you know it's got the

00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:19.896
fantastic

00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.776
um balcony that overlooks the oval and

00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:24.696
um it'll have change rooms and umpire's

00:37:24.720 --> 00:37:26.055
rooms downstairs for them over the

00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:28.376
season. And in the the new pavillion,

00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:29.815
we'll have one of the most impressive

00:37:29.839 --> 00:37:32.376
multi-purpose rooms um in the city and

00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:34.136
of course the coaching room, the

00:37:34.160 --> 00:37:35.496
broadcast rooms that we've spoken about

00:37:35.520 --> 00:37:37.335
in the past. It will be available for

00:37:37.359 --> 00:37:39.496
you know music tuition and book club and

00:37:39.520 --> 00:37:40.856
things like that. But I want to take you

00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.880
to an example of um what I think will be

00:37:44.560 --> 00:37:47.560
a typical Sunday in maybe 2027. At 7:00

00:37:47.839 --> 00:37:49.736
a.m. the first yoga classes with 60

00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:51.976
people will roll in and the third class

00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.456
will finish at about 10:00 when maybe

00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:57.335
the barberh shop choir um bump in for

00:37:57.359 --> 00:38:00.136
their performance and high tea and at

00:38:00.160 --> 00:38:02.136
4:00 the Lions Club will bump in for a

00:38:02.160 --> 00:38:04.776
dinner and an awards night. So that

00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:06.696
facility and and of course the cricket

00:38:06.720 --> 00:38:09.335
club can still have the  one of the

00:38:09.359 --> 00:38:11.256
the stats rooms, the scorers room there

00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:12.616
so that they can play their cricket and

00:38:12.640 --> 00:38:14.456
they've still got the thing.

00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:16.936
This facility will have multi modes of

00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:19.656
operations with simultaneity in those

00:38:19.680 --> 00:38:21.896
operations. And why does that matter?

00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:23.656
Well, it matters because we're

00:38:23.680 --> 00:38:26.680
maximizing the use and maximizing value

00:38:26.720 --> 00:38:28.856
from this significant amount of money is

00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:30.536
really important to us. And making sure

00:38:30.560 --> 00:38:33.560
people get the use out of the facility.

00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:36.296
But most importantly, when we bring

00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.320
other new users to this space, there is

00:38:40.560 --> 00:38:43.256
always a symbiosis for our core tenants,

00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:44.536
which are obviously the cricket club and

00:38:44.560 --> 00:38:46.296
the footing club because all of a sudden

00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:48.856
they're going to get on that Sunday

00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:51.335
another sort of 300 people coming

00:38:51.359 --> 00:38:53.335
through the facility, potential

00:38:53.359 --> 00:38:55.656
sponsors, potential supporters, people

00:38:55.680 --> 00:38:58.680
that might want to participate in their

00:38:59.680 --> 00:39:02.616
 canteen on the afternoon. So this is

00:39:02.640 --> 00:39:04.536
both good for the cricket club, good for

00:39:04.560 --> 00:39:06.296
the football club, and most importantly,

00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:07.656
it's good for the community because

00:39:07.680 --> 00:39:10.680
we're seeking to um strike a balance

00:39:11.520 --> 00:39:14.520
between both elite sport and great

00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:17.575
sport, community sport, but also non

00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:19.335
community uses. And I'm particularly

00:39:19.359 --> 00:39:20.856
excited, as you know, Mayor, about

00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:23.880
leveraging the band, which is just over

00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:25.656
sort of in the same precinct on the

00:39:25.680 --> 00:39:27.736
other side of the fence. But um it's

00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:29.256
it's going to be a center of sort of

00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:30.936
music excellence where we can have music

00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.095
tuition and we know small meeting rooms

00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:34.616
is something that our city really looks

00:39:34.640 --> 00:39:36.936
forward to and I think the officers have

00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.335
struck an appropriate response here and

00:39:39.359 --> 00:39:42.216
as you heard from President White um the

00:39:42.240 --> 00:39:43.815
officers have agreed to some minor

00:39:43.839 --> 00:39:46.376
changes to the changing room  setup so

00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:48.696
that there's can be um male and female

00:39:48.720 --> 00:39:51.575
umpires can um shower and change  on

00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:53.256
the same day which of course is very

00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.280
much a feature of modern sport. Um so

00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:57.976
Mayor I recommend it to thank you very

00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:01.000
much. Please support it councilors

00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:04.055
councelor Langford.

00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:05.815
Thank you councelor Barker and thank you

00:40:05.839 --> 00:40:08.536
to those attending Lisa White and Edill

00:40:08.560 --> 00:40:11.560
from both of the two clubs. As we all

00:40:11.680 --> 00:40:13.176
know works have commenced at the Box Hill

00:40:13.200 --> 00:40:15.256
City Oval with the sod turning ceremony

00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:16.936
just a few weeks ago. I think a few of

00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:18.696
us actually managed to get to that and

00:40:18.720 --> 00:40:20.376
the groundwork's already commenced on

00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.016
the oval itself. Following the deferral

00:40:23.040 --> 00:40:25.176
of the Box Hill Oval management options at

00:40:25.200 --> 00:40:26.856
our last council meeting, I attended

00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:29.176
with councelor Alum meetings with the

00:40:29.200 --> 00:40:31.256
council officers and both the Box Hill

00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:33.335
cricket club with Lisa White and the

00:40:33.359 --> 00:40:36.359
Box Hill Hawks football club with Ed Sil.

00:40:36.560 --> 00:40:38.616
It was great to observe directly how the

00:40:38.640 --> 00:40:40.936
clubs wanted to review the submission

00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:43.496
and discuss the some inclusions in not

00:40:43.520 --> 00:40:46.055
to option one to enable the support by

00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:49.016
both clubs. Thank you. In summary, these

00:40:49.040 --> 00:40:50.456
included things such as seasonal

00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.616
allocations to be confirmed annually,

00:40:52.640 --> 00:40:54.456
council understanding that the clubs are

00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:56.136
signing anou on the sharing of

00:40:56.160 --> 00:40:58.376
facilities and that the umpire's room in

00:40:58.400 --> 00:40:59.736
the west pavillion will be seasonally

00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:01.976
allocated and alternate rooms can be

00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:04.616
made up for gym users if required.

00:41:04.640 --> 00:41:06.536
Investigations by council will also

00:41:06.560 --> 00:41:09.016
ensure to see if that the kiosk can be

00:41:09.040 --> 00:41:11.256
operated separately to the kitchen and

00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.416
the cricket club can do important things

00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.256
like hang up their honor boards in the

00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.016
100 square meter social space in the

00:41:17.040 --> 00:41:19.256
southern pavillion. Something that really

00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.280
respects our history and um our culture

00:41:22.720 --> 00:41:25.720
um in clubs such as this.

00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:27.896
There will be other things, but I think

00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:29.656
the big one was um the request by the

00:41:29.680 --> 00:41:31.095
cricket club to deliver those two

00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:33.256
separate shower and toilet spaces in the

00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:35.496
southern pavillion for umpires um both

00:41:35.520 --> 00:41:37.416
male and female. And I'm really happy to

00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:39.575
hear that that's being considered.

00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:41.815
councilors. This will be a magnificent

00:41:41.839 --> 00:41:43.896
facility once finished and will be the

00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.055
envy not only of cricket and football

00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:48.216
clubs across the east but also other

00:41:48.240 --> 00:41:49.976
councils as we deliver a facility that

00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.055
will be utilized by the community for

00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:54.696
many other activities um and enjoyment

00:41:54.720 --> 00:41:57.016
such as described by councelor Barker.

00:41:57.040 --> 00:41:59.016
Councilors I seek your support on for

00:41:59.040 --> 00:42:00.616
option one management model as

00:42:00.640 --> 00:42:03.095
recommended by council officers.

00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:04.696
Are there any further speakers to the

00:42:04.720 --> 00:42:05.736
motion?

00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.496
 yes may I'd like to move an amendment

00:42:07.520 --> 00:42:10.520
please. amendment has been um indicated

00:42:11.680 --> 00:42:14.295
by councelor Simpson. Can you please

00:42:14.319 --> 00:42:17.319
brief  read out the amendment for um

00:42:17.680 --> 00:42:19.976
everyone to sure see please?

00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.136
Point4 it adds a point four note that

00:42:22.160 --> 00:42:23.575
the lodgement of requisite planning

00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:24.936
permissions based on preferred

00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:27.016
management model will occur as soon as

00:42:27.040 --> 00:42:29.815
practically sorry as practable practable

00:42:29.839 --> 00:42:32.536
following the execution of agreements.

00:42:32.560 --> 00:42:34.616
Thank you councelor Simpson. Before I

00:42:34.640 --> 00:42:37.640
move to um a seconder, I'm going to ask

00:42:38.240 --> 00:42:39.976
councelor Barker, is that amendment

00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.376
acceptable to you?

00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:44.616
Yes, it is. May that's superb work from

00:42:44.640 --> 00:42:46.376
councelor Simpson.

00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.295
And I will ask a seconder, council

00:42:48.319 --> 00:42:50.456
Langford, is that amendment acceptable

00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:51.016
to you?

00:42:51.040 --> 00:42:51.656
Yes, it is.

00:42:51.680 --> 00:42:53.896
The amendment is now incorporated into

00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:55.815
the motion. Are there any further

00:42:55.839 --> 00:42:57.016
speakers to the motion?

00:42:57.040 --> 00:42:57.815
 yes, Mayor.

00:42:57.839 --> 00:42:58.936
Councelor Simpson.

00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:00.856
Thank you, Mayor. Um thank you councelor

00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:02.536
Barker and councelor Lenford for

00:43:02.560 --> 00:43:04.376
agreeing to that amendment the reason I

00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:06.376
brought it forward councilors is because

00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.400
as noted in the  report before us. um

00:43:09.839 --> 00:43:11.736
in order for the facilities to be used

00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.055
for other activities that we want to use

00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.016
the facilities for. Um unfortunately 

00:43:17.040 --> 00:43:19.736
planning approval may be required and so

00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.216
the purpose of the um point4 as is now

00:43:22.240 --> 00:43:24.216
incorporated was to begin that process

00:43:24.240 --> 00:43:26.456
now rather than later so that once the

00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:28.456
facilities are built we can kind of hit

00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.216
the ground running. So thank you for the

00:43:30.240 --> 00:43:33.240
incorporation um councilors

00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:34.696
but I'm really happy that we've gotten

00:43:34.720 --> 00:43:35.815
to this place. says, "You know,

00:43:35.839 --> 00:43:37.815
councilors, we we deferred this motion

00:43:37.839 --> 00:43:39.656
last time because we had a major tenant

00:43:39.680 --> 00:43:41.815
of the facilities come to us and request

00:43:41.839 --> 00:43:44.216
it." And the outcome has been in my

00:43:44.240 --> 00:43:46.216
opinion a better a better result because

00:43:46.240 --> 00:43:48.776
we have  engaged we have consulted we

00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:51.256
have discussed um between all parties

00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.656
and come to an arrangement that has seen

00:43:53.680 --> 00:43:55.575
some tweaks to the option that is now

00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:57.335
before us compared to what it was 3

00:43:57.359 --> 00:44:00.359
weeks ago but one that   gets the

00:44:00.720 --> 00:44:02.536
best use out of these facilities for all

00:44:02.560 --> 00:44:04.376
parties involved for council for the

00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:05.736
community and of course for our two

00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.815
major tenant clubs. So, I really do want

00:44:07.839 --> 00:44:09.896
to thank um Box Hill Hawks and Box Hill

00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:11.335
Cricket Club for their engagement on

00:44:11.359 --> 00:44:13.575
this matter. Um and also the council

00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.055
staff of course being  Tim McLadhill

00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.696
and Kyle Chandler and so councilors I

00:44:18.720 --> 00:44:20.055
think we have gone into a really good

00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:21.976
position tonight and so I wholeheartedly

00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.696
endorse the option before us and 

00:44:24.720 --> 00:44:26.696
let's vote for it.

00:44:26.720 --> 00:44:28.536
Any further speakers to the motion?

00:44:28.560 --> 00:44:29.095
Yes, ma'am.

00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:30.055
Councelor G.

00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.136
Thank you, Mayor. Just want to reiterate

00:44:32.160 --> 00:44:34.456
 the presentations from presidents

00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:37.176
Lisa and Ed from earlier this evening.

00:44:37.200 --> 00:44:38.295
Thank you for your contributions

00:44:38.319 --> 00:44:40.136
tonight. Thank you for your involvement

00:44:40.160 --> 00:44:42.536
in consultation that's got us to this

00:44:42.560 --> 00:44:45.256
point this evening. I also want to also

00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.095
thank and it was alluded to in the

00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:48.456
speeches earlier but I also want to

00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:50.696
thank our officers.  we've given a

00:44:50.720 --> 00:44:52.136
direction at this council that we want

00:44:52.160 --> 00:44:54.456
greater utilization of our facilities.

00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:57.256
 what we've seen from  Lisa Letic

00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:59.815
and her staff is we've delivered on that

00:44:59.839 --> 00:45:01.976
in a number of different ways.  I'm

00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:04.055
very impressed earlier in the year with

00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:05.335
the way that they went about the

00:45:05.359 --> 00:45:07.656
tendering for our  learn to swim

00:45:07.680 --> 00:45:10.136
programs and a great outcome there. I

00:45:10.160 --> 00:45:11.815
think what they've done here, Lisa, and

00:45:11.839 --> 00:45:13.416
your staff, you've got a great outcome

00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.335
here as well, which we should have great

00:45:15.359 --> 00:45:16.936
utilization of what will be an amazing

00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:19.176
facility in Box Hill and I just wanted to

00:45:19.200 --> 00:45:20.376
make sure that that gets noticed as

00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:21.416
well. Thank you.

00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.416
Any further speakers to the motion?

00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:24.376
Thank you, Mayor.

00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:25.896
Councelor Stern,

00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:28.136
Mayor, I just like to say I fully

00:45:28.160 --> 00:45:29.896
support this. Obviously, it's a great

00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.136
outcome. It's great all parties come

00:45:32.160 --> 00:45:34.536
together and reach that compromise and

00:45:34.560 --> 00:45:36.376
I'm pleased I could move move the

00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.176
deferral um to allow that to to occur.

00:45:39.200 --> 00:45:41.575
But it does raise the point about um

00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:44.599
such um decisions in the future and the

00:45:45.359 --> 00:45:48.359
fact that maybe we need to include a

00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:51.400
period of consultation um built in to

00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.616
potentially um release these types of

00:45:54.640 --> 00:45:56.456
matters as a draft to the community like

00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:59.256
we do with other plans and allow a

00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:00.776
period of reasonable consultation and

00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.376
then come back to make a final decision.

00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:03.815
Thank you, ma'am.

00:46:03.839 --> 00:46:05.416
Are there any further speakers to the

00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.216
motion? No further speakers. Given that

00:46:08.240 --> 00:46:10.776
no one has um spoken against the motion,

00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:12.856
there won't be a right of reply. I will

00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:15.880
now put the motion. Those in favor,

00:46:17.359 --> 00:46:20.359
it's carried unanimously. Item 10.2,

00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:22.856
emission reduction projects for

00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.256
reallocated carbon offset budget. I seek

00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:26.136
a mover.

00:46:26.160 --> 00:46:28.295
Happy to move an alternate. Mayor,

00:46:28.319 --> 00:46:31.319
an alternate has been um moved by Deputy

00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:35.400
Mayor Cuts. Um

00:46:35.839 --> 00:46:37.656
can you briefly describe what that

00:46:37.680 --> 00:46:39.416
alternative is and then I'll seek a

00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:40.216
second.

00:46:40.240 --> 00:46:42.536
Mr. Mayor,  this has been a matter

00:46:42.560 --> 00:46:45.560
which was discussed 3 weeks ago and um

00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.880
the debate was adjourned to this

00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:53.000
meeting. So it wasn't deferred but it

00:46:53.200 --> 00:46:54.936
was adjourned which is basically the

00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:56.776
same thing but in governance terms it

00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:58.856
was the adjournment was what we had to

00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:01.880
do. So um what what this is about is

00:47:02.160 --> 00:47:04.055
endorsing the proposed list of emission

00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.016
reduction projects for this current year

00:47:07.040 --> 00:47:10.040
as outlined in table one of this report.

00:47:10.240 --> 00:47:12.376
And then also note that the emissions

00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:14.295
reduction plan is being prepared for

00:47:14.319 --> 00:47:17.176
council's consideration to inform future

00:47:17.200 --> 00:47:19.976
emissions reduction projects instead of

00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.456
um agreeing to the what was in table

00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.095
two. So it's to look at a plan being

00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:27.896
reduced and then prioritize um emissions

00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.920
reduction works at sites in midlife not

00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.760
new sites or um older sites and also we

00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:37.976
want high usage and also we want to

00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.136
ensure that gas can be completely

00:47:40.160 --> 00:47:42.055
eliminated from any of the sites. So

00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:44.696
that's what this is um to replace the

00:47:44.720 --> 00:47:47.095
original motion. Mayor,

00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:50.119
thank you. Um,

00:47:51.040 --> 00:47:54.040
so that was a a lengthy um introduction.

00:47:54.720 --> 00:47:57.720
That's okay. I'll I'll move to a who who

00:47:58.240 --> 00:48:00.136
is seconding this alternate

00:48:00.160 --> 00:48:01.016
and second. Mayor

00:48:01.040 --> 00:48:04.040
Council Griffith.

00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.616
Thank you. Um, now, deputy Mayor, back

00:48:06.640 --> 00:48:08.616
to you for your moving speech.

00:48:08.640 --> 00:48:10.456
So, Mayor, we'll make this very quick

00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.480
because I don't plan to re um repeat my

00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.920
five minutes that I spoke last time. So

00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:19.256
if anyone is interested, go to the um

00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:21.335
the live stream on the 22nd of

00:48:21.359 --> 00:48:24.359
September. 1 hour and 34 and 20 seconds

00:48:24.640 --> 00:48:26.776
is where this all starts. So I don't

00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:28.535
plan to repeat that because everyone in

00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:30.936
this chamber was there. You all heard my

00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:33.960
speech. Um but what I will say is that I

00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.095
believe it's better to have some skin in

00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.896
the game. Get the table one  three

00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:41.815
projects which have been outlined in the

00:48:41.839 --> 00:48:44.295
report. get those done for this year to

00:48:44.319 --> 00:48:47.319
um adequately cater for the $240,000

00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:51.480
emission offsets which are from couple

00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.216
of years ago which is what we have to do

00:48:54.240 --> 00:48:56.856
 to aspire to our carbon neutral

00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:59.656
status. And basically what the report is

00:48:59.680 --> 00:49:02.535
here is to say let's do what's in table

00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:05.559
one and then allow um this year to work

00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.456
on our emissions reduction plan so that

00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:12.535
we can look and the reason why it was a

00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:13.976
journ because councelor Simpson brought

00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:15.656
it up and he respectfully disagreed with

00:49:15.680 --> 00:49:17.416
me and that was fine because we can

00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:20.055
argue like that in the chamber. Um but

00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:23.079
it is I believe this one year setting

00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:25.335
this down here will allow us to develop

00:49:25.359 --> 00:49:27.016
the plan for the future and we can look

00:49:27.040 --> 00:49:29.976
at bigger projects with more benefit and

00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:31.575
that was what the whole issue was with

00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:33.016
councelor Simpson's point and I take

00:49:33.040 --> 00:49:35.335
your point but I do believe it is all

00:49:35.359 --> 00:49:37.016
wrapped up in this and it can be done.

00:49:37.040 --> 00:49:40.040
That's all I wish to say Mayor.

00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:42.055
Thank you deputy Mayor councelor

00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:43.335
Griffith.

00:49:43.359 --> 00:49:45.496
 thanks Mayor. I also spoke at the

00:49:45.520 --> 00:49:47.575
last council meeting, but I think just

00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:50.599
to summarize my sentiment here, I'm

00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:53.896
happy that council's spending money on

00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:56.295
reducing its um greenhouse gas

00:49:56.319 --> 00:49:59.319
emissions. Um, I'd be happy to see the

00:49:59.359 --> 00:50:01.416
money spent, money that would have

00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:04.440
otherwise been spent on carbon offsets

00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.256
and projects like geothermal energy in

00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.280
Turkey, other ones in India, China, and

00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:13.575
, one that involved burning ,

00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:16.295
burning of forests in Australia. So, I'm

00:50:16.319 --> 00:50:18.055
happy to see that this will be invested

00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:21.079
locally and addressing our greenhouse

00:50:21.359 --> 00:50:23.896
gas emissions. Thanks, Mayor.

00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:25.496
Are there any further speakers to the

00:50:25.520 --> 00:50:27.256
motion? H yes Mayor

00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:28.055
councelor Simpson

00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:29.656
and there will not be any adjournment

00:50:29.680 --> 00:50:32.680
motion so we can all relax um but 

00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:35.335
council as as councelor cut has already

00:50:35.359 --> 00:50:36.936
alluded to of course last time

00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.016
councilors we did adjourn this and I've

00:50:39.040 --> 00:50:40.776
taken the opportunity in the intervening

00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:42.456
time to have a discussion with our

00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.480
officers and as already outlined by um

00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:48.055
councelor cuts um we really don't know

00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:50.136
the answer to the question what bigger

00:50:50.160 --> 00:50:52.295
projects exist that we could allocate

00:50:52.319 --> 00:50:54.535
this money towards because that

00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:56.856
investigation is currently ongoing as

00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:59.656
part of the emissions reduction plan. So

00:50:59.680 --> 00:51:01.656
when that  plan comes before us

00:51:01.680 --> 00:51:03.095
councilors, we can perhaps make

00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:05.095
decisions about bigger projects that

00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.496
require larger sums of money to help 

00:51:07.520 --> 00:51:09.896
reduce our emissions in the city. Um but

00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:11.815
until such time, I'm satisfied that

00:51:11.839 --> 00:51:13.496
proceeding with the motion before us is

00:51:13.520 --> 00:51:15.656
the right way to go. So I will be um

00:51:15.680 --> 00:51:18.616
voting in favor of it. Um but also I

00:51:18.640 --> 00:51:20.216
just wish to echo councelor Griffith's

00:51:20.240 --> 00:51:21.736
points as well. you know, this is about

00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.295
us making tangible emissions reductions

00:51:24.319 --> 00:51:26.136
in the city rather than relying on

00:51:26.160 --> 00:51:28.856
accounting tricks and therefore um

00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:30.535
councilors I urge you to please support

00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:32.295
this. Thank you.

00:51:32.319 --> 00:51:33.976
Are there any further speakers to the

00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:36.696
motion? There's no further speakers to

00:51:36.720 --> 00:51:39.256
the motion and no one has um spoke

00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:42.136
against um there will not be a right of

00:51:42.160 --> 00:51:44.616
reply and I'll put the motion to the

00:51:44.640 --> 00:51:47.496
vote. Those in favor,

00:51:47.520 --> 00:51:50.520
it's um I'll go through that. Council

00:51:51.520 --> 00:51:54.520
Weller, Councelor Simpson, Councelor

00:51:54.720 --> 00:51:57.256
Gun, Deputy Mayor Cuts, Councelor

00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.976
Davenport, Council Griffith, Council

00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.376
Langford, Councelor Stennet, Councel

00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:05.176
Martin. Against

00:52:05.200 --> 00:52:07.815
Council Barker, I declare the motion

00:52:07.839 --> 00:52:10.839
carried. Item 10.3, Council Weller has

00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:13.176
declared a conflict of interest. I will

00:52:13.200 --> 00:52:15.095
now ask council weller to leave the

00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:18.119
chamber

00:52:31.200 --> 00:52:33.976
10.3 Northeast Link urban design and

00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.295
landscape plan submission for tram road

00:52:36.319 --> 00:52:39.319
to Springville Road. I seek a mover.

00:52:40.240 --> 00:52:42.456
Mayor

00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.480
Councelor Barker move.

00:52:46.160 --> 00:52:49.160
I seek a second.

00:52:49.680 --> 00:52:50.616
Happy to second. Mayor

00:52:50.640 --> 00:52:53.496
Councelor Simpson.

00:52:53.520 --> 00:52:55.256
Council Barker.

00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:57.016
Well, thanks very much, Mayor. But you

00:52:57.040 --> 00:52:59.335
 what's contained in this report is an

00:52:59.359 --> 00:53:01.896
is an overview and um included in the

00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:04.535
attachment is

00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:06.856
council's response to the northeast

00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:09.880
links um UDLP urban design landscape

00:53:10.160 --> 00:53:12.936
package or the their vision of what the

00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:15.416
new and widened eastern freeway part of

00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:17.335
the northeast link will look like. Now

00:53:17.359 --> 00:53:19.815
may this is a massive road project that

00:53:19.839 --> 00:53:22.295
is already undergoing already underway

00:53:22.319 --> 00:53:24.295
and is impacting large parts of Elgar

00:53:24.319 --> 00:53:26.055
Park large parts of Montalbet North

00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:28.776
right up into the small part of  North

00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:31.736
Bowwin that I'm blessed to represent. So

00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:34.216
we know that this um project is going to

00:53:34.240 --> 00:53:35.976
have a significant impact from Station

00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:37.976
Street to Spring Vail Road and we've

00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:41.000
seen a detailed engineering package from

00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:44.119
the Northeast Link and um this is our

00:53:44.319 --> 00:53:45.976
response. Now, this response has been

00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:49.000
led by um Mr. Green's team in particular

00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:52.216
um um Mr. Ilas and Miss McGinness and

00:53:52.240 --> 00:53:54.535
Miss Norton. I want to congratulate them

00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:56.936
on the thoroughess of this because the

00:53:56.960 --> 00:53:58.376
people of Whitehorse should have

00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:01.095
confidence that we have public service

00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:02.376
professionals that work in the

00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:04.295
background that are protecting their

00:54:04.319 --> 00:54:07.319
rights and looking out for them because

00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:10.295
you will you will note in the report

00:54:10.319 --> 00:54:12.616
that we have some significant concerns

00:54:12.640 --> 00:54:14.136
with what the Northeast Link are

00:54:14.160 --> 00:54:15.815
proposing and we have a number of

00:54:15.839 --> 00:54:18.216
significant concerns with the urban

00:54:18.240 --> 00:54:21.240
landscape design presented. Now there's

00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:23.496
a

00:54:23.520 --> 00:54:25.896
a a massive amount of information, but

00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:27.736
very often the details that we're

00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:29.416
getting are not granular. And I'd like

00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:31.016
to take you to a couple of those that

00:54:31.040 --> 00:54:34.040
really concern him there. Iram Road is

00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:37.256
an east west road that runs parallel to

00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.416
the eastern freeway in Box Hill North in

00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:42.216
my ward. Great people along there, all

00:54:42.240 --> 00:54:44.136
of them. But of course, because of their

00:54:44.160 --> 00:54:45.976
proximity to the road, they are going to

00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:48.376
be heavily impacted by the works. and

00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:50.456
we've seen how impactful that's been to

00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:52.535
people on Valdder Avenue and Joselyn

00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:53.976
Street and Bowwin. So, we're

00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:55.656
particularly concerned about that. But

00:54:55.680 --> 00:54:57.496
what concerns us most, Mayor, is there

00:54:57.520 --> 00:54:59.656
hasn't been the granular detail

00:54:59.680 --> 00:55:02.535
provided, for example, on things like

00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:05.559
overshadowing. So, their properties are

00:55:06.240 --> 00:55:09.240
back fa face north, the back backyard

00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:12.055
faces north. So, the height of a a noise

00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:14.456
wall is particularly relevant for their

00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:16.055
solar access. Number of these people

00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:18.216
have got fantastic vegetable gardens.

00:55:18.240 --> 00:55:20.376
They got chooks. They got solar panels.

00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:22.055
But we're only getting limited

00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.456
information about the solar the solar

00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:26.216
shadowing of these properties. And

00:55:26.240 --> 00:55:27.976
that's something that's something that

00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:30.055
we've asked for the Northeast Link to

00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:31.896
provide us with greater detail. So

00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:33.736
there's some other other challenges

00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:35.575
there for us in terms of the way they're

00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:37.335
going to leave the parks. Erin Park, of

00:55:37.359 --> 00:55:40.359
course, is a muchloved offle park um in

00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:43.896
Box Hill North. It's on the other side of

00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:45.416
the freeway because of course that is

00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.440
still um our land but because the

00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:50.856
municipal boundary is the um the creek

00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:52.456
there but that's going to be heavily

00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:54.216
impacted Mayor and we want to understand

00:55:54.240 --> 00:55:56.936
better about how the northeast link is

00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.960
proposing to leave these public open

00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:02.696
spaces better when they're finished. One

00:56:02.720 --> 00:56:04.216
of the other great challenges there is

00:56:04.240 --> 00:56:06.295
because of the nature of the road and

00:56:06.319 --> 00:56:08.376
when you start to understand the detail

00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.400
that Mr. White's m um Mr. Green's team

00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:12.856
have been going through. There are flood

00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:14.376
retaining walls so the creek doesn't

00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:16.456
flood onto the widened freeway. But

00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:18.216
because the freeway will be considerably

00:56:18.240 --> 00:56:20.456
wider, the pedestrian bridge needs to

00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:22.376
move away from here and park which is

00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:23.896
going to be really problematic in terms

00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:26.920
of accessing that important open space

00:56:27.359 --> 00:56:29.095
when it does return. And I note today

00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:32.119
that that's already um been fenced off.

00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:34.775
So there's a number of um concerns that

00:56:34.799 --> 00:56:37.799
we have with what the Northeast Link um

00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:41.896
have publicly put out. We have put

00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:44.775
together a comprehensive response. I

00:56:44.799 --> 00:56:46.216
urge everyone in the community to look

00:56:46.240 --> 00:56:48.616
at it and I'm um I'm really proud of the

00:56:48.640 --> 00:56:50.456
work that um our officers have done on

00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:53.335
this Mayor. They should all be um really

00:56:53.359 --> 00:56:54.616
proud of it because it's some of the

00:56:54.640 --> 00:56:56.055
best quality work that's coming out of

00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:58.136
our organization. Councilors, please

00:56:58.160 --> 00:57:00.216
support it. It's a it's a tough project.

00:57:00.240 --> 00:57:02.216
It's a big project. We're being honest

00:57:02.240 --> 00:57:03.656
with people. We're looking out for our

00:57:03.680 --> 00:57:05.095
rate payers and we're going to be very

00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:07.496
direct with the Northeast Link about our

00:57:07.520 --> 00:57:09.736
feedback and I know that that feedback

00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:12.055
has been listened to because it's we've

00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:14.936
actually improved the project um down at

00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:17.736
Elga Park in the first phase of this.

00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:20.696
Thank you, Mayor Councelor Simpson.

00:57:20.720 --> 00:57:22.055
Um thank you, Mayor, and thank you

00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:25.016
councelor Barka for your very um

00:57:25.040 --> 00:57:27.815
accurate and um comprehensive  framing

00:57:27.839 --> 00:57:30.456
of this debate and councilors. um this

00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:32.376
particular section of the northeast link

00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:34.136
um affects residents in my ward given

00:57:34.160 --> 00:57:36.136
that Cudamandra is bounded by the

00:57:36.160 --> 00:57:37.976
eastern freeway in the north and I

00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:39.656
actually already had a resident contact

00:57:39.680 --> 00:57:42.680
me um even before the agenda came out to

00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.176
the public about the impact the

00:57:45.200 --> 00:57:47.176
northeast link would have on his

00:57:47.200 --> 00:57:49.575
particular area of the city and so

00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:52.535
councilors when we consider the  the

00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:54.376
what officers have put before us I have

00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:56.456
to  one wholeheartedly concur with

00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:58.535
councelor Barka um this is excellent

00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:00.775
work by um all relevant officers

00:58:00.799 --> 00:58:02.535
involved and we should totally support

00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:05.016
this motion. But  for people in my

00:58:05.040 --> 00:58:07.496
ward of particular interest is um the

00:58:07.520 --> 00:58:10.055
impact on the Kunang Trail. Many people

00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:12.775
use that trail for either recreational

00:58:12.799 --> 00:58:14.856
cycling purposes or as a mode of

00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:17.095
transport as they as they basically ride

00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:19.416
alongside the eastern freeway to get

00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:22.136
from home to work or or wherever their

00:58:22.160 --> 00:58:24.535
destination is as well as the actual

00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:26.696
creek itself. um that is an important

00:58:26.720 --> 00:58:28.616
part of Whitehorses and Manningham's

00:58:28.640 --> 00:58:30.535
given um they're on the other side of of

00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:32.535
of the creek as well, but it is an

00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:33.736
important part of our natural

00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:35.095
environment and needs to be managed

00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:37.496
well.  so councilors, I wholeheartedly

00:58:37.520 --> 00:58:39.335
endorse both what councelor Bark has

00:58:39.359 --> 00:58:41.176
said, but also what our officers have

00:58:41.200 --> 00:58:42.535
prepared and I urge you to please

00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:44.136
support the motion. Thank you.

00:58:44.160 --> 00:58:45.815
Are there any further speakers to the

00:58:45.839 --> 00:58:48.456
motion? There being no further speakers

00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:50.295
to the motion and no one has spoken

00:58:50.319 --> 00:58:52.456
against, I will now put the motion.

00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:55.480
Those in favor

00:58:55.520 --> 00:58:57.416
carried unanimously.

00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.440
I will now ask for councelor to be um

00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:03.335
brought back into the chamber. Thank

00:59:03.359 --> 00:59:06.359
you.

00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:18.760
So councilors as we had a procedural

00:59:18.799 --> 00:59:21.256
motion to change the order of the agenda

00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:23.176
I will go with the new numbering. I will

00:59:23.200 --> 00:59:25.815
now go to item 10.4 which was the old

00:59:25.839 --> 00:59:28.839
10.14 property matters fed 14 federation

00:59:31.839 --> 00:59:33.496
um

00:59:33.520 --> 00:59:36.520
 street I think it is box hill brick

00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:38.775
works. I seek a mover.

00:59:38.799 --> 00:59:41.799
May I move? Council Langford

00:59:41.839 --> 00:59:44.839
moved. I seek a second uper.

00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:46.136
Happy to second. May

00:59:46.160 --> 00:59:49.160
council Barker. Council Langford.

00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:51.256
Councilors, it is with great pleasure

00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:53.256
that I move this report regarding 14

00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:55.656
Federation Street, also known as Box Hill

00:59:55.680 --> 00:59:57.416
Brick Works. I would like to thank Vince

00:59:57.440 --> 00:59:59.016
Manelli who spoke earlier on the

00:59:59.040 --> 01:00:01.335
importance to the community of this land

01:00:01.359 --> 01:00:04.216
becoming public open space and also

01:00:04.240 --> 01:00:06.136
acknowledge the many who have come this

01:00:06.160 --> 01:00:09.160
evening to support Greg and Vince and

01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:11.736
this report tonight. I also make

01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:13.656
reference to councelor Allen who along

01:00:13.680 --> 01:00:15.496
with myself promised at council

01:00:15.520 --> 01:00:17.815
elections last year to advocate and

01:00:17.839 --> 01:00:20.535
fight for this land to become parkland.

01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:22.616
Neither neither of us of us have stepped

01:00:22.640 --> 01:00:24.616
back from this position in any public

01:00:24.640 --> 01:00:26.456
forum and whenever there is the

01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:28.696
opportunity to advocate we have

01:00:28.720 --> 01:00:31.095
advocated Box Hill Brick Works as public

01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:34.055
open space. The site is well known to

01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:36.055
locals in neighboring Surrey Hills and

01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:38.616
Montalbet where the ratio of public open

01:00:38.640 --> 01:00:40.775
space per person is one of the lowest in

01:00:40.799 --> 01:00:43.799
the state at 5 m square and 7 m square

01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:46.136
respectively lower than the city of

01:00:46.160 --> 01:00:48.936
Melbourne and indeed the city of London.

01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:51.335
By comparison, the average of White

01:00:51.359 --> 01:00:53.896
Horse to Whitehorse is 36 square meters

01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:56.920
square per person. Many say, why do we

01:00:57.200 --> 01:00:59.335
need Box Hill Brick Works as public open

01:00:59.359 --> 01:01:01.656
space right now? You may well have read

01:01:01.680 --> 01:01:04.535
in the report. There is no current short

01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:07.559
medium turn as in 15 years strategic

01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:10.376
dust justification or need for open

01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:13.400
space on this site. But imagine what

01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:16.856
it's going to be like in 15 years time.

01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:19.335
The cranes will have returned to Box Hill

01:01:19.359 --> 01:01:21.095
and in Whitehorse we will be well on

01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:22.936
the way to more than doubling our

01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:25.335
population or our residences in our city

01:01:25.359 --> 01:01:28.359
adding another 76 and a half thousand

01:01:28.640 --> 01:01:31.640
homes and SRL phase 1 may well be

01:01:32.160 --> 01:01:35.016
finished and Box Hill will be a thriving

01:01:35.040 --> 01:01:37.976
major transport and community hub. In

01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:39.496
addition, we'll have three activity

01:01:39.520 --> 01:01:41.416
centers on the train line to the east of

01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:43.896
Box Hill, Blackburn, Nanawading and

01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:46.216
Mitchum. all with significant increased

01:01:46.240 --> 01:01:48.535
density targets to be announced shortly

01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:50.936
by the state government.

01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:53.575
We are not against densification,

01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:56.295
but with this comes pressure on private

01:01:56.319 --> 01:01:59.319
open space.

01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:01.335
That means that people will be looking

01:02:01.359 --> 01:02:04.216
for places to go and enjoy spaces where

01:02:04.240 --> 01:02:05.976
they can have a picnic with their kids

01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:07.896
or just lie on the grass and look at the

01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:09.656
sky.

01:02:09.680 --> 01:02:11.896
The site is around 7 hectares and it's

01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:13.416
the last piece of significant

01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:16.055
significant open space in Whitehorse

01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:18.775
and it is up to us to preserve all of it

01:02:18.799 --> 01:02:20.775
or as much as possible for future

01:02:20.799 --> 01:02:22.376
generations.

01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:24.376
It should be ne designated as passive

01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:27.256
open space. Remember that most of Sorry

01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:29.656
Park next door is active open space with

01:02:29.680 --> 01:02:32.136
two footy and cricket club ovals, an

01:02:32.160 --> 01:02:34.775
aquatic center and two baseball fields.

01:02:34.799 --> 01:02:37.736
When these areas are in use, there is a

01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:40.376
very limited open passive space left

01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:43.016
next to Sar Park Lake.

01:02:43.040 --> 01:02:44.616
Political and community members are

01:02:44.640 --> 01:02:47.256
calling at all levels in government to

01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:49.496
convert brick work sites to new public

01:02:49.520 --> 01:02:51.656
open space.

01:02:51.680 --> 01:02:54.136
Around 200 extra people have signed the

01:02:54.160 --> 01:02:56.616
petition in the last week  when Vince

01:02:56.640 --> 01:02:59.640
told us that 6,850

01:02:59.680 --> 01:03:01.896
have now signed the change.org petition

01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:03.496
which has been organized by the Box Hill

01:03:03.520 --> 01:03:06.520
Brick Work Park land group. In addition,

01:03:06.640 --> 01:03:08.856
many wander at the wander at the risk to

01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:11.256
build residence on this old landfill

01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:13.095
site. And if you read the report, you'll

01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:15.256
understand those risks.

01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:16.936
Whitehorse City Council will be

01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:18.616
representing its position at the state

01:03:18.640 --> 01:03:20.936
government's standing advisory committee

01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:23.960
hearings this week. We all know that

01:03:24.240 --> 01:03:27.176
whole or part conversion of this land is

01:03:27.200 --> 01:03:28.936
essential to the future livability of

01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:31.736
our city and it offers us a key chance

01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:34.456
to secure future public open space in

01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:37.335
Box Hill and Whitehorse supporting a

01:03:37.359 --> 01:03:39.496
greener and more livable urban

01:03:39.520 --> 01:03:42.376
environment. The recommendations allow

01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:44.136
council to consider for the purchase of

01:03:44.160 --> 01:03:46.775
all or part of the site and deliver

01:03:46.799 --> 01:03:49.799
meaningful community benefit.

01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.456
With that in mind, let's confirm the

01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:55.015
position of the site is that is known as

01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:57.815
14 Federation seat street in this report

01:03:57.839 --> 01:04:00.616
be allocated for public open space and

01:04:00.640 --> 01:04:02.376
commence negotiations with the land

01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:05.015
owner guided by valuations future

01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:07.575
reporting that will ensure well-managed

01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:10.136
long-term solutions that safeguard our

01:04:10.160 --> 01:04:12.295
open space for Box Hills growing

01:04:12.319 --> 01:04:15.319
population. I refer to a little

01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:18.535
little algebra equation I think I'll

01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:20.696
call it that Haley Weller councelor

01:04:20.720 --> 01:04:23.496
Willer and I brainstormed density plus

01:04:23.520 --> 01:04:26.376
open space is equal to livability and we

01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:29.400
spoke about that on the 4th of July

01:04:29.520 --> 01:04:31.736
councilors I commend the recommendation

01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:34.376
of this report I thank the council

01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:36.295
officers for producing it in such a

01:04:36.319 --> 01:04:38.775
short time and under such pressure and

01:04:38.799 --> 01:04:40.055
seek your support for the

01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:42.216
recommendations

01:04:42.240 --> 01:04:44.856
council Barker Yeah.

01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:46.535
Oh, thanks very much, May. And I thank

01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:49.176
um councelor Lenford for for the for the

01:04:49.200 --> 01:04:51.896
excellent um introduction and framing of

01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:53.976
this. This is one of the most important

01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:57.000
matters um that we're considering in

01:04:57.039 --> 01:04:59.896
this term of office. I consider Mayor

01:04:59.920 --> 01:05:02.920
and I'd like to take you and my our

01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:05.976
colleagues may what Edmund Burke said

01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:08.616
about what we owe people as politicians.

01:05:08.640 --> 01:05:10.055
that is that we owe people their

01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:13.079
judgment and that we betray those people

01:05:13.680 --> 01:05:15.815
if we sacrifice our judgment to their

01:05:15.839 --> 01:05:18.839
opinion. Now, we're not I'm not

01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:20.775
supporting this tonight because I think

01:05:20.799 --> 01:05:23.736
it's

01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:26.295
something that's popular. Certainly

01:05:26.319 --> 01:05:29.319
popular opinion, public opinion on this

01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.440
is without question supporting of it.

01:05:32.640 --> 01:05:35.496
But I bring us all back to consider who

01:05:35.520 --> 01:05:36.696
we're accountable. Yes, we're

01:05:36.720 --> 01:05:38.216
accountable to the people that elect us,

01:05:38.240 --> 01:05:39.736
but most importantly, we're accountable

01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:41.335
to improve the lives of people both

01:05:41.359 --> 01:05:43.896
today and in the future. And this is a a

01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:46.376
report that suggests that we're about to

01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:48.456
make take the brave step of saying, you

01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:50.376
know what, we actually care about the

01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:52.295
lives of children that aren't even born

01:05:52.319 --> 01:05:54.775
yet. We care about the lives that

01:05:54.799 --> 01:05:56.295
migrants that are coming to our country

01:05:56.319 --> 01:05:58.936
that will call our great city home.

01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:00.456
We're actually interested in the lives

01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:02.216
and the livability and the quality of

01:06:02.240 --> 01:06:03.575
life for people that are going to move

01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:05.736
to our great city. And again, I'm not

01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:07.496
going to apologize. It may not be

01:06:07.520 --> 01:06:09.095
popular with a lot of people, but

01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:10.696
density in Box Hill is going to be a

01:06:10.720 --> 01:06:13.015
future. It makes sense. All the

01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:15.575
multimode modes of transport, co

01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:17.496
collocating people with health and

01:06:17.520 --> 01:06:19.736
retail and transport. It makes sense. We

01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:22.295
know it's going to happen.

01:06:22.319 --> 01:06:24.775
This will provide the livability that

01:06:24.799 --> 01:06:26.936
Box Hill needs both now and into the

01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:28.936
future. May you only need to look at the

01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:30.535
great cities of the world. London and

01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:33.559
its hide parks or Central Park in

01:06:33.680 --> 01:06:36.136
Manhattan. These are the places that

01:06:36.160 --> 01:06:38.936
make these cities great. And that's what

01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:41.960
this this um opportunity presents us

01:06:42.799 --> 01:06:45.656
today. So councilors, this will this

01:06:45.680 --> 01:06:48.136
have a massive impact today, tomorrow,

01:06:48.160 --> 01:06:50.376
probably not. But I tell you what, it

01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:51.815
will have an impact when we're all long

01:06:51.839 --> 01:06:53.575
gone and just, you know, mossy

01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:55.416
headstones in the Box Hill Cemetery and

01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:57.496
we've been long forgotten. Someone will

01:06:57.520 --> 01:06:58.856
say, "You know what? That was a

01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:00.856
visionary that thought about the lives

01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:02.535
and the livabilities of people that will

01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:04.376
live in densified living." You only need

01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:06.216
to go to Box Hill Gardens on a great day

01:07:06.240 --> 01:07:08.696
after Anzac Day this year. I estimated

01:07:08.720 --> 01:07:10.616
there was like three or 4 thousand

01:07:10.640 --> 01:07:13.095
people using it. And that's only going

01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:14.856
to, you know, if we don't provide this

01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:17.736
new open space, those open spaces, those

01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:19.656
modest open spaces that we've got and as

01:07:19.680 --> 01:07:21.335
well as we present them are going to

01:07:21.359 --> 01:07:24.055
become saturated and frankly Box Hill will

01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:25.896
not be livable. This is an important

01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:27.496
part of ensuring the livability of

01:07:27.520 --> 01:07:29.736
Box Hill and I really hope um

01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:31.176
representatives from both state

01:07:31.200 --> 01:07:32.856
government and the state opposition are

01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:35.496
listening because I think anyone can see

01:07:35.520 --> 01:07:38.520
that providing this sort of um amenity

01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:40.295
to people in the future is going to be

01:07:40.319 --> 01:07:42.535
crucial to the development of Box Hill as

01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:45.256
a major activity center. It unlocks

01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:47.976
Thank youability city.

01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:49.896
I will now ask is there any further

01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:51.575
speakers to the motion?

01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:52.295
Yes, Mayor.

01:07:52.319 --> 01:07:54.136
Councelor Simpson. Thank you, Mayor, and

01:07:54.160 --> 01:07:55.896
thank you, councelor Langford and

01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:58.136
councelor Barker for your commentary so

01:07:58.160 --> 01:07:59.575
far. And I completely agree with you.

01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:02.136
What this is about is about  future

01:08:02.160 --> 01:08:04.216
looking. It's about asking the question

01:08:04.240 --> 01:08:06.456
about what happens not only 5 years from

01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:08.376
now, but 15 years from now, 20 years

01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:10.775
from now, because once that site at

01:08:10.799 --> 01:08:12.856
brick works is developed into housing,

01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:15.256
there's no going back. It's we can't

01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:17.016
just suddenly decide in 15 years, oh

01:08:17.040 --> 01:08:18.616
wait, we should this should be a park

01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:20.135
now and knock everything down because

01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:22.056
it's just not going to happen. So, we do

01:08:22.080 --> 01:08:24.376
have to put our future-looking 

01:08:24.400 --> 01:08:25.896
goggles on. And something that I'm

01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:28.920
concerned about counselors is that

01:08:29.839 --> 01:08:32.376
decisions or desires about this site

01:08:32.400 --> 01:08:35.255
that have previously been discussed

01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:37.335
haven't considered necessarily the

01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:40.359
future livability of Box Hill. So, as

01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:42.215
councilors, you're aware and and then

01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:43.655
members of the public might also be

01:08:43.679 --> 01:08:46.616
aware that there was um an agreed

01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:49.416
proposal  between the SRLA and the

01:08:49.440 --> 01:08:51.096
current owner of that site with respect

01:08:51.120 --> 01:08:54.120
to what to do with this land. And that

01:08:54.480 --> 01:08:57.016
proposal sees the majority of this site

01:08:57.040 --> 01:08:59.016
being turned into housing. um probably

01:08:59.040 --> 01:09:00.936
some lower to medium density, some

01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:03.655
higher density, but basically apartment

01:09:03.679 --> 01:09:06.215
complexes of some description with a

01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:08.536
very  tiny amount being roughly I

01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:11.560
think it's about 10%. Um um being not

01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:15.096
built on under that proposal. And so

01:09:15.120 --> 01:09:16.295
councilors, when we think about the

01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:18.616
future livability of the city, I'd

01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:21.496
really ask these experts who are making

01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:24.376
these um these statements and and what

01:09:24.400 --> 01:09:26.056
assumptions are being baked into their

01:09:26.080 --> 01:09:27.576
models? What are they what are they

01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:29.416
thinking about? Because it's a

01:09:29.440 --> 01:09:31.576
well-known fact that open space per

01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:33.576
capita has been declining in not only

01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:35.416
Whitehorse but all of Melbourne for a

01:09:35.440 --> 01:09:37.255
number of years. And that's the metric

01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:38.695
that actually matters. It's not about

01:09:38.719 --> 01:09:40.856
densification plus open space. It's

01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:43.016
really about densification divided by

01:09:43.040 --> 01:09:44.856
open space. What is the amount per

01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:47.576
person that we can all enjoy? Is there

01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:49.335
enough parkland? Is there enough is

01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:51.815
there enough um sporting capacity? Etc.,

01:09:51.839 --> 01:09:53.896
etc. That's what it really boils down

01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:55.976
to, this per capita figure. And there

01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:57.496
have been multiple experts that have

01:09:57.520 --> 01:09:59.416
looked into this and it's even in the

01:09:59.440 --> 01:10:01.016
eastern region group's plan east

01:10:01.040 --> 01:10:02.616
document and Mayor as you know we're a

01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:05.416
member of the ERG where we need is the

01:10:05.440 --> 01:10:07.336
ERG's desire that we adopt a minimum

01:10:07.360 --> 01:10:09.336
open space provisions of 30 square

01:10:09.360 --> 01:10:12.360
meters um per person. I also note the

01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:14.936
the research has been done by people

01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:17.175
like Dr. Ernest Healey and Dr. Bob Birl

01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:18.776
of the Australian Population Research

01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:21.175
Institute which have looked into this 

01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:23.736
question considerably. So councilors, we

01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:25.576
need to support this motion, but we also

01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:28.600
need to say that 10%, 12%, 15% is not

01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:31.976
enough because what we need to think

01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:35.000
about is the amount of open space per

01:10:35.040 --> 01:10:38.040
person in order to discuss the future

01:10:38.400 --> 01:10:40.936
livability of this city. And then we

01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:42.456
need to then think about what the

01:10:42.480 --> 01:10:44.376
financial impacts of that would be. But

01:10:44.400 --> 01:10:46.056
it seems like other people have other

01:10:46.080 --> 01:10:47.976
ideas about what to do at this site and

01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:49.576
we need to stand up on behalf of our

01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:51.576
residents.

01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:53.175
Are there any further speakers to the

01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:53.496
motion?

01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:54.456
Yes, Mayor.

01:10:54.480 --> 01:10:56.376
Deputy Mayor Cuts.

01:10:56.400 --> 01:10:58.776
Thank you very much, Mayor. Um, look, I

01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:01.800
echo the um sentiments of my colleagues

01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:04.536
who've spoken prior, but I think we've

01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:06.215
got to look at at what we're talking

01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:08.135
about here with the state government in

01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:10.296
terms of their housing targets that that

01:11:10.320 --> 01:11:13.016
Whitehorse is is now expected to

01:11:13.040 --> 01:11:15.576
deliver by 201, which is an additional

01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:17.256
76,500

01:11:17.280 --> 01:11:19.816
dwellings. Now if we go from a base of

01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:22.840
about 74200 that's over 100%

01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:25.976
more dwellings than what we have at the

01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:28.856
moment. Now when we deliver more

01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:31.336
dwellings we need to deliver more open

01:11:31.360 --> 01:11:34.360
space. When we  spoke to our

01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:37.496
communities when we were campaigning

01:11:37.520 --> 01:11:39.655
open space is one of the top things that

01:11:39.679 --> 01:11:42.296
people always talk about. They love we

01:11:42.320 --> 01:11:44.456
love our open space in Whitehorse. We

01:11:44.480 --> 01:11:46.695
appreciate the benefits of open space.

01:11:46.719 --> 01:11:49.496
And I'm talking passive open space here,

01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:52.215
not active open space. So what people

01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:54.376
value are seats

01:11:54.400 --> 01:11:56.695
walking through park areas. They they

01:11:56.719 --> 01:11:59.416
value the greenery in our parks. They

01:11:59.440 --> 01:12:02.440
value the greenery of the grass just and

01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:05.576
and the mental health benefits as well.

01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:07.816
Not only physical walking the dog or

01:12:07.840 --> 01:12:09.496
whatever, but but our community have

01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:11.096
told us that this is really critical.

01:12:11.120 --> 01:12:12.856
It's not just people in Montalbet and

01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:15.256
Sorry Hills who care about this and Box

01:12:15.280 --> 01:12:17.256
Hill in your area. there. People in my

01:12:17.280 --> 01:12:19.336
area, Mitchum and Vermont, we love this.

01:12:19.360 --> 01:12:21.816
We are fortunate out in my area, we have

01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:23.896
much more open space per person.

01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:26.536
Mitchum, it's 36 square meters like the

01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:29.016
average across White compared to five

01:12:29.040 --> 01:12:31.416
and seven in Montalbbert and Sar Hills

01:12:31.440 --> 01:12:33.736
where where council Langford represents.

01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:36.695
So yes, Box Hill, this is not Sar Hills

01:12:36.719 --> 01:12:39.416
or or Montalbbert, but across Ela Road

01:12:39.440 --> 01:12:41.655
that we're talking it's very proximal

01:12:41.679 --> 01:12:43.736
there. So these are some of the things

01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:46.056
we need to be talking about. In my role

01:12:46.080 --> 01:12:47.576
currently as chair of the envi

01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:49.336
environment sustainability reference

01:12:49.360 --> 01:12:51.256
group and I came up through being a

01:12:51.280 --> 01:12:52.776
community member chair of the local

01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:55.416
parkland advisory committee. So I am a

01:12:55.440 --> 01:12:57.736
big supporter of open space big

01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:00.456
supporter of trees. What we need to do

01:13:00.480 --> 01:13:03.256
here with the federation um Box Hill

01:13:03.280 --> 01:13:05.655
Brick Works is is exactly what we've got

01:13:05.679 --> 01:13:08.056
in the recommendation here, which is to

01:13:08.080 --> 01:13:10.456
authorize the CEO and director of city

01:13:10.480 --> 01:13:12.456
development to enter into negotiations

01:13:12.480 --> 01:13:14.616
with the land owner of 14 Federation

01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:16.296
Street. Now, we haven't said that

01:13:16.320 --> 01:13:18.536
before. We haven't made a commitment to

01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:19.976
that before, but that's what we're

01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:21.736
asking here councilors that's what we

01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:24.376
need to do tonight because as councelor

01:13:24.400 --> 01:13:26.296
Barker as councelor Lanford said the

01:13:26.320 --> 01:13:28.776
livability of Box Hill is very important

01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:30.856
because Box Hill is going to be the area

01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:33.256
which is a metropolitan activity center

01:13:33.280 --> 01:13:35.576
the highest densification that we will

01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:37.336
see across the Whitehorse City Council

01:13:37.360 --> 01:13:40.360
area. We know that Mitchum  Nana and

01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:43.016
Blackburn will be going up too but that

01:13:43.040 --> 01:13:44.936
Box Hill is the critical one. We need to

01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:47.175
ensure we have open space for all. Thank

01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:48.776
you, Mayor.

01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:50.456
Are there any further speakers to the

01:13:50.480 --> 01:13:50.856
motion?

01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:51.496
Yes, ma'am.

01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:52.695
Councelor Dennit,

01:13:52.719 --> 01:13:54.856
um I'm speaking in support. Um look,

01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:56.776
those that know the history know that

01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:59.336
about 100 years ago um the council

01:13:59.360 --> 01:14:01.096
actually split into two along Middle

01:14:01.120 --> 01:14:04.120
Road. Um precisely because um the area

01:14:04.480 --> 01:14:06.776
west of Middle Road was was growing so

01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:09.256
quickly compared to the area east and

01:14:09.280 --> 01:14:11.816
that has just continued and Box Hill's

01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:13.496
just going gang buster the last 20

01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:15.976
years. Um and although no one's got any

01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:18.296
money to build now, maybe another

01:14:18.320 --> 01:14:20.056
decade, all of these plans and permits

01:14:20.080 --> 01:14:21.816
that people have and they're sitting on

01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:23.016
um they're just going to go up and up

01:14:23.040 --> 01:14:24.616
and up. And yes, we're going to see some

01:14:24.640 --> 01:14:26.135
more development around Blackburn, none

01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:28.296
of Mitchum, um but nothing like what's

01:14:28.320 --> 01:14:31.016
in Box Hill. And I'm very fortunate to

01:14:31.040 --> 01:14:33.256
live in part of a part of Mitchum um

01:14:33.280 --> 01:14:35.736
that has you know surrounded by open

01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:38.296
space and trees and and the former city

01:14:38.320 --> 01:14:40.616
of Nawading did a great job um in

01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:43.016
maintaining its open space and gardens

01:14:43.040 --> 01:14:44.936
and we're very lucky to have a number of

01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:47.960
um really pretty bushland reserves and

01:14:48.320 --> 01:14:51.320
Box Hill um has some open spaces but the

01:14:52.320 --> 01:14:54.296
the the amount of people that are

01:14:54.320 --> 01:14:57.320
expecting um in Box Hill and surrounds

01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.695
um in that you the next 10, 15, 20

01:15:00.719 --> 01:15:03.719
years. Um, we are talking about a an

01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:07.576
amount of open space that is required

01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:09.976
really to be considered livable. And

01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:12.695
where's that open space coming from? U,

01:15:12.719 --> 01:15:15.256
we've got to look into the future and as

01:15:15.280 --> 01:15:17.576
councelor Barker said, we we're planning

01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:19.976
for people who haven't been even born

01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:23.000
yet. Um, we we need to look um and be

01:15:23.040 --> 01:15:26.040
visionary and to say here's an large

01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:29.496
tract of open space. can't be all

01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:32.520
housing. In fact, here's an opportunity

01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:35.256
for the whole lot to be open space to

01:15:35.280 --> 01:15:37.496
actually support the ongoing growth and

01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:40.135
livability of our suburbs. For too many

01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:43.159
years, I hear people saying, "What's

01:15:43.280 --> 01:15:45.256
wrong with this government and what's

01:15:45.280 --> 01:15:47.336
wrong with governments generally where

01:15:47.360 --> 01:15:49.096
we don't plan well enough for the

01:15:49.120 --> 01:15:52.056
future? We just allow things to happen

01:15:52.080 --> 01:15:53.896
and then think about planning

01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:56.056
retrospectively and we we're forever

01:15:56.080 --> 01:15:58.376
playing catch-up. Here's an opportunity

01:15:58.400 --> 01:16:00.695
to actually think about the future

01:16:00.719 --> 01:16:02.456
livability of our suburbs. It's about

01:16:02.480 --> 01:16:05.096
Melbourne. If we truly want Melbourne to

01:16:05.120 --> 01:16:07.736
be the one of the livable cities in the

01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:10.056
world and continue to be  right next

01:16:10.080 --> 01:16:12.215
to Vienna and other places in the world,

01:16:12.239 --> 01:16:14.376
that's not going to stay that way unless

01:16:14.400 --> 01:16:17.400
we start thinking now about 15, 20, 30

01:16:17.679 --> 01:16:20.215
years down the track. Thank you, Mayor.

01:16:20.239 --> 01:16:21.976
Are there any further speakers to the

01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:23.016
motion?

01:16:23.040 --> 01:16:23.816
Yes, ma'am.

01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:24.936
Councelor Gun.

01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:26.776
Thank you. It was only councelor Stennet

01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:28.616
mentioning Vienna that I had councelor

01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:30.856
Ellen in the back of my head saying he's

01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:32.215
not here this evening but he would

01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:33.496
absolutely want to be talking on this

01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:35.016
matter and he'd be fully in support of

01:16:35.040 --> 01:16:36.616
this. So when we go to the vote later I

01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:38.536
will be putting two hands up Mayor for

01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:40.695
this one.  one in support of councelor

01:16:40.719 --> 01:16:42.936
Ellen who would certainly be in favor.

01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:45.096
 all the speakers before have raised

01:16:45.120 --> 01:16:46.856
excellent points. , one thing that I'd

01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:49.175
like to add to it is that with council

01:16:49.199 --> 01:16:51.096
Simpson and the deputy Mayor, I was at

01:16:51.120 --> 01:16:52.856
the , Blackburn and District Tree

01:16:52.880 --> 01:16:54.936
Preservation Society at the weekend the

01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:57.175
AGM and we had a great speaker from um,

01:16:57.199 --> 01:16:59.256
Greg Moore who's a prominent leading

01:16:59.280 --> 01:17:01.655
academic at Melbourne University. He

01:17:01.679 --> 01:17:04.536
spoke of the 330 and 300 rule when it

01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:07.175
comes to urban planning. U, everyone has

01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:09.016
the right to be able to see three trees

01:17:09.040 --> 01:17:11.096
from their property. Everyone has the

01:17:11.120 --> 01:17:12.936
right or should have the right to 30%

01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:15.175
tree can canopy in their local

01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:18.199
neighborhood and 300 m from your and and

01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:20.536
to live 300 meters from your near

01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:23.560
nearest open space treed green space.

01:17:23.679 --> 01:17:25.256
What this will do is this will provide

01:17:25.280 --> 01:17:27.336
an additional treed green space and the

01:17:27.360 --> 01:17:29.416
people that will live in Box Hill now and

01:17:29.440 --> 01:17:31.816
into the future. I fully support this. I

01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:34.695
think as we mentioned before,  if we

01:17:34.719 --> 01:17:37.256
um jolt our minds back about five years

01:17:37.280 --> 01:17:38.776
where we were locked into our local

01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:40.056
neighborhoods and the love affair that

01:17:40.080 --> 01:17:42.776
we got with our local parks again, um

01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:44.776
everyone loves their local parks and

01:17:44.800 --> 01:17:46.936
this will be an excellent  opportunity

01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:49.816
for people in Box Hill and surrounds um

01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:52.695
once we hopefully, no pressure CEO and

01:17:52.719 --> 01:17:54.695
Jeff  in item two on this one,

01:17:54.719 --> 01:17:56.296
hopefully go into negotiations and and

01:17:56.320 --> 01:17:58.776
and  have some positive outcome here.

01:17:58.800 --> 01:18:00.215
So, I'll be fully in support of this

01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:02.536
one.

01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:04.376
Are there any further speakers to the

01:18:04.400 --> 01:18:07.400
motion? Being no further speakers and no

01:18:08.480 --> 01:18:10.536
counselor has spoken against, it will

01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:12.376
not be a right of reply. I will now put

01:18:12.400 --> 01:18:15.400
the motion. Those in favor,

01:18:15.679 --> 01:18:18.679
it's  carried  unanimously.

01:18:19.280 --> 01:18:22.280
Um item  10.5

01:18:22.800 --> 01:18:25.576
which is um used to be 10.4 for

01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:28.600
principal approval of 2024 to 2025

01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:31.976
annual financial statements and

01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:34.376
performance statements. I seek a mover.

01:18:34.400 --> 01:18:35.655
Happy to move, ma'am.

01:18:35.679 --> 01:18:38.536
Councelor Griffith moved. I seek a

01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:39.416
second.

01:18:39.440 --> 01:18:41.016
Second.

01:18:41.040 --> 01:18:43.816
I see a  the seconder is councelor

01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:45.736
Wella

01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:48.760
and a mover is council Griffith.

01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:53.239
Thanks, Mayor. It's an important um two

01:18:53.360 --> 01:18:55.336
 statutory statements, the financial

01:18:55.360 --> 01:18:57.175
statement and performance statement too.

01:18:57.199 --> 01:19:00.199
They describe the 2425 year. A few

01:19:00.719 --> 01:19:03.719
highlights just to draw out.  income

01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:07.000
at  $257 million of which rates and

01:19:08.400 --> 01:19:11.400
charges were 60 around just under 60%.

01:19:12.400 --> 01:19:15.400
That's up $29 million which sounds very

01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:17.655
good. However, that's largely due to

01:19:17.679 --> 01:19:19.896
timing and recognition of grant income.

01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:22.920
details are in the report. Surplus just

01:19:23.040 --> 01:19:26.040
shy of $29 million.

01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:29.159
 I think what's most noteworthy is

01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:32.199
that describes  council's assets that

01:19:32.719 --> 01:19:35.719
total $4.7 billion.

01:19:36.400 --> 01:19:38.856
And  it's a really significant amount

01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:41.096
of  assets. And in this council

01:19:41.120 --> 01:19:43.256
meeting, we often talk about relatively

01:19:43.280 --> 01:19:45.416
small things in comparison to that, but

01:19:45.440 --> 01:19:47.976
it's important to remember  council's

01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:51.000
role there. I've made a few notes. So,

01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:54.760
notes on notes. One of them was note 9.1

01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:57.256
reserves. Council has um substantial

01:19:57.280 --> 01:19:59.175
reserves that are locked up for specific

01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:01.175
purposes. If I was to make a few

01:20:01.199 --> 01:20:03.256
remarks, I think we need to do a bit

01:20:03.280 --> 01:20:05.496
better at spending them so the community

01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:07.896
can benefit from them.

01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:10.920
 note 6.1, a few accounting standard

01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:13.976
changes have led to some changes there

01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:16.936
in terms of how  the value of land and

01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:18.695
depreciation is calculated. If you're

01:20:18.719 --> 01:20:21.719
interested in the details, note 5.4

01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:23.976
talks about  the consequences of

01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:25.896
enterprise agreement remuneration

01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:27.976
reform. So it speaks to employee

01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:29.896
provision. So if you're interested in

01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:32.456
the inner workings of council in through

01:20:32.480 --> 01:20:34.776
a financial lens, all of that

01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:36.856
information is there for you. The

01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:38.936
statements describe a sound financial

01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:41.960
period for council covering the last end

01:20:42.080 --> 01:20:44.056
of the last council term and the start

01:20:44.080 --> 01:20:47.080
of this one. And what's really shone

01:20:47.440 --> 01:20:48.776
through through the audit and risk

01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:51.256
committee and through council too is um

01:20:51.280 --> 01:20:53.736
a lot of positive feedback from  in

01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:55.655
regard to the chief financial officer

01:20:55.679 --> 01:20:58.056
and the team for putting this together

01:20:58.080 --> 01:21:00.856
and the quality of the work in terms of

01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:02.776
the performance statement. The second

01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:05.256
thing it's also a statutory requirement.

01:21:05.280 --> 01:21:06.856
It covers a range of service

01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:09.096
performance, financial performance,

01:21:09.120 --> 01:21:12.056
sustainability, capacity indicators.

01:21:12.080 --> 01:21:13.896
Worth a look. There's lots in there. I

01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:16.376
won't  speak too much. One thing I

01:21:16.400 --> 01:21:19.400
would pick out from there  two

01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:22.296
numbers. One is the average rate per

01:21:22.320 --> 01:21:25.320
property which is just over $1,500

01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:29.336
and for every rate council spends

01:21:29.360 --> 01:21:31.175
$2,800.

01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:34.056
Now I reckon the average person doesn't

01:21:34.080 --> 01:21:36.456
feel that multiplication effect from

01:21:36.480 --> 01:21:39.175
council. So I think um if there's an

01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:41.736
area for council to focus on is 

01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:44.760
understanding where that um feeling

01:21:45.120 --> 01:21:48.120
difference in feeling from paying 1,500

01:21:48.480 --> 01:21:51.256
per property for a raidable property and

01:21:51.280 --> 01:21:53.976
spending 2,800. How how can we make make

01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:55.976
the community feel that whether it's

01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:59.000
increased  community engagement in

01:21:59.040 --> 01:22:00.776
what council has to offer? That may be

01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:03.800
one one way to achieve that.  details

01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:06.456
in the report. If you enjoy figures as

01:22:06.480 --> 01:22:09.480
 my fellow councelor  auditing risk

01:22:10.080 --> 01:22:12.615
committee  colleague  please have a

01:22:12.639 --> 01:22:15.639
look.

01:22:15.679 --> 01:22:16.856
Council Well,

01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:19.175
thank you Mayor.  this report seeks

01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:22.135
council's in principle approval of the

01:22:22.159 --> 01:22:25.159
2425 annual financial statements and

01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:27.256
performance statement before they are

01:22:27.280 --> 01:22:29.496
forwarded to Vego and included in

01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:32.056
council's annual report as required by

01:22:32.080 --> 01:22:34.776
legislation. These statements have been

01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:37.096
externally audited and no subsequent

01:22:37.120 --> 01:22:39.496
events have occurred since 30 June that

01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:42.056
require disclosure in the annual report.

01:22:42.080 --> 01:22:43.496
I support the actions in the

01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:46.520
recommendation.

01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:48.135
Are there any further speakers to the

01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:48.776
motion? 

01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:49.816
yes, Mayor.

01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:50.856
Councelor Simpson.

01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:52.376
Thank you, Mayor. Um Councelor Griffith

01:22:52.400 --> 01:22:53.736
said he wasn't going to bore us with a

01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:55.336
whole bunch of facts and figures, but

01:22:55.360 --> 01:22:57.816
there was one particular  item in the

01:22:57.840 --> 01:22:59.416
service performant indicators councils

01:22:59.440 --> 01:23:01.336
that caught my eye, and that is our

01:23:01.360 --> 01:23:04.360
waste diversion. So, our our target for

01:23:04.639 --> 01:23:07.639
 2025 was 58% waste getting diverted

01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:10.695
away from landfill, and unfortunately,

01:23:10.719 --> 01:23:13.719
we only hit 54.10%. So, that's a 3.9%

01:23:14.320 --> 01:23:16.776
drop. And um looking at the comments

01:23:16.800 --> 01:23:19.800
associated with it um is because we've

01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:23.016
having less FOGO and garbage is

01:23:23.040 --> 01:23:24.776
increasing in line with  the

01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:27.016
population growth and councilors. What

01:23:27.040 --> 01:23:28.376
this means is that we've got a little

01:23:28.400 --> 01:23:30.056
bit of a problem on our hands because as

01:23:30.080 --> 01:23:32.615
waste service charges continue to  go

01:23:32.639 --> 01:23:35.256
up if we don't get that um volume of

01:23:35.280 --> 01:23:37.736
garbage um redirected away from

01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:39.175
landfill. Obviously, that's going to

01:23:39.199 --> 01:23:41.336
have a long-term impact on our on our

01:23:41.360 --> 01:23:43.016
fiscal position, but also on our rate

01:23:43.040 --> 01:23:44.615
payers as well through the waste service

01:23:44.639 --> 01:23:46.376
charge. So, we really do owe it to our

01:23:46.400 --> 01:23:48.296
residents to do everything we can to try

01:23:48.320 --> 01:23:50.856
to get that figure um of waste

01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:53.416
redirected  to away from landfill back

01:23:53.440 --> 01:23:56.440
up um towards that 58% target mark. And

01:23:56.880 --> 01:23:59.416
that will obviously play in with um our

01:23:59.440 --> 01:24:01.816
bin policy debate that we will no doubt

01:24:01.840 --> 01:24:03.736
have in the  in the near future. So,

01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:04.856
just something for you to keep in the

01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:07.880
the back of your mind, councilors.

01:24:08.560 --> 01:24:10.615
Are there any further speakers to the

01:24:10.639 --> 01:24:13.336
motion? No further speakers. No one has

01:24:13.360 --> 01:24:15.175
spoken against. I will now put the

01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:18.199
motion. Those in favor

01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:22.536
carried unanimously.

01:24:22.560 --> 01:24:25.560
Um item  10.6 which was numbered

01:24:27.120 --> 01:24:29.655
originally as 10.5.

01:24:29.679 --> 01:24:32.679
Whitehorse asset plan 2025 to 2035.

01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:37.976
Council adoption. I seek a move up.

01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:39.336
Move, Mayor.

01:24:39.360 --> 01:24:42.360
Councelor Weller moved. I seek a second

01:24:42.480 --> 01:24:43.336
uper.

01:24:43.360 --> 01:24:44.215
Happy to second.

01:24:44.239 --> 01:24:47.239
Deputy Mayor Cuts.

01:24:49.679 --> 01:24:50.695
Council Well,

01:24:50.719 --> 01:24:53.256
thank you, Mayor. Council is required to

01:24:53.280 --> 01:24:55.976
have a 10-year asset plan as part of the

01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:58.056
integrated strategic planning and

01:24:58.080 --> 01:25:00.936
reporting framework. But assets are so

01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:03.736
much more than just a legislative tick.

01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:05.256
They are critically important to

01:25:05.280 --> 01:25:07.976
council's core function and in fact we

01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:10.376
could not operate or provide services to

01:25:10.400 --> 01:25:12.536
our current community and future

01:25:12.560 --> 01:25:15.560
generations without them. Council is

01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:18.135
responsible for managing assets that we

01:25:18.159 --> 01:25:20.615
own and control which is a large and

01:25:20.639 --> 01:25:23.416
diverse portfolio of buildings, local

01:25:23.440 --> 01:25:26.296
road infrastructure, drainage, plant and

01:25:26.320 --> 01:25:29.320
fleet, IT and open space with a combined

01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:32.760
value of 2 billion. These assets are

01:25:33.120 --> 01:25:35.416
maintained, renewed, or expanded to

01:25:35.440 --> 01:25:37.816
support council's large capital works

01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:40.840
program. Our asset plan aims to ensure

01:25:41.280 --> 01:25:43.256
that council's assets are fit for

01:25:43.280 --> 01:25:46.135
purpose, well used with shared use where

01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:48.856
possible, environmentally and

01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:51.416
financially sustainable in the face of

01:25:51.440 --> 01:25:53.576
challenges from population growth,

01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:56.215
rising service expectations, aging

01:25:56.239 --> 01:25:58.856
infrastructure, financial pressures, and

01:25:58.880 --> 01:26:01.880
climate resilient city impacts. Council

01:26:02.320 --> 01:26:04.615
is also responsible for monitoring our

01:26:04.639 --> 01:26:06.296
asset performance and funding

01:26:06.320 --> 01:26:08.856
requirements while pursuing innovation

01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:11.175
in asset management through all asset

01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:14.056
classes. Such innovation includes a

01:26:14.080 --> 01:26:16.135
commitment to the use of digital systems

01:26:16.159 --> 01:26:19.096
and technology, recognizing the value of

01:26:19.120 --> 01:26:21.336
data, making infrastructure more

01:26:21.360 --> 01:26:23.976
inclusive, and delivering cocreating

01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:26.936
solutions to improve decision making. I

01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:28.936
thank council officers for developing

01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:31.016
this extensive plan and commend its

01:26:31.040 --> 01:26:33.416
adoption to council.

01:26:33.440 --> 01:26:34.695
Deputy Mayor.

01:26:34.719 --> 01:26:36.856
Thank you, Mayor. The asset plan is a

01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:38.776
key component of our integrated

01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:40.376
strategic planning and reporting

01:26:40.400 --> 01:26:43.096
framework and it supports the integrated

01:26:43.120 --> 01:26:46.120
council plan that we've just  accepted

01:26:46.159 --> 01:26:49.159
to council a few months ago 2025 to 29

01:26:49.440 --> 01:26:52.135
by ensuring community assets are fit for

01:26:52.159 --> 01:26:54.695
purpose, financially sustainable and

01:26:54.719 --> 01:26:57.096
aligned with our five key strategic

01:26:57.120 --> 01:27:00.120
directions which are community built,

01:27:00.320 --> 01:27:03.320
economy, natural and governance. The

01:27:03.440 --> 01:27:05.816
plan also supports a connected, healthy,

01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:07.736
and active community by providing

01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:09.736
accessible and shared public spaces,

01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:11.576
making Whitehorse a great place to

01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:14.296
live, work, and play. To ensure we

01:27:14.320 --> 01:27:16.135
continue delivering highquality service

01:27:16.159 --> 01:27:18.215
in this area, we need to manage our

01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:20.856
assets responsibly. And as councelor

01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:23.336
Weller mentioned, population growth,

01:27:23.360 --> 01:27:26.056
growing community expectations, cost

01:27:26.080 --> 01:27:28.615
increases, constrained revenue due to

01:27:28.639 --> 01:27:31.639
rate capping and impacts of climate

01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:34.760
change are all impacting our delivery of

01:27:35.280 --> 01:27:38.135
these services. So what we've done is is

01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:40.376
adopted a well ststructured approach to

01:27:40.400 --> 01:27:42.615
managing these issues so that we can

01:27:42.639 --> 01:27:44.215
meet community needs well into the

01:27:44.239 --> 01:27:46.536
future. And this involves a large

01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:48.456
capital works program as well, which

01:27:48.480 --> 01:27:51.016
balances our significant challenges with

01:27:51.040 --> 01:27:53.256
quality service delivery from our assets

01:27:53.280 --> 01:27:55.496
and the renewal and improvement of

01:27:55.520 --> 01:27:57.175
community facilities and infrastructure

01:27:57.199 --> 01:27:59.336
while ensuring long-term financial and

01:27:59.360 --> 01:28:01.655
environmental sustainability.

01:28:01.679 --> 01:28:03.976
The asset plan outlines our approach to

01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:05.816
managing these assets over the next 10

01:28:05.840 --> 01:28:08.215
years in a way that will deliver on our

01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:11.239
vision, our 2040 vision which was 

01:28:11.520 --> 01:28:13.256
gained through deliberative engagement

01:28:13.280 --> 01:28:15.736
as was this particular plan, one of our

01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.760
key plans. So we're looking at a whole

01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:21.096
lot of decision making principles which

01:28:21.120 --> 01:28:22.936
are outlined in the plan. We're

01:28:22.960 --> 01:28:24.936
committed to closely monitoring our

01:28:24.960 --> 01:28:26.296
asset performance and funding

01:28:26.320 --> 01:28:28.536
requirements while continuing our

01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:30.215
community engagement to ensure

01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:31.896
sustainable delivery of the many

01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:34.456
services our Whitehorse residents rely

01:28:34.480 --> 01:28:36.215
on. Thank you, Mayor.

01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:38.456
Are there any further speakers to the

01:28:38.480 --> 01:28:38.936
motion?

01:28:38.960 --> 01:28:39.736
Yes, Mayor.

01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:40.776
Councelor Simpson.

01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:42.856
Thank you, Mayor. um councilors, what

01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:44.376
there's a couple of things in this asset

01:28:44.400 --> 01:28:46.376
plan that caught my eye and the the

01:28:46.400 --> 01:28:48.695
first is the um adoption of a

01:28:48.719 --> 01:28:51.336
decision-making framework and I'm really

01:28:51.360 --> 01:28:53.256
pleased to see this get incorporated

01:28:53.280 --> 01:28:55.896
into our asset plan um at least the

01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:57.976
first time that I've I've seen um

01:28:58.000 --> 01:28:59.896
because what it what it allows us is a

01:28:59.920 --> 01:29:02.135
framework to  for our officers to

01:29:02.159 --> 01:29:04.135
basically make a decision about whether

01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:05.816
or not an asset gets renewed or not.

01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:07.655
What's its role in the community? Is it

01:29:07.679 --> 01:29:10.679
a a financially  worthwhile investment

01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:12.456
to renew a piece of infrastructure or

01:29:12.480 --> 01:29:14.936
perhaps the the best use is a disposal?

01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:16.856
Um and that wasn't there before. So I'm

01:29:16.880 --> 01:29:18.536
really happy to see that that get that

01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:20.536
has been included in the asset plan that

01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:23.560
is before us tonight. The other thing is

01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:25.655
um I think a little bit more strategic

01:29:25.679 --> 01:29:27.576
and and that's because I think the asset

01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:30.536
plan is calling out  some points that

01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.096
we've kind of discussed not only in the

01:29:33.120 --> 01:29:34.536
debate about brick works a little bit

01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:36.056
earlier but in other debates that we've

01:29:36.080 --> 01:29:38.056
had in this chamber and that's again

01:29:38.080 --> 01:29:39.896
some of the competing tensions in our

01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:41.976
city. So one of the challenges as noted

01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:44.456
in the asset plan in in um chapter 4 is

01:29:44.480 --> 01:29:46.615
the climate resilient city. So being

01:29:46.639 --> 01:29:48.936
able to deal with intensity um and

01:29:48.960 --> 01:29:51.960
increasing um frequency of extreme heat

01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:53.655
 more intense and frequent severe

01:29:53.679 --> 01:29:55.416
weather events and the potential loss of

01:29:55.440 --> 01:29:57.576
biodiversity, local wildlife and plants

01:29:57.600 --> 01:29:59.816
due to habitat loss. And then coupled

01:29:59.840 --> 01:30:01.896
with that is population growth as we

01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:03.736
have more highdensity developments with

01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:05.175
smaller living spaces. The greater

01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:06.615
demand will be placed on council

01:30:06.639 --> 01:30:09.096
buildings and our open space for social

01:30:09.120 --> 01:30:10.536
or public open space for social

01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:13.096
recreation and the creation of smaller

01:30:13.120 --> 01:30:14.776
household yards and more density will

01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:16.296
place further demand on these same

01:30:16.320 --> 01:30:18.376
spaces as well, especially sporting

01:30:18.400 --> 01:30:19.896
grounds for organized sport. And that

01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:21.736
makes sense. If you lose your backyard,

01:30:21.760 --> 01:30:23.655
you can't kick a footy there anymore.

01:30:23.679 --> 01:30:25.016
So, you've got to go down to the local

01:30:25.040 --> 01:30:27.016
park. So, this comes back to the point

01:30:27.040 --> 01:30:29.816
that was made during the the item on

01:30:29.840 --> 01:30:31.576
Brick Works. It's really about open

01:30:31.600 --> 01:30:33.976
space per capita. It's about what

01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:36.856
individuals um how much open space does

01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:39.416
do do individuals have in our city? And

01:30:39.440 --> 01:30:42.440
I see I see these um these contentions

01:30:42.639 --> 01:30:45.639
in our asset plan before us. And I think

01:30:46.080 --> 01:30:47.736
that point that provides a challenge for

01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:49.336
us councilors to think about how we

01:30:49.360 --> 01:30:51.816
manage these tensions going forward. Um

01:30:51.840 --> 01:30:53.496
not just within the asset plan but other

01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:55.736
plans and other policies that we have as

01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:58.760
council. Um because if we again if we

01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:01.976
chop down some trees to  to build some

01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:04.856
houses then  you know those trees

01:31:04.880 --> 01:31:06.695
aren't there to provide carbon um

01:31:06.719 --> 01:31:08.856
sequestration. So of course the urban

01:31:08.880 --> 01:31:11.096
heat island effect birds can't sit in it

01:31:11.120 --> 01:31:14.056
biodiversity etc etc. So again these are

01:31:14.080 --> 01:31:15.496
real challenges councilors that we need

01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:17.096
to think about. So I commend the asset

01:31:17.120 --> 01:31:19.976
plan to us but again some items just to

01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:22.936
sit in the back of your brain.

01:31:22.960 --> 01:31:24.615
Are there any further speakers to the

01:31:24.639 --> 01:31:27.096
motion? There being no further speakers

01:31:27.120 --> 01:31:29.016
and there's been no speakers against,

01:31:29.040 --> 01:31:31.016
there will no not be a right of reply

01:31:31.040 --> 01:31:33.016
and I will now put the motion. Those in

01:31:33.040 --> 01:31:35.576
favor

01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:37.816
carried unanimously.

01:31:37.840 --> 01:31:40.840
Um item 10.7 which was published as 10.6

01:31:42.719 --> 01:31:45.719
adoption of 2025 to 2035 financial plan.

01:31:47.679 --> 01:31:49.336
I seek a mover.

01:31:49.360 --> 01:31:52.360
Yes. Council Martin. I seek a second.

01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:54.615
Happy to second. Mayor

01:31:54.639 --> 01:31:56.695
Councelor Simpson.

01:31:56.719 --> 01:31:58.056
Council Martin.

01:31:58.080 --> 01:31:59.655
Thank you, Mayor. Um I'm pleased

01:31:59.679 --> 01:32:01.175
presenting this recommendation to

01:32:01.199 --> 01:32:02.856
council tonight, which is the adoption

01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:05.880
of the 2025 to 2035 financial plan. Um

01:32:07.120 --> 01:32:08.776
the 10-year financial plan is aligned

01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:11.096
with the integrated council plan. Um

01:32:11.120 --> 01:32:12.456
which I've got a copy here, good

01:32:12.480 --> 01:32:14.615
reading, and other strategic plans for

01:32:14.639 --> 01:32:17.576
the next 10 financial years. 

01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:19.496
council's required to take an integrated

01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:21.816
approach to formulating this plan. So,

01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:23.576
thank you councelor Weller and councelor

01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:25.175
cuts for the description of the asset

01:32:25.199 --> 01:32:28.199
plan. Ditto to many of your points. Um

01:32:28.560 --> 01:32:29.896
as required under the local government

01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:32.135
act, the 10-year financial plan revolves

01:32:32.159 --> 01:32:34.536
around financial sustainability enabling

01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:36.776
council to deliver its core services and

01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:38.856
importantly on the capital projects both

01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:41.016
large and small that are required to

01:32:41.040 --> 01:32:43.736
service our growing city and population.

01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:46.760
Or put simply, council

01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:48.456
not going through a financial lens but

01:32:48.480 --> 01:32:50.056
looking at the real sort of how we how

01:32:50.080 --> 01:32:52.215
we do it. Put simply, council is

01:32:52.239 --> 01:32:53.655
communicating how we're going to fund

01:32:53.679 --> 01:32:56.679
the activities of council  based on

01:32:56.800 --> 01:32:58.456
our strategic direction which is driven

01:32:58.480 --> 01:33:00.856
by community engagement. Ultimately,

01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:02.695
council is managing livability in our

01:33:02.719 --> 01:33:05.336
community whilst facing challenges like

01:33:05.360 --> 01:33:07.256
the population projections and housing

01:33:07.280 --> 01:33:10.135
targets for our community. Local

01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:11.655
government is not immune to financial

01:33:11.679 --> 01:33:13.496
pressures facing or which face other

01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:14.615
levels of government and of course

01:33:14.639 --> 01:33:16.215
everyday households and families who

01:33:16.239 --> 01:33:18.536
live in our community. Financial

01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:20.376
pressures constrained by the rate cap

01:33:20.400 --> 01:33:22.296
and can in tandem with increasing costs

01:33:22.320 --> 01:33:24.135
for council's core services and

01:33:24.159 --> 01:33:27.016
longerterm asset renewal.

01:33:27.040 --> 01:33:28.856
Key impacts on the 10-year plan are

01:33:28.880 --> 01:33:30.856
changing demographics and population

01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:33.496
growth, economic forecasts and events,

01:33:33.520 --> 01:33:36.056
the rate cap policy, big build projects

01:33:36.080 --> 01:33:37.655
and policies surrounding waste and

01:33:37.679 --> 01:33:39.736
recycling. Also other things that we see

01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:41.736
like cost shifting also impact this

01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:43.896
plan.

01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:45.816
It's extremely important to recognize

01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:47.336
input from the community in the

01:33:47.360 --> 01:33:49.496
development of this plan. For me, I see

01:33:49.520 --> 01:33:51.496
this engagement of the community in two

01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:54.215
main ways. Firstly, as an elected

01:33:54.239 --> 01:33:55.816
counselors, we've all been able to

01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:57.336
connect to our local communities being

01:33:57.360 --> 01:33:59.416
elected and it is important we deliver

01:33:59.440 --> 01:34:01.736
for our communities. Secondly, the

01:34:01.760 --> 01:34:03.496
committee has very mechanism various

01:34:03.520 --> 01:34:05.816
mechanisms to contribute to this plan

01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:08.215
and its outcomes including the 2024

01:34:08.239 --> 01:34:10.135
shaping white house community engagement

01:34:10.159 --> 01:34:13.159
process. This process had two methods to

01:34:13.280 --> 01:34:15.816
engage  including including broad

01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:17.896
community engagement and a community

01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:20.215
panel.

01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:22.456
 I do note one of the aims  I do

01:34:22.480 --> 01:34:23.816
note one of the aims of the financial

01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:25.655
plan is to increase council's commitment

01:34:25.679 --> 01:34:27.896
to sustainable asset renewal and of

01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:30.856
course maintenance of existing assets.

01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:32.536
It's important to note that this plan is

01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:34.456
renewed annually. So we we're going this

01:34:34.480 --> 01:34:37.096
enables council to  respond to

01:34:37.120 --> 01:34:38.856
changing economic conditions and

01:34:38.880 --> 01:34:40.695
community priorities outlined as

01:34:40.719 --> 01:34:43.416
outlined in this report.

01:34:43.440 --> 01:34:44.936
I think it's also worth noting at the

01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:47.096
moment white city council is a council

01:34:47.120 --> 01:34:48.776
that at this stage does not carry any

01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:50.695
debt.

01:34:50.719 --> 01:34:52.695
As anyway as outlined in the report

01:34:52.719 --> 01:34:53.976
there were two options were considered

01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:56.215
being being constrained operating versus

01:34:56.239 --> 01:34:58.776
a a moderate growth option. Details are

01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:00.856
in the report, but key components were

01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:03.416
to maintain an unrestricted cash balance

01:35:03.440 --> 01:35:06.056
of 50 million escalated annually

01:35:06.080 --> 01:35:07.896
enabling council to meet short-term

01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:10.615
obligations without utilizing debt and

01:35:10.639 --> 01:35:12.456
supporting our long-term financial

01:35:12.480 --> 01:35:14.296
sustainability.

01:35:14.320 --> 01:35:16.536
This unrestricted cash was in was

01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:18.135
especially important during the co

01:35:18.159 --> 01:35:20.215
period and protects council against

01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:22.056
other events which may be present

01:35:22.080 --> 01:35:25.016
presented in the future.

01:35:25.040 --> 01:35:28.040
Um, I would I could say plenty more. Um,

01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:30.936
but , in conclusion, I do have some

01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:32.776
, concerns with long-term funding for

01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:34.376
local governments in Victoria. From an

01:35:34.400 --> 01:35:35.976
upper level, we have , constrained

01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:38.615
funding from rates linked to the CPI.

01:35:38.639 --> 01:35:40.376
Yet, the cost base for council is not

01:35:40.400 --> 01:35:43.336
necessarily linked to the CPI. Um,

01:35:43.360 --> 01:35:45.976
secondly, many large existing council

01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:47.736
assets are requiring large invest

01:35:47.760 --> 01:35:49.336
investments to meet modern building

01:35:49.360 --> 01:35:52.135
codes and changes in demand.

01:35:52.159 --> 01:35:54.215
Um thirdly, councils like Whitehorse

01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:55.736
are pivoting and responding to large

01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:57.655
population increases and future

01:35:57.679 --> 01:36:00.135
population projections.

01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:01.896
I think Whitehorse as a council is

01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:03.416
positioned well, but we do have many

01:36:03.440 --> 01:36:05.336
challenges and we will need to work hard

01:36:05.360 --> 01:36:07.416
to maintain our strong found financial

01:36:07.440 --> 01:36:10.440
position. Thank you,

01:36:10.480 --> 01:36:11.976
Councelor Simpson.

01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:12.936
Thank you, Mayor, and thank you,

01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:15.496
Councelor Martin, for um digging into

01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:16.856
what can actually probably be a little

01:36:16.880 --> 01:36:19.416
bit of a dry topic. So, great job. Um,

01:36:19.440 --> 01:36:20.776
as you've already outlined, there are

01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:22.615
two options before us counselors in the

01:36:22.639 --> 01:36:24.776
report. Um, and the recommended option

01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:26.856
is the moderate moderate growth option.

01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:28.215
And I do want to recognize that there

01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:29.576
are some people in the community that

01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:31.655
perhaps might not be in favor of this

01:36:31.679 --> 01:36:33.496
particular option, they would perhaps

01:36:33.520 --> 01:36:35.896
prefer us to look at how we can continue

01:36:35.920 --> 01:36:38.920
to um cut costs. Um but I think councils

01:36:39.360 --> 01:36:41.016
on the whole when we look at the

01:36:41.040 --> 01:36:42.456
feedback that we're getting from the

01:36:42.480 --> 01:36:44.776
community through platforms like shaping

01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:46.856
Whitehorse and your say surveys and

01:36:46.880 --> 01:36:49.416
other other mechanisms we are seeing a

01:36:49.440 --> 01:36:51.416
consistent theme about what um the

01:36:51.440 --> 01:36:53.655
community expects from us and in order

01:36:53.679 --> 01:36:55.896
to deliver on those expectations we need

01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:57.655
to have a sound financial position and

01:36:57.679 --> 01:36:59.576
so the recommendation that has been

01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:01.496
brought to us by the officers regarding

01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:04.456
a moderate growth plan I think is the

01:37:04.480 --> 01:37:07.095
responsible one um as already outlined

01:37:07.119 --> 01:37:09.256
by council Martin. This will enable us

01:37:09.280 --> 01:37:11.816
to have um an unrestricted cash balance

01:37:11.840 --> 01:37:14.840
of about $50 million. So a mojo fund for

01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:16.376
those that are familiar with the

01:37:16.400 --> 01:37:18.695
barefoot investor.  and that will

01:37:18.719 --> 01:37:21.336
allow us to respond to unforeseen

01:37:21.360 --> 01:37:23.496
emergencies. And of course during co as

01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:26.520
we know councilors um council lost or

01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:29.095
had to suddenly find $20 million. So if

01:37:29.119 --> 01:37:31.736
we're ever put in that position again um

01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:33.175
you know we know that if we've got some

01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:34.856
money in the bank that we can fall back

01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:36.615
on that without as councelor Martin said

01:37:36.639 --> 01:37:38.695
resorting to debt or um other

01:37:38.719 --> 01:37:41.095
mechanisms. So on the whole councilors I

01:37:41.119 --> 01:37:43.655
think um discussing these options with

01:37:43.679 --> 01:37:45.496
our with our officers this is the

01:37:45.520 --> 01:37:47.496
responsible position to take and I urge

01:37:47.520 --> 01:37:49.816
you to please support the motion.

01:37:49.840 --> 01:37:51.496
Are there any further speakers to the

01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:54.215
motion? There being no further speakers

01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:55.896
to the motion and no one has spoken

01:37:55.920 --> 01:37:57.655
against, I will now put the motion

01:37:57.679 --> 01:38:00.679
without right of reply. Those in favor?

01:38:01.920 --> 01:38:04.695
It's carried unanimously.

01:38:04.719 --> 01:38:06.856
Item 10.8,

01:38:06.880 --> 01:38:09.655
which was numbered 10.7, amended road

01:38:09.679 --> 01:38:11.976
management plan. I seek a mover.

01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:15.000
Mayor, I'd like to move.

01:38:15.040 --> 01:38:17.496
Um, Council Langford has moved. I seek a

01:38:17.520 --> 01:38:20.520
second.

01:38:22.880 --> 01:38:25.880
, no second. Then a motion lapses. Um,

01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:29.000
I'll re ask again. I'll re ask again.

01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:31.095
Um,

01:38:31.119 --> 01:38:34.119
, if there is a, um, I'll ask if there

01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:37.896
is another mover before I move on.

01:38:37.920 --> 01:38:40.920
Normally, I'd just move on, but

01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:42.135
Apologies, Mayor. I think there was some

01:38:42.159 --> 01:38:44.776
confusion.

01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:47.576
Okay. So,

01:38:47.600 --> 01:38:49.175
there's confusion because of the

01:38:49.199 --> 01:38:51.655
renumbering. Fair enough. I I'll now

01:38:51.679 --> 01:38:54.679
reread the agenda item again. It's item

01:38:55.920 --> 01:38:58.920
10.8. And in the printed agenda, it's

01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:02.520
10.7, but we renumbered amended road

01:39:03.280 --> 01:39:05.496
management plan. I seek a mover.

01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:06.615
Mayor, I'd like to move with an

01:39:06.639 --> 01:39:07.816
amendment.

01:39:07.840 --> 01:39:10.840
Um, Council Langford has moved with an

01:39:11.199 --> 01:39:13.416
amendment. Before I ask for a second,

01:39:13.440 --> 01:39:16.440
can I please ask you to briefly explain

01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:20.056
that amendment or the

01:39:20.080 --> 01:39:23.016
the briefly the changes referenced in

01:39:23.040 --> 01:39:26.040
the document to the vertical um footpath

01:39:26.400 --> 01:39:27.736
footpath vertical displacement

01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:29.896
intervention levels um that we take them

01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:32.920
down from 20 mm down to 15 mm which is

01:39:33.119 --> 01:39:35.976
our current level and also change

01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:37.736
references in the document relating to

01:39:37.760 --> 01:39:39.175
the curb and channel vertical

01:39:39.199 --> 01:39:41.416
displacement intervention

01:39:41.440 --> 01:39:44.440
from 75 mm to 50 mm. There's also some

01:39:45.040 --> 01:39:46.936
change references to the repair time

01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:49.655
frames for foot paths where the defects

01:39:49.679 --> 01:39:52.135
out are outside the intervention levels

01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:53.736
as detailed on the screen. Would you

01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:54.856
like me to take you through those as

01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:55.095
well?

01:39:55.119 --> 01:39:58.119
 no, I think that's fine. Um it's the

01:39:58.400 --> 01:40:01.175
introductions enough I think. Thank you.

01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:04.199
I will now um ask for a second.

01:40:04.639 --> 01:40:05.416
Happy second m.

01:40:05.440 --> 01:40:08.440
Councelor Simpson. Council Lford.

01:40:08.639 --> 01:40:11.639
 over the last few weeks um and even

01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:13.416
currently we're having a community

01:40:13.440 --> 01:40:16.440
safety survey um out in the community

01:40:16.719 --> 01:40:19.719
and what we're hearing not just about

01:40:20.400 --> 01:40:23.400
things like um people having their homes

01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:27.159
burgled or their cars thieved but people

01:40:27.440 --> 01:40:29.736
aren't feeling safe when they walk out

01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:31.416
on their foot paths and their roads

01:40:31.440 --> 01:40:33.816
because many are fearful of falling over

01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:36.456
and injuring themselves.

01:40:36.480 --> 01:40:38.695
It's really important that everyone

01:40:38.719 --> 01:40:41.719
feels safe in their surroundings,

01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:44.376
particularly people who are disabled or

01:40:44.400 --> 01:40:47.095
people who are elderly. And when you

01:40:47.119 --> 01:40:49.976
think about vertical lift, it's very

01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:51.816
easy for someone who's got a bit of a

01:40:51.840 --> 01:40:54.840
hip injury or  to actually trip. And

01:40:54.960 --> 01:40:56.856
there was actually a gentleman in Mont

01:40:56.880 --> 01:40:59.655
Albert who just before Christmas was

01:40:59.679 --> 01:41:02.679
walking along and tumbled over and um

01:41:03.119 --> 01:41:05.736
cracked his knee patella. And I then did

01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:07.896
a snaps in solve and got that fixed up

01:41:07.920 --> 01:41:09.896
very quickly. But it was just

01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:11.655
unfortunate because that lift on that

01:41:11.679 --> 01:41:14.135
path was over 15 mm. And I think it

01:41:14.159 --> 01:41:17.159
shows that if we move from 15 mm to 20

01:41:17.280 --> 01:41:20.215
mm, it's actually meaning that people

01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:22.215
are going to no longer feel as safe as

01:41:22.239 --> 01:41:24.376
they currently do when they go out and

01:41:24.400 --> 01:41:25.976
walk on their foot paths or walk on

01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:28.376
their roads. I think it's really

01:41:28.400 --> 01:41:30.695
important that we actually provide

01:41:30.719 --> 01:41:33.496
access and live and and livability for

01:41:33.520 --> 01:41:35.256
all in their surroundings when they

01:41:35.280 --> 01:41:37.416
actually go out. And now as we encourage

01:41:37.440 --> 01:41:40.440
more and more people to be within 20

01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:43.560
minutes walking um destination of their

01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:46.456
own home and not using their cars, we

01:41:46.480 --> 01:41:48.456
have to make it safe for them from this

01:41:48.480 --> 01:41:50.296
perspective.

01:41:50.320 --> 01:41:53.320
So I urge you all to support these

01:41:53.360 --> 01:41:55.175
changes in particular those two

01:41:55.199 --> 01:41:57.336
displacements that I mentioned before

01:41:57.360 --> 01:41:59.736
taking um the intervention level from 20

01:41:59.760 --> 01:42:02.760
mm back to 15 mm and the 75 mill to 50

01:42:04.400 --> 01:42:06.695
mm for channel displacement. So the

01:42:06.719 --> 01:42:09.719
first one was for foot paths. We also um

01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:13.000
look at the um the defect intervention

01:42:13.040 --> 01:42:15.496
levels and have three categories for all

01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:18.296
of the identified um defects. And these

01:42:18.320 --> 01:42:20.456
levels will mean that they are actually

01:42:20.480 --> 01:42:22.215
addressed in an appropriate time, not

01:42:22.239 --> 01:42:25.095
just left for up to 12 months. And if

01:42:25.119 --> 01:42:27.016
there's something that is greater than

01:42:27.040 --> 01:42:29.496
40 mm on the footpath, that'll be fixed

01:42:29.520 --> 01:42:32.135
within five working days. So people

01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:35.159
won't actually tumble. And I do refer to

01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:37.256
an incident that happened with myself

01:42:37.280 --> 01:42:39.416
and um councelor Davenport or Mayor

01:42:39.440 --> 01:42:42.135
Davenport and councelor Simpson in 

01:42:42.159 --> 01:42:44.776
Canra where we were walking alone along

01:42:44.800 --> 01:42:47.800
um at the um the um Municipal

01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:51.655
Association of Australia conference and

01:42:51.679 --> 01:42:53.416
we're walking to it rather than catching

01:42:53.440 --> 01:42:56.056
a cab and I actually nearly fell over

01:42:56.080 --> 01:42:57.816
and I thought I was going to tumble and

01:42:57.840 --> 01:42:59.175
it was because there was a displacement

01:42:59.199 --> 01:43:01.016
of more than 15 millimeters in the path

01:43:01.040 --> 01:43:02.456
because we went back and measured it.

01:43:02.480 --> 01:43:05.480
So,  that that was something that also

01:43:06.080 --> 01:43:07.736
personally I don't really want to fall

01:43:07.760 --> 01:43:10.760
over like anybody. So, I think the other

01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:13.416
things is considering the um budget that

01:43:13.440 --> 01:43:16.135
that additional expenditure of  20

01:43:16.159 --> 01:43:19.159
$250,000 for the 2526 budget is included

01:43:20.239 --> 01:43:21.576
so that we can have the additional

01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:23.416
resources required to respond to the

01:43:23.440 --> 01:43:25.416
road management plan as detailed in the

01:43:25.440 --> 01:43:28.440
report. Um councilors, I recommend this

01:43:29.119 --> 01:43:31.576
report with these amendments. Thank you,

01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:32.776
councelor Simpson.

01:43:32.800 --> 01:43:34.056
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, councelor

01:43:34.080 --> 01:43:36.776
Langford. Um, so as the name of the item

01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:38.215
suggests, it's a road management plan

01:43:38.239 --> 01:43:39.896
and that is because council is a road

01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:41.256
management authority under the road

01:43:41.280 --> 01:43:44.135
management act 2024. And what this plan

01:43:44.159 --> 01:43:46.536
does is prescribe the role of us as an

01:43:46.560 --> 01:43:49.095
authority um to meet its obligations for

01:43:49.119 --> 01:43:51.576
both our roads and our footpaths. And um

01:43:51.600 --> 01:43:54.215
councelor Langford has has rightly um

01:43:54.239 --> 01:43:56.376
spent a lot of time talking about the

01:43:56.400 --> 01:43:58.856
changes um in this in this substantia

01:43:58.880 --> 01:44:01.016
before us. And I wholeheartedly agree.

01:44:01.040 --> 01:44:03.256
Um cuz during the election councilors I

01:44:03.280 --> 01:44:06.280
remember door knocking a woman and um

01:44:06.320 --> 01:44:08.856
she elderly I'm guessing somewhere in

01:44:08.880 --> 01:44:11.880
her 80s and um she almost broke into

01:44:12.320 --> 01:44:15.320
tears on me um because she was

01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:17.976
describing how fearful she felt leaving

01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:19.976
her house. Um based on that

01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:21.896
conversation, I'm assuming she has some

01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:24.376
form of mobility walker or other or

01:44:24.400 --> 01:44:26.695
other aid. And what she was concerned

01:44:26.719 --> 01:44:29.016
about was the wheels catching on the

01:44:29.040 --> 01:44:32.040
footpath. And and it was a really

01:44:32.159 --> 01:44:34.376
insightful conversation to how people

01:44:34.400 --> 01:44:37.400
with mobility issues um live if they are

01:44:38.480 --> 01:44:40.615
fearful to go outside because they don't

01:44:40.639 --> 01:44:42.376
want to injure themselves. And so

01:44:42.400 --> 01:44:44.456
counselors, when we consider the

01:44:44.480 --> 01:44:46.215
thresholds at which we are going to fix

01:44:46.239 --> 01:44:48.456
foot paths and other other defects in

01:44:48.480 --> 01:44:50.376
our city, we need to think about the

01:44:50.400 --> 01:44:52.856
people that we are really serving. And

01:44:52.880 --> 01:44:55.880
it is noted up there, counselors, that

01:44:56.239 --> 01:44:59.239
um it it is going to cost about $250,000

01:45:00.480 --> 01:45:03.480
um for us to  to implement this

01:45:03.760 --> 01:45:06.760
change. And I think that's a fair um

01:45:07.040 --> 01:45:10.040
fair exchange um so that we can provide

01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:11.976
a level of standard or a level of

01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:14.856
quality that is um expected of us in the

01:45:14.880 --> 01:45:17.880
city. Um and  the other thing that

01:45:18.800 --> 01:45:20.215
this road management plan does

01:45:20.239 --> 01:45:22.536
counselors is it provides the basis for

01:45:22.560 --> 01:45:25.336
which we um deal with claims through

01:45:25.360 --> 01:45:28.360
insurance processes. Um and so um I just

01:45:29.199 --> 01:45:31.976
would like to highlight that um across

01:45:32.000 --> 01:45:35.000
the  years 2019 to 2025 the cost of

01:45:37.280 --> 01:45:39.816
claims um the council have paid as

01:45:39.840 --> 01:45:42.840
excess um has been just over $600,000.

01:45:44.159 --> 01:45:46.296
So if we break that out about 6 years,

01:45:46.320 --> 01:45:49.095
that's roughly $100,000 a year in excess

01:45:49.119 --> 01:45:51.496
to our insurer to deal with claims where

01:45:51.520 --> 01:45:52.615
people have unfortunately hurt

01:45:52.639 --> 01:45:54.695
themselves in our city. So once again,

01:45:54.719 --> 01:45:56.135
when we consider the sums of money

01:45:56.159 --> 01:45:59.095
involved counselors versus what our our

01:45:59.119 --> 01:46:01.655
um community expects of us, I think it's

01:46:01.679 --> 01:46:04.215
a no-brainer to go with this. I think we

01:46:04.239 --> 01:46:07.239
need to um support the these people in

01:46:07.360 --> 01:46:09.095
our community and and the standards they

01:46:09.119 --> 01:46:11.576
expect from us.

01:46:11.600 --> 01:46:13.175
Are there any further speakers to the

01:46:13.199 --> 01:46:13.976
motion?

01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:14.856
Yes, Mayor.

01:46:14.880 --> 01:46:17.576
Council Martin. Um, Mayor, I'll be

01:46:17.600 --> 01:46:20.135
supporting this motion, but um I'd just

01:46:20.159 --> 01:46:22.056
like to commend the council officers,

01:46:22.080 --> 01:46:23.896
working work workers and contractors who

01:46:23.920 --> 01:46:26.695
take on this work every day. Um, they

01:46:26.719 --> 01:46:28.456
work hard on to the standards and I'm

01:46:28.480 --> 01:46:29.655
sure they'll be meeting these new

01:46:29.679 --> 01:46:32.615
standards once they're implemented. Um I

01:46:32.639 --> 01:46:34.376
just wanted to also note that council

01:46:34.400 --> 01:46:36.215
was voted one of the best performing

01:46:36.239 --> 01:46:39.016
councils with snaps in solve and I hope

01:46:39.040 --> 01:46:40.615
we continue with this high ranking in

01:46:40.639 --> 01:46:42.215
this area where when we as we're

01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:43.816
measured with the council next year.

01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:44.856
Thank you Mayor.

01:46:44.880 --> 01:46:46.376
Are there any further speakers to the

01:46:46.400 --> 01:46:47.175
motion

01:46:47.199 --> 01:46:48.296
deputy Mayor?

01:46:48.320 --> 01:46:50.456
Thank you very much Mayor. I I will be

01:46:50.480 --> 01:46:53.480
supporting this motion as well. Um and

01:46:53.840 --> 01:46:56.536
I'd like to thank the community who have

01:46:56.560 --> 01:46:59.016
engaged with this post  with this

01:46:59.040 --> 01:47:02.040
particular consultation. There are 119

01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:04.296
um responses.

01:47:04.320 --> 01:47:06.776
Um, councelor Simpson talked about

01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:09.256
thinking about the people we are serving

01:47:09.280 --> 01:47:12.280
and I would like to um speak about

01:47:13.440 --> 01:47:15.736
somebody who is in the chamber here who

01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:18.536
has had an incident and I'd like to

01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:20.856
think that you have been heard and it's

01:47:20.880 --> 01:47:23.576
really important that even though  we

01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:26.600
went out initially saying 25 mm is the

01:47:26.639 --> 01:47:29.016
vertical displacement and officers came

01:47:29.040 --> 01:47:32.040
back and said no 20 mm but but

01:47:32.719 --> 01:47:34.376
councilors are actually saying no we

01:47:34.400 --> 01:47:37.016
want to keep it as it is because we have

01:47:37.040 --> 01:47:39.416
after my question about the claims that

01:47:39.440 --> 01:47:41.175
councelor Simpson has talked about I

01:47:41.199 --> 01:47:43.896
asked information about that we haven't

01:47:43.920 --> 01:47:45.416
had a lot and I think it's really

01:47:45.440 --> 01:47:47.655
important that with some of the comments

01:47:47.679 --> 01:47:50.679
that have been made in in the um

01:47:50.719 --> 01:47:52.296
consultation

01:47:52.320 --> 01:47:53.816
79.5%

01:47:53.840 --> 01:47:56.536
of people says that we should spend more

01:47:56.560 --> 01:47:59.560
money on foot paths and roads

01:47:59.840 --> 01:48:01.816
that type of infrastructure is council

01:48:01.840 --> 01:48:03.976
core business and I think this is what

01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:05.736
we need to do as well. We just need to

01:48:05.760 --> 01:48:07.736
listen to what people are saying here.

01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:10.760
We need to  understand that the um the

01:48:10.960 --> 01:48:13.175
15 mm is what people feel comfortable

01:48:13.199 --> 01:48:15.016
with. As councelor Martin mentioned, we

01:48:15.040 --> 01:48:18.040
are one of the we actually we are the um

01:48:18.480 --> 01:48:21.480
Victorian um winner of the Snapsense

01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:24.600
Solve amenity um  app in terms of the

01:48:25.920 --> 01:48:28.135
community satisfaction and also not only

01:48:28.159 --> 01:48:29.816
the number of people who report that but

01:48:29.840 --> 01:48:31.976
also how these things are managed from

01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:33.496
the officers point of view and I'd like

01:48:33.520 --> 01:48:35.095
to commend officers for that as well.

01:48:35.119 --> 01:48:36.615
But I will be supporting this. I think

01:48:36.639 --> 01:48:39.095
this is a good a good  response to

01:48:39.119 --> 01:48:41.336
this particular motion. Thank you Mayor.

01:48:41.360 --> 01:48:43.336
Any further speakers to the motion?

01:48:43.360 --> 01:48:43.896
Yes, ma'am.

01:48:43.920 --> 01:48:45.896
Yes, Mayor.

01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:48.056
I'll go council Griffith first and I

01:48:48.080 --> 01:48:49.976
have recognized you, Council Barker.

01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:53.000
I'll I'll call you second. Okay, Council

01:48:53.040 --> 01:48:53.655
Griffith.

01:48:53.679 --> 01:48:56.135
Thanks, Mayor. This is um this amendment

01:48:56.159 --> 01:48:58.296
is council getting back to basics and

01:48:58.320 --> 01:49:00.695
doing them well. There are two main

01:49:00.719 --> 01:49:03.256
options that we have to reduce public

01:49:03.280 --> 01:49:05.016
liability claims. Two different

01:49:05.040 --> 01:49:07.095
approaches. We can either weaken the

01:49:07.119 --> 01:49:09.095
power of the public to get injury

01:49:09.119 --> 01:49:10.695
compensation.

01:49:10.719 --> 01:49:12.456
What this amendment does is take the

01:49:12.480 --> 01:49:14.456
second option which is improve the

01:49:14.480 --> 01:49:16.615
footpaths themselves to reduce the risk

01:49:16.639 --> 01:49:19.175
of injury taking place.

01:49:19.199 --> 01:49:21.416
 a member of the Whitehorse

01:49:21.440 --> 01:49:23.576
disability advisory committee said the

01:49:23.600 --> 01:49:25.976
following. Public safety should be the

01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:29.000
priority. Put safety before liability.

01:49:31.119 --> 01:49:34.119
Council Barker.

01:49:34.880 --> 01:49:36.536
Thanks very much, Mayor. I'd just like

01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:37.736
to make a couple of points. I'm

01:49:37.760 --> 01:49:39.256
impressed that the report has a

01:49:39.280 --> 01:49:42.135
commitment to investigating

01:49:42.159 --> 01:49:45.159
um greater use of technology in terms of

01:49:45.440 --> 01:49:48.215
the inspection of our assets, Mayor,

01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:50.135
because it shouldn't just be up to the

01:49:50.159 --> 01:49:52.135
public to be doing the p the inspection

01:49:52.159 --> 01:49:53.336
of the assets. They'll tell us when

01:49:53.360 --> 01:49:55.336
there are faults, but um we really

01:49:55.360 --> 01:49:57.016
should be inspecting those assets. At

01:49:57.040 --> 01:49:58.936
the moment, we have a terrific employer

01:49:58.960 --> 01:50:00.936
that walks every piece of footpath in

01:50:00.960 --> 01:50:02.695
the city of Whitehorse, but of course,

01:50:02.719 --> 01:50:04.536
that's not the quickest way to do it. So

01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:07.560
we need to be out there and monitoring.

01:50:07.600 --> 01:50:09.655
Why is that important? Because very

01:50:09.679 --> 01:50:12.296
often it's not our actions that damage

01:50:12.320 --> 01:50:14.856
our footpaths. It's the actions of other

01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:16.936
people that interfere with our assets

01:50:16.960 --> 01:50:19.416
that then create risks for our citizens.

01:50:19.440 --> 01:50:21.256
And that that's a point that really

01:50:21.280 --> 01:50:23.655
needs to be made. So you know whether

01:50:23.679 --> 01:50:26.679
it's Telra or these gas gas companies or

01:50:26.880 --> 01:50:29.496
any number of other people. I've seen a

01:50:29.520 --> 01:50:31.655
um one of those little tipper truck

01:50:31.679 --> 01:50:34.376
people with um bin bin bin hire people

01:50:34.400 --> 01:50:36.936
may that have been you know reversing

01:50:36.960 --> 01:50:39.095
over our foot paths and breaking them.

01:50:39.119 --> 01:50:41.416
Well,

01:50:41.440 --> 01:50:43.816
we can inspect every two years but um

01:50:43.840 --> 01:50:46.135
unless um we're doing it more

01:50:46.159 --> 01:50:47.976
frequently. Well, you know, we need to

01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:49.896
also try and hold these other people

01:50:49.920 --> 01:50:51.175
accountable and we're certainly doing

01:50:51.199 --> 01:50:52.856
that when it comes to Telster and the

01:50:52.880 --> 01:50:54.936
gas people and the water people and

01:50:54.960 --> 01:50:56.215
other people that interfere with our

01:50:56.239 --> 01:50:57.816
assets and leave them in a condition

01:50:57.840 --> 01:50:59.976
where they may present a risk to our

01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:01.256
community. So, I think that will be a

01:51:01.280 --> 01:51:04.215
piece of ongoing advers advocacy. Thank

01:51:04.239 --> 01:51:06.695
you, Mayor.

01:51:06.719 --> 01:51:08.296
Are there any further speakers to the

01:51:08.320 --> 01:51:09.175
motion?

01:51:09.199 --> 01:51:11.416
Yes, Mayor. Council Well,

01:51:11.440 --> 01:51:13.576
I am comfortable with the report

01:51:13.600 --> 01:51:16.600
recommendation and amended RMP as is all

01:51:17.679 --> 01:51:20.056
of which have considered legal and

01:51:20.080 --> 01:51:22.856
insurance advice received benchmarking

01:51:22.880 --> 01:51:25.880
from council's insurer MAV insurance and

01:51:26.239 --> 01:51:28.695
community feedback and all of which is

01:51:28.719 --> 01:51:31.095
allocated within the budget we approved

01:51:31.119 --> 01:51:33.256
a few months ago. Therefore, I do not

01:51:33.280 --> 01:51:35.655
support this amendment.

01:51:35.679 --> 01:51:37.896
Are there any further speakers to the

01:51:37.920 --> 01:51:39.496
motion?

01:51:39.520 --> 01:51:41.496
Given that there are no further speakers

01:51:41.520 --> 01:51:43.816
and that one counselor has spoken

01:51:43.840 --> 01:51:46.840
against the motion, I will give

01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:49.960
councelor Langford a right of reply.

01:51:51.599 --> 01:51:53.575
I think that everyone who has spoken

01:51:53.599 --> 01:51:56.376
tonight apart from councelor has

01:51:56.400 --> 01:51:59.016
supported this motion in terms of people

01:51:59.040 --> 01:52:02.040
feeling safe on their foot paths. And I

01:52:02.400 --> 01:52:05.400
think  we turn to the person in the

01:52:05.440 --> 01:52:08.440
audience here today who has responded

01:52:08.560 --> 01:52:10.135
very emotionally to the fact that

01:52:10.159 --> 01:52:12.296
counselors support this. But it's not

01:52:12.320 --> 01:52:14.456
about emotion. It's about delivering a

01:52:14.480 --> 01:52:17.336
safe environment. We need to deliver a

01:52:17.360 --> 01:52:19.095
safe environment for our community. And

01:52:19.119 --> 01:52:21.175
our community has been asking that of

01:52:21.199 --> 01:52:23.976
us. Certainly, I've got several people

01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:25.575
like yourself, councelor Simpson, who

01:52:25.599 --> 01:52:28.135
have asked me to do something about this

01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:30.856
um amendment and actually deliver a

01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:33.175
better outcome in terms of safety on

01:52:33.199 --> 01:52:36.199
their footpaths. So,  I reply that

01:52:37.119 --> 01:52:39.336
it's really important to provide safe

01:52:39.360 --> 01:52:42.360
footpaths and roads for access for all,

01:52:42.480 --> 01:52:45.480
safe access for all regardless of

01:52:45.599 --> 01:52:47.496
whether they're an able or disabled

01:52:47.520 --> 01:52:49.336
person. Thank you.

01:52:49.360 --> 01:52:51.336
I will now put the motion to the vote.

01:52:51.360 --> 01:52:54.360
Those in favor, councelor Simpson,

01:52:54.639 --> 01:52:56.695
Councelor Gun, Deputy Mayor Cuts,

01:52:56.719 --> 01:52:59.256
Councelor Davenport, Council Griffith,

01:52:59.280 --> 01:53:02.215
Council Langford, Councelor Stennet,

01:53:02.239 --> 01:53:04.056
Councelor Martin, Council Barker

01:53:04.080 --> 01:53:06.296
against, Council Weller. I declare the

01:53:06.320 --> 01:53:08.886
motion carried.

01:53:08.910 --> 01:53:11.575
[Applause]

01:53:11.599 --> 01:53:13.575
Right.

01:53:13.599 --> 01:53:15.336
Do one more item and then we will stop

01:53:15.360 --> 01:53:18.215
for a break. 10.9

01:53:18.239 --> 01:53:21.239
Current item 10.9. It was listed in the

01:53:21.280 --> 01:53:24.280
agenda as 10.8.

01:53:24.320 --> 01:53:26.056
Brenford Square Shopping Center

01:53:26.080 --> 01:53:28.296
declaration of special charges for

01:53:28.320 --> 01:53:31.320
marketing and promotion of infrastruct

01:53:31.599 --> 01:53:34.135
and infrastructure purposes. I seek a

01:53:34.159 --> 01:53:34.695
mover.

01:53:34.719 --> 01:53:35.336
Yes, Mayor.

01:53:35.360 --> 01:53:37.976
Councelor Martin. I seek a second.

01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:39.175
Happy to second. Mayor

01:53:39.199 --> 01:53:41.655
Councelor Deputy Mayor Cuts. Council

01:53:41.679 --> 01:53:42.536
Martin.

01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:43.816
Thank you, Mayor and counselor. The

01:53:43.840 --> 01:53:45.655
special charge charger scheme for

01:53:45.679 --> 01:53:46.936
Brenford Square is aligned with

01:53:46.960 --> 01:53:48.695
council's investment and economic

01:53:48.719 --> 01:53:51.719
development strategy 24 to 28 and I

01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:53.655
support the scheme for a further 5 years

01:53:53.679 --> 01:53:56.679
noting it started back in 1994. I was

01:53:56.880 --> 01:53:58.296
shopping at Brenford Square on Sunday

01:53:58.320 --> 01:54:00.456
and this pre this precinct was very busy

01:54:00.480 --> 01:54:03.016
across the traders large and small. It's

01:54:03.040 --> 01:54:04.536
a shopping center with plenty of parking

01:54:04.560 --> 01:54:06.135
and a wide retail offering but I'll

01:54:06.159 --> 01:54:07.575
leave the job of promoting Brenford

01:54:07.599 --> 01:54:08.936
Square with the traders and and

01:54:08.960 --> 01:54:11.960
Marmalade Sky team. Um you'll recall

01:54:12.320 --> 01:54:13.896
this proposal has come to council

01:54:13.920 --> 01:54:15.655
previously and council has gone through

01:54:15.679 --> 01:54:17.336
the process of receiving the submission

01:54:17.360 --> 01:54:19.655
from the traders and subse subsequent

01:54:19.679 --> 01:54:22.135
consideration of stakeholder feedback.

01:54:22.159 --> 01:54:23.896
This is the final stage for council to

01:54:23.920 --> 01:54:25.416
declare and implement the special

01:54:25.440 --> 01:54:26.936
charges scheme for Brenford Square

01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:29.416
traders for a for a further period of 5

01:54:29.440 --> 01:54:32.440
years. Um supporting business is a key

01:54:32.719 --> 01:54:34.456
objective of Whitehorse City Council

01:54:34.480 --> 01:54:35.976
and the special charges scheme for

01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:38.056
Brenford Square traders is an example of

01:54:38.080 --> 01:54:40.536
this support. Council also supports

01:54:40.560 --> 01:54:42.456
business via its support of the White

01:54:42.480 --> 01:54:44.215
House business group and also the

01:54:44.239 --> 01:54:45.896
deployment of a new business permit

01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:47.736
support officer.

01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:49.496
This position is providing a one-stop

01:54:49.520 --> 01:54:51.095
shop for business wanting to establish

01:54:51.119 --> 01:54:52.695
themselves in the city of Whitehorse

01:54:52.719 --> 01:54:54.695
and is already receiving some positive

01:54:54.719 --> 01:54:57.416
feedback. The key message here is that

01:54:57.440 --> 01:54:59.016
supporting business and e economic

01:54:59.040 --> 01:55:01.655
activity takes a multi-pronged approach

01:55:01.679 --> 01:55:03.256
and council will continue to work hard

01:55:03.280 --> 01:55:05.896
in this strategic direction.

01:55:05.920 --> 01:55:07.816
 in terms of tangible benefits to

01:55:07.840 --> 01:55:09.416
traders and customers, this scheme has

01:55:09.440 --> 01:55:12.056
enabled investment in CCTV, lighting and

01:55:12.080 --> 01:55:13.816
sound improvements.

01:55:13.840 --> 01:55:15.816
Special in events that engage the

01:55:15.840 --> 01:55:17.175
customers are held throughout the year,

01:55:17.199 --> 01:55:18.536
including Christmas, Easter, and

01:55:18.560 --> 01:55:21.016
Halloween. So that's coming up shortly.

01:55:21.040 --> 01:55:22.615
 it's also worth highlighting that

01:55:22.639 --> 01:55:24.536
council is progressively updating the

01:55:24.560 --> 01:55:26.296
pavement, landscaping, and street

01:55:26.320 --> 01:55:27.896
furniture at respective shopping

01:55:27.920 --> 01:55:29.655
precincts in our city, and the

01:55:29.679 --> 01:55:31.655
investment at Brenford Square was in

01:55:31.679 --> 01:55:34.679
excess of $500,000 in recent years. In

01:55:35.199 --> 01:55:36.615
the end, customers are looking for a

01:55:36.639 --> 01:55:38.856
clean, safe and convenient shopping

01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:40.615
experience, and Brenford Square offers

01:55:40.639 --> 01:55:43.336
this and so much more. Finally, thanks

01:55:43.360 --> 01:55:45.496
to council officers facil facilitating

01:55:45.520 --> 01:55:47.256
this process for this scheme and the

01:55:47.280 --> 01:55:48.856
committee for Brenford Square Traders

01:55:48.880 --> 01:55:51.016
Association. Councilors, I ask for your

01:55:51.040 --> 01:55:54.040
support. Thank you,

01:55:54.080 --> 01:55:55.175
Deputy Mayor.

01:55:55.199 --> 01:55:56.296
Thank you very much, Mayor. Well,

01:55:56.320 --> 01:55:57.896
there's not much to add to that, but

01:55:57.920 --> 01:56:00.920
just to say that um the special charge

01:56:00.960 --> 01:56:03.416
scheme actually is two related but

01:56:03.440 --> 01:56:05.496
otherwise separate charges and one is

01:56:05.520 --> 01:56:07.976
for marketing and promotion and the

01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:10.135
other is for the physical infrastructure

01:56:10.159 --> 01:56:13.159
purposes. So, I know Brenford Square

01:56:13.199 --> 01:56:15.016
very well. I I've shoed there for the

01:56:15.040 --> 01:56:17.816
last 12 years and it's important because

01:56:17.840 --> 01:56:19.736
it is just down the road from Forest

01:56:19.760 --> 01:56:22.760
Hill Chase. So, it's not unlike Burwood

01:56:23.679 --> 01:56:25.896
Brick Works, which is the brand new

01:56:25.920 --> 01:56:27.575
Burwood Brick Works and Burwood one

01:56:27.599 --> 01:56:29.175
across the road, which is the only other

01:56:29.199 --> 01:56:31.416
area part of Whitehorse, which has

01:56:31.440 --> 01:56:33.655
actually got a special charge scheme.

01:56:33.679 --> 01:56:36.679
So, I I fully support this. Um, as

01:56:36.800 --> 01:56:38.536
Council Martin mentioned, lots of

01:56:38.560 --> 01:56:40.776
parking, lots of individual shops there,

01:56:40.800 --> 01:56:42.936
you've got your bakers, you've got your

01:56:42.960 --> 01:56:45.416
butchers, you've got your post office,

01:56:45.440 --> 01:56:47.655
you know, you've got news agents. So, so

01:56:47.679 --> 01:56:49.416
it's really good that we want to

01:56:49.440 --> 01:56:52.440
encourage these businesses to thrive

01:56:52.639 --> 01:56:55.016
because we know that if we encourage

01:56:55.040 --> 01:56:56.615
them to thrive, they will be putting

01:56:56.639 --> 01:56:59.336
back and making us a stronger community.

01:56:59.360 --> 01:57:01.175
So, councilors, please support this

01:57:01.199 --> 01:57:03.095
motion. Thank you.

01:57:03.119 --> 01:57:04.695
Are there any further speakers to the

01:57:04.719 --> 01:57:05.496
motion? May

01:57:05.520 --> 01:57:06.776
Council Langford,

01:57:06.800 --> 01:57:08.615
I just wanted to quickly state that

01:57:08.639 --> 01:57:10.536
placemaking is really important for

01:57:10.560 --> 01:57:12.776
places like Brenford Spare Square. We've

01:57:12.800 --> 01:57:14.456
seen in Hamilton Street, which we all

01:57:14.480 --> 01:57:17.095
spoke about over the many times, that

01:57:17.119 --> 01:57:19.016
the success of placemaking there has

01:57:19.040 --> 01:57:21.095
been really essential for that community

01:57:21.119 --> 01:57:24.119
to to bring back the act activation of

01:57:24.320 --> 01:57:27.175
that street and people coming back. It's

01:57:27.199 --> 01:57:29.095
traders groups, however, that are the

01:57:29.119 --> 01:57:31.416
true lifeblood of these local shopping

01:57:31.440 --> 01:57:33.816
strips and areas. And in order to be

01:57:33.840 --> 01:57:35.575
successful, they need to raise funds.

01:57:35.599 --> 01:57:37.575
Whether it's by an annual fee such as

01:57:37.599 --> 01:57:40.599
the um the Mont Halbert Village Group or

01:57:40.639 --> 01:57:42.296
having a levy such as this on their

01:57:42.320 --> 01:57:44.056
rates, the support from council is

01:57:44.080 --> 01:57:46.376
essential to deliver better placemaking

01:57:46.400 --> 01:57:49.256
and better better activation of those

01:57:49.280 --> 01:57:51.575
areas. Thank you.

01:57:51.599 --> 01:57:53.256
Are there any further speakers to the

01:57:53.280 --> 01:57:56.280
motion? Being no further speakers and no

01:57:56.320 --> 01:57:58.856
one has spoken against, um I will there

01:57:58.880 --> 01:58:00.856
will not be a right of reply and I will

01:58:00.880 --> 01:58:03.880
now put the motion. Those in favor,

01:58:04.320 --> 01:58:06.936
it's carried unanimously. It we are very

01:58:06.960 --> 01:58:09.960
close to 9:00. I will now um  have a

01:58:11.599 --> 01:58:14.599
5minut break. So we'll pause the meeting

01:58:14.719 --> 01:58:17.719
and we will come back at 9:05

01:58:18.560 --> 01:58:21.560
p.m. Thank you.

01:58:22.719 --> 01:58:25.719
So I will now resume the meeting. Um and

01:58:26.320 --> 01:58:29.320
I will now go to item 9.

01:58:32.080 --> 01:58:35.080
Sorry. 10.10 which was on the agenda

01:58:35.599 --> 01:58:37.496
10.9

01:58:37.520 --> 01:58:40.520
um development contribution plan update.

01:58:40.639 --> 01:58:41.976
I seek a mover up.

01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:43.016
I'll move Mayor.

01:58:43.040 --> 01:58:45.736
Council Langford.

01:58:45.760 --> 01:58:47.256
I seek a second.

01:58:47.280 --> 01:58:48.296
Second. Mayor.

01:58:48.320 --> 01:58:51.016
Council Weller. Council Langford. The

01:58:51.040 --> 01:58:52.776
Whitehorse Development Contributions

01:58:52.800 --> 01:58:55.095
Plan or the DCP was incorporated into

01:58:55.119 --> 01:58:57.175
the White House planning scheme on the

01:58:57.199 --> 01:58:59.896
21st of December 2023 following council

01:58:59.920 --> 01:59:02.920
adoption on the 10th of July 2023 via

01:59:03.199 --> 01:59:05.896
amendment C241

01:59:05.920 --> 01:59:07.175
which applied a development

01:59:07.199 --> 01:59:10.199
contributions plan overlay or DCPO

01:59:10.560 --> 01:59:13.560
across the municipality. Its initial

01:59:13.679 --> 01:59:15.256
implementation has been highly

01:59:15.280 --> 01:59:18.280
successful collecting around 1 million

01:59:18.400 --> 01:59:21.400
or let's say exactly 1,219,81.71

01:59:24.800 --> 01:59:27.800
in levies by the end of 2024 financial

01:59:28.239 --> 01:59:29.896
year for essential community

01:59:29.920 --> 01:59:31.416
infrastructure.

01:59:31.440 --> 01:59:32.936
Collected levies have been fully

01:59:32.960 --> 01:59:35.416
allocated each year to complete to

01:59:35.440 --> 01:59:37.816
completed DCP projects and eight

01:59:37.840 --> 01:59:39.816
projects including Heatherdale Reserve

01:59:39.840 --> 01:59:42.376
pavillion refurbishment, Vermont South

01:59:42.400 --> 01:59:45.400
club Rooms, Strathton House car park,

01:59:45.760 --> 01:59:48.760
the Cinnamon Lane reconstruction, Kurl

01:59:48.880 --> 01:59:51.336
Lane reconstruction all receive full

01:59:51.360 --> 01:59:53.496
allocations and two others receive

01:59:53.520 --> 01:59:55.496
partial allocations.

01:59:55.520 --> 01:59:57.416
Ministerial reporting has been completed

01:59:57.440 --> 01:59:58.695
annually to the department of

01:59:58.719 --> 02:00:00.695
transporters planning as required under

02:00:00.719 --> 02:00:03.719
the planning and environment act 1987.

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Effective the DCP management plan

02:00:07.760 --> 02:00:10.456
effective DCP management relies on a

02:00:10.480 --> 02:00:12.056
full-time development contributions

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officer band six supported by a

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part-time administrative officer. The DC

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officer approved for a 2-year term

02:00:20.000 --> 02:00:23.000
ending March 26 handles daily

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administration, levy indexation, funding

02:00:25.679 --> 02:00:27.655
allocation, statutory reporting

02:00:27.679 --> 02:00:29.976
reporting, and applicant dispute

02:00:30.000 --> 02:00:31.575
resolution.

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Experience confirms the role is

02:00:33.440 --> 02:00:36.440
essential long term. While the plan

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recommends four a four-yearly review, a

02:00:39.360 --> 02:00:42.360
full review is proposed for 2026 27 to

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align with more major strategic

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projects. the white including the white

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horse flood mapping strategy, talleho

02:00:49.679 --> 02:00:51.816
structure plan, suburban rail loop

02:00:51.840 --> 02:00:53.416
precinct planning and the activity

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center program.

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This timing allows incorporation of the

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new infrastructure instru infrastructure

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eligible for DCP funding including

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potential drainage works from the flood

02:01:04.560 --> 02:01:07.560
mapping strategy. The review will also

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update population and dwelling forecasts

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to reflect expected residential, retail

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and commercial growth from S SRL

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precinct and activity center program

02:01:17.360 --> 02:01:20.360
outcomes. The DEC officer will be a

02:01:21.199 --> 02:01:22.936
critical resource in conduct in

02:01:22.960 --> 02:01:25.416
conducting this comprehensive review.

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Councilors, I thank the officers for

02:01:28.320 --> 02:01:30.135
preparing this report. It's very

02:01:30.159 --> 02:01:32.615
detailed and I commend the report. Thank

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you,

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Council Wallup.

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Thank you, Mayor. The DCP was introduced

02:01:37.679 --> 02:01:39.655
into the Whitehorse planning scheme

02:01:39.679 --> 02:01:42.215
around 20 months ago and has collected

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just over 1.22 million to fund local

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infrastructure projects. The report

02:01:48.000 --> 02:01:50.536
gives an update on its implementation

02:01:50.560 --> 02:01:52.536
with eight projects having had their

02:01:52.560 --> 02:01:55.560
full DCP income estimate allocated and

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two projects partially allocated with a

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review of the DCP in the next financial

02:02:01.199 --> 02:02:04.056
year. There is also opportunity for the

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DC officer role to continue given their

02:02:06.719 --> 02:02:09.016
workload and the pipeline of strategic

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planning work in Whitehorse including

02:02:10.960 --> 02:02:13.960
the Taliho structure plan, SRL precincts

02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:16.296
and the activity centers program. I

02:02:16.320 --> 02:02:19.016
commend the recommendation to council.

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Are there any

02:02:21.119 --> 02:02:24.119
further are there any further speakers

02:02:24.320 --> 02:02:27.320
to the motion? No further speakers. Um

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given that no one has spoken against

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there will not be a right of reply. I

02:02:31.760 --> 02:02:34.760
will now put the motion. Those in favor

02:02:34.800 --> 02:02:37.016
it's carried unanimously.

02:02:37.040 --> 02:02:40.040
Um item  10.11 which was printed as

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10.10 council meeting dates 2026. I seek

02:02:44.880 --> 02:02:45.496
a mover.

02:02:45.520 --> 02:02:47.416
May I'd like to move an alternate.

02:02:47.440 --> 02:02:50.440
An alternate um has been moved by

02:02:51.920 --> 02:02:54.536
councelor Griffith. Can you briefly

02:02:54.560 --> 02:02:56.536
indicate what that is before I move to a

02:02:56.560 --> 02:02:59.416
seconder? It was  option three in the

02:02:59.440 --> 02:03:01.655
report which is a monthly council

02:03:01.679 --> 02:03:03.175
meeting

02:03:03.199 --> 02:03:05.976
and changes seeking to initiate a

02:03:06.000 --> 02:03:08.056
process where

02:03:08.080 --> 02:03:11.080
having fewer meetings will allow  more

02:03:12.480 --> 02:03:15.336
request more public presentations at a

02:03:15.360 --> 02:03:16.615
meeting.

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Okay, I seek a second uper.

02:03:18.400 --> 02:03:19.976
Happy to sec.

02:03:20.000 --> 02:03:22.856
Deputy Mayor seconding

02:03:22.880 --> 02:03:25.880
council Griffith. , thanks Mayor.

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What the public see are these council

02:03:30.000 --> 02:03:32.135
meetings. What the public don't see are

02:03:32.159 --> 02:03:34.056
the briefings that happen on the

02:03:34.080 --> 02:03:36.376
alternating Monday. Those briefings

02:03:36.400 --> 02:03:39.400
often go very late into the night, much

02:03:39.520 --> 02:03:41.816
later than a council meeting. Sometimes

02:03:41.840 --> 02:03:43.655
we have to defer things. Sometimes

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things in my personal view don't get

02:03:46.080 --> 02:03:49.080
enough attention and we I want to allow

02:03:49.520 --> 02:03:52.376
additional time for briefings to be well

02:03:52.400 --> 02:03:54.215
informed. Council meetings are

02:03:54.239 --> 02:03:56.695
relatively short. I think we can squeeze

02:03:56.719 --> 02:03:58.615
a lot more into a council meeting than

02:03:58.639 --> 02:04:01.256
we currently have. I remember a few

02:04:01.280 --> 02:04:03.416
meetings ago we had two items on one

02:04:03.440 --> 02:04:05.416
meeting. We could this this option also

02:04:05.440 --> 02:04:07.336
allows for special meetings for any

02:04:07.360 --> 02:04:09.175
statutory requirements that need to be

02:04:09.199 --> 02:04:10.776
done by a certain date if they're not

02:04:10.800 --> 02:04:13.800
done in time. Um overall I'm moving this

02:04:15.040 --> 02:04:18.040
for to balance to rebalance long

02:04:18.320 --> 02:04:21.256
briefings and the short public meetings.

02:04:21.280 --> 02:04:24.215
 in doing so,

02:04:24.239 --> 02:04:26.296
one of the reasons in doing so is that

02:04:26.320 --> 02:04:28.536
monthly is much easier to understand. I

02:04:28.560 --> 02:04:30.456
have a number of monthly commitments. I

02:04:30.480 --> 02:04:32.296
know many other counselors do in their

02:04:32.320 --> 02:04:34.776
committee and community roles. Something

02:04:34.800 --> 02:04:36.615
like a council meeting on the third

02:04:36.639 --> 02:04:38.536
Monday of the month is very easy for the

02:04:38.560 --> 02:04:41.175
public to understand, communicate. I can

02:04:41.199 --> 02:04:43.095
tell you the date in, you know, a few

02:04:43.119 --> 02:04:44.615
years time, a future month, three-w

02:04:44.639 --> 02:04:46.536
weekly. I need to know when it starts. I

02:04:46.560 --> 02:04:48.135
need to look up the calendar every time

02:04:48.159 --> 02:04:51.016
it's required. For me, that makes sense.

02:04:51.040 --> 02:04:53.256
For anything more than two weeks, two

02:04:53.280 --> 02:04:55.095
weeks is easy. Is it yellow or green

02:04:55.119 --> 02:04:56.536
bin? When it gets to three weeks, I

02:04:56.560 --> 02:04:59.560
think monthly makes more sense.

02:04:59.599 --> 02:05:02.599
Um I'm part of  the BJA young

02:05:03.119 --> 02:05:05.016
counselors network which is very

02:05:05.040 --> 02:05:08.040
generously um threshold by age and c the

02:05:10.239 --> 02:05:11.976
organization of council meetings have

02:05:12.000 --> 02:05:14.936
come up and one consideration is 

02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:17.256
whether this role is appealing to young

02:05:17.280 --> 02:05:20.280
people young parents and  I I believe

02:05:20.880 --> 02:05:23.016
having a consolidated meeting

02:05:23.040 --> 02:05:25.016
arrangement is one way to achieve that

02:05:25.040 --> 02:05:27.976
but reflect on a case where  a

02:05:28.000 --> 02:05:31.000
counselor has used um what's a form of

02:05:31.760 --> 02:05:33.336
expense that's allowed in the local

02:05:33.360 --> 02:05:36.360
government act for child care and other

02:05:36.480 --> 02:05:38.615
caring arrangements. If that were used

02:05:38.639 --> 02:05:41.639
in one go that would be  much  less

02:05:41.840 --> 02:05:44.840
  less of an issue that would be

02:05:44.880 --> 02:05:46.856
challenged in the media happen to this

02:05:46.880 --> 02:05:49.095
one young counselor.

02:05:49.119 --> 02:05:51.095
Other examples of council meetings are

02:05:51.119 --> 02:05:53.655
monthly. Um some examples where council

02:05:53.679 --> 02:05:55.655
meetings happen in within working hours

02:05:55.679 --> 02:05:57.496
on a Wednesday that some people struggle

02:05:57.520 --> 02:06:00.456
to um attend both public and it's

02:06:00.480 --> 02:06:01.896
offputting for people to run for

02:06:01.920 --> 02:06:04.920
council. So I'd like you to consider not

02:06:05.040 --> 02:06:07.816
just um our own preference but the

02:06:07.840 --> 02:06:10.536
preference of who may  be a counselor

02:06:10.560 --> 02:06:13.256
in the future and how we can change the

02:06:13.280 --> 02:06:15.336
sector to better accommodate counselors

02:06:15.360 --> 02:06:17.336
that are more representative of the

02:06:17.360 --> 02:06:19.976
community.

02:06:20.000 --> 02:06:21.575
 point three I think is really

02:06:21.599 --> 02:06:23.416
important whether we go for monthly or

02:06:23.440 --> 02:06:25.816
three weekly.  if we had two council

02:06:25.840 --> 02:06:28.840
meetings now we're capped out at 10 10

02:06:28.880 --> 02:06:30.776
members of the public can speak at each.

02:06:30.800 --> 02:06:33.336
 if we were cons to consolidate the

02:06:33.360 --> 02:06:35.256
two lists of agenda items we'd be

02:06:35.280 --> 02:06:37.896
potentially losing out on 10 silencing

02:06:37.920 --> 02:06:40.296
10 members of the public. It's a rare

02:06:40.320 --> 02:06:42.055
occurrence but these rules are in place

02:06:42.079 --> 02:06:43.816
for when those occurrences take place.

02:06:43.840 --> 02:06:45.095
So, if we're going to have longer

02:06:45.119 --> 02:06:47.256
meetings, regardless of monthly or 3-w

02:06:47.280 --> 02:06:49.095
weekly, I think we need to change our

02:06:49.119 --> 02:06:51.736
rules to allow a greater number of

02:06:51.760 --> 02:06:54.615
people to speak. So, increasing from 10

02:06:54.639 --> 02:06:56.856
people speaking to 15, I think, is a

02:06:56.880 --> 02:06:58.536
good compromise. It's still a bit of a

02:06:58.560 --> 02:07:01.560
loss to the public voice. Um, and

02:07:01.840 --> 02:07:03.976
there's some information there that

02:07:04.000 --> 02:07:05.736
three speakers per item, and there's

02:07:05.760 --> 02:07:07.575
discretion to change that up to a

02:07:07.599 --> 02:07:10.376
maximum limit currently of 10 people. If

02:07:10.400 --> 02:07:11.896
we're having fewer meetings, I think we

02:07:11.920 --> 02:07:14.055
need to increase that to 15 people.

02:07:14.079 --> 02:07:15.896
There's a process involved to make that

02:07:15.920 --> 02:07:17.655
change involving consultation. That's

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what's listed there.

02:07:23.599 --> 02:07:25.416
Thank you, Councelor Griffith. Deputy

02:07:25.440 --> 02:07:26.776
Mayor,

02:07:26.800 --> 02:07:29.800
thank you very much, Mayor. Um so Mayor

02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:32.456
you, myself, councelor Stennet and

02:07:32.480 --> 02:07:35.480
councelor Barker started  with one

02:07:35.599 --> 02:07:38.599
meeting per month and it was changed

02:07:39.440 --> 02:07:42.440
after about five years I think. Um what

02:07:43.280 --> 02:07:45.976
what it has done is to having our two

02:07:46.000 --> 02:07:48.215
meetings per month. We then have two

02:07:48.239 --> 02:07:51.239
briefings for those two meetings and all

02:07:51.360 --> 02:07:54.360
up this year we've had or will have 46

02:07:56.239 --> 02:07:59.239
out of um basically 52 weeks where we've

02:07:59.520 --> 02:08:02.520
had a meeting or a briefing. Now some of

02:08:02.639 --> 02:08:05.639
those meetings as council um Simpson I

02:08:06.159 --> 02:08:08.296
beg you pardon Griffiths said don't

02:08:08.320 --> 02:08:10.055
don't go very long the ordinary council

02:08:10.079 --> 02:08:13.079
meetings. Um, and I I agree that I think

02:08:13.679 --> 02:08:16.215
that we could be doing this smarter.

02:08:16.239 --> 02:08:19.239
Now, this is not that we're going out on

02:08:19.679 --> 02:08:22.615
this alone because Marunda, Manningham,

02:08:22.639 --> 02:08:25.639
and me all have one meeting per month.

02:08:26.880 --> 02:08:29.880
So, let's just keep that in mind. Um the

02:08:30.800 --> 02:08:33.496
the the issue is also is is constantly

02:08:33.520 --> 02:08:36.520
being on and you know you don't have any

02:08:36.719 --> 02:08:39.496
time to just think more strategically

02:08:39.520 --> 02:08:41.896
about things or perhaps you do but it

02:08:41.920 --> 02:08:44.920
can be with consistently reading items

02:08:46.320 --> 02:08:49.320
responding to many many um consultations

02:08:49.440 --> 02:08:51.976
that counselors do. It can be it can be

02:08:52.000 --> 02:08:55.000
a lot. I do suggest that um when we

02:08:56.320 --> 02:08:59.016
actually have one, I think there was

02:08:59.040 --> 02:09:01.016
only one instance and councelor Stennet

02:09:01.040 --> 02:09:03.175
and the Mayor might correct me. One

02:09:03.199 --> 02:09:05.016
instance where we actually had to call

02:09:05.040 --> 02:09:06.536
an extraordinary council meeting where

02:09:06.560 --> 02:09:08.215
we had unfinished business because at

02:09:08.239 --> 02:09:10.135
that stage we had rules that we had to

02:09:10.159 --> 02:09:12.296
finish as a certain time that we allowed

02:09:12.320 --> 02:09:13.896
to go an extra half an hour and then we

02:09:13.920 --> 02:09:15.896
got to 11:00 and that was it. So I only

02:09:15.920 --> 02:09:17.816
think there was one issue there. We also

02:09:17.840 --> 02:09:20.296
when we had the one council meeting per

02:09:20.320 --> 02:09:22.376
um month, we also had something called

02:09:22.400 --> 02:09:23.736
the special council meeting which

02:09:23.760 --> 02:09:25.896
allowed people to come to make

02:09:25.920 --> 02:09:28.215
presentations to council. Well, many

02:09:28.239 --> 02:09:31.095
times Mayor and councelor Stennet, we

02:09:31.119 --> 02:09:33.976
opened that meeting only to then close

02:09:34.000 --> 02:09:36.536
it with no speakers as well. So, so I

02:09:36.560 --> 02:09:38.296
think what we've got here is with going

02:09:38.320 --> 02:09:40.215
from 10 to 15 is something that I

02:09:40.239 --> 02:09:42.135
certainly support given that we'll be

02:09:42.159 --> 02:09:44.536
dropping from the ability for 10 people

02:09:44.560 --> 02:09:46.376
to speak at one meeting and 10 at

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another. Um I fully support this. I

02:09:49.360 --> 02:09:51.896
think that um this is a good decision.

02:09:51.920 --> 02:09:54.695
It means that we can have some time on

02:09:54.719 --> 02:09:56.135
Mondays where we can focus on

02:09:56.159 --> 02:09:58.376
professional development which is really

02:09:58.400 --> 02:09:59.976
important and that we can do that

02:10:00.000 --> 02:10:02.695
together um and have the briefings um

02:10:02.719 --> 02:10:04.376
coordinated on the month rather than on

02:10:04.400 --> 02:10:06.376
a Wednesday or Thursday which is which

02:10:06.400 --> 02:10:07.896
is often happening now. So it's

02:10:07.920 --> 02:10:10.776
difficult with people's very busy lives

02:10:10.800 --> 02:10:13.016
um but I I certainly concur that this is

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something that I would definitely

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support. Thank you Mayor.

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Are there any further speakers to the

02:10:17.360 --> 02:10:17.736
motion?

02:10:17.760 --> 02:10:18.536
Yes ma'am.

02:10:18.560 --> 02:10:21.416
Councelor Stennet. Um I don't agree with

02:10:21.440 --> 02:10:23.655
this alternative. I I would prefer to go

02:10:23.679 --> 02:10:26.296
with a substantive motion. Um I have

02:10:26.320 --> 02:10:28.776
been long ran long enough to to remember

02:10:28.800 --> 02:10:31.416
when we had one meeting um month and

02:10:31.440 --> 02:10:33.575
they were very long meetings because we

02:10:33.599 --> 02:10:36.376
had a lot to get in um one meeting. Um

02:10:36.400 --> 02:10:39.256
some of our meetings went as late as

02:10:39.280 --> 02:10:42.280
councelor cut said 11:00 11:30 um or

02:10:43.119 --> 02:10:46.119
later. Now, I'm not sure about you, but

02:10:46.400 --> 02:10:49.400
I mean I after particularly for those

02:10:49.920 --> 02:10:52.920
people work full-time, um he might be up

02:10:53.280 --> 02:10:54.695
6:00 to 7:00 in the morning working all

02:10:54.719 --> 02:10:57.575
day, come to a council meeting. Um I'm

02:10:57.599 --> 02:10:59.575
not sure

02:10:59.599 --> 02:11:01.496
um

02:11:01.520 --> 02:11:04.296
when we're charged with making good

02:11:04.320 --> 02:11:06.456
responsible decisions that require clear

02:11:06.480 --> 02:11:09.480
thought that making decisions at 9:30,

02:11:10.400 --> 02:11:13.400
10:00, 11:00 necessarily leads to great

02:11:14.560 --> 02:11:16.856
clear thought and decision- making. I

02:11:16.880 --> 02:11:18.695
think um there's an element of fatigue

02:11:18.719 --> 02:11:20.536
and wanting to get through the meeting

02:11:20.560 --> 02:11:22.456
quickly and I did see that on some

02:11:22.480 --> 02:11:25.480
occasions um where

02:11:25.760 --> 02:11:27.575
um I thought some of the debate some of

02:11:27.599 --> 02:11:30.599
the decision making was poor to be frank

02:11:32.639 --> 02:11:34.135
um and I think a lot of that had to do

02:11:34.159 --> 02:11:35.976
with just a desire to get out of the

02:11:36.000 --> 02:11:38.055
building before midnight.

02:11:38.079 --> 02:11:41.079
um our role has changed over a number of

02:11:42.320 --> 02:11:45.320
years and decades where we have got a

02:11:45.920 --> 02:11:48.215
lot on our agenda a lot on plate a lot

02:11:48.239 --> 02:11:51.239
to consider and I think although none of

02:11:51.440 --> 02:11:52.936
us probably want to be here every Monday

02:11:52.960 --> 02:11:55.736
night um you know we're elected we're

02:11:55.760 --> 02:11:58.760
responsible to do a job and we knew what

02:11:59.520 --> 02:12:02.520
we're signing up for to be honest and I

02:12:02.880 --> 02:12:04.536
knew that every Monday night there'd be

02:12:04.560 --> 02:12:06.055
something on just about and that's what

02:12:06.079 --> 02:12:09.079
the expectation was and um more frequent

02:12:10.639 --> 02:12:13.256
meetings to be honest has resulted in

02:12:13.280 --> 02:12:16.280
shorter meetings. Um

02:12:16.560 --> 02:12:19.496
and I think that's for short sharp

02:12:19.520 --> 02:12:22.520
meetings with a purpose leads to better

02:12:22.880 --> 02:12:25.016
decision making.  we're also more

02:12:25.040 --> 02:12:27.416
responsive. I remember when there issues

02:12:27.440 --> 02:12:29.095
um for example the state government

02:12:29.119 --> 02:12:31.336
might come out at the last minute say

02:12:31.360 --> 02:12:33.575
councils you've got two weeks to respond

02:12:33.599 --> 02:12:36.296
to this submission. Well, we've just had

02:12:36.320 --> 02:12:37.896
an ordinary council meeting. We've got

02:12:37.920 --> 02:12:40.135
wait another month. Um, we can't really

02:12:40.159 --> 02:12:42.776
respond in that time, can we? So, having

02:12:42.800 --> 02:12:45.496
more frequent meetings  means we're

02:12:45.520 --> 02:12:47.896
more responsive where we deal with

02:12:47.920 --> 02:12:49.896
issues in a timely manner. So, I think

02:12:49.920 --> 02:12:52.776
for a number of reasons, I'd prefer um

02:12:52.800 --> 02:12:55.736
not to support this at this time.  but

02:12:55.760 --> 02:12:58.760
support substantive. Thank you, Mayor.

02:12:59.920 --> 02:13:01.655
Councelor Dennard, I've heard that you

02:13:01.679 --> 02:13:03.736
said you wanted to support the

02:13:03.760 --> 02:13:05.736
substantive. Are you foreshadowing that

02:13:05.760 --> 02:13:08.055
you'd move the substantive if this is

02:13:08.079 --> 02:13:09.175
defeated?

02:13:09.199 --> 02:13:11.095
 yeah, Mayor Happy to move.

02:13:11.119 --> 02:13:13.016
Thank you. I was just asking that for

02:13:13.040 --> 02:13:15.336
clarification. I'll now move to a

02:13:15.360 --> 02:13:16.296
further speaker.

02:13:16.320 --> 02:13:17.016
Yes, Mayor.

02:13:17.040 --> 02:13:18.055
Councelor Simpson.

02:13:18.079 --> 02:13:20.615
Thank you, Mayor. Um and I too will be

02:13:20.639 --> 02:13:22.055
foreshadowing the substantive if

02:13:22.079 --> 02:13:24.695
councelor Senate decides not to move it.

02:13:24.719 --> 02:13:26.615
um because I agree with a lot of the

02:13:26.639 --> 02:13:29.256
points and in fact he took um a couple

02:13:29.280 --> 02:13:31.575
right out of my brain um at this at the

02:13:31.599 --> 02:13:33.416
time he was speaking and that a lot of

02:13:33.440 --> 02:13:35.175
that has to do with the balancing act

02:13:35.199 --> 02:13:37.416
between having the ability for the

02:13:37.440 --> 02:13:39.416
community to engage with us um versus

02:13:39.440 --> 02:13:41.256
managing the workload and I've heard

02:13:41.280 --> 02:13:42.936
what councelor cuts and and councelor

02:13:42.960 --> 02:13:45.336
Griffiths have said regarding that

02:13:45.360 --> 02:13:48.135
balance and I think that the 3-we option

02:13:48.159 --> 02:13:49.736
as as per the original or the

02:13:49.760 --> 02:13:51.896
recommended option in the agenda strikes

02:13:51.920 --> 02:13:54.920
that balance um you it as as councelor

02:13:55.280 --> 02:13:56.936
Griff has said yes sometimes briefings

02:13:56.960 --> 02:13:58.776
do go for very long but with that extra

02:13:58.800 --> 02:14:00.695
week we can look at scheduling we can

02:14:00.719 --> 02:14:03.016
split it out that we do have um options

02:14:03.040 --> 02:14:06.040
available to us um I agree with some of

02:14:06.400 --> 02:14:08.135
the commentary that councelor Stennet

02:14:08.159 --> 02:14:09.976
has made having been in organizations

02:14:10.000 --> 02:14:11.976
where you do only have say a once a

02:14:12.000 --> 02:14:13.655
month meeting or something like that it

02:14:13.679 --> 02:14:15.976
gets very concentrated on that one date

02:14:16.000 --> 02:14:18.215
and also if if one of us happens to miss

02:14:18.239 --> 02:14:20.055
that date due to illness or another

02:14:20.079 --> 02:14:21.976
commitment or another responsibility we

02:14:22.000 --> 02:14:24.296
are unfortunately disenfranchising the

02:14:24.320 --> 02:14:25.976
residents that elected us because we're

02:14:26.000 --> 02:14:27.496
not here for that month and that means

02:14:27.520 --> 02:14:28.776
they've got to wait potentially two

02:14:28.800 --> 02:14:30.936
months um to have their representative

02:14:30.960 --> 02:14:33.655
back in the chamber. Whereas a a shorter

02:14:33.679 --> 02:14:35.976
schedule um does eliminate some of that

02:14:36.000 --> 02:14:38.536
risk. There's other practical factors

02:14:38.560 --> 02:14:41.095
involved counselors such as costs um to

02:14:41.119 --> 02:14:44.119
run those to run the meetings um as well

02:14:44.719 --> 02:14:47.095
as the fact that um as councelor Senate

02:14:47.119 --> 02:14:48.456
has already outlined it's about

02:14:48.480 --> 02:14:50.536
responding to change. Um, for example,

02:14:50.560 --> 02:14:52.055
in my community, we have the Blackburn

02:14:52.079 --> 02:14:53.976
Activity Center coming that's a hot

02:14:54.000 --> 02:14:55.896
topic item. I want to be able to respond

02:14:55.920 --> 02:14:58.920
as fast as possible um in this place 

02:14:59.199 --> 02:15:02.055
on behalf of my residents um as required

02:15:02.079 --> 02:15:04.296
in dealing with that item. And I'm sure

02:15:04.320 --> 02:15:06.215
counselors with other activity centers

02:15:06.239 --> 02:15:08.856
or the SRL or whatever in your areas,

02:15:08.880 --> 02:15:10.776
you feel potentially exactly the same

02:15:10.800 --> 02:15:13.800
way. Um the original option in the in

02:15:14.159 --> 02:15:16.615
the agenda counselors also gives us that

02:15:16.639 --> 02:15:18.776
um extra time for personal development

02:15:18.800 --> 02:15:20.936
with a fortnightly cycle. We haven't

02:15:20.960 --> 02:15:22.776
really had a lot of that time. Um a

02:15:22.800 --> 02:15:25.175
monthly cycle is too long. 3 weeks kind

02:15:25.199 --> 02:15:28.135
of allows us to meet the sweet spot. Um

02:15:28.159 --> 02:15:30.776
with regards to both our legally

02:15:30.800 --> 02:15:32.695
mandated mandatory training that we have

02:15:32.719 --> 02:15:34.055
under the local government act, but then

02:15:34.079 --> 02:15:35.976
also any extra training that we might

02:15:36.000 --> 02:15:39.000
want to take to better um equip us to

02:15:39.199 --> 02:15:41.416
serve our communities in this role. And

02:15:41.440 --> 02:15:43.016
finally, I just want to quickly touch on

02:15:43.040 --> 02:15:45.016
disenfranchising people. I of course

02:15:45.040 --> 02:15:47.175
want to infranchise people who want to

02:15:47.199 --> 02:15:49.416
seek public office. But you have to

02:15:49.440 --> 02:15:51.575
understand the choices that you make and

02:15:51.599 --> 02:15:53.496
that that means sacrifice. I had a

02:15:53.520 --> 02:15:55.336
regular monthly commitment that I gave

02:15:55.360 --> 02:15:57.896
up personally. Um and I did that going

02:15:57.920 --> 02:15:59.896
in knowing what I was getting myself in

02:15:59.920 --> 02:16:02.376
for. And therefore, I think that if

02:16:02.400 --> 02:16:04.695
people do want to seek public office, it

02:16:04.719 --> 02:16:07.336
is a rewarding, rich experience serving

02:16:07.360 --> 02:16:09.816
your community, but there is a cost and

02:16:09.840 --> 02:16:10.936
that's just something you're going to

02:16:10.960 --> 02:16:13.256
have to accept.

02:16:13.280 --> 02:16:14.856
Are there any further speakers to the

02:16:14.880 --> 02:16:16.376
motion?

02:16:16.400 --> 02:16:18.376
There being no further speakers, I'll

02:16:18.400 --> 02:16:21.400
now call for a writer reply from Council

02:16:21.520 --> 02:16:22.936
Griffith.

02:16:22.960 --> 02:16:25.960
Thanks, Mayor.

02:16:26.560 --> 02:16:28.536
I've listened carefully to some of the

02:16:28.560 --> 02:16:31.560
feedback and 

02:16:32.719 --> 02:16:35.256
my perception of this is that I will

02:16:35.280 --> 02:16:37.896
still be here every Monday.

02:16:37.920 --> 02:16:40.920
 instead of late into the night on a

02:16:41.840 --> 02:16:44.840
briefing night, there might be

02:16:44.960 --> 02:16:47.176
I I will be there not so long because

02:16:47.200 --> 02:16:48.856
we'll have more briefings and I'll be

02:16:48.880 --> 02:16:51.256
here slightly later on a council meeting

02:16:51.280 --> 02:16:53.096
night.

02:16:53.120 --> 02:16:55.096
My observation is that long council

02:16:55.120 --> 02:16:57.816
agendas are more efficient. 14 items

02:16:57.840 --> 02:16:59.495
we've raced through tonight. When we've

02:16:59.519 --> 02:17:02.136
had two things on the agenda, everyone

02:17:02.160 --> 02:17:04.375
wants to speak. It's very inefficient.

02:17:04.399 --> 02:17:06.615
Every meeting comes with a cost.

02:17:06.639 --> 02:17:09.415
Although I recognize that having one

02:17:09.439 --> 02:17:11.256
longer meeting is probably a relatively

02:17:11.280 --> 02:17:13.655
small costsaving. I think it has been

02:17:13.679 --> 02:17:15.575
important that we had regular meetings

02:17:15.599 --> 02:17:17.016
during the first year of the council

02:17:17.040 --> 02:17:20.040
term. We had a lot of um a lot of

02:17:20.559 --> 02:17:22.455
briefings too to send out our council

02:17:22.479 --> 02:17:25.479
plan and to induct really myself and the

02:17:25.840 --> 02:17:28.840
other new counselors.

02:17:29.599 --> 02:17:32.599
Um I I'm supportive of an approach that

02:17:34.080 --> 02:17:36.695
increases from the current two- weekly

02:17:36.719 --> 02:17:39.719
 option and I'm hearing that

02:17:40.240 --> 02:17:41.896
echoed  throughout the other

02:17:41.920 --> 02:17:43.655
counselors.

02:17:43.679 --> 02:17:46.136
Um I I recognize this is a tough cell.

02:17:46.160 --> 02:17:48.375
It looks like I'm asking less meetings,

02:17:48.399 --> 02:17:50.455
counselors do less work. That's not what

02:17:50.479 --> 02:17:52.695
I'm asking. I'm asking to be more

02:17:52.719 --> 02:17:55.256
informed, have greater opportunity for

02:17:55.280 --> 02:17:57.415
briefings that don't go quite so late in

02:17:57.439 --> 02:18:00.056
the night. Um because those are really

02:18:00.080 --> 02:18:02.455
important part of how we operate, what

02:18:02.479 --> 02:18:04.216
happens in the chamber. People turn up,

02:18:04.240 --> 02:18:06.295
they're disenfranchised. They think

02:18:06.319 --> 02:18:09.256
everything looks scripted. There's the

02:18:09.280 --> 02:18:10.776
debate doesn't quite look like it does

02:18:10.800 --> 02:18:13.800
in state government, for example. is the

02:18:13.920 --> 02:18:15.896
briefing is a really important place for

02:18:15.920 --> 02:18:18.695
us to shape the council strategic

02:18:18.719 --> 02:18:20.216
direction.

02:18:20.240 --> 02:18:22.856
Um, and I'm keen to allocate more time

02:18:22.880 --> 02:18:24.056
to that.

02:18:24.080 --> 02:18:26.136
Thank you, councelor Griffith. I'll now

02:18:26.160 --> 02:18:28.776
put the motion. Those in favor, deputy

02:18:28.800 --> 02:18:31.655
Mayor cuts, councelor Griffith against

02:18:31.679 --> 02:18:33.736
council Weller, councelor Simpson,

02:18:33.760 --> 02:18:35.896
councelor Gun, councelor Davenport,

02:18:35.920 --> 02:18:37.896
Council Langford, councelor Stennet,

02:18:37.920 --> 02:18:40.856
councel Martin's defeated. I have had

02:18:40.880 --> 02:18:42.936
commentary about foreshadowing. I will

02:18:42.960 --> 02:18:45.256
now put the substantive. Yeah, I will

02:18:45.280 --> 02:18:47.736
now ask for a mover for the substantive.

02:18:47.760 --> 02:18:48.695
I seek a mover.

02:18:48.719 --> 02:18:49.495
Happy to move, Mayor.

02:18:49.519 --> 02:18:51.335
Councelor Simpson, I seek a second.

02:18:51.359 --> 02:18:52.295
Happy to second, Mayor.

02:18:52.319 --> 02:18:54.136
Councelor Stennick. Councelor Simpson.

02:18:54.160 --> 02:18:55.655
Thank you, Mayor. And I'm glad we're not

02:18:55.679 --> 02:18:56.936
like Parliament because we're not

02:18:56.960 --> 02:18:58.776
hurling abuse across the chamber at each

02:18:58.800 --> 02:19:00.936
other. We're actually we as a council

02:19:00.960 --> 02:19:03.016
group, we are working quite well, even

02:19:03.040 --> 02:19:05.816
though we have often at times quite um

02:19:05.840 --> 02:19:08.375
at opposite views on different issues.

02:19:08.399 --> 02:19:10.216
So, I'm actually very thankful for that.

02:19:10.240 --> 02:19:12.375
But the the question before us is to do

02:19:12.399 --> 02:19:13.736
with our meeting dates and we've already

02:19:13.760 --> 02:19:16.136
had a lot of debate about that um

02:19:16.160 --> 02:19:18.056
already councilors. But as noted in the

02:19:18.080 --> 02:19:20.455
report, moving to a 3-w weekly council

02:19:20.479 --> 02:19:22.856
meeting cycle as opposed to other

02:19:22.880 --> 02:19:25.880
options um does give us sufficient time

02:19:26.000 --> 02:19:28.776
to have um briefings  the actual

02:19:28.800 --> 02:19:30.695
public meetings and also professional

02:19:30.719 --> 02:19:33.256
development. And as I alluded to in my

02:19:33.280 --> 02:19:36.280
speech previously, there is um mandated

02:19:36.319 --> 02:19:37.736
training that is required of all

02:19:37.760 --> 02:19:39.176
counselors under the Local Government

02:19:39.200 --> 02:19:41.415
Act 2020. And one of the questions I

02:19:41.439 --> 02:19:43.335
actually had to myself um a few weeks

02:19:43.359 --> 02:19:44.856
ago was how are we going to fit that in

02:19:44.880 --> 02:19:47.736
next year? So I'm um grateful for this

02:19:47.760 --> 02:19:49.576
option that is before us so that we can

02:19:49.600 --> 02:19:50.936
try to balance not only our

02:19:50.960 --> 02:19:52.856
responsibilities as elected officials

02:19:52.880 --> 02:19:54.536
but also our other responsibilities such

02:19:54.560 --> 02:19:56.455
as full-time work or perhaps caring

02:19:56.479 --> 02:19:58.936
responsibilities as well. So on the

02:19:58.960 --> 02:20:01.960
whole councilers I um I  support the

02:20:02.880 --> 02:20:04.375
motion that's before us and I encourage

02:20:04.399 --> 02:20:07.256
you to do the same um so that we can 

02:20:07.280 --> 02:20:09.016
become a more collegiate group going

02:20:09.040 --> 02:20:10.616
forwards even more so perhaps than we

02:20:10.640 --> 02:20:11.976
are now.

02:20:12.000 --> 02:20:13.256
Councelor Stennet.

02:20:13.280 --> 02:20:15.415
Um thank you Mayor. I fully support

02:20:15.439 --> 02:20:18.439
councelor Simpson's comments and noting

02:20:18.720 --> 02:20:20.136
you know all the different options and

02:20:20.160 --> 02:20:22.536
permutations that we come up with. Um I

02:20:22.560 --> 02:20:23.976
don't think any single option would

02:20:24.000 --> 02:20:27.000
necessarily suit everyone perfectly. Um

02:20:27.280 --> 02:20:29.896
but I do know um comments around the

02:20:29.920 --> 02:20:31.256
briefings and something I just thought

02:20:31.280 --> 02:20:33.496
of was um something we've been doing

02:20:33.520 --> 02:20:36.520
more often which I think is good um is

02:20:37.200 --> 02:20:39.256
um not necessarily having a formal

02:20:39.280 --> 02:20:41.816
meeting to have information disseminated

02:20:41.840 --> 02:20:44.696
to councilors. It's um there have been

02:20:44.720 --> 02:20:47.720
for example um online briefings um on

02:20:48.560 --> 02:20:50.856
particular matters optional briefings if

02:20:50.880 --> 02:20:52.776
councilors want to join about particular

02:20:52.800 --> 02:20:54.375
matter of interest to them in the award

02:20:54.399 --> 02:20:57.399
or um other other matters. The council

02:20:58.080 --> 02:21:01.080
officers have been very um helpful in

02:21:02.240 --> 02:21:05.240
running um these briefings at more

02:21:05.840 --> 02:21:08.840
convenient times and online. um brave

02:21:09.359 --> 02:21:11.415
new world we live in postco  that we

02:21:11.439 --> 02:21:14.439
can do these things. Um but um I think

02:21:14.479 --> 02:21:17.479
that that sort of um helps um when there

02:21:19.439 --> 02:21:20.696
are some issues that we all need to sit

02:21:20.720 --> 02:21:22.295
in the room and talk with council

02:21:22.319 --> 02:21:24.056
officers altogether and there are some

02:21:24.080 --> 02:21:25.976
matters which it might just be for

02:21:26.000 --> 02:21:28.455
information and um some people may

02:21:28.479 --> 02:21:31.176
already know um that information. they

02:21:31.200 --> 02:21:33.176
may not um necessarily need to have

02:21:33.200 --> 02:21:35.576
additional briefings or some people um

02:21:35.600 --> 02:21:37.816
there might be additional briefing times

02:21:37.840 --> 02:21:40.056
that have been helpful. Um and I I think

02:21:40.080 --> 02:21:42.295
that that sort of alleviates the need um

02:21:42.319 --> 02:21:44.696
to to overload briefing nights sometimes

02:21:44.720 --> 02:21:47.256
which is which has been helpful. But um

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coming back to the meeting nights um

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really comes back to me more frequent

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meetings um means we can cover the same

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amount

02:21:56.240 --> 02:21:59.240
um over the year but um have shorter

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meetings and I think have a greater

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focus for those meetings and make better

02:22:03.920 --> 02:22:05.976
decisions. Thank you ma'am.

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Are there any further speakers to the

02:22:07.600 --> 02:22:07.976
motion?

02:22:08.000 --> 02:22:09.496
Yes ma'am. I have an amendment.

02:22:09.520 --> 02:22:11.816
An amendment from councelor Gun. What is

02:22:11.840 --> 02:22:12.455
your amendment?

02:22:12.479 --> 02:22:14.776
My amendment is item three from

02:22:14.800 --> 02:22:17.016
councelor Griffith's original motion

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which was the increase of opportunities

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for increasing our residents to speak at

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a council meeting from 10 to 15 and

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increasing at chair's discretion um the

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number of item people that can speak to

02:22:30.800 --> 02:22:33.656
items.

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I'm going to ask a mover. Is that

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amendment acceptable to you? I'd like a

02:22:38.160 --> 02:22:39.736
debate. So, no.

02:22:39.760 --> 02:22:41.256
Okay. Is there a second to the

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amendment?

02:22:42.880 --> 02:22:43.736
No. Second.

02:22:43.760 --> 02:22:44.455
I'll second it.

02:22:44.479 --> 02:22:46.375
Councelor Langford seconded. Councelor

02:22:46.399 --> 02:22:47.256
Gun.

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Thank you, Mayor. I think  Council

02:22:49.200 --> 02:22:50.696
Griffith raised an excellent point

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earlier where we are moving to fewer

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meetings and with moving, if this motion

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passes, I should say,  we are moving

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to fewer meetings and with that comes

02:22:59.200 --> 02:23:01.016
fewer opportunities for residents to

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speak to council directly. I think

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council Griffith raised an excellent

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point in terms of increasing the number

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of opportun increasing the the  number

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of items for people to speak to as well

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as increasing the number of speakers at

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a council meeting from 10 increasing

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that limit to 15  which would increase

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the time frame roughly at a maximum from

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30 to 45 minutes for speakers at a

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council meeting. I think that is a

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worthwhile  use of our time on council

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meetings. We are if this passes we are

02:23:33.760 --> 02:23:36.760
moving from  two months of the year

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where we only have one meeting per month

02:23:40.080 --> 02:23:43.016
or fewer. This is now moving to five

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months of the year where we'll have

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either one meeting or fewer. No meetings

02:23:46.399 --> 02:23:49.176
in January. I think we need to be

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hearing from our residents. I think the

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most we work our best when we're hearing

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from our residents and that was

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exemplified this evening with the

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speakers that we had earlier.  I I

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just think it's  worth investigating

02:24:00.399 --> 02:24:03.399
to have that increase  from 10 to 15

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speakers at a meeting.

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Council Langford,

02:24:08.800 --> 02:24:10.375
I concur with everything you say,

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Councelor Gun, I think it's really

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important that we listen to our

02:24:13.439 --> 02:24:15.096
community and give the community the

02:24:15.120 --> 02:24:17.656
opportunity to speak. And by doing this,

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if we go to a 3-weekly cycle, we're

02:24:19.840 --> 02:24:21.016
giving them the same number of

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opportunities to speak. And it's unusual

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to get 10 speakers in a meeting. That's

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um I don't think I've been to a single

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meeting myself where we've had 10

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speakers. Um but tonight we had three

02:24:31.760 --> 02:24:34.760
speakers who certainly um talked to us

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about how important um Box Hill Brick

02:24:36.800 --> 02:24:39.496
Works Parklands were. And then we also

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had another person who'd spoken

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previously who um we had listened to and

02:24:44.560 --> 02:24:46.136
then resulted in an amendment to one of

02:24:46.160 --> 02:24:47.736
our motions. So I think it's important

02:24:47.760 --> 02:24:49.816
to give people the same number of

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opportunities as we drop from a two week

02:24:52.319 --> 02:24:55.319
to a 3-we cycle. I commend um your

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amendment council.

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Are there any speakers to the amendment?

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Yes, Mayor.

02:25:00.160 --> 02:25:02.136
Councelor Griffith.

02:25:02.160 --> 02:25:04.216
 councilors, if we don't make these

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thing two things are inherently

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interconnected, the meeting schedule and

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how many people can speak assuming we

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have the same number of agenda items

02:25:12.960 --> 02:25:15.896
throughout the year. Um we I remember

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having 10 um requests to speak up on one

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occasion at least. It only takes a few

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controversial or popular items for that

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to happen. If the fewer meetings mean

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there's more agenda items, we should

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allow the public, you know, an

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equivalent or increase their voice. If

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we don't make this change, we're

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weakening what the community community's

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engagement in in our process.

02:25:42.240 --> 02:25:43.816
I don't stand for weakening the

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community's voice. And that's exactly

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what it'll be if we don't make this

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change. I recognize they're two

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different things. meeting schedule and

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governance rules, but they they both

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affect each other and we should be

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giving a community a stronger voice in

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 in in council agenda items and other

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things they come to speak to as well.

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I'm supportive of this um extra point.

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Are there any further speakers?

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 yes may just briefly um whilst the

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sentiment is good I prefer to wait until

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the state government releases the model

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governance rules later this year before

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we amend ours now. Thank you.

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Are there any further speakers to the

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amendment?

02:26:25.680 --> 02:26:26.696
I have a question may

02:26:26.720 --> 02:26:27.496
question from council.

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Two questions actually.

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The first is as noted in here it says

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undertake engagement. Um I'm wondering

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what level of engagement is required and

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how that will what what that would look

02:26:37.439 --> 02:26:39.096
like. I ask the CEO to answer the

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question.

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Ask the manager.

02:26:42.160 --> 02:26:44.136
Ask the manager of government governance

02:26:44.160 --> 02:26:45.496
to answer the question

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through you, Mayor. We'll undertake it

02:26:46.960 --> 02:26:49.496
in in accordance with um what the act

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requires as well as our engagement

02:26:51.280 --> 02:26:52.776
policy. So, we'll have to do that

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assessment.

02:26:54.720 --> 02:26:55.736
Question number two.

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Thank you, Mayor. Um just following on

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from what council said about the state

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government um currently developing their

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the model governance rules for councils.

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What is the risk to us if we adopt this

02:27:05.200 --> 02:27:06.776
and then that conflicts with something

02:27:06.800 --> 02:27:09.176
that comes out in those rules?

02:27:09.200 --> 02:27:10.696
 CEO

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through you may um yet to reveal exactly

02:27:13.600 --> 02:27:15.176
what the model governance rules will

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will will um require of us but if they

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are mandatory rules we will have to

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comply. So any any decision we make

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tonight would have to be altered as a

02:27:25.200 --> 02:27:27.335
result of the model rules. Thank you.

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I have a question Mayor.

02:27:29.280 --> 02:27:30.776
Further question has been raised.

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Council Griffith,

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is it possible for them to be mandatory

02:27:33.920 --> 02:27:35.656
if the local government act allow

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council to amend  their governance

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rules as an individual line item in the

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local government act?

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CEO through you may look to be honest I

02:27:47.520 --> 02:27:50.455
can't answer that because I need to one

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would argue well one would state that if

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they're mandatory governance rules then

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there will be no iteration of change by

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any council. So in other words, we will

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not be able to alter. But as I said

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earlier, there's there's still some

02:28:04.399 --> 02:28:07.176
debate I believe about mandatory versus

02:28:07.200 --> 02:28:08.776
otherwise, but we haven't received any

02:28:08.800 --> 02:28:10.616
indication from the department. But if

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they are mandatory, my advice would be

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at this stage that we will not be able

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to alter um the the rules.

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Are there any further um speakers to the

02:28:22.000 --> 02:28:22.455
amendment?

02:28:22.479 --> 02:28:23.176
Yes, Mayor.

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Councelor Simpson.

02:28:24.399 --> 02:28:27.096
Thank you, Mayor. Um I fully appreciate

02:28:27.120 --> 02:28:29.256
and even support the spirit in which

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this amendment has been brought. Um I

02:28:31.520 --> 02:28:33.976
fully support infranchising um the

02:28:34.000 --> 02:28:37.000
public to come and speak to us. Um but

02:28:37.439 --> 02:28:40.439
given we haven't even seen the 10 person

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rules um repeatedly capped out. Um, I

02:28:45.920 --> 02:28:47.335
don't see the need for this change at

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this time given that it may potentially

02:28:49.600 --> 02:28:52.600
lead us to have a conflict um after the

02:28:53.040 --> 02:28:54.455
state government releases its model

02:28:54.479 --> 02:28:57.096
governance rules. Um, and given that

02:28:57.120 --> 02:28:59.496
this is for 2026, we've still got some

02:28:59.520 --> 02:29:01.736
time up our sleeves. So, if for example,

02:29:01.760 --> 02:29:04.455
we get to next year and we decide that

02:29:04.479 --> 02:29:06.696
we do want to increase the limit, um,

02:29:06.720 --> 02:29:08.295
there's no nothing stopping us

02:29:08.319 --> 02:29:10.455
potentially from doing it then. So I

02:29:10.479 --> 02:29:12.136
think councilors that perhaps airing on

02:29:12.160 --> 02:29:13.896
the side of caution is better under this

02:29:13.920 --> 02:29:16.295
circumstance and um we think about it

02:29:16.319 --> 02:29:18.136
next year.

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Are there any further speakers to the

02:29:19.840 --> 02:29:22.696
amendment? No further speakers. There is

02:29:22.720 --> 02:29:25.496
no right of reply for an amendment.

02:29:25.520 --> 02:29:28.520
Um I will now put the amendment. Those

02:29:28.560 --> 02:29:31.560
in favor? Councelor Gun, Councel Deputy

02:29:32.800 --> 02:29:34.776
Mayor Cuts,

02:29:34.800 --> 02:29:37.335
Councelor Griffith, Council Langford

02:29:37.359 --> 02:29:40.359
against, Council Weller, Councelor

02:29:40.399 --> 02:29:43.399
Simpson, Councelor Davenport, Councelor

02:29:43.439 --> 02:29:46.439
Stennet, and Councelor Martin. I declare

02:29:47.200 --> 02:29:49.976
the amendment as lost. I'll return back

02:29:50.000 --> 02:29:51.816
to the substantive. Are there any

02:29:51.840 --> 02:29:53.816
further speakers?

02:29:53.840 --> 02:29:56.840
No further speakers. Um, I will now put

02:29:58.080 --> 02:30:01.080
the motion. Those in favor,

02:30:02.399 --> 02:30:04.776
it's carried unanimously.

02:30:04.800 --> 02:30:07.800
Um,

02:30:07.840 --> 02:30:10.840
item

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10.12.

02:30:13.280 --> 02:30:16.280
Happy to move, ma'am.

02:30:16.319 --> 02:30:17.896
What's that?

02:30:17.920 --> 02:30:19.736
Well, can you wait until I just read out

02:30:19.760 --> 02:30:22.760
the item? Item 10.12 proposed

02:30:23.040 --> 02:30:25.816
discontinuence on on sale of the road

02:30:25.840 --> 02:30:28.840
adjoining the side rear of 153 to 159

02:30:31.280 --> 02:30:33.816
Springville Road Nawading. I seek a

02:30:33.840 --> 02:30:34.696
mover.

02:30:34.720 --> 02:30:36.375
Happy to move your worship.

02:30:36.399 --> 02:30:39.399
Thank you councelor Stennet and a

02:30:40.160 --> 02:30:40.696
second.

02:30:40.720 --> 02:30:41.656
Happy to second Mayor.

02:30:41.680 --> 02:30:43.976
Councelor Simpson. Councelor Senate.

02:30:44.000 --> 02:30:45.896
Um thank you Mayor.  this evening

02:30:45.920 --> 02:30:47.176
we're considering the proposed

02:30:47.200 --> 02:30:49.256
discontinuence of the road at the rear

02:30:49.280 --> 02:30:52.280
and side of 153 to 159 Spring Brow Road.

02:30:52.399 --> 02:30:54.216
Another warning.  this is an issue

02:30:54.240 --> 02:30:56.696
that while it might appear procedural at

02:30:56.720 --> 02:30:58.776
first glance, it is in fact important

02:30:58.800 --> 02:31:00.776
because it goes to how we as council

02:31:00.800 --> 02:31:03.656
manage land, ensure transparency and act

02:31:03.680 --> 02:31:05.816
in the best interest of both our

02:31:05.840 --> 02:31:07.656
community and our city's future

02:31:07.680 --> 02:31:09.656
development. Let me begin with the

02:31:09.680 --> 02:31:12.136
process. A request was made by the owner

02:31:12.160 --> 02:31:14.616
of the adjoining properties asking

02:31:14.640 --> 02:31:16.936
council to discontinue this road. Our

02:31:16.960 --> 02:31:19.576
officers then undertook what only can be

02:31:19.600 --> 02:31:21.976
described as a thorough and transparent

02:31:22.000 --> 02:31:24.776
assessment. The preliminary consultation

02:31:24.800 --> 02:31:27.415
was held with the adjoining owner. Due

02:31:27.439 --> 02:31:28.856
diligence was carried out and it was

02:31:28.880 --> 02:31:30.696
confirmed there were no objections to

02:31:30.720 --> 02:31:32.936
the proposal. Following that, council

02:31:32.960 --> 02:31:35.256
commenced the statutory process required

02:31:35.280 --> 02:31:37.656
under the local government act. This

02:31:37.680 --> 02:31:39.496
included the publication of a public

02:31:39.520 --> 02:31:41.736
notice on council's website and in

02:31:41.760 --> 02:31:43.816
interest and transparency a courtesy

02:31:43.840 --> 02:31:46.840
publication in the age direct letters

02:31:46.960 --> 02:31:48.936
were sent to adjoining owners ensuring

02:31:48.960 --> 02:31:50.856
they were aware of the proposal and they

02:31:50.880 --> 02:31:53.736
had an opportunity to provide feedback.

02:31:53.760 --> 02:31:56.216
Utility providers were contacted valley

02:31:56.240 --> 02:31:58.375
water confirmed they held assets within

02:31:58.399 --> 02:32:01.399
the land. Their request for a 3.05 meter

02:32:01.520 --> 02:32:03.656
easement has been formally incorporated

02:32:03.680 --> 02:32:05.896
into this plan. The result of this

02:32:05.920 --> 02:32:07.576
thorough process, not a single

02:32:07.600 --> 02:32:10.375
objection. No adjoining owner raised a

02:32:10.399 --> 02:32:12.375
concern. No member of the concern made

02:32:12.399 --> 02:32:14.776
in submission. Not one utility or

02:32:14.800 --> 02:32:17.096
authority other than Yara Valley Water

02:32:17.120 --> 02:32:18.856
indicated any issue and their

02:32:18.880 --> 02:32:21.016
requirement has been fully addressed. In

02:32:21.040 --> 02:32:24.040
short, every single statutory obligation

02:32:24.160 --> 02:32:26.536
was met. Every opportunity for input was

02:32:26.560 --> 02:32:28.936
provided and the community response was

02:32:28.960 --> 02:32:30.616
silenced, indicating to me a broad

02:32:30.640 --> 02:32:32.616
acceptance that this road is no longer

02:32:32.640 --> 02:32:35.335
needed for public use. Why is it no

02:32:35.359 --> 02:32:37.976
longer required? Officers have carefully

02:32:38.000 --> 02:32:40.056
assessed this road against the three key

02:32:40.080 --> 02:32:42.776
considerations, past and present use,

02:32:42.800 --> 02:32:44.696
likelihood of future use and the

02:32:44.720 --> 02:32:46.616
provisions of the road management act.

02:32:46.640 --> 02:32:49.096
The evidence is compelling. The road

02:32:49.120 --> 02:32:51.576
surf serves just four allotments. It is

02:32:51.600 --> 02:32:53.736
not on council's road register. It does

02:32:53.760 --> 02:32:55.576
not form part of a wider road or

02:32:55.600 --> 02:32:57.415
pedestrian network. It has no

02:32:57.439 --> 02:32:59.576
foreseeable role for either vehicle or

02:32:59.600 --> 02:33:01.496
foot traffic into the future. Quite

02:33:01.520 --> 02:33:03.736
simply, there is no reason to retain it.

02:33:03.760 --> 02:33:06.056
as a public road. So what does

02:33:06.080 --> 02:33:08.616
discontinuous mean for council and our

02:33:08.640 --> 02:33:10.696
community? Firstly, there is a direct

02:33:10.720 --> 02:33:12.375
financial return. An independent

02:33:12.399 --> 02:33:14.936
valuation has set the fair market value

02:33:14.960 --> 02:33:17.960
of the land 212 m at $470,000.

02:33:20.080 --> 02:33:22.375
By resolving to discontinue the road and

02:33:22.399 --> 02:33:24.455
sell it to the adjoining owner at this

02:33:24.479 --> 02:33:26.616
independently assessed value, council

02:33:26.640 --> 02:33:29.415
secures a strong financial return to for

02:33:29.439 --> 02:33:31.896
our rate payers. This is responsible

02:33:31.920 --> 02:33:34.216
stewardship of our public assets.

02:33:34.240 --> 02:33:36.936
Secondly, there is a strategic benefit.

02:33:36.960 --> 02:33:38.536
This outcome is consistent with our

02:33:38.560 --> 02:33:41.096
council plan under strategic three

02:33:41.120 --> 02:33:42.936
economy where we are committed to

02:33:42.960 --> 02:33:45.016
enabling safe, clean and welcoming

02:33:45.040 --> 02:33:47.736
places to shop, do business and invest.

02:33:47.760 --> 02:33:49.576
By facilitating the redevelopment

02:33:49.600 --> 02:33:51.896
potential of the adjoining site, we are

02:33:51.920 --> 02:33:54.136
supporting the local economy. We are

02:33:54.160 --> 02:33:56.776
enabling investment in Nawading. We are

02:33:56.800 --> 02:33:58.696
helping create new opportunities for

02:33:58.720 --> 02:34:01.256
business and jobs in one of our key

02:34:01.280 --> 02:34:03.415
commercial precincts. It also aligns

02:34:03.439 --> 02:34:06.216
with strategic direction number five,

02:34:06.240 --> 02:34:09.016
governance. This process has been open,

02:34:09.040 --> 02:34:11.415
accountable, and transparent from the

02:34:11.439 --> 02:34:13.656
beginning. Council has not only followed

02:34:13.680 --> 02:34:15.816
the letter of the law, but has gone

02:34:15.840 --> 02:34:17.976
further by making sure all potentially

02:34:18.000 --> 02:34:20.056
affected parties were consulted by

02:34:20.080 --> 02:34:21.816
offering the opportunity for submissions

02:34:21.840 --> 02:34:24.375
and hearings and by publishing notices

02:34:24.399 --> 02:34:27.399
widely. The absence of submissions isn't

02:34:27.439 --> 02:34:29.736
just procedural. It's a powerful sign of

02:34:29.760 --> 02:34:31.896
community acceptance. Finally, it's

02:34:31.920 --> 02:34:34.216
worth noting this is not a decision made

02:34:34.240 --> 02:34:36.295
lightly. Officers have confirmed that

02:34:36.319 --> 02:34:37.896
under the local government act, all

02:34:37.920 --> 02:34:40.616
requirements section 206 clause 3 of

02:34:40.640 --> 02:34:43.640
schedule 10 207A and section 223 have

02:34:44.319 --> 02:34:47.096
been satisfied and also the requirements

02:34:47.120 --> 02:34:48.936
of the road management act. The rights

02:34:48.960 --> 02:34:50.375
of adjoining owners and public

02:34:50.399 --> 02:34:52.936
authorities are preserved. The easement

02:34:52.960 --> 02:34:55.496
for Yar Valley Water will be protected.

02:34:55.520 --> 02:34:58.056
Every box has been ticked. There are no

02:34:58.080 --> 02:35:01.016
legal risks or outstanding issues. So

02:35:01.040 --> 02:35:03.335
colleagues, tonight's decision is

02:35:03.359 --> 02:35:05.016
straightforward. We're not dealing with

02:35:05.040 --> 02:35:07.016
a road that has any strategic importance

02:35:07.040 --> 02:35:09.096
for our network. We're not dealing with

02:35:09.120 --> 02:35:11.256
land where the community has expressed

02:35:11.280 --> 02:35:13.016
any objection. Instead, we're dealing

02:35:13.040 --> 02:35:15.016
with a redundant road, a rigorous

02:35:15.040 --> 02:35:17.816
statutory process, a clear independent

02:35:17.840 --> 02:35:20.616
valuation, and an opportunity to deliver

02:35:20.640 --> 02:35:23.176
both financial and strategic benefit to

02:35:23.200 --> 02:35:25.256
our city. For all of these reasons, I

02:35:25.280 --> 02:35:27.096
strongly support the officer

02:35:27.120 --> 02:35:29.096
recommendation to discontinue the road

02:35:29.120 --> 02:35:31.496
and authorize its sale to the adjoining

02:35:31.520 --> 02:35:34.056
owner. It is the right outcome for our

02:35:34.080 --> 02:35:36.136
community for good governance and for

02:35:36.160 --> 02:35:39.160
the future of Nadawaning. Thank you,

02:35:39.359 --> 02:35:42.056
Mayor. Councelor Simpson.

02:35:42.080 --> 02:35:43.496
Thank you, Mayor. Councelor Senate, you

02:35:43.520 --> 02:35:46.216
only still had three extra seconds. Um,

02:35:46.240 --> 02:35:47.496
nothing further to add.

02:35:47.520 --> 02:35:49.096
Are there any further speakers to the

02:35:49.120 --> 02:35:52.056
motion? No. I'll put the motion to the

02:35:52.080 --> 02:35:55.080
vote. Those in favor?

02:35:55.280 --> 02:35:58.280
Carried unanimously.

02:36:00.399 --> 02:36:03.256
Item 10.13, audit and risk committee

02:36:03.280 --> 02:36:06.136
bannual report, April to September 2025.

02:36:06.160 --> 02:36:07.176
I seek a mover.

02:36:07.200 --> 02:36:07.976
Happy to move. May

02:36:08.000 --> 02:36:10.936
council Griffith moved. I seek a second.

02:36:10.960 --> 02:36:11.656
Happy to second.

02:36:11.680 --> 02:36:13.256
Councelor Gun seconded. Council

02:36:13.280 --> 02:36:14.216
Griffith.

02:36:14.240 --> 02:36:16.536
 thanks May. The report's relatively

02:36:16.560 --> 02:36:19.016
brief and I will also be brief. Um the

02:36:19.040 --> 02:36:22.040
summary is that   the committee was

02:36:22.319 --> 02:36:24.136
comfortable with reporting received and

02:36:24.160 --> 02:36:25.976
actions being taken by management to

02:36:26.000 --> 02:36:27.976
address  findings described in the

02:36:28.000 --> 02:36:30.295
report. A few areas that were reported

02:36:30.319 --> 02:36:32.216
on by the internal auditor risk

02:36:32.240 --> 02:36:34.455
management framework a review of

02:36:34.479 --> 02:36:37.256
procurement and tendering and all open

02:36:37.280 --> 02:36:40.280
internal audit actions.

02:36:40.399 --> 02:36:43.399
I'll take the report as read Mayor.

02:36:43.840 --> 02:36:45.256
Councelor G.

02:36:45.280 --> 02:36:47.176
Thank you Mayor. I realize this is the

02:36:47.200 --> 02:36:48.616
second time this evening I've taken the

02:36:48.640 --> 02:36:51.096
role of Peter Allen councelor Allen 

02:36:51.120 --> 02:36:52.696
as he's the other member of the audit

02:36:52.720 --> 02:36:54.536
and risk committee.  nothing further

02:36:54.560 --> 02:36:56.136
to add but I do support the

02:36:56.160 --> 02:36:57.976
recommendation. Are there any further

02:36:58.000 --> 02:37:00.696
speakers? No further speakers. I'll put

02:37:00.720 --> 02:37:03.415
the motion. Those in favor carried

02:37:03.439 --> 02:37:06.439
unanimously.

02:37:08.160 --> 02:37:11.160
Um item 10.14 records of informal

02:37:11.359 --> 02:37:13.415
meetings of councilors. I seek a mover

02:37:13.439 --> 02:37:14.776
up.

02:37:14.800 --> 02:37:15.576
Happy to move.

02:37:15.600 --> 02:37:17.816
Councelor Weller. I seek a second.

02:37:17.840 --> 02:37:18.776
Second.

02:37:18.800 --> 02:37:19.736
Happy to second. Mayor

02:37:19.760 --> 02:37:22.295
Councelor Gun.

02:37:22.319 --> 02:37:25.319
Council Weller.  everything  as far

02:37:25.840 --> 02:37:28.616
as I am aware checks out. So happy to

02:37:28.640 --> 02:37:30.696
support the recommendation.

02:37:30.720 --> 02:37:31.816
Councelor Gard

02:37:31.840 --> 02:37:34.840
just noting that the  it's noted that

02:37:35.040 --> 02:37:37.176
councelor Griffith and I were absent as

02:37:37.200 --> 02:37:39.016
a result of the conflict of interest on

02:37:39.040 --> 02:37:40.616
one of the items. So everything is

02:37:40.640 --> 02:37:42.616
accurate in that report.

02:37:42.640 --> 02:37:44.536
Okay. I know that you tried to buzz in

02:37:44.560 --> 02:37:46.455
councelor Simpson. Did you have anything

02:37:46.479 --> 02:37:47.576
further?

02:37:47.600 --> 02:37:48.856
Thank you Mayor but no.

02:37:48.880 --> 02:37:51.880
Okay. Um any further speakers?

02:37:54.080 --> 02:37:56.216
No, I'll move the mo I'll put the motion

02:37:56.240 --> 02:37:59.240
to the vote. Um those in favor

02:38:00.000 --> 02:38:03.000
carried unanimously.

02:38:03.600 --> 02:38:06.136
I'll move down to item 11, councelor

02:38:06.160 --> 02:38:08.295
delegates and conferences seminar

02:38:08.319 --> 02:38:11.319
reports. Um

02:38:12.080 --> 02:38:14.216
if you have not re submitted a written

02:38:14.240 --> 02:38:16.136
report for the minutes, please do keep

02:38:16.160 --> 02:38:19.160
your verbal reports brief. I'll commence

02:38:19.439 --> 02:38:21.976
with deputy Mayor councel prats. Thank

02:38:22.000 --> 02:38:24.056
you very much, Mayor. So on Wednesday

02:38:24.080 --> 02:38:26.856
the 8th of October last week,  with

02:38:26.880 --> 02:38:29.816
councelor Kier Kieran Simpson,  we

02:38:29.840 --> 02:38:32.696
attended the um environment

02:38:32.720 --> 02:38:35.656
sustainability reference group and we um

02:38:35.680 --> 02:38:37.976
had presentations from Steve Day on the

02:38:38.000 --> 02:38:41.000
LAR um monitoring the tree canopy and

02:38:41.280 --> 02:38:43.176
LAR stands for the light detecting and

02:38:43.200 --> 02:38:45.335
ranging and it was an excellent

02:38:45.359 --> 02:38:48.295
presentation.  we also had an

02:38:48.319 --> 02:38:50.056
opportunity to have a look through the

02:38:50.080 --> 02:38:51.816
tree management policy which is coming

02:38:51.840 --> 02:38:54.295
to council and one of the key things is

02:38:54.319 --> 02:38:56.216
that um the committee wanted to be

02:38:56.240 --> 02:38:59.240
involved in key matters early on in the

02:38:59.600 --> 02:39:01.256
process rather than at the end and

02:39:01.280 --> 02:39:03.096
that's we're able to do there and the

02:39:03.120 --> 02:39:04.616
other thing that we had were a couple of

02:39:04.640 --> 02:39:05.976
issues raised from one of the committee

02:39:06.000 --> 02:39:08.455
members. We've got a fantastic committee

02:39:08.479 --> 02:39:11.415
um now and  one one was their concern

02:39:11.439 --> 02:39:13.656
about illegal tree removal and fireprone

02:39:13.680 --> 02:39:15.896
areas and increasing fines for um

02:39:15.920 --> 02:39:18.920
breaches and it was a very very positive

02:39:18.960 --> 02:39:21.960
 and informative meeting. Thanks May.

02:39:24.479 --> 02:39:25.656
Councelor G.

02:39:25.680 --> 02:39:27.576
Thank you Mayor. Just one update which

02:39:27.600 --> 02:39:29.816
was the Metropolitan Transport Forum met

02:39:29.840 --> 02:39:32.455
on the 1st of October and unfortunately

02:39:32.479 --> 02:39:34.056
councelor Simpson was unable to attend

02:39:34.080 --> 02:39:36.616
due to a conflict. So, and it was White

02:39:36.640 --> 02:39:38.856
Horse's turn to give an update on

02:39:38.880 --> 02:39:40.455
information sharing around what's been

02:39:40.479 --> 02:39:42.616
happening and what our focus is on

02:39:42.640 --> 02:39:45.096
Metropolitan Transport  forum in this

02:39:45.120 --> 02:39:47.256
area. I gave a very brief and thanks to

02:39:47.280 --> 02:39:49.176
the officers for providing some

02:39:49.200 --> 02:39:51.335
additional slides. I gave a very brief

02:39:51.359 --> 02:39:54.359
report on the focus being around our 

02:39:54.399 --> 02:39:56.936
SRL planning.  obviously with the

02:39:56.960 --> 02:39:59.496
strong focus to  cycle ways that will

02:39:59.520 --> 02:40:01.415
connect through that way with  Nelson

02:40:01.439 --> 02:40:04.439
Road, Elga Road um crossings as well as

02:40:05.280 --> 02:40:07.576
the bus which was mentioned earlier as

02:40:07.600 --> 02:40:09.096
well, the bus interchange which is a big

02:40:09.120 --> 02:40:10.536
focus of what we're hoping for and

02:40:10.560 --> 02:40:13.560
outcome with the SRL.  nothing further

02:40:13.600 --> 02:40:14.136
to add.

02:40:14.160 --> 02:40:15.415
Councelor Simpson.

02:40:15.439 --> 02:40:16.936
Thank you, Mayor. As mentioned by the

02:40:16.960 --> 02:40:19.176
deputy Mayor, I attended the ESRG

02:40:19.200 --> 02:40:21.976
meeting with her on the 8th of October.

02:40:22.000 --> 02:40:24.056
Um, and the reason I was unable to

02:40:24.080 --> 02:40:26.776
attend the MTF  forum was because I

02:40:26.800 --> 02:40:29.335
had the MAV delegates pre-count state

02:40:29.359 --> 02:40:31.096
council briefing on that night at the

02:40:31.120 --> 02:40:32.936
same time. So, thank you councelor Gun

02:40:32.960 --> 02:40:34.616
for attending on behalf of Whitehorse

02:40:34.640 --> 02:40:36.056
and giving that presentation. I'm sure

02:40:36.080 --> 02:40:38.295
you did an excellent job. Um on the 10th

02:40:38.319 --> 02:40:40.455
of October councilors, we had the MAV

02:40:40.479 --> 02:40:42.375
state council and as you know we had

02:40:42.399 --> 02:40:45.096
three motions submitted to the um to the

02:40:45.120 --> 02:40:47.096
council for consideration by all

02:40:47.120 --> 02:40:49.736
councils in Victoria and all three

02:40:49.760 --> 02:40:52.760
passed um with significantly high um 

02:40:53.760 --> 02:40:56.295
majorities in the high 90%. So I'm

02:40:56.319 --> 02:40:58.616
really pleased with that outcome. Um and

02:40:58.640 --> 02:41:01.640
that's it. Council Well,

02:41:01.680 --> 02:41:04.295
on 24th September, I attended a White

02:41:04.319 --> 02:41:06.295
Horse Manningham Regional Library

02:41:06.319 --> 02:41:08.696
Corporation risk workshop where the

02:41:08.720 --> 02:41:10.776
board discussed and gave feedback on the

02:41:10.800 --> 02:41:13.496
corporation's risk appetite before board

02:41:13.520 --> 02:41:15.656
endorsement.

02:41:15.680 --> 02:41:16.696
Council Martin,

02:41:16.720 --> 02:41:17.816
nothing to report. Mayor

02:41:17.840 --> 02:41:19.176
Councelor Stennet.

02:41:19.200 --> 02:41:20.616
, thank you ma'am. I'm delighted to

02:41:20.640 --> 02:41:22.616
report this item reports by delegates

02:41:22.640 --> 02:41:24.936
and reports on conferences on seminars

02:41:24.960 --> 02:41:27.496
attendance. I have nothing to report.

02:41:27.520 --> 02:41:29.096
Thank you for keeping your report brief.

02:41:29.120 --> 02:41:30.536
Council Langford.

02:41:30.560 --> 02:41:32.776
Um, on the 23rd of the 9th, I attended

02:41:32.800 --> 02:41:35.800
the ELGA contact group and listened to

02:41:35.840 --> 02:41:38.840
Gabriel, our federal MP for menses, he

02:41:39.840 --> 02:41:42.056
spoke very eloquently and talked about

02:41:42.080 --> 02:41:43.496
the fast learning curve that he is

02:41:43.520 --> 02:41:46.520
currently on as a new federal MP. In

02:41:46.880 --> 02:41:49.880
addition on um last week can't remember

02:41:50.399 --> 02:41:52.776
the date heritage committee um where we

02:41:52.800 --> 02:41:54.856
spoke about the first meeting that I

02:41:54.880 --> 02:41:57.816
attended and we spoke about the the

02:41:57.840 --> 02:41:59.256
grants that have been made to various

02:41:59.280 --> 02:42:01.415
heritage properties and also about the

02:42:01.439 --> 02:42:04.439
sale of the church at 355 to 357 White

02:42:05.760 --> 02:42:07.656
Horse Road. It's just up from here.

02:42:07.680 --> 02:42:10.295
Apparently the um very significant

02:42:10.319 --> 02:42:12.776
architect and um beautiful stained glass

02:42:12.800 --> 02:42:14.136
windows which you often see reflected in

02:42:14.160 --> 02:42:16.616
the sun as you drive past. um it was

02:42:16.640 --> 02:42:19.640
built in the60s and it's included in the

02:42:19.840 --> 02:42:21.576
draft heritage study they're currently

02:42:21.600 --> 02:42:23.896
looking at and there is an interest from

02:42:23.920 --> 02:42:26.216
the the Whitehorse Heritage Committee

02:42:26.240 --> 02:42:28.776
in this property. Finally, I'd like to

02:42:28.800 --> 02:42:31.576
ask your um leave Mayor to talk about

02:42:31.600 --> 02:42:33.576
the MVA

02:42:33.600 --> 02:42:36.295
MAV Lab innovation awards that I

02:42:36.319 --> 02:42:38.616
attended last week on your behalf.

02:42:38.640 --> 02:42:40.375
Yes. Um yes, please continue.

02:42:40.399 --> 02:42:42.536
Um thank you. And we were awarded there

02:42:42.560 --> 02:42:45.256
was an award for Lisa Epilado who um was

02:42:45.280 --> 02:42:47.816
awarded for change management in AI and

02:42:47.840 --> 02:42:50.776
we won that award which was a great um

02:42:50.800 --> 02:42:53.736
 s effort for Whitehorse and for and

02:42:53.760 --> 02:42:55.896
for LISA. And secondly I would like to

02:42:55.920 --> 02:42:58.920
compliment our CEO um Simon McMillan who

02:42:59.120 --> 02:43:01.096
was a finalist for um being a

02:43:01.120 --> 02:43:04.056
significant leader in MAV Lab um

02:43:04.080 --> 02:43:06.696
innovation. So thank you very much

02:43:06.720 --> 02:43:09.720
Mayor. Hey, thank you.

02:43:12.720 --> 02:43:15.576
I think the ELGA contact, I'm not sure

02:43:15.600 --> 02:43:17.415
if that qualifies as a

02:43:17.439 --> 02:43:20.439
conference/seminar, but um you're very

02:43:21.680 --> 02:43:24.536
brief, so it's okay on this occasion.

02:43:24.560 --> 02:43:26.375
Thank you, Councelor Griffith.

02:43:26.399 --> 02:43:27.976
No report, ma'am.

02:43:28.000 --> 02:43:31.000
Um and I had um no report. I now seek a

02:43:33.040 --> 02:43:34.856
motion to receive and note these

02:43:34.880 --> 02:43:35.415
reports.

02:43:35.439 --> 02:43:37.016
Happy to move, Mayor. Councelor Simpson,

02:43:37.040 --> 02:43:38.375
I second.

02:43:38.399 --> 02:43:40.936
Deputy Mayor Cut seconded. Any

02:43:40.960 --> 02:43:43.415
discussion? Put the motion. Those in

02:43:43.439 --> 02:43:46.439
favor? It's carried unanimously.

02:43:47.279 --> 02:43:50.279
Um item 12. Um there is a confidential

02:43:51.840 --> 02:43:54.840
report. Um, so I will now close the

02:43:56.640 --> 02:43:59.640
meeting to members of the public and the

02:43:59.920 --> 02:44:02.920
councils will now adjourn until 9:55 to

02:44:03.359 --> 02:44:05.656
allow members of the public to leave the

02:44:05.680 --> 02:44:08.680
chamber and then we will return um to

02:44:09.040 --> 02:44:12.040
discuss the confidential matter 12.1 and

02:44:12.240 --> 02:44:15.016
before councilors leave the room I do

02:44:15.040 --> 02:44:17.176
seek a mover to move into confidential.

02:44:17.200 --> 02:44:18.056
So moved.

02:44:18.080 --> 02:44:20.776
Councelor Stennet. And I seek a second

02:44:20.800 --> 02:44:21.176
uper.

02:44:21.200 --> 02:44:22.136
Seconded.

02:44:22.160 --> 02:44:23.816
Councelor Langford. Is there any

02:44:23.840 --> 02:44:26.375
discussion?

02:44:26.399 --> 02:44:28.056
No discussion. Okay. I'll put the

02:44:28.080 --> 02:44:30.856
motion.

02:44:30.880 --> 02:44:33.736
It's  councelor Weller, Councelor

02:44:33.760 --> 02:44:36.760
Simpson, Council Gun, Deputy Mayor Cuts,

02:44:36.880 --> 02:44:39.176
Councelor Davenport, Council Langford,

02:44:39.200 --> 02:44:41.415
Council Stennet, and Council Martin

02:44:41.439 --> 02:44:43.096
against.

02:44:43.120 --> 02:44:46.120
It's  Council Griffith. Um, I declare

02:44:46.399 --> 02:44:48.776
the motion ca um carried. The next

02:44:48.800 --> 02:44:50.856
ordinary meeting of council will be held

02:44:50.880 --> 02:44:53.880
on Monday the 27th of October at 2025. I

02:44:55.279 --> 02:44:58.136
now close the public meeting at 9:52

02:44:58.160 --> 02:44:59.976
p.m. Enjoy the rest of your evening

02:45:00.000 --> 02:45:03.000
everyone. Good night.