WEBVTT 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:02.696 Good evening everyone. I am councelor 00:00:02.720 --> 00:00:04.696 Kirsten Langford, Mayor of Whitehorse 00:00:04.720 --> 00:00:07.496 City Council and I welcome all who have 00:00:07.520 --> 00:00:09.575 joined the council meeting both in 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:12.599 person and online. Council live streams 00:00:13.360 --> 00:00:16.216 council meetings and while all care is 00:00:16.240 --> 00:00:18.696 taken to maintain privacy, some 00:00:18.720 --> 00:00:20.456 attending the meeting in the public 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:23.255 gallery may be recorded and appear in 00:00:23.279 --> 00:00:25.816 the live stream. A copy of the live 00:00:25.840 --> 00:00:27.575 stream will be will be available for 00:00:27.599 --> 00:00:30.216 viewing on council's website within 48 00:00:30.240 --> 00:00:32.856 hours. I will now formally open this 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:35.016 council meeting and will recite the 00:00:35.040 --> 00:00:36.856 opening and the acknowledgement of 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:39.880 country. Please stand if you're able. 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:44.456 We give thanks, O God, for the 00:00:44.480 --> 00:00:47.256 Men and Women of the past and those 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:49.576 generous devotion to the common good who 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:51.976 has been the making of our City. Grant 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:53.816 that our own generation will build 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:55.656 worthily on the foundations that they 00:00:55.680 --> 00:00:58.680 have laid. Direct our minds that all we 00:00:58.879 --> 00:01:00.936 plan and determine is for the well-being 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:03.960 of our City. Amen. 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:06.376 Whitehorse City Council acknowledges the 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:09.016 Wurundjeri Woi wurrung people of the 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:11.095 Kulin Nation as a Traditional Owners 00:01:11.119 --> 00:01:13.336 of the land we are meeting on and we pay 00:01:13.360 --> 00:01:15.176 our respects to their Elders past, 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:17.496 present and emerging and the Aboriginal 00:01:17.520 --> 00:01:19.016 and Torres Strait Islanders from 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:20.536 communities that who may be present 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:23.560 today. Please be seated. 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:32.536 I would now like to introduce our 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:33.816 counselors. Commencing with the 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.455 counselors on my left, Deputy Mayor , 00:01:36.479 --> 00:01:38.055 Councelor Kieran Simpson. 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:39.415 Good evening, Mayor . Good evening all 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:40.936 and especially to those in the gallery 00:01:40.960 --> 00:01:42.616 today. 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:44.296 Councelor Andrew Davenport. 00:01:44.320 --> 00:01:47.320 Good evening everyone. Welcome. 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:50.216 Councelor Jarrod Gunn. 00:01:50.240 --> 00:01:52.216 Good evening all and welcome. 00:01:52.240 --> 00:01:53.896 Councelor Daniel Griffiths. 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:56.455 Good evening and welcome. Councelor 00:01:56.479 --> 00:01:57.735 Hayley Weller. 00:01:57.759 --> 00:02:00.055 Good evening and welcome. 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:01.496 Councelor Peter Allan. 00:02:01.520 --> 00:02:03.816 Good evening and welcome. 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:05.735 Councelor Jason Martin. 00:02:05.759 --> 00:02:07.176 Hello everyone and everyone in the 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:08.776 gallery and the eight speakers we have 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:11.416 tonight. Thank you. 00:02:11.440 --> 00:02:12.855 Councelor Prue Cutts. 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:14.295 Good evening everyone, especially to 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:15.736 those in the gallery and those who might 00:02:15.760 --> 00:02:17.736 be live streaming. Thank you. 00:02:17.760 --> 00:02:19.176 Councelor Ben Stennet. 00:02:19.200 --> 00:02:22.200 Good evening everyone. Welcome. 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:23.416 Councelor Blair Barker. 00:02:23.440 --> 00:02:24.696 Good evening all. Thank you for your 00:02:24.720 --> 00:02:27.720 interest. 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.096 We are also joined by the CEO and senior 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:33.816 officers. I will commence with the chief 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:36.376 executive officer, Simon McMillan. 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:38.376 Good evening everyone and welcome. 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:39.976 Jeff Green, the director of city 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:41.575 development. 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:43.416 Lisa Letic, the director of community 00:02:43.440 --> 00:02:46.440 services. Stuart Cann, the director of 00:02:46.640 --> 00:02:49.016 corporate services. Steven White, 00:02:49.040 --> 00:02:51.256 director of infrastructure, Vivienne 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:53.976 Felano, manager of governance and 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:55.816 any member and members of the governance 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:58.840 and IT teams. 00:03:03.760 --> 00:03:05.976 Item two, apologies. I will note any 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:08.295 apologies and seek a motion to accept 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:10.135 any leaves of absence requests. Are 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:13.159 there any apologies this evening? 00:03:14.640 --> 00:03:17.176 Madame Mayor, I move acceptance of 00:03:17.200 --> 00:03:19.896 my leave of absence for the meeting, the 00:03:19.920 --> 00:03:22.696 full council meeting on February the 00:03:22.720 --> 00:03:25.416 2nd, 2026. 00:03:25.440 --> 00:03:28.135 Can I have a counselor move and second 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:29.176 this motion? 00:03:29.200 --> 00:03:30.376 Happy to move, Mayor . 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:31.736 Thank you, Deputy Mayor . 00:03:31.760 --> 00:03:32.775 Happy to second. 00:03:32.799 --> 00:03:35.799 Thank you, councelor Weller. 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:39.336 I've now put the motion. 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:41.575 Sorry, Councelor Cutts. Oh, I thought it 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:43.096 Sorry, I didn't hear that. Thank you, 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.656 Councelor Cutts I now put the 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:48.680 motion. All of those all those in favor. 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:52.536 I declare the motion unanimously 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:55.560 carried. 00:03:55.760 --> 00:03:58.616 Item three, are there any disclosures of 00:03:58.640 --> 00:04:00.376 interest? If so, I will require 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:02.536 counselors and officers tolo disclose 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:04.456 that interest and the nature of that 00:04:04.480 --> 00:04:07.480 interest. 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:09.976 Seeing as there are no disclosures, we 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:12.456 will move on to the next item. Item 00:04:12.480 --> 00:04:15.415 four, councilors. Can someone please 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:16.935 confirm the minutes for the council 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:19.416 meeting held on the 10th of November and 00:04:19.440 --> 00:04:20.856 the council meeting which is the 00:04:20.880 --> 00:04:22.936 election of Mayor and Deputy Mayor held 00:04:22.960 --> 00:04:25.416 on the 12th of November. Can I have a 00:04:25.440 --> 00:04:26.615 council move? 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:27.976 Happy to move. 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:31.000 Thank you councel Weller and second. 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:32.056 Happy to second. Mayor 00:04:32.080 --> 00:04:35.080 thank you Deputy Mayor Simpson. 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:39.639 I now declare I now put the for I now 00:04:39.840 --> 00:04:42.840 put the motion. All those in favor? 00:04:42.960 --> 00:04:45.960 That's unanimously carried. 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:48.856 Item five, urgent business. 00:04:48.880 --> 00:04:51.175 councilors and councilors, are there any 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:54.199 urgent items of business this evening? 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:03.560 Okay. So as there is no urgent items 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:06.056 of business, we will now move 00:05:06.080 --> 00:05:09.015 to the next item which is item six, 00:05:09.039 --> 00:05:11.895 request to speak. A request to speak 00:05:11.919 --> 00:05:13.656 enables members of the community to 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.376 speak directly to council at a council 00:05:16.400 --> 00:05:18.936 meeting. Each speaker is granted up to 00:05:18.960 --> 00:05:21.416 three minutes to present their subject 00:05:21.440 --> 00:05:24.440 matter and a bell 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:27.720 will be will alert you to the to to you 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:30.455 when will alert you when there are only 00:05:30.479 --> 00:05:33.015 30 seconds remaining. Please ensure that 00:05:33.039 --> 00:05:35.895 your speech is respectful, relevant, and 00:05:35.919 --> 00:05:37.656 expressed in a manner that upholds 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:39.976 courtesy. Tonight we have eight 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:43.000 speakers. First to speak is Alex Agenti, 00:05:43.919 --> 00:05:46.856 Vermont Junior Football Club. Alex, I 00:05:46.880 --> 00:05:49.880 invite you to the lecton. 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:58.936 Good evening and apologies for my dress 00:05:58.960 --> 00:06:00.136 tonight. I've just come straight from 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:01.656 the footy field. We've started our 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:04.216 pre-season training. but my name is 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:06.776 Alex Agenti. I am the president of 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:09.576 Vermont Junior Football Club. and on 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:11.656 behalf of the club, I'd like to express 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:13.895 our strong support for the redevelopment 00:06:13.919 --> 00:06:16.919 of the David Lane precinct. This is an 00:06:17.039 --> 00:06:18.776 important and much needed project for 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:20.856 our community and I'm here representing 00:06:20.880 --> 00:06:23.416 the 650 young players that we have in 00:06:23.440 --> 00:06:25.895 our club from Oz kick through to under 00:06:25.919 --> 00:06:28.919 18s, both girls and boys, and the 500 00:06:29.919 --> 00:06:32.919 families who support them. So, our club 00:06:33.039 --> 00:06:36.039 continues to grow, but our facilities 00:06:36.080 --> 00:06:39.015 are not keeping pace. We struggle to 00:06:39.039 --> 00:06:40.776 secure enough grounds for both training 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:43.735 and matches. And with hundreds of white 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:45.816 horse families involved, many with 00:06:45.840 --> 00:06:48.696 multiple children playing, demand for 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:51.096 space is significant. 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:53.976 During a typical season, we can have up 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:55.735 to three or four teams training on the 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:58.759 same oval. That creates congestion. It 00:06:59.039 --> 00:07:01.256 limits development opportunities for the 00:07:01.280 --> 00:07:03.976 kids and it places a heavy strain on the 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:07.000 actual grounds. We also rely on venues 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:09.336 further from our communities. Families 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:11.416 can travel up to 7 km to Whitehorse 00:07:11.440 --> 00:07:13.096 Reserve for some of our home matches and 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.656 also 5 km to East Burwood Reserve for 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:17.735 training which adds time pressure to 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:20.455 already busy schedules for parents. 00:07:20.479 --> 00:07:22.295 We have a growing demand for around 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:25.175 girls football. so a major focus for 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:28.136 us is expanding our girls participation. 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.776 We currently have five girls teams from 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.800 U10 through to U18s. Our aim is 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.295 to increase this to 10 teams, thus 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:38.295 having two teams in every age group in 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:40.776 the coming years. But our current 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:42.376 facilities make this extremely 00:07:42.400 --> 00:07:44.696 difficult. So we look to schedule all of 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:46.536 our female training on a single night, 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:49.096 usually Wednesdays, to secure exclusive 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.256 change room access and avoid any 00:07:51.280 --> 00:07:54.056 crossover with the boys teams. This is a 00:07:54.080 --> 00:07:55.735 scheduling issue that can then clash 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:57.336 with some of the girls netball 00:07:57.360 --> 00:07:59.175 commitments on the same night, thus 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:00.455 discouraging them from actually joining 00:08:00.479 --> 00:08:03.479 the club. So why does Davy Lane matter? 00:08:04.479 --> 00:08:06.536 Davy Lane is ideally located to meet the 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:08.936 the needs of our families. Most of our 00:08:08.960 --> 00:08:10.455 members live within 2 to three 00:08:10.479 --> 00:08:12.936 kilometers of the reserve. Our local 00:08:12.960 --> 00:08:14.216 grounds which include Livingston, 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:16.295 Vermont and Forest Hill are already 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:19.319 operating at either 180 or 100 or 180% 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.696 of the recommended usage. 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:24.776 Davy Lane offers a unique opportunity to 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:27.175 relieve this overcrowding and to provide 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:29.336 safe, highquality, accessible community 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.496 sporting facilities. One thing we'd like 00:08:31.520 --> 00:08:33.976 to clarify is we have no interest in 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:35.736 seeking a liquor license and making this 00:08:35.760 --> 00:08:38.056 a social hub after hours, but simply a 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:41.080 sporting facility. 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:43.815 So, in conclusion, our proposal reflects 00:08:43.839 --> 00:08:45.336 on our long-term vision, which is to 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:47.096 grow the game, nurture the next 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:49.736 generation of of athletes, and build a 00:08:49.760 --> 00:08:51.896 stronger, more inclusive community, 00:08:51.920 --> 00:08:53.176 particularly for our girls who are 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:54.856 joining the club. 00:08:54.880 --> 00:08:57.656 Additional local facilities will elevate 00:08:57.680 --> 00:08:59.336 play development, reduce pressure on 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:00.935 families, and keep football accessible 00:09:00.959 --> 00:09:02.536 to every child who wants to play. 00:09:02.560 --> 00:09:03.255 Thank you, Alex. 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:06.279 Thank you. 00:09:08.880 --> 00:09:11.096 Our next speaker is Trent Tu from 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.255 Vermont Cricket Club. I now invite Trent 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:16.279 to the lectern. 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:20.536 Thank you, Mayor , counselors, and 00:09:20.560 --> 00:09:21.976 council officers for the opportunity to 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:23.416 speak tonight in reference to the Davy 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:25.416 Lane advocacy approach. My name is Trent 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:26.696 Tu and I'm the president of Vermont 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:28.616 Cricket Club. Tonight, I'm speaking on 00:09:28.640 --> 00:09:30.375 behalf of Vermont Sports Club, which 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:32.375 incorporates Vermont Football Net Club, 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:33.815 Vermont Junior Football Club, and 00:09:33.839 --> 00:09:35.815 Vermont Cricket Club, and combined is 00:09:35.839 --> 00:09:37.656 made up of 12 senior male and female 00:09:37.680 --> 00:09:40.536 teams, over 40 junior, male, and female 00:09:40.560 --> 00:09:42.296 teams, and a combined membership of 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:44.856 approximately 900 players. that 00:09:44.880 --> 00:09:47.096 continues to grow across our respective 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:48.696 sporting codes particularly across 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:50.696 female participation at all levels which 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:53.096 is very much welcomed. Our challenge is 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:54.616 getting access to grounds and suitable 00:09:54.640 --> 00:09:56.216 facilities to accommodate our large 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:57.976 volume of growing junior teams and 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:00.056 female teams for develop development 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.696 sessions and match days across all our 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:04.456 teams. We currently have one ground at 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:06.456 Vermont Reserve and share grounds when 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:08.296 possible. We do have teams that 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:10.456 currently utilize a Davy Lane space. 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:12.296 However, it is far from acceptable given 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:14.456 that there is no shelter, no access to 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:16.616 water, and no access to any toilet 00:10:16.640 --> 00:10:18.856 facilities. As a result of this lack of 00:10:18.880 --> 00:10:20.536 facilities, we are unable to place our 00:10:20.560 --> 00:10:22.696 juniors or female teams at this ground, 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:24.696 hence adding more pressures to finding 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:27.255 suitable grounds. Furthermore, visiting 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:29.176 clubs from neighboring municipalities 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:30.696 each week question why there is no 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:32.296 access to any basic facilities 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:34.136 whatsoever and why players and 00:10:34.160 --> 00:10:36.055 supporters need to use nearby bushes for 00:10:36.079 --> 00:10:38.296 toilet breaks across a 5-hour game of 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:40.136 cricket, sometimes in full view of 00:10:40.160 --> 00:10:41.815 others in the community utilizing the 00:10:41.839 --> 00:10:44.375 ground and the park area. The sports 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:46.456 ground at Davy Lane has been colloally 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.136 branded by so many clubs as one of the 00:10:48.160 --> 00:10:49.976 worst areas to play in the entire 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:51.815 eastern region. 00:10:51.839 --> 00:10:53.896 We have been advised that Whitehorse 00:10:53.920 --> 00:10:55.736 are around four sports grounds short to 00:10:55.760 --> 00:10:57.176 be able to accommodate for clubs for 00:10:57.200 --> 00:10:59.016 their respective sporting codes with 00:10:59.040 --> 00:11:00.856 appropriate grounds and facilities. We 00:11:00.880 --> 00:11:02.375 all understand the challenges of access 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:04.216 to real estate with limited space and 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:05.976 other venues being closed under 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:07.815 redevelopment that puts a strain on 00:11:07.839 --> 00:11:09.815 finding grounds to allow our members to 00:11:09.839 --> 00:11:11.495 participate. 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:14.055 But councilors, under the propo proposed 00:11:14.079 --> 00:11:15.815 plan that has been submitted and was 00:11:15.839 --> 00:11:17.976 voted for, we currently have a space at 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.055 Davy Lane to be able to provide two 00:11:20.079 --> 00:11:22.296 grounds, both on a playing surface and 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.935 an area which already exists, albeit far 00:11:24.959 --> 00:11:27.176 from suitable. As mentioned, you have 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:29.416 voted on this before and agreed that the 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:32.136 facilities are needed. Many councilors 00:11:32.160 --> 00:11:34.136 stated in the last vote on Davy Lane 00:11:34.160 --> 00:11:35.976 that this has been going on for far too 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:38.055 long. And to quote one counselor in 00:11:38.079 --> 00:11:40.296 their summary, "We need this. It's gone 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:43.320 on far too long. Just get it done. 00:11:44.079 --> 00:11:45.656 We encourage council to push on with 00:11:45.680 --> 00:11:47.416 this muchneeded project and lead the way 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:49.096 with access to safe and appropriate 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:51.016 sports facilities. And don't let this 00:11:51.040 --> 00:11:53.576 embarrassing, unsafe, and lifeless 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:55.815 sports ground be a reflection on what 00:11:55.839 --> 00:11:57.736 Whitehorse can deliver to encourage 00:11:57.760 --> 00:11:59.815 participation by all in local sport and 00:11:59.839 --> 00:12:02.136 outdoor activities. Mayor , councelor, 00:12:02.160 --> 00:12:03.656 and council officers, thank you for your 00:12:03.680 --> 00:12:05.016 contribution to local sport and white 00:12:05.040 --> 00:12:06.696 horse. And we trust that the right 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:08.776 decision is once again agreed on and the 00:12:08.800 --> 00:12:10.296 council continue engaging in all 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:12.536 communities through sport, recreation, 00:12:12.560 --> 00:12:14.776 sport and recreation by providing much 00:12:14.800 --> 00:12:16.375 needed safer grounds and proper 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:18.536 facilities for our growing population to 00:12:18.560 --> 00:12:19.416 enjoy. 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:20.696 Thank you. 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:23.720 Thank you, Trent. 00:12:24.959 --> 00:12:27.959 Our next speaker is Richard Shei, Asian 00:12:28.160 --> 00:12:30.456 Business Association of Whitehorse. I 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.480 invite Richard to the lectern. 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:41.016 Madame Mayor , councilors, thank you for 00:12:41.040 --> 00:12:43.336 the opportunity to speak. My name is 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:45.656 Richard Chi and I'm speaking on behalf 00:12:45.680 --> 00:12:47.336 of the Asian Business Association of 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:49.416 Whitehorse in support for the 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:51.176 establishment of a Chinese cultural 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:53.255 community center here in the city of 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:56.136 Whitehorse. The city of Whitehorse is 00:12:56.160 --> 00:12:58.935 one of Victoria's major Chinese hubs. 00:12:58.959 --> 00:13:01.096 Around 13% of residents here were born 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:03.416 in China and more than a quarter have 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:06.440 Chinese ancestry. In Boxill, close to 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:09.096 half the of the residents have Chinese 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.736 ancestry and around a third were born in 00:13:11.760 --> 00:13:13.255 China. 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:15.815 Yet, there is still no purpose-built 00:13:15.839 --> 00:13:17.656 government-backed Chinese cultural and 00:13:17.680 --> 00:13:20.136 community center here in Whitehorse or 00:13:20.160 --> 00:13:22.456 in the eastern suburbs. 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:25.336 By contrast, other communities have seen 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:27.896 strong investment. For example, the 00:13:27.920 --> 00:13:30.920 Greek Community Center, the Kadima 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.255 Jewish Cultural Center, the Islamic 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:35.656 Museum of Australia, the Vietnamese 00:13:35.680 --> 00:13:38.216 Museum of Australia, and two new Indian 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:39.896 community centers and the Little India 00:13:39.920 --> 00:13:42.696 Precinct. These are all positive 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:45.096 initiatives, but they have highlighted a 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:48.120 gap for the Chinese community here. 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:50.696 Chinese families didn't just move to 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:52.856 Whitehorse. They chose to raise their 00:13:52.880 --> 00:13:55.176 children here and to call this place 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:57.896 home. A Chinese community and cultural 00:13:57.920 --> 00:14:00.375 center would embody their heritage, give 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:03.399 their identity and confidence to future 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:06.216 generations, and honor the contributions 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:09.096 and sacrifices of gener generations 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:12.120 past. It is a way for council to say you 00:14:12.800 --> 00:14:15.255 belong here and your story matters in 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:17.815 the fabric of this city. 00:14:17.839 --> 00:14:20.776 A center would also deliver economic and 00:14:20.800 --> 00:14:22.935 social benefits. It would provide 00:14:22.959 --> 00:14:25.656 year-round space for exhibitions, 00:14:25.680 --> 00:14:28.615 classes, community meetings, extended 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:30.615 China's New Year celebrations that bring 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:32.856 visitors and spending into activity 00:14:32.880 --> 00:14:35.880 centers while fostering genuine cultural 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:39.096 cross-cultural engagement. 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:42.120 In 2024, ABAW hosted an Australian first 00:14:43.680 --> 00:14:46.680 exhibition of 56 traditional Chinese 00:14:46.880 --> 00:14:49.880 cultural dress at Boxill Town Hall. 00:14:50.079 --> 00:14:51.815 Because of cost and limited 00:14:51.839 --> 00:14:54.456 availability, it could only run for one 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:57.480 day. With a dedicated center, that 00:14:57.839 --> 00:15:00.536 exhibition could have run for weeks, 00:15:00.560 --> 00:15:03.416 attracting schools, tourists, and 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:05.815 deepening social cohesion and mutual 00:15:05.839 --> 00:15:07.736 understanding. 00:15:07.760 --> 00:15:10.216 Right now, the Victorian government is 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:12.615 actively investing in multicultural 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:14.615 community infrastructure. 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:16.536 A Chinese cultural community center in 00:15:16.560 --> 00:15:19.016 Whitehorse fits squarely within these 00:15:19.040 --> 00:15:21.016 funding opportunities. 00:15:21.040 --> 00:15:23.896 On behalf of the ABAW, the Chinese 00:15:23.920 --> 00:15:26.615 residents and businesses we work with, I 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.495 respectfully urge council to support the 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:31.255 motion and work with community 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:33.736 organizations to identify a site, a 00:15:33.760 --> 00:15:35.495 partnership model, and to make this 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:37.255 center a reality. 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:40.136 In closing, I would like to thank 00:15:40.160 --> 00:15:43.160 Richard. Thank you. 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:50.360 Our next speaker is Mari from Boxill 00:15:50.959 --> 00:15:53.959 North. I now invite Mari to the lectern. 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:09.896 Thank you Mayor s and counselors. My name 00:16:09.920 --> 00:16:12.696 is Mallerie Suli. My ancestral roots 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:15.175 hell from Xiaomin, China. I was born in 00:16:15.199 --> 00:16:17.255 Pinang, Malaysia, and I've grown up and 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:19.175 lived in Australia for the majority of 00:16:19.199 --> 00:16:21.576 my life. I'm an Australian legal 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:23.016 practitioner, a member of the Chinese 00:16:23.040 --> 00:16:24.856 Youth Society of Melbourne, a senior 00:16:24.880 --> 00:16:26.935 commercial adviser at AL, previous 00:16:26.959 --> 00:16:28.615 co-chair, and a current committee member 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:31.416 of AL Cultures, an employeeled network 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:33.255 that advocates for cultural linguistic 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:36.216 diversity and inclusion. I speak today 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:38.375 as a member of the Chinese community in 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:40.935 Whitehorse. 00:16:40.959 --> 00:16:42.536 I'm speaking in support of the 00:16:42.560 --> 00:16:44.615 establishment of a Chinese community and 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:47.016 cultural center in Whitehorse and I 00:16:47.040 --> 00:16:49.416 will explain why the center must be 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:52.440 named as a Chinese center. 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:55.639 Names matter. They communicate identity, 00:16:55.920 --> 00:16:58.920 belonging, and respect. If this center 00:16:58.959 --> 00:17:00.776 is to honor and preserve Chinese 00:17:00.800 --> 00:17:03.255 heritage, history, language, and 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:05.736 societal contributions, then its name 00:17:05.760 --> 00:17:07.576 must reflect the very community it 00:17:07.600 --> 00:17:09.415 represents. 00:17:09.439 --> 00:17:12.439 Cultural specificity, cultural accuracy 00:17:13.120 --> 00:17:15.496 is not exclusionary. Cultural 00:17:15.520 --> 00:17:18.520 mislabeling and inaccuracy weakens it. 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:22.456 The Whitehorse 2040 community vision 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:24.295 commits to building a diverse and 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:26.535 inclusive community that encompasses the 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:28.535 cultural and linguistic diversity of 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:31.559 all. This can this cannot be achieved if 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:34.616 cultural identities are generalized into 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:37.640 broad regional categories. For example, 00:17:38.320 --> 00:17:40.936 the term Asian, it is not a cultural. 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:43.816 Asia is a region made up of distinct and 00:17:43.840 --> 00:17:46.840 separate cultures. Calling the center 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:50.200 Asian minimizes and homogenizes these 00:17:50.320 --> 00:17:52.936 diverse cultures. It reinforces the 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:54.775 stereotypes that all Asians are the 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:57.096 same, something I have personally lived 00:17:57.120 --> 00:17:58.856 with every day of my life here in 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:01.015 Australia. 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:03.256 No other cultural community is asked to 00:18:03.280 --> 00:18:05.895 dilute the identity. We do not call 00:18:05.919 --> 00:18:08.136 Italian centers European centers or 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:11.160 Indian centers South Asian centers. 00:18:11.360 --> 00:18:13.015 Naming the center as China is not 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:15.176 exclusionary. The center will be open to 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:17.736 people of all ages, generations, 00:18:17.760 --> 00:18:19.736 abilities, genders, background, 00:18:19.760 --> 00:18:22.136 languages, and life experiences. The 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:24.136 programming will be inclusive and 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:26.216 intersectional. It will provide an 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:28.296 opportunity for everyone in Whitehorse 00:18:28.320 --> 00:18:30.216 to learn and engage respectfully with 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:32.616 Chinese culture while also fostering 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:34.696 intercultural dialogue, respect, 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:36.696 understanding, and connection across the 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:39.720 entire community. 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:42.136 The White House integrated council plan 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:43.496 commits to fostering connected, 00:18:43.520 --> 00:18:45.096 inclusive, safe community and to 00:18:45.120 --> 00:18:46.616 transparent, accurate, responsible 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:48.856 governments. Naming the center as a 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:51.655 China center achieves this goal. By 00:18:51.679 --> 00:18:53.256 using the correct name, council will 00:18:53.280 --> 00:18:55.336 demonstrate integrity, cultural respect, 00:18:55.360 --> 00:18:57.655 and alignment with its own commitment to 00:18:57.679 --> 00:18:59.895 support diverse communities through 00:18:59.919 --> 00:19:01.496 meaningful community info in 00:19:01.520 --> 00:19:03.256 infrastructure. 00:19:03.280 --> 00:19:06.056 Cultural specificity and accuracy 00:19:06.080 --> 00:19:08.216 strengthens inclusion. 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:11.240 Thank you. Thank you, Mallerie. 00:19:15.280 --> 00:19:18.280 I now invite our next speaker Gary Chan 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:21.400 from Box Hill to the lectern. 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:36.936 Thank you, Mayor and Councilors. 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:39.960 this evening I will speak on the 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:42.696 proposal for a Chinese community and 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:44.775 cultural center in the city of White 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:47.799 Horse. I'm a fifth generation Australian 00:19:47.919 --> 00:19:49.895 born and bred in Melbourne with my 00:19:49.919 --> 00:19:52.775 ancestors arriving during the mid 19th 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:55.256 century before this nation Australia was 00:19:55.280 --> 00:19:58.280 federated on 1st of January 1901. 00:19:58.640 --> 00:20:00.376 I've engaged in community cultural 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:03.015 activities since 1973 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:04.775 with a deep passion to work with people 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:07.576 of culture, all cultures, the Chinese 00:20:07.600 --> 00:20:09.256 community in cultural practice, history, 00:20:09.280 --> 00:20:11.576 ancestry and social affairs, the many 00:20:11.600 --> 00:20:13.976 Asian communities more broadly. And over 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:16.136 the last 20 years, a breadth of 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:18.136 international communities in social 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:21.160 development and humanitarian actions, 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:23.176 intercultural dialogue, crossber 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:25.096 bridging, collaboration, cooperation 00:20:25.120 --> 00:20:27.816 remain central to my work. 00:20:27.840 --> 00:20:30.056 There is no Chinese community center of 00:20:30.080 --> 00:20:32.135 recognized intent 00:20:32.159 --> 00:20:34.856 in Victoria, as far as I know, despite 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:36.456 our people's long history on this 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:37.976 continent. 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:40.216 Yet, we still know of elderly Chinese 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:41.816 residents who feel isolated due to 00:20:41.840 --> 00:20:43.736 language or cultural barriers, but 00:20:43.760 --> 00:20:45.895 thrive when connected to others through 00:20:45.919 --> 00:20:48.216 activities. We know of newly arrived 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:50.696 families who struggle to adapt, but find 00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:52.535 comfort and support through community 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:55.336 gatherings. We know of young people 00:20:55.360 --> 00:20:57.096 discovering and reconnecting with their 00:20:57.120 --> 00:21:00.120 heritage through the arts in many forms. 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:02.135 So a Chinese community and cultural 00:21:02.159 --> 00:21:04.056 center would bring enormous social 00:21:04.080 --> 00:21:06.696 benefits as an anchor for fostering 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:09.336 inclusion, social connection and 00:21:09.360 --> 00:21:12.056 cultural identity and as a safe space 00:21:12.080 --> 00:21:14.216 for the many demographics that make up 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:15.976 not only just the Chinese community but 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:18.135 also the broader community itself in 00:21:18.159 --> 00:21:20.616 learning appreciation, understanding 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:22.936 and exchange. 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:25.960 it would would also enable um 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:28.696 leadership opportunities for youth, 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:31.720 women marginalized, underrepresented 00:21:31.919 --> 00:21:34.696 groups as they exchanged within the 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.176 Chinese community and beyond in the the 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:40.200 broader society and other communities. 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:42.936 The center will bring in itself Chinese 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:45.816 culture, history and customs to the four 00:21:45.840 --> 00:21:47.976 with a sense of pride to share with 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:50.216 others. 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:52.216 The Chinese community and cultural 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:54.856 center as a vibrant living and breathing 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:56.856 hub for community and cultural life and 00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:59.416 practices would be like community 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:01.336 centers of many Melbourne's many other 00:22:01.360 --> 00:22:04.056 communities a welcome chance to connect 00:22:04.080 --> 00:22:06.376 to bring people together to share life 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:08.696 and cultures creating opportunities to 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:11.256 exchange with others Chinese and all 00:22:11.280 --> 00:22:13.736 other communities alike. The Chinese 00:22:13.760 --> 00:22:15.655 community center, Chinese community and 00:22:15.679 --> 00:22:17.736 cultural center will be a destination 00:22:17.760 --> 00:22:20.760 for many and a hub of pride for the city 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:23.176 of Whitehorse and all of its people. 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:25.895 Thank you. 00:22:25.919 --> 00:22:28.919 Thank you, Gary. 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:35.015 Our next speaker is Belinda Stooper on 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:37.816 the land use and planning matter. I now 00:22:37.840 --> 00:22:40.840 invite Belinda to the lecton. 00:22:43.760 --> 00:22:46.760 I'm Belinda Stoer 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:50.376 proposal site which is being discussed 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:53.400 here tonight. I and over 160 residents 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:55.655 have voiced our opposition to this 00:22:55.679 --> 00:22:57.816 permit application and I'm appealing to 00:22:57.840 --> 00:23:00.775 the councilors to do so too. My main 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:02.696 objection to this application is its 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:05.096 sensitive location and its detrimental 00:23:05.120 --> 00:23:06.936 effect on the amenity of surrounding 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:09.816 residents and park users. It is the last 00:23:09.840 --> 00:23:12.135 site in the commercial zone bordering 00:23:12.159 --> 00:23:14.456 with the start of the residential zone. 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:16.216 It backs right onto residential 00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:17.976 properties and is around the corner from 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.376 a residential street which the applicant 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:22.856 is singling out for parking due to the 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:25.880 extremely limited on-site parking. It is 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:27.736 also next to a park with a children's 00:23:27.760 --> 00:23:29.736 playground and very close to a major 00:23:29.760 --> 00:23:32.760 school PLC. My biggest issue is patrons 00:23:33.280 --> 00:23:35.655 parking in Rosland Street, the closest 00:23:35.679 --> 00:23:38.535 on street parking. The proposed signage 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:40.775 specifically directs patrons to park in 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:43.096 Rosland Street. At the bottom, there is 00:23:43.120 --> 00:23:45.336 a request to not park in the residential 00:23:45.360 --> 00:23:47.895 park, which is a fast as there are only 00:23:47.919 --> 00:23:50.775 two spaces that qualify as this in front 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:52.456 of the currently vacant lot on the 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:54.936 corner. This is slated for development 00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:57.256 and once built there will be no spaces 00:23:57.280 --> 00:23:59.976 not in the residential park. In front of 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:01.895 the park on Rosland Street is a no 00:24:01.919 --> 00:24:03.976 stopping zone and I foresee patrons 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:07.000 parking here as the closest spaces. If 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:08.936 against better judgment the application 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:11.096 is approved, I submit that a condition 00:24:11.120 --> 00:24:13.416 is that the signage be changed to advise 00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:16.056 patrons to park opposite in Millison 00:24:16.080 --> 00:24:18.696 Street only and not the adjoining 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:20.535 residential streets of Rosland and 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:22.775 Edwards. This should be echoed in social 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:25.799 media etc. In the attached plans, it 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:27.736 shows that currently there is only one 00:24:27.760 --> 00:24:29.976 car park space outside of the building 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:31.816 whereas there are actually three to four 00:24:31.840 --> 00:24:34.840 spaces. The proposed plan shows only two 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:37.336 spaces. I submit that the three to four 00:24:37.360 --> 00:24:39.015 spaces should be retained should the 00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:41.655 proposal be approved. I am most 00:24:41.679 --> 00:24:43.496 concerned about the noise generated from 00:24:43.520 --> 00:24:45.496 on street car parking users in front of 00:24:45.520 --> 00:24:47.655 our properties, especially late at night 00:24:47.679 --> 00:24:49.416 with the very annoying and very audible 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:51.976 car doors banging. The proposed closing 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:54.135 hours of operation, even the revised 00:24:54.159 --> 00:24:56.376 Sunday to Thursday ones as a condition, 00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:58.376 are still after bedtime hours for us 00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:00.936 residents and will cause a disturbance, 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:02.856 particularly as mine and the nearest 00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:04.535 properties to the proposal have our 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:07.096 bedroom windows at the front. The other 00:25:07.120 --> 00:25:09.096 pool halls located in the city of White 00:25:09.120 --> 00:25:10.936 Horse are all located in commercial 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:13.416 zones well away from residential areas 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:15.176 and can support late night operating 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.056 hours, not this proposal. I submit that 00:25:18.080 --> 00:25:19.895 if approved, a condition is placed to 00:25:19.919 --> 00:25:22.775 further reduce the closing hours. 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:25.176 Also in the report, the officers list 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.255 some other establishments in Burwood 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:29.816 Village who have late operating hours, 00:25:29.840 --> 00:25:31.576 which is acceptable for those as they're 00:25:31.600 --> 00:25:33.336 in the heart of the village and their 00:25:33.360 --> 00:25:35.736 entrances are directly onto the highway. 00:25:35.760 --> 00:25:37.496 Whereas this proposal is at the very end 00:25:37.520 --> 00:25:39.176 of the village with the entrance further 00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:41.736 back closer to the adjoining residences 00:25:41.760 --> 00:25:43.736 next to the children's playground in the 00:25:43.760 --> 00:25:45.655 park. There are no other nighttime 00:25:45.679 --> 00:25:47.096 operations anywhere near 00:25:47.120 --> 00:25:48.936 Belinda. You've now come to the end of 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.960 your three minutes. Thank you. 00:25:56.320 --> 00:25:58.296 Our next speaker is Robin Ferninand's 00:25:58.320 --> 00:26:01.320 Nonawwarding Cricket Club. 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:05.960 I invite Robin to the lecton. 00:26:12.159 --> 00:26:13.976 Thank you for the opportunity to speak 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:15.895 tonight at this council meeting. 00:26:15.919 --> 00:26:17.255 Congratulations on your recent 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.015 appointment to Mayor Langford and 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:21.496 Deputy Mayor Simpson. My name is Rob 00:26:21.520 --> 00:26:22.856 Ferdinands and I'm the president of 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:25.416 Nawading Cricket Club. First established 00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:27.496 in 1927, 00:26:27.520 --> 00:26:29.655 our familyfriendly and highly inclusive 00:26:29.679 --> 00:26:31.816 club provides an opportunity for anyone 00:26:31.840 --> 00:26:34.616 to play cricket. We are here tonight to 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:36.456 highlight the urgent need to upgrade our 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:39.416 facilities at man's reserve forest hill. 00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:41.096 We share the northern pavilion and 00:26:41.120 --> 00:26:43.496 grounds with another city football club. 00:26:43.520 --> 00:26:45.096 Their president Dennis is also here 00:26:45.120 --> 00:26:47.176 tonight and would like to provide an 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:48.535 overview of some of the issues we both 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:50.216 face and the reasons why an upgrade of 00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:52.456 this facility should be prioritized by 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:55.176 council. At both our clubs, we've 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.200 invested heavily in our female programs. 00:26:58.240 --> 00:26:59.736 At our cricket club, we have grown our 00:26:59.760 --> 00:27:01.336 number of participants from three junior 00:27:01.360 --> 00:27:04.216 girls and no senior women to 49 junior 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.240 girls and 25 senior women in just 5 00:27:07.840 --> 00:27:10.216 years. Our long-term goal is to have an 00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:11.895 equal number of male and female players 00:27:11.919 --> 00:27:14.856 at our club and we are well on the way. 00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:16.696 However, to do this, we urgently need to 00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:19.176 upgrade our facilities. We currently 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:20.936 have no female friendly change 00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:23.655 facilities. In fact, we have only two 00:27:23.679 --> 00:27:26.216 male change rooms to cater for at time 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.240 six teams, three home and three away. To 00:27:29.760 --> 00:27:31.336 continue to attract new participants and 00:27:31.360 --> 00:27:33.496 retain our current female participants, 00:27:33.520 --> 00:27:35.096 this issue needs to be addressed as soon 00:27:35.120 --> 00:27:37.976 as possible. Our current pavilion also 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:40.535 does not have disabled access. There is 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:42.775 no lift to the second story. All 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:45.416 doorways have large concrete lips and 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.296 there are no disabled toilets at all. 00:27:48.320 --> 00:27:49.576 One of our current members has a 00:27:49.600 --> 00:27:51.496 wheelchairbound daughter who is unable 00:27:51.520 --> 00:27:54.520 to attend club events as a result. One 00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:56.375 of our short-term goals is also to 00:27:56.399 --> 00:27:58.216 introduce an allabilities cricket 00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:00.056 program, but we are unable to cater for 00:28:00.080 --> 00:28:01.895 this segment of the community till this 00:28:01.919 --> 00:28:04.616 issue is addressed. The rapid growth of 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:06.616 our female cricket programs has also put 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.015 pressure on our cricket nets too. With 00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:11.176 nine teams now in total to get through 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:13.576 training each week, our three existing 00:28:13.600 --> 00:28:15.496 nets are inadequate to cater for numbers 00:28:15.520 --> 00:28:17.015 and limit some training and coaching 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:18.456 activities and potentially future 00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:21.015 growth. Our one club policy encourages 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:22.616 our senior men and women and older 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:24.775 juniors to all train together once a 00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.655 week. This now sees over 60 players 00:28:27.679 --> 00:28:29.496 coming together on a Thursday night, 00:28:29.520 --> 00:28:31.176 making it difficult to complete training 00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:32.775 in the time available with only three 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.799 nets before we lose light. 00:28:37.360 --> 00:28:38.856 The issues I've mentioned are not new 00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.416 issues. We've been very patient while 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:43.816 the master man's reserve master plan 00:28:43.840 --> 00:28:46.840 took priority. We understand this is a 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.255 complex exercise. However, the pavilion 00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:51.176 upgrade project was initiated more than 00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.015 two years ago and the cricket net 00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.039 upgrade touted slightly before that. 00:28:56.159 --> 00:28:57.816 Current timelines suggest nothing will 00:28:57.840 --> 00:29:00.840 start now till the end of 2027. 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:02.375 Nutawatting Cricket Club and the 00:29:02.399 --> 00:29:04.535 Nutawading City Football Club would 00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:06.456 appreciate council prioritizing these 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.216 projects so we can approach state and 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:10.056 local government representatives for 00:29:10.080 --> 00:29:11.976 financial support to help the council 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:13.655 complete them as soon as possible. 00:29:13.679 --> 00:29:14.375 Thanks for your time. 00:29:14.399 --> 00:29:17.399 Thank you, Robin. 00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:20.216 Our final speaker tonight is David Lewis 00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:22.696 from the Vermont Men's Shed 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.416 Incorporated. I now invite David to the 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.440 lectern. 00:29:31.120 --> 00:29:33.336 Greetings counselors. My name is David 00:29:33.360 --> 00:29:35.416 Lewis. I am the president of the Vermont 00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:38.135 men shed currently located behind the 00:29:38.159 --> 00:29:40.296 uniting church in Vermont on Canterbury 00:29:40.320 --> 00:29:42.616 Road. The shed was started by the 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.856 Uniting Church almost 13 years ago as 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.416 part of the community center. When the 00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:49.816 church closed in 2022 and planned to 00:29:49.840 --> 00:29:51.816 sell the property, it chose to keep 00:29:51.840 --> 00:29:54.535 supporting the men's shed because of 00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:57.176 its value. That support will continue 00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.200 until the 30th of June 2026. 00:30:00.320 --> 00:30:02.056 The Vermont men's shed is largely 00:30:02.080 --> 00:30:04.856 self-funded, having received only two 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.096 grants from the state government and tip 00:30:07.120 --> 00:30:09.255 vouchers from the council. We have 80 00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:11.655 members, operate three days a week, and 00:30:11.679 --> 00:30:13.496 are now financially stable and 00:30:13.520 --> 00:30:16.520 independently run. Our shed sits between 00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:18.696 several others. Glen Wavely, Roville, 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:21.176 Cudon, Cudon North, Ringwood, Ringwood 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:24.200 North, um, Doncaster. And so we support 00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.456 a large part of the Melbourne's eastern 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.056 suburbs. 00:30:28.080 --> 00:30:29.976 Men's sheds play a vital role in 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:32.775 supporting men men's mental health by 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.176 giving them a place to connect, talk, 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.096 and work together. 00:30:37.120 --> 00:30:39.736 at Vermont. Our shed has helped several 00:30:39.760 --> 00:30:42.760 u suicides help prevent several suicides 00:30:43.120 --> 00:30:45.736 and supports men of all backgrounds 00:30:45.760 --> 00:30:48.375 including many with disabilities. 00:30:48.399 --> 00:30:50.296 We must leave our current site by June 00:30:50.320 --> 00:30:52.775 30th. For more than two years, we have 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:55.255 planned to relocate to the Cape for 00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:58.135 Dresca Farm and Morak Road to establish 00:30:58.159 --> 00:31:00.775 a major community hub. However, 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.015 government funding delays and grants 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.176 being directed elsewhere mean that the 00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.336 support promised for this project has 00:31:07.360 --> 00:31:10.135 not arrived. Without a new location, the 00:31:10.159 --> 00:31:13.159 Vermont men's shed will probably close. 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:15.976 We urgently need a new home and some 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.000 funding. A total of $250,000 00:31:19.520 --> 00:31:22.056 would secure the entire project into the 00:31:22.080 --> 00:31:23.736 long term. 00:31:23.760 --> 00:31:26.760 Any available accommodation would allow 00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:28.775 us to continue our work in the short 00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:30.056 term. 00:31:30.080 --> 00:31:32.135 Supporting the shed is a low cost 00:31:32.159 --> 00:31:34.216 compared to the expense of providing 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.696 mental health services. Vermont men's 00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.255 shed has 80 members. The forest hill 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:40.856 wood turners with whom we work very 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:43.880 closely have 45. Any help from the city 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.775 of Whitehorse would direct support to 00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:48.775 125 men. 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.176 We want to continue this valuable work 00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:52.936 and we hope that the city of Whitehorse 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:55.960 will partner with us to develop this 00:31:56.080 --> 00:31:59.080 service and keep it running as it grows. 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:02.200 I thank you for your time. 00:32:03.360 --> 00:32:06.056 Thank you, David. 00:32:06.080 --> 00:32:08.056 Item seven, public question time. We 00:32:08.080 --> 00:32:09.816 have one public question this evening 00:32:09.840 --> 00:32:12.216 submitted by someone who wants to remain 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.616 anonymous. The question will be read out 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.255 and responded to by Jeff Green, director 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:19.255 of city development. Jeff, could you 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:20.856 please come to the lecton and address 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.336 this question? Thank you, Mayor . The 00:32:23.360 --> 00:32:25.336 question is, is council considering a 00:32:25.360 --> 00:32:27.976 review of its street parking enforcement 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.296 and appeals processes, including the use 00:32:30.320 --> 00:32:33.255 of grace periods and officer discretion. 00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.015 There are ongoing community concerns 00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.176 that the current appeals framework can 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.976 be inaccessible, non-transparent, and 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.296 difficult to navigate, particularly for 00:32:42.320 --> 00:32:43.576 residents from multicultural 00:32:43.600 --> 00:32:46.216 backgrounds. Through your Mayor , white 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.535 horse parking officers apply discretion 00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.015 when undertaking parking enforcement. 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:52.856 The infringements appeals process is 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:54.456 required to operate in line with the 00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:57.480 infringements act 2006 and attorney 00:32:57.919 --> 00:33:00.056 general guidelines. To support 00:33:00.080 --> 00:33:01.736 accessibility, council's website 00:33:01.760 --> 00:33:04.056 includes translation functions that 00:33:04.080 --> 00:33:06.456 allow all written information to be 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.775 converted into multiple languages. 00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:10.936 Additional interpreter services are also 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.096 available for community members who 00:33:13.120 --> 00:33:16.120 require assistance. Thank you, Mayor . 00:33:16.320 --> 00:33:18.775 Thank you, Jet. 00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:20.775 Item eight. 00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:23.015 Item eight, petitions. We have no 00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:25.416 petitions this evening. Item nine, 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.056 notice of motion. We have two notices of 00:33:28.080 --> 00:33:31.080 motion tonight. 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.799 Item 9.1, advocacy advocacy priorities. 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:38.696 Can we have a counselor to move this 00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:39.655 motion? 00:33:39.679 --> 00:33:41.655 , so moved, Mayor . 00:33:41.679 --> 00:33:43.576 Thank you, councelor Davenport, and a 00:33:43.600 --> 00:33:44.216 second. 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:45.416 Happy to second, Mayor . 00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.440 Thank you, Deputy Mayor Simpson. 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:53.000 Well, , thank you, Mayor . And um 00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:55.176 tonight's about calling for a report 00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.200 about making adjustments to our advocacy 00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:00.616 priorities um that we go to the state 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.255 election campaign about. Now, I was one 00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:05.416 of the counselors that voted to retain 00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:07.816 Davy Lane as one of our advocacy pri 00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:10.055 priorities for the federal election 00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:13.079 because at the time um I knew I knew 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.135 that there was interest that was being 00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.159 considered by um a local member of 00:34:19.359 --> 00:34:22.359 parliament at the time and um it's 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.375 important that we work with other 00:34:24.399 --> 00:34:27.095 members of par members of parliament and 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.095 different levels of government so we can 00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.496 get our projects across the line. But 00:34:31.520 --> 00:34:34.520 what that um federal election showed me 00:34:35.200 --> 00:34:37.256 was that the Liberal Party only put up 4 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.280 mil out of 10 and Labour put up nothing, 00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:44.599 no interest at all with Davy Lane to 00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.960 fund that particular program. 00:34:49.040 --> 00:34:52.040 And as previous Mayor of the city of 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.615 Whitehorse, one of my roles was to 00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:57.639 undertake advocacy on behalf of our city 00:34:58.160 --> 00:35:01.160 um to talk about upcoming projects and 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.599 and areas of interest that our local 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.960 members and and of parliament, state 00:35:08.240 --> 00:35:11.240 and federal, um would like to see so we 00:35:11.520 --> 00:35:14.520 can put up partnership opportunities 00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.880 where local members um and in also 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.335 candidates as they come up um would 00:35:21.359 --> 00:35:24.136 advocate for us to do. Now, what I can 00:35:24.160 --> 00:35:27.160 report so far is that I've had a lot of 00:35:28.240 --> 00:35:31.240 questions about Walker Park, questions 00:35:32.160 --> 00:35:34.456 about Bel Shannesy, 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.480 questions about Bennettwood, and a lot 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.760 of questions about Man's Reserve and the 00:35:41.040 --> 00:35:44.040 preservation of high ball sports in that 00:35:45.040 --> 00:35:48.040 particular facility. 00:35:48.160 --> 00:35:50.856 Zero questions 00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:53.496 about Davy Lane. Zero questions about 00:35:53.520 --> 00:35:56.520 Davy Lane. Now, I can't really read into 00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.016 too much on whether or not that those 00:35:59.040 --> 00:36:01.656 items will turn into projects or 00:36:01.680 --> 00:36:03.896 commitments, but what I can say is this 00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:06.536 is that there is more interest on other 00:36:06.560 --> 00:36:08.376 projects that we have. And so, 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:10.776 councilors, in my view, we should be 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:12.696 ready to take advantage of any 00:36:12.720 --> 00:36:14.616 opportunities that come up. Now, we've 00:36:14.640 --> 00:36:17.016 currently committed in our advocacy 00:36:17.040 --> 00:36:19.496 documents $10 million for Davy Lane. 00:36:19.520 --> 00:36:22.216 Looking for another 10 or so million 00:36:22.240 --> 00:36:25.240 from the another level of government. I 00:36:25.680 --> 00:36:27.335 find it difficult that we're going to 00:36:27.359 --> 00:36:30.359 get that the upcoming state campaign. 00:36:30.640 --> 00:36:32.776 Very difficult. from the conversations 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:35.335 I've had, the fact that the the the 00:36:35.359 --> 00:36:38.359 money's tight in the state um government 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:41.800 coffers and there are other bigger 00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.079 projects in our city. 00:36:45.200 --> 00:36:48.200 Basketball being the main game of town 00:36:49.200 --> 00:36:51.496 is that we need to be focused on what 00:36:51.520 --> 00:36:53.736 we're asking for and we should go after 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:56.536 the big game in town which is basketball 00:36:56.560 --> 00:36:58.216 because we've already got federal 00:36:58.240 --> 00:37:01.240 funding. And then we have funding 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.536 available for smaller projects. And that 00:37:04.560 --> 00:37:06.936 unfortunately in my view would leave 00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:08.936 Davy Lane out of the list because it's 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:11.575 it it's not in that sweet spot of 00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:13.416 funding. 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:16.055 What I'm not asking for tonight is to 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:17.736 say right, cancel Davy Lane and 00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:20.216 reallocate the funding elsewhere. I've 00:37:20.240 --> 00:37:21.976 asked for a report to say well where 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.000 should we be um increasing our funding 00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:28.760 so we can best work with um federal 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:31.496 members I should say state members of 00:37:31.520 --> 00:37:33.496 parliament and candidates so we can get 00:37:33.520 --> 00:37:35.256 election commitments for the upcoming 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:36.856 campaign 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.880 and so to so tonight it's a vote about 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.536 receiving a report to say okay if we got 00:37:44.560 --> 00:37:47.560 Davy Lane off the list what would happen 00:37:48.160 --> 00:37:50.136 to our sports fields, you know, 00:37:50.160 --> 00:37:51.896 availability going forward. What would 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.920 the impact be? But then where could we 00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:57.976 um have those funds available to 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.000 maximize our chance of a another 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:04.280 commitment from a state member of 00:38:04.560 --> 00:38:06.616 parliament or a candidate in the 00:38:06.640 --> 00:38:08.456 upcoming state elections? Now's the 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.480 right time to do that work because we 00:38:11.520 --> 00:38:14.055 want to be ready to react and to take 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:17.079 advantage of opportunities that come up. 00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:19.896 And that's what the idea is behind this 00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.776 motion tonight. I do ask for your 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:24.856 support so we can get this report back 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:26.776 and I'm hoping we'll get that back quite 00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.800 quickly to be able to make a decision on 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:33.575 what to do with our advocacy going 00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.599 forward. Thank you councilors. 00:38:38.240 --> 00:38:39.976 I now ask for the second to speak. 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:42.296 Yes, ma'am. 00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.136 Oh, sorry. 00:38:44.160 --> 00:38:47.016 Thank you, ma'am. Just following on from 00:38:47.040 --> 00:38:48.696 the comments that councelor Davenport's 00:38:48.720 --> 00:38:50.616 already made, council is this this issue 00:38:50.640 --> 00:38:52.536 is really about two things. The best use 00:38:52.560 --> 00:38:55.496 of land and the best use of money. 00:38:55.520 --> 00:38:57.416 Now, I heard I heard some remarks early 00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:59.416 tonight that this is a lifeless piece of 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.136 land. And I must respectfully disagree 00:39:02.160 --> 00:39:04.936 with those comments. This oval sits at 00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.960 the end of a very important piece of um 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:10.136 of our local environment being the 00:39:10.160 --> 00:39:12.616 Hillsville corridor. 00:39:12.640 --> 00:39:14.376 It's very important. It's it's not 00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:16.296 lifeless. It has plenty of local 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.320 habitat, biodiversity, etc. And this 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:21.896 goes to a point I've made in this place 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.616 a few times already that we will have 00:39:24.640 --> 00:39:27.496 competing claims on land. We will 00:39:27.520 --> 00:39:30.520 have competing interests and we need 00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:32.376 to figure out the best way to manage 00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:35.400 that. And so I'm not unsympathetic to 00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.136 the claims that we need to develop this 00:39:38.160 --> 00:39:40.055 facility to help facilitate better 00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:43.079 sporting use. I understand those claims. 00:39:43.359 --> 00:39:44.856 But we know councilors that we have 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:46.456 achieved some success with joint user 00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:48.936 agreements already with with Mirabuka 00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:51.736 Reserve. We could potentially look at 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:52.856 trying to have one with Vermont 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.936 Secondary College for example or another 00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:57.960 location. And in that way we are better 00:39:58.240 --> 00:40:00.376 utilizing land that has already been 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.696 purposed for sporting whilst also 00:40:02.720 --> 00:40:05.720 allowing Davy Lane to remain as is 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.896 for its environmental benefits to the 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.376 community as well. 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:11.815 But also, councilors, as I said, this is 00:40:11.839 --> 00:40:13.736 about best use of money. As councelor 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:15.656 Davenport's already alluded to, we've 00:40:15.680 --> 00:40:18.136 had next to nothing in terms of interest 00:40:18.160 --> 00:40:20.856 from other tiers of government. We are 00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:22.936 locking up potentially 11 million of our 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.335 rate payers money and not achieving 00:40:25.359 --> 00:40:27.656 anything of value for it. Now, we've 00:40:27.680 --> 00:40:29.736 heard from one speaker tonight about um 00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.055 much needed upgrades for cricket at 00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:34.616 Mish Reserve. I'm sympathetic to those 00:40:34.640 --> 00:40:37.256 comments as well. But also council as we 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:38.616 know we've been approached with respect 00:40:38.640 --> 00:40:40.296 to Manish Reserve and the master plan 00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:41.976 and the desire to keep indoor tennis 00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:45.000 there table tennis sorry now if we 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.296 wanted to do that as an option sure but 00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:49.976 it's going to cost money where do we get 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.616 the money from why do table tennis 00:40:52.640 --> 00:40:55.575 people have to suffer so that we lock up 00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:58.295 $11 million for nothing? We have to be 00:40:58.319 --> 00:41:00.456 fair. We have to be equitable. And 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:01.815 fundamentally this is what this motion 00:41:01.839 --> 00:41:04.055 is about. understanding where we are 00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.079 now, noting where we have been. 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:09.736 Maybe there was interest in the past, 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.536 there's absolutely no interest now 00:41:12.560 --> 00:41:15.560 from tiers of government. There's also 00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:18.295 um I would argue some local community 00:41:18.319 --> 00:41:21.319 opposition to this project as well. So 00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.016 councilors, this is about best use of 00:41:23.040 --> 00:41:24.936 land and best use of money. It's not 00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:27.016 about saying no to future sporting 00:41:27.040 --> 00:41:28.776 generations. 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:30.376 It's about saying what is the best way 00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:33.095 to help achieve those objectives and 00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:34.616 councilors I urge you to please support 00:41:34.640 --> 00:41:36.456 councelor Davenport's motion so we can 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.480 sort that out. Thank you. 00:41:39.839 --> 00:41:41.976 I now ask for other speakers the motion. 00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:43.416 Thank you ma'am. 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:44.376 Councelor Stennet. 00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.400 Yeah, I'm speaking against this. Um it's 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:49.736 a complete waste of our council officers 00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:52.760 time. Um, how many times do we need to 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.256 reprosecute the same arguments and come 00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:56.616 back to the chamber and have these 00:41:56.640 --> 00:41:59.016 debates when we've clearly had the 00:41:59.040 --> 00:42:01.176 argument extensively 00:42:01.200 --> 00:42:03.256 and we've already determined the future 00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:05.976 for Davy Lane over over a great many 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.000 years and recently in this term of 00:42:09.520 --> 00:42:11.016 council with this group of counselors. 00:42:11.040 --> 00:42:12.456 It's not as if it's just been in the 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:14.136 last term of council and we're just 00:42:14.160 --> 00:42:15.736 revisiting again. We've we have 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.760 revisited um so councelor councelors 00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.736 Simpsons talked about 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:25.416 um 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:26.936 it seems to be a bit of a conflict 00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:29.960 between what councelor Simpson Davenport 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.456 was saying and this sort of trying to 00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:34.536 say one thing and not the other. Clearly 00:42:34.560 --> 00:42:37.560 um the intent here is about Davy Lane 00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:40.216 and what what its future use should be 00:42:40.240 --> 00:42:41.976 and removing it as a White House 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.616 advocacy priority um isn't about whether 00:42:44.640 --> 00:42:46.136 there's interest or not interest. I can 00:42:46.160 --> 00:42:47.896 see clearly through that smoke screen 00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:50.776 and what this is really about. Um 00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:53.800 whether or not um there's a current 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:55.335 interest or not, whether councelor 00:42:55.359 --> 00:42:57.256 Davenport has personally received any 00:42:57.280 --> 00:42:59.496 questions, I don't care. Um this there's 00:42:59.520 --> 00:43:00.856 a long time between now and the next 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:02.536 state election. Who knows what will 00:43:02.560 --> 00:43:03.976 happen between now and then. Who knows 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.000 who the leader of the opposition or the 00:43:07.040 --> 00:43:08.376 you know leader of the government will 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:10.216 be. Um that could change between now and 00:43:10.240 --> 00:43:13.176 then. Um who knows 00:43:13.200 --> 00:43:14.776 um what will happen between now and then 00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:16.456 and which c which candidates will come 00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:18.055 forward and what they're interested in. 00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:19.256 They could be interested in our 00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:21.095 priorities as stated or they could look 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:22.616 at our capital works for the next 10 or 00:43:22.640 --> 00:43:24.616 15 years and cherrypick something off a 00:43:24.640 --> 00:43:27.640 list that's happened before. Um, clearly 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:31.256 we've already decided on our advocacy 00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:32.776 priorities, we've already decided on the 00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:35.800 future of Davy Lane. I think continually 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.295 revisiting and undermining our previous 00:43:38.319 --> 00:43:40.776 decisions that we've recently only made 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:43.800 just makes us look foolish. Um, there 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.216 are opportunities on a regular basis for 00:43:46.240 --> 00:43:49.095 councilors to revisit our advocacy 00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:50.856 priorities and if counselors want to 00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:52.295 make a different decision in the future, 00:43:52.319 --> 00:43:55.095 that's fine. But right now we've I I 00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.119 think we need to progress with our 00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:00.936 current list of priorities. Otherwise, 00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:03.335 we're chopping and changing. We we are 00:44:03.359 --> 00:44:05.815 definitely sending mixed messages to our 00:44:05.839 --> 00:44:07.656 community and to members of parliament 00:44:07.680 --> 00:44:09.095 about what's important and not 00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:11.496 important. And they won't know what to 00:44:11.520 --> 00:44:13.176 support in the future if we start 00:44:13.200 --> 00:44:16.200 removing things arbitrarily. Um not, you 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:18.776 know, just a few months after deciding 00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:21.800 this is a priority. 00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:26.760 Are there any other to the motion? 00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:28.936 Speaking against, Mayor , um, some of the 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:30.776 arguments I've heard tonight I find, um, 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:33.095 incredibly curious. Our advocacy 00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:35.496 priorities aren't some sort of ephemeral 00:44:35.520 --> 00:44:37.496 thing that just sort of comes and goes. 00:44:37.520 --> 00:44:39.256 It's not the latest shiny object that 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:42.136 sort of floats past us. These have been 00:44:42.160 --> 00:44:44.616 developed after thousands of hours of 00:44:44.640 --> 00:44:47.416 consultation, many, many hours of 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.976 detailed analysis of sporting patterns 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:53.000 of everything. And you know to suggest 00:44:53.359 --> 00:44:55.095 that this is about football and cricket 00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:56.936 to say this is a binary argument is one 00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:58.536 of the most foolish things I think I've 00:44:58.560 --> 00:45:00.536 ever heard in this place because these 00:45:00.560 --> 00:45:02.616 ovals are not just binary places for 00:45:02.640 --> 00:45:05.095 football and cricket as impressed as I 00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:08.119 must say I found um Mr. Tui and Mr. 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.136 magenta tonight because there sporting 00:45:12.160 --> 00:45:13.976 ovals near me now they've got on demand 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:15.416 lights they used from 6:00 in the 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:17.256 morning till 10:00 at night for 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:20.280 meditation felon dar we use them for tai 00:45:20.560 --> 00:45:23.335 chi they're used for dog walking they're 00:45:23.359 --> 00:45:25.815 used for just walking they're used for 00:45:25.839 --> 00:45:27.176 cricket they're used for footy they're 00:45:27.200 --> 00:45:28.936 used for soccer they're used for frisbee 00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.656 you name it they are used all the time 00:45:31.680 --> 00:45:33.575 these are meeting places they are not 00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:35.575 sporting fields some people need to 00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:37.656 understand the way facilities are used 00:45:37.680 --> 00:45:39.575 here now let me go back to cricket and 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:42.295 football which you know I'm I deeply 00:45:42.319 --> 00:45:44.456 love. 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:47.176 Mark my words counselors in this in this 00:45:47.200 --> 00:45:49.335 in the in the in the trajectory of our 00:45:49.359 --> 00:45:51.976 great society there has been no more 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.000 powerful action for an equal society and 00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:59.480 women's rights than people like um Mr. 00:45:59.839 --> 00:46:01.815 Tui Mr. Gentto that spoke tonight and 00:46:01.839 --> 00:46:04.456 thousands of others like them. We talk 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.696 about the universal suffrage petition, 00:46:06.720 --> 00:46:09.335 the petition for women's rights to vote. 00:46:09.359 --> 00:46:11.416 Well, let me tell you, change doesn't 00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:12.856 happen with politicians. It doesn't 00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:14.776 happen in here, counselors. It happens 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.016 out there. It happens out there where 00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:18.936 where little boys and little girls know 00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:20.536 that they can play footy, they can play 00:46:20.560 --> 00:46:22.536 cricket, they can be a brain surgeon, 00:46:22.560 --> 00:46:25.095 they can be a fighter pilot. 00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:27.496 Change happens in footy clubs and 00:46:27.520 --> 00:46:29.896 cricket clubs. I've seen it in my own 00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.856 with my own eyes. I've felt it. And it's 00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:34.696 made our society a better one and a 00:46:34.720 --> 00:46:37.335 fairer one. One that I want to raise my 00:46:37.359 --> 00:46:39.896 granddaughters in. And that's thanks to 00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.376 these people. And unless we provide them 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:44.376 with the space 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:46.456 to make these societal changes, it'll 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:48.856 never happen. Might as well run out of 00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:51.880 puff. Blow out the candle now because 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.000 that's what you're talking about. 00:46:55.200 --> 00:46:57.496 Some of the most important people and I 00:46:57.520 --> 00:46:59.095 thank you for your contribution. And I 00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:01.016 thank everyone like you right across our 00:47:01.040 --> 00:47:02.936 city, right across our state and our 00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:04.936 country that have made our country a 00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.416 better place because of people like you. 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.736 Selfless people like you that understand 00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:11.736 that sporting fields are just about the 00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:13.575 game to start with, but they're about 00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:15.496 improving people's lives. They're about 00:47:15.520 --> 00:47:17.335 making our society better. And you want 00:47:17.359 --> 00:47:20.216 to come in here and trash 00:47:20.240 --> 00:47:22.055 the priorities, the advocacy priorities 00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:24.136 that thousands of hours and detailed 00:47:24.160 --> 00:47:26.136 scientific evidence have been put into? 00:47:26.160 --> 00:47:28.936 Not tonight, councilors. 00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:30.376 Any other speakers to the motion? 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:31.095 Yes, Mayor . 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:32.536 Thank you, councelor Martin. 00:47:32.560 --> 00:47:33.736 That's going to be a tough one to 00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:36.295 follow. Um, yeah, look, tonight I just 00:47:36.319 --> 00:47:37.575 want to begin with a simple question. 00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.815 Who is our customer and who are we here 00:47:39.839 --> 00:47:42.376 to serve? So, it's not the politicians. 00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:44.536 It's not shifting electoral wins. It's 00:47:44.560 --> 00:47:46.216 not the outcome of one federal election. 00:47:46.240 --> 00:47:48.295 Our responsibility is and must always be 00:47:48.319 --> 00:47:50.616 to the community of Whitehorse. In 00:47:50.640 --> 00:47:52.856 2024, the council endor endorse its 00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:54.536 advocacy priorities in this chamber and 00:47:54.560 --> 00:47:56.936 after careful assessment as as councelor 00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:58.696 Barker has said. Now following the 00:47:58.720 --> 00:47:59.976 federal election, we suddenly find 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:01.575 ourselves questioning a major project 00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:04.055 that has long been identified as needed. 00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:05.736 And I I ask the same thing. What are we 00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:07.896 doing? What message are we sending to 00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:09.656 our community if we abandon a project 00:48:09.680 --> 00:48:11.095 simply because it did not receive 00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:13.896 funding on its first attempt? I'm deeply 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:15.416 concerned that this motion singles out 00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:17.496 one project, Davy Lane, without any 00:48:17.520 --> 00:48:19.656 strategic review of all advocacy 00:48:19.680 --> 00:48:21.496 projects, which we've we've already 00:48:21.520 --> 00:48:24.376 done. This is not good process. It is 00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:26.616 not good governance, and it risks 00:48:26.640 --> 00:48:29.016 becoming political and opportunistic at 00:48:29.040 --> 00:48:30.616 the very moment our community needs 00:48:30.640 --> 00:48:33.640 clarity, consistency, and courage. 00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:35.575 Councilors, our job is not to give up 00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:38.136 halfway through the race because we hit 00:48:38.160 --> 00:48:40.456 a hurdle. Our community expects us to 00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:42.856 run the whole distance. If we vote for 00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:44.216 this motion tonight, we are signaling 00:48:44.240 --> 00:48:45.656 that we are stepping back from Davy 00:48:45.680 --> 00:48:47.416 Lane. That's what we're doing. A 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:49.815 precinct that has served sport for 40 00:48:49.839 --> 00:48:52.295 years. A sporting precinct that still 00:48:52.319 --> 00:48:53.976 has no toilet facilities for cricket 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.216 during summer. So, we can go through 00:48:56.240 --> 00:48:57.496 some of the stats. So, we know that 00:48:57.520 --> 00:48:59.095 Whitehorse is experiencing significant 00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:01.416 growth in sports participation. 00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:04.295 Outdoor sports participation is up 5.5% 00:49:04.319 --> 00:49:07.319 in the last 12 months. AFL teams have gr 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:09.815 female teams have grown from seven in 00:49:09.839 --> 00:49:12.839 2015 to 49 in 2025. 00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:14.856 As we heard from the Vermont Junior 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:16.216 Club, all their girls are training on 00:49:16.240 --> 00:49:17.256 one night because they want to 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.216 consolidate the toilets. Soccer female 00:49:20.240 --> 00:49:22.936 teams have grown from 9 to 205. We need 00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.335 to support both soccer football and AFL 00:49:25.359 --> 00:49:27.016 football. We need to support both 00:49:27.040 --> 00:49:30.040 sports. Female participation, cricket 00:49:30.640 --> 00:49:32.535 participation's risen from nine teams to 00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:35.559 30 from 2015 to 2025. And we know that 00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:37.575 senior men's cricket is operating at 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.599 100% capacity on Saturdays. So this 00:49:40.640 --> 00:49:42.055 growth highlights that we need 00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:43.575 additional sporting proceedings like 00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:45.736 Davy Lane and also the other precincts 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:48.456 which are outlined in this this document 00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:51.480 which is dated September 25. 00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:54.295 Okay. So we all know the long timelines 00:49:54.319 --> 00:49:55.976 of planning, consultation, design and 00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:57.976 funding. Removing Davy Lane from the 00:49:58.000 --> 00:49:59.896 advocacy list now would set this project 00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:01.736 back years at precisely the moment when 00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:03.896 demand is rising and the next state 00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.295 election is only 12 months high. 00:50:06.319 --> 00:50:07.896 Councilors, our community is the 00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:09.736 customer. Their needs both current and 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:11.976 future must guide our positions. Let's 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:13.815 maintain consistency, defend our 00:50:13.839 --> 00:50:15.496 advocacy priorities and cons and 00:50:15.520 --> 00:50:17.815 continue supporting Davy Lane and all 00:50:17.839 --> 00:50:19.896 our sporting precincts including Man's 00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.295 Reserve. and we understand the 00:50:22.319 --> 00:50:24.216 frustrations for all stakeholders in the 00:50:24.240 --> 00:50:25.736 um in the delay, but that'll be coming 00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:28.376 out soon. So, watch this space. So, look 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.136 at what this motion really is. An attack 00:50:30.160 --> 00:50:32.535 on Davy Lane is an important project we 00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:33.176 need to serve. 00:50:33.200 --> 00:50:34.456 Thank you, Councelor Martin. 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:35.176 Thank you. 00:50:35.200 --> 00:50:36.776 Are there any other further speakers to 00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:37.416 the motion? 00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:38.295 Yes, Mayor . 00:50:38.319 --> 00:50:39.656 Thank you, Council. 00:50:39.680 --> 00:50:42.680 Thank you. I aspire to build trust. 00:50:44.160 --> 00:50:46.936 Transparent, inclusive, and consistent 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:49.335 decision making is the foundation of 00:50:49.359 --> 00:50:50.936 that trust. 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.335 It is concerning that this matter has 00:50:53.359 --> 00:50:56.136 returned to council again despite clear 00:50:56.160 --> 00:50:59.160 majority decisions supporting Davy Lane. 00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:02.456 Repetition like this is inefficient. It 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:05.416 undermines good governance. Of course, 00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:08.440 if new information had been presented or 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:10.295 circumstances had changed, 00:51:10.319 --> 00:51:13.256 reconsideration would be appropriate. 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.736 But has council received any formal 00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:18.760 written communication from a state MP or 00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:21.335 candidate stating that Dave Lane will 00:51:21.359 --> 00:51:23.496 not be supported? 00:51:23.520 --> 00:51:25.575 I acknowledge that several initiatives 00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:27.736 will not receive state funding in the 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.535 upcoming election yet they remain 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:33.416 advocacy priorities. Why then should 00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.440 Dave Lane be treated differently? 00:51:36.720 --> 00:51:39.416 This motion appears driven by political 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:42.440 dealings both internal and external and 00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.496 that compromises transparency. 00:51:45.520 --> 00:51:47.736 More importantly, five clubs are 00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:50.456 advocacy partners with council. They 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:53.256 expect us to stand with them. I am not 00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:56.216 prepared to break their trust. Our role 00:51:56.240 --> 00:51:59.240 is to advocate openly and consistently 00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.280 in line with endorsed council decisions 00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:04.776 whether we personally like the projects 00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.800 or not. Our responsibility is to uphold 00:52:08.319 --> 00:52:10.616 good governance, respect majority 00:52:10.640 --> 00:52:13.256 decisions and maintain trust with our 00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.736 community. For these reasons, I do not 00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:18.760 support this motion. 00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:21.976 Are there any other first are there any 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:24.616 further speakers to the motion? 00:52:24.640 --> 00:52:25.575 Yes, please. Mayor 00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:26.936 Council Gun. 00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:28.535 Thank you, Mayor . thank you also, 00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:30.136 Alex and Trent, for your great speeches 00:52:30.160 --> 00:52:32.295 here this evening. um excellent speeches 00:52:32.319 --> 00:52:34.136 really highlighting the issues of demand 00:52:34.160 --> 00:52:35.896 and growth and the challenges the 00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:38.920 council are facing in this competing um 00:52:39.359 --> 00:52:41.815 competing with demand for space. Now 00:52:41.839 --> 00:52:43.976 Davy Lane as we all know remains a 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:45.575 signature part of our Whitehorse open 00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:47.896 space strategy. It's there it's 00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:49.815 permanently there in our open space 00:52:49.839 --> 00:52:51.256 strategy and there's no intention to 00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:54.280 remove it from that. this 00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:57.095 conversation tonight is not about 00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:59.496 it's not a referendum on Davy Lane. It's 00:52:59.520 --> 00:53:01.496 not a referendum on whether we support 00:53:01.520 --> 00:53:04.055 Davy Lane as a project or not. It's 00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:06.696 about um someone mentioned before 00:53:06.720 --> 00:53:08.856 political dealings. Our advocacy program 00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:11.880 is essentially that. It's about how we 00:53:12.240 --> 00:53:13.815 can present ourselves and the 00:53:13.839 --> 00:53:15.416 opportunities within our partnership 00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:16.856 document that council Martin mentioned 00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:19.016 before. how we can present ourselves 00:53:19.040 --> 00:53:21.976 to be in the best position to receive 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.136 federal or state funding from those 00:53:24.160 --> 00:53:25.335 candidates that are putting themselves 00:53:25.359 --> 00:53:27.416 forward and that our communities are 00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:30.440 representing them. asking and and 00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:33.335 making that that pitch to them. It's not 00:53:33.359 --> 00:53:36.359 up to us to make the decision of a 00:53:36.640 --> 00:53:39.640 state member or a um or or a political 00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.575 candidate or a federal member in future. 00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:45.815 It's about us to to to prioritize what 00:53:45.839 --> 00:53:48.616 we know we need and the highest demand 00:53:48.640 --> 00:53:50.535 and council Martin has spoken correctly. 00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:53.095 There is demand growing across all our 00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:55.976 sports. Um we have obviously an interest 00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:57.496 increasing interest in table tennis and 00:53:57.520 --> 00:53:59.095 badminton that we are struggling to meet 00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:01.496 but our outdoor sports equally are 00:54:01.520 --> 00:54:04.520 having challenges our sports fields 00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:05.896 there's only so many sports fields that 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:08.055 we have and there is a need to increase 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:10.376 that that's why it's in our open space 00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:12.856 strategy that's why it's there however 00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:14.456 when the winds are not blowing in that 00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:17.095 direction and we have competing projects 00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:19.656 within the Glen Wavely district which 00:54:19.680 --> 00:54:22.055 Davy Lane and Man's Reserve the 00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:23.896 basketball stadium these projects are 00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:26.920 all within the one district. Labor 00:54:27.359 --> 00:54:29.016 or Liberal don't have money for all 00:54:29.040 --> 00:54:31.416 these projects. We can have these in our 00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:33.095 advocacy document. We can say we'd like 00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:34.696 this, we'd like that, we'd like all of 00:54:34.720 --> 00:54:36.376 it. But the reality is we're not going 00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.936 to get that. And it'll be up to these 00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:41.656 politicians to make that decision. 00:54:41.680 --> 00:54:44.680 Can we guide them? Can we say um soccer 00:54:44.720 --> 00:54:46.776 demand is is growing? we're well and 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:49.095 truly short of soccer grounds. the 00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:51.416 increasing facilities at Man's Reserve 00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:53.896 will help meet that. We could do that. 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:55.176 We could say the same thing for football 00:54:55.200 --> 00:54:56.936 at Davy Lane. Of course, of course we 00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:58.776 can. but it's not our decision. It's 00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:00.776 up to the state members to to make 00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:02.776 that call themselves. Do we have the 00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:04.136 right information, the most up-to-date 00:55:04.160 --> 00:55:05.416 information? I think a report could 00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:07.416 probably assist us with that. I think an 00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:08.776 updated report would give us an 00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:10.535 indication that Forest Hill Football 00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:12.055 Club, Nanowating Football Club, these 00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:14.216 clubs are really struggling. so it's 00:55:14.240 --> 00:55:16.136 not universal that that football demand 00:55:16.160 --> 00:55:18.055 is growing. we need to have that 00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:19.575 updated information. This would be very 00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.456 helpful. that's all I have time for. 00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:25.176 Mayor , thank you very much. 00:55:25.200 --> 00:55:26.616 Are there any further speakers to the 00:55:26.640 --> 00:55:27.335 motion? 00:55:27.359 --> 00:55:29.416 yes, Mayor . Thank you. 00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:30.535 Thank you, councelor Cuts. 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:32.535 Thank you very much. And I thank all 00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:34.216 councilors who've spoken on this 00:55:34.240 --> 00:55:36.616 particular matter and I don't agree with 00:55:36.640 --> 00:55:38.136 councelor Gun that you said this is not 00:55:38.160 --> 00:55:39.976 a referendum on day. I don't agree with 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:41.575 that. I think that that's exactly what 00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:44.295 this is. That's exactly what this is. 00:55:44.319 --> 00:55:46.376 And I'm I'm telling you, we've had a 00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:48.136 gutful or I've had a gut full of this 00:55:48.160 --> 00:55:50.295 that's been in the news lately of this 00:55:50.319 --> 00:55:52.216 coming back to council again and again 00:55:52.240 --> 00:55:54.696 and again. And I think we just have to 00:55:54.720 --> 00:55:56.456 understand. May I have that document, 00:55:56.480 --> 00:55:58.696 please? Y thanks. This is just our 00:55:58.720 --> 00:56:00.376 priorities. It's out for others to 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.456 choose if they want to pick it up or 00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:05.016 not. And who's to say then you and 00:56:05.040 --> 00:56:07.095 Councelor Davenport sniggering is 00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:09.176 inappropriate from a former Mayor . Very 00:56:09.200 --> 00:56:12.200 disappointing. Very disappointing. So in 00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:15.815 here for people to pick and choose which 00:56:15.839 --> 00:56:17.976 they decide. The new member for Glenn 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.696 Waverly or Standing the new um Liberal 00:56:20.720 --> 00:56:23.095 person may indeed be wanting to support 00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:26.119 this. And I would ask that Matt Greg 00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:29.176 when I met him when we were having a 00:56:29.200 --> 00:56:31.095 Viscy meetings that I asked him what's 00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:33.416 the most important thing to you when 00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:35.016 you've just started in the role and he 00:56:35.040 --> 00:56:37.016 said young people and getting them out 00:56:37.040 --> 00:56:40.040 playing sport. And yet he's he didn't 00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:43.079 support this. So I wonder why why isn't 00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:45.736 he supporting this? But that doesn't 00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:48.696 mean necessarily that the new candidate 00:56:48.720 --> 00:56:51.176 for Glenn Waverly will be doing that 00:56:51.200 --> 00:56:54.055 exactly. So what I also need to say is 00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:55.896 that we're talking about an area here in 00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:57.496 the hills of prayer reserve which is 00:56:57.520 --> 00:57:00.376 about 10.7% of the land and I think 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.295 talking about we we should be moving 00:57:02.319 --> 00:57:04.216 this off there. The fact is that it's 00:57:04.240 --> 00:57:06.136 not going to be used all the time with 00:57:06.160 --> 00:57:08.295 these sports. It's going to be open spa. 00:57:08.319 --> 00:57:10.775 It's going to retain open space. The 00:57:10.799 --> 00:57:13.016 pavilion which is intended to be there 00:57:13.040 --> 00:57:15.335 is a satellite pavilion. It won't be 00:57:15.359 --> 00:57:18.359 used for social drinking etc. It's not 00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:20.856 that. It's a satellite pavilion. The 00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:22.775 fact that there's misinformation going 00:57:22.799 --> 00:57:24.775 around in our community as well that 00:57:24.799 --> 00:57:26.856 there's a lot of trees being removed for 00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:28.936 this project. Well, guess what? Not one 00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:31.960 tree is being removed for this project. 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:34.216 So, some of these are things that we 00:57:34.240 --> 00:57:36.136 need to think about. I think we we 00:57:36.160 --> 00:57:38.055 shouldn't be making decisions on behalf 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:40.696 of what um federal and state members 00:57:40.720 --> 00:57:42.696 will or won't want to choose, but it 00:57:42.720 --> 00:57:44.936 should be kept where it is. This is as 00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:47.095 mentioned by councelor Barker was 00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:48.856 something with with hours and hours and 00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:50.616 hours of officer time and this actually 00:57:50.640 --> 00:57:53.016 is coming up to council later this this 00:57:53.040 --> 00:57:55.095 year, probably next year now. Um the 00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:57.416 Davy Lang Stratton House precinct plan 00:57:57.440 --> 00:57:59.656 is coming to council. This preempts 00:57:59.680 --> 00:58:01.656 that. So this is an inappropriate thing 00:58:01.680 --> 00:58:03.416 to be doing at removing and councilor 00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:05.575 Davenport. I'm disappointed that you 00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:07.335 want to bring this to council the moment 00:58:07.359 --> 00:58:09.656 you step out of the Mayor al role. Very 00:58:09.680 --> 00:58:12.680 disappointing. Thank you, Mayor . 00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:14.456 Are there any further speakers to the 00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:15.575 motion? 00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:17.416 , yes, Mayor . 00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:18.936 Councelor Griffith. 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:21.095 Um, I'm speaking in favor of this. It's 00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:23.896 not a decision today on Davy Lane. It's 00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:26.856 a two-step process. So, as you know, 00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:29.095 well aware, Mayor , counselors can't make 00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:30.936 big decisions on the fly. We have to 00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:32.936 call for a report first, get some 00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:35.416 information, and then the second time it 00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:37.256 comes to council with that information, 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:39.736 then a decision can be made. I'm 00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:41.335 speaking in favor of this because I 00:58:41.359 --> 00:58:44.359 think we need to consider point two. I 00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:46.856 haven't made up my mind on point one, 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:48.775 but I'm willing to read a report to 00:58:48.799 --> 00:58:51.016 inform that. 00:58:51.040 --> 00:58:54.040 I think the maximum contributions in 00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.400 our advocacy program are unrealistic. I 00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:01.559 look at Alanasi asks for 800 million of 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:05.480 partnership money and it's very clear 00:59:05.839 --> 00:59:08.775 that the state government doesn't have 00:59:08.799 --> 00:59:11.799 um doesn't have as full pockets as the 00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:13.976 federal government did in the federal 00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:16.376 election. So the circumstances for me 00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:18.376 have substantially changed and some of 00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:20.456 the initial conversations 00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:23.480 um I believe should direct the 00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:25.815 maximum contributions to a range of 00:59:25.839 --> 00:59:28.295 advocacy projects and whether this 00:59:28.319 --> 00:59:30.055 motion is supported or not I think 00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:31.656 that's something we have to look at in 00:59:31.680 --> 00:59:34.680 any case because or or we maintain a 00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:37.736 document that has this unrealistic 00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:39.656 outcome and expectation that we're 00:59:39.680 --> 00:59:41.656 taking to people that we're um 00:59:41.680 --> 00:59:43.976 advocating to for partnership. 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:46.055 So I'm willing to support this motion 00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:48.055 not because of point number one but 00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:50.616 happy to receive a port report outlining 00:59:50.640 --> 00:59:52.535 that but I think we need to seriously 00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:54.136 reconsider 00:59:54.160 --> 00:59:57.160 the co-contribution and maximum value of 00:59:57.839 --> 01:00:00.839 funding allocated to our advocacy 01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:02.535 projects as we head into the state 01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:05.016 election which is very different set of 01:00:05.040 --> 01:00:07.016 circumstances to the federal election. 01:00:07.040 --> 01:00:10.040 We have received some outcomes from 01:00:11.040 --> 01:00:13.815 advocacy project in the federal election 01:00:13.839 --> 01:00:15.656 too that should also inform that as well 01:00:15.680 --> 01:00:18.680 as the early conversations. Um so I'm 01:00:19.040 --> 01:00:22.040 speaking in favor of getting a report 01:00:22.640 --> 01:00:24.535 and not jumping to a conclusion on Davy 01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:27.559 Lane today. 01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:31.559 Are there any further speakers? Motion. 01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:34.696 Councelor Davenport, you have the right. 01:00:34.720 --> 01:00:36.456 Well, thank you. And it's I'm really 01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:39.016 pleased to be back in the chamber and um 01:00:39.040 --> 01:00:41.176 getting great debate after I've come out 01:00:41.200 --> 01:00:43.256 of the Merryill chair. And I did did 01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:45.335 want to see that that that certainly 01:00:45.359 --> 01:00:48.055 happened here tonight. Um the first 01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:50.456 point I'd like to make is that currently 01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:53.480 Davy Lane has no ability to proceed. 01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:56.456 It's not funded in our long-term 01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:59.480 financial plan and it has no prospects 01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:02.216 of getting into our long-term financial 01:01:02.240 --> 01:01:05.176 plan unless another level of government 01:01:05.200 --> 01:01:08.200 gets in there or if a councelor wishes 01:01:08.319 --> 01:01:11.319 to sponsor that project in the budget 01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.376 process and I do look forward to seeing 01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:17.400 that debate should it come up in terms 01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:20.216 of who's our customer and I agree it's 01:01:20.240 --> 01:01:21.575 our members of the community that are 01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:24.216 our customer and when we now are looking 01:01:24.240 --> 01:01:26.696 at how we can best 01:01:26.720 --> 01:01:29.335 activate our areas. We have to look at 01:01:29.359 --> 01:01:31.095 where the money flows in from. It's 01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:32.936 either rates, 01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:35.960 federal grants, or state grants. And 01:01:36.160 --> 01:01:38.055 that's the idea about tonight's um 01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:40.055 report is that we have to be standing 01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:41.656 ready, willing, and able to take 01:01:41.680 --> 01:01:43.575 advantage of any commitment that comes 01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:46.295 up. And in my personal view and what 01:01:46.319 --> 01:01:49.319 I've heard is that there will that that 01:01:49.520 --> 01:01:52.456 it is more likely than not that other 01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:55.416 commitments will come up and less so on 01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:57.176 Davy Lane and we should be unlocking 01:01:57.200 --> 01:01:59.416 that money at this election. Now, if we 01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:02.055 do get a a commitment from another level 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:03.976 of government to fund Davy Lane, well, 01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:06.696 of course you're not going to say no to 01:02:06.720 --> 01:02:09.335 that and you of course you would change 01:02:09.359 --> 01:02:11.896 tact on that, but we need to be ready to 01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:14.856 support other areas. We can't keep doing 01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:17.815 the same thing over and over and over 01:02:17.839 --> 01:02:20.216 and expecting a different result. We've 01:02:20.240 --> 01:02:22.856 got to now we've got to now be ready, 01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:25.815 willing, and able to work with with 01:02:25.839 --> 01:02:28.456 whoever is making a commitment. So, 01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:30.535 councilors, tonight it's about a report. 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:33.559 It's not a referendum on Davy Lane. Um 01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:35.575 but it's about getting some information 01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:36.376 on how to 01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:39.176 Thank you, Councelor Deport. Thank you. 01:02:39.200 --> 01:02:42.200 I now put the motion. All those in favor 01:02:42.799 --> 01:02:45.416 Councelor 01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:47.575 Griffith, Councelor Gun, Councelor 01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:50.599 Davenport, Councelor Simpson. 01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:53.256 All those against, 01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:56.280 Councelor Allen, Councelor Weller, 01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:59.400 Councelor Langford, Councelor Barker, 01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:01.896 Councelor Stennet, Councelor Cutts, 01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:04.696 Council Martin. 01:03:04.720 --> 01:03:07.720 The motion is lost. 01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:15.480 We now move to item 9.2, 01:03:15.520 --> 01:03:17.256 community and cultural center in the 01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:19.976 Boxill precinct. Can I have a counselor 01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:21.815 to move this motion? 01:03:21.839 --> 01:03:24.839 Happy to move, Madame May. 01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:29.880 Oh, with the amendments as has been 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:31.976 circulated. 01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.055 Thank you. Do we have a seconder? 01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:35.815 Yeah. Yes, Mayor . I'm happy to second 01:03:35.839 --> 01:03:36.696 that. 01:03:36.720 --> 01:03:39.176 Thank you, Councelor Davenport. Council 01:03:39.200 --> 01:03:39.736 Allen. 01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:42.760 Thank you. thank you, Madame May. Um 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:45.095 as you see just just talking just moving 01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:47.575 the amended motion just on the the 01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:50.599 change from the word Asian to the the 01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:54.055 word Chinese as I think has has been 01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:57.079 said by miss that um we're talking about 01:03:57.359 --> 01:04:00.359 cultural identity and I think it's 01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:04.616 focusing in on the Chinese community and 01:04:04.640 --> 01:04:07.335 not the broader Asian community because 01:04:07.359 --> 01:04:10.136 Asian does covers covers a hell of a lot 01:04:10.160 --> 01:04:12.456 of other cultures as Well, so I think 01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:15.480 that to be more accurate is that the 01:04:15.520 --> 01:04:17.335 fact that's why I'm moving it that way 01:04:17.359 --> 01:04:19.815 with the word Chinese in it. madame 01:04:19.839 --> 01:04:22.775 Mayor , the Chinese community is 01:04:22.799 --> 01:04:25.256 one of the highest single community 01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:27.176 numbers in numbers in Whitehorse 01:04:27.200 --> 01:04:30.200 over 13% as has been said and 01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:31.896 obviously and much more in the in the 01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:34.920 Boxill precinct as we know. It seems 01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:38.119 only natural that the community would 01:04:38.240 --> 01:04:41.240 seek to have its own cultural 01:04:42.240 --> 01:04:45.176 community and cultural center within 01:04:45.200 --> 01:04:48.200 Boxill. as as as has been as you would 01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:50.696 gather from the speakers here 01:04:50.720 --> 01:04:52.616 tonight, we've had approaches from the 01:04:52.640 --> 01:04:55.640 local Chinese community to work with 01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:59.015 to for us to work with them and 01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:01.976 plus obviously approaching 01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:04.856 the state and federal governments for 01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:07.880 funding in partnership to plan, support 01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.936 and deliver a well- resourced Chinese 01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:13.416 community and cultural center in Boxill. 01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:16.440 the center is needed to foster social 01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:18.376 connection, provide access to 01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:21.176 essential services and resources to 01:05:21.200 --> 01:05:22.696 support personal and community 01:05:22.720 --> 01:05:25.575 development. This will serve as a as a 01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:27.976 central hub for social interaction, 01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:31.000 education, health and wellness programs. 01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:34.119 It would include families, seniors, 01:05:34.160 --> 01:05:37.160 and vulnerable groups. The needs the 01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:39.335 need clearly stems from the desire to 01:05:39.359 --> 01:05:42.216 provide culturally appropriate spaces 01:05:42.240 --> 01:05:45.015 for community members to gather, 01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:47.416 celebrate their culture, heritage and to 01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:49.736 build connections and to provide support 01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:52.760 for new Chinese immigrants and with 01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:55.176 to help them through language barriers 01:05:55.200 --> 01:05:58.136 and navigate social issues like housing, 01:05:58.160 --> 01:06:01.160 welfare and and family matters. it 01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:04.136 would offer I mean it could and it 01:06:04.160 --> 01:06:06.856 probably will offer in information 01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:09.496 referral on casework, combat isolation, 01:06:09.520 --> 01:06:12.216 have lunch clubs and social gatherings 01:06:12.240 --> 01:06:14.535 especially for the elderly to provide 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:16.775 a space to celebrate and past stand 01:06:16.799 --> 01:06:19.799 cultural cultural matters and for 01:06:20.720 --> 01:06:23.015 future generations and build us build 01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:25.095 stronger relationships and a sense of 01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:28.119 belonging for the Chinese in their 01:06:28.160 --> 01:06:31.160 new and adopted country. Um it also 01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:34.216 there'll be opportunities to provide 01:06:34.240 --> 01:06:36.856 services and physical and mental 01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:39.416 health and and nutritional support and 01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.976 also education programs, art, 01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:44.376 calligraphy and all those sort of 01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:46.696 things. It will also offer or could 01:06:46.720 --> 01:06:48.936 offer or will probably offer specialized 01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:51.256 support such as such for families 01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:54.280 with children with special needs. the 01:06:54.799 --> 01:06:57.799 culture it promote cultural exchange 01:06:58.319 --> 01:07:01.319 to act as a as a bridge for cultural 01:07:02.640 --> 01:07:05.176 collaboration, foster mutual 01:07:05.200 --> 01:07:08.200 understanding and provide art 01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:10.295 exhibitions, permanent and temporary 01:07:10.319 --> 01:07:13.319 displays, education and wider community 01:07:13.359 --> 01:07:16.136 support about Chinese history, 01:07:16.160 --> 01:07:18.856 culture and about the modern society 01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:21.095 that is China and offers courses in 01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:24.119 Chinese language traditional arts and 01:07:24.319 --> 01:07:27.015 other cultural activities. the 01:07:27.039 --> 01:07:30.039 economic benefits for having a a 01:07:30.319 --> 01:07:32.136 cultural center will serve as part of 01:07:32.160 --> 01:07:33.976 interest for tourists. as been 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:35.335 mentioned before, just having an 01:07:35.359 --> 01:07:36.775 exhibition for one day, you could have 01:07:36.799 --> 01:07:38.456 it for a number of weeks either 01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:41.015 permanent or temporary. It also support 01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:44.039 local groups as well, cultural groups 01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:47.400 in their performance spaces. So you 01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:49.416 could imagine that this facility will 01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:51.575 have a multi-purpose rooms, seminars for 01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:54.456 live performances, cafe, bar, 01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:56.295 kitchen, library, resource rooms, 01:07:56.319 --> 01:07:58.136 tuition rooms and all that sort of 01:07:58.160 --> 01:08:00.936 thing. We must remember that a modern 01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:03.095 Melbourne is a multicultural Melbourne 01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:04.696 and and I think that this will benefit 01:08:04.720 --> 01:08:06.856 the whole community, the wider community 01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:08.936 and that everybody will have access to 01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:11.815 to cooperate within the Chinese 01:08:11.839 --> 01:08:14.839 Australian dbor. um that will be 01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:19.016 nonpartisan, non-religious and not for-p 01:08:19.040 --> 01:08:21.576 profofit like many of these particular 01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:23.976 community centers and obviously 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:25.175 hopefully achieve some sort of 01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:28.199 charitable status that will be 01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:29.896 taxdeductible which could be very handy 01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:31.576 with with coming to fundraising. So, 01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:34.600 Madame Mayor , I implore council to to 01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:36.616 support this motion at least start the 01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:39.016 ball rolling right now and we can do it. 01:08:39.040 --> 01:08:41.496 Thank you, 01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:43.655 Councelor Davenport. Well, thank you 01:08:43.679 --> 01:08:45.576 thank you Mayor and um I did listen to 01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:48.456 your speech with a lot of interest um 01:08:48.480 --> 01:08:51.175 councelor Allen and I I think that um I 01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:53.416 do want to quote um the new member for 01:08:53.440 --> 01:08:56.295 Mensy's Gabriel when he he says quite 01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:59.319 often that um Mensy's electorate has the 01:08:59.679 --> 01:09:02.135 highest Chinese population in Australia 01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:05.159 in his electorate and that in my view is 01:09:05.679 --> 01:09:08.679 um an area that we need to be able to 01:09:09.040 --> 01:09:12.040 service a lot um a lot better um within 01:09:13.120 --> 01:09:15.096 um the city of Whitehorse. Although I 01:09:15.120 --> 01:09:17.815 do acknowledge that we make a lot of um 01:09:17.839 --> 01:09:20.295 good strides in communicating and 01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:22.456 working with the Chinese community here 01:09:22.480 --> 01:09:25.480 within our city. This is about a 01:09:25.679 --> 01:09:27.416 forwardthinking 01:09:27.440 --> 01:09:29.976 idea to have a community and cultural 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:31.896 center, a Chinese community and cultural 01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:34.920 center within the city of Whitehorse. 01:09:35.120 --> 01:09:37.255 Now, this isn't something that we can do 01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:40.279 alone as council, but there was always 01:09:40.799 --> 01:09:43.799 needs to be one that moves first to get 01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:46.695 the ball rolling along the road. And if 01:09:46.719 --> 01:09:49.719 I remember at city oval when we 01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:52.536 originally did the preliminary design 01:09:52.560 --> 01:09:55.336 work and we had no funding commitments 01:09:55.360 --> 01:09:58.360 from state or federal and now we can see 01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:00.776 that we're developing that facility into 01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:03.175 a community use and multi-purpose 01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:04.936 facility. 01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:07.416 And I think we have a role to play in 01:10:07.440 --> 01:10:09.896 local government to have that ball 01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:12.920 started to be rolled and kick off that 01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:15.416 process. Where it leads, I'm not sure, 01:10:15.440 --> 01:10:18.056 but having a report that comes in to say 01:10:18.080 --> 01:10:20.215 how can how can we best set up a 01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:22.376 community and cultural center in the 01:10:22.400 --> 01:10:24.616 city of Whitehorse? What are the 01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:26.296 options that we should be looking at for 01:10:26.320 --> 01:10:29.320 it? How could we possibly fund that? And 01:10:29.360 --> 01:10:30.936 what would the management models look 01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:33.960 like? Um and then what would that 01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:37.496 particular center look like? Tonight's 01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:40.376 not about about making decisions on any 01:10:40.400 --> 01:10:42.936 of those matters. It's about starting 01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:45.096 the process of looking at looking for a 01:10:45.120 --> 01:10:48.120 report to then decide what we do next. 01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:51.960 Councilors, we have um opportunities now 01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:55.736 to to look at our future. We've we've 01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:58.760 undertaken our um council planning work 01:10:59.280 --> 01:11:02.280 and we need to have um work that's done 01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:06.600 over the longer term um to support our 01:11:07.040 --> 01:11:10.040 various community groups. Sporting and 01:11:10.080 --> 01:11:12.376 other recreational activities take up a 01:11:12.400 --> 01:11:15.096 lot of space and a lot of discussion and 01:11:15.120 --> 01:11:18.120 a lot of debate, much less so in arts 01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:20.776 and culture, although we do have the 01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:23.336 round which I've spoken about on many 01:11:23.360 --> 01:11:25.816 previous occasions. But tonight's about 01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:27.816 a community and cultural center and what 01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:30.056 that would look like if we decided to 01:11:30.080 --> 01:11:33.080 entertain such a pro prospect. We should 01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:36.199 be giving credence to getting a report 01:11:36.400 --> 01:11:38.856 and and I'm happy to be able to second 01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:41.880 the motion tonight. Thank you. 01:11:42.080 --> 01:11:43.416 Thank you, Councelor Davenport. Are 01:11:43.440 --> 01:11:46.440 there any other speakers to the motion? 01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:47.816 Yes, Mayor . 01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:49.175 Thank you, Councelor Cuts. 01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:50.536 Thank you very much. I will be in 01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:53.016 support of the Chinese Cultural and 01:11:53.040 --> 01:11:55.336 Community Center. Um, I understand that 01:11:55.360 --> 01:11:58.360 this has originated from um a release on 01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:00.776 the state government website on the 6th 01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:03.736 of August for an EOI for a Chinese 01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:06.056 community center. Um, and they are 01:12:06.080 --> 01:12:09.080 looking to contribute $2.4 million to 01:12:09.280 --> 01:12:10.856 that. And I understand that that's where 01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:13.576 this has come from. Um, and I'd like to 01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:15.655 thank Minwen for writing to councilors 01:12:15.679 --> 01:12:17.655 as well, who's in the gallery here, for 01:12:17.679 --> 01:12:20.376 alerting us to this. So, unfortunately, 01:12:20.400 --> 01:12:22.856 um, councilors found out about it. Well, 01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:24.695 we did. Most of us found out on about 01:12:24.719 --> 01:12:26.215 the 12th of November, which is the 01:12:26.239 --> 01:12:29.239 closing date for that. Um, I'm still 01:12:29.679 --> 01:12:31.576 supportive of this, however, because I 01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:33.576 actually believe that we need something 01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:36.296 like this within our municipality. So, 01:12:36.320 --> 01:12:38.536 what I understand is that the main areas 01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:40.695 for Chinese people are Bandaraara, 01:12:40.719 --> 01:12:43.719 Manningham, Marunda, Nox, MES, and White 01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:46.056 Horse. And Whitehorse is convenient 01:12:46.080 --> 01:12:48.135 placed right in the middle of that area 01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:49.976 there. And I do think it's something 01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:52.135 that we should do and it should not be 01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:55.159 Asian um cultural center as as the 01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:57.736 speaker said before Asia is is a 01:12:57.760 --> 01:12:59.816 place. It's not a culture and I I 01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:02.536 acknowledge that. Um and I think part of 01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:04.376 what this is about and this is also on 01:13:04.400 --> 01:13:06.695 the engaged website as well with the 01:13:06.719 --> 01:13:08.695 state government. They're looking for 01:13:08.719 --> 01:13:10.695 land ownership is is one of the most 01:13:10.719 --> 01:13:13.336 important criteria for this. So if we 01:13:13.360 --> 01:13:16.135 are looking 1B is looking options of 01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:18.056 location within Boxill and any 01:13:18.080 --> 01:13:20.056 appropriate management models that's 01:13:20.080 --> 01:13:22.776 something that that I certainly support. 01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:25.800 Um we have got 44,000 Chinese Australian 01:13:26.480 --> 01:13:28.936 residents living in Whitehorse and 01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:31.960 that's over um over a quarter of our 01:13:32.080 --> 01:13:35.080 population are Chinese ancestry compared 01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:38.199 with 8.3% for the greater Melbourne. 01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:42.199 And in the suburb of Box Hill, um almost 01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:45.336 30% of residents are born in China and 01:13:45.360 --> 01:13:48.360 certain some parts of Boxill, over half 01:13:49.040 --> 01:13:51.496 the people in some of the blocks are 01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:54.135 Chinese origin. So, so I think these are 01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:56.536 some really important things. Um the 01:13:56.560 --> 01:13:58.135 other thing I would say with this is 01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:00.376 that um I know that the state government 01:14:00.400 --> 01:14:02.376 is looking for a short timeline, so we 01:14:02.400 --> 01:14:04.376 need to get on with this very quickly, 01:14:04.400 --> 01:14:06.296 but I'm very supportive of this. It's 01:14:06.320 --> 01:14:08.856 something that is an incl. in our 01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:11.880 community vision 2040, an inclusive um 01:14:13.120 --> 01:14:16.120 welcoming um municipality that where 01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:18.776 everyone feels included and I think that 01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:21.800 comment before that um the name and name 01:14:22.080 --> 01:14:24.296 does matter. So I I certainly commend 01:14:24.320 --> 01:14:27.096 the um notice of motion. Thank you. 01:14:27.120 --> 01:14:28.616 Thank you, Councelor Cutts. Are there any 01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:31.416 other speakers for the motion? 01:14:31.440 --> 01:14:34.440 Councelor Martin. Um I haven't decided 01:14:34.719 --> 01:14:36.776 which way I'm going yet. So but I 01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:39.800 will wait for further debate. But um I I 01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:42.776 just was interested in history and I I I 01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:44.296 know the Chinese first arrived in 01:14:44.320 --> 01:14:46.456 Australia at circa 1818. That was when 01:14:46.480 --> 01:14:48.616 the first that's 30 years after the 01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:50.695 arrival of the first fleet and obviously 01:14:50.719 --> 01:14:53.016 we had a big inrush during the gold rush 01:14:53.040 --> 01:14:55.816 where approximately 50,000 Chinese come 01:14:55.840 --> 01:14:57.096 during that period. So there's a long 01:14:57.120 --> 01:14:59.336 history of the Chinese culture in in 01:14:59.360 --> 01:15:02.360 Australia and especially in Victoria. Um 01:15:02.480 --> 01:15:03.976 we do know Boxill is an important 01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:05.655 precinct for us but you know being the 01:15:05.679 --> 01:15:07.736 second biggest second biggest CBD in 01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:09.576 broader the city of Melbourne um 01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:11.096 high-rise residential towers we got 01:15:11.120 --> 01:15:13.736 Boxill central we got suburban you know 01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:16.376 suburban rail hot going diverse range 01:15:16.400 --> 01:15:19.256 of hospitality options um the famous 01:15:19.280 --> 01:15:21.976 Carrington road all the restaurants so I 01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:23.256 can see the argument for a development 01:15:23.280 --> 01:15:26.056 of this community and cultural center um 01:15:26.080 --> 01:15:29.080 and also noting the EOI from the state 01:15:29.120 --> 01:15:31.016 government that's where I sort of 01:15:31.040 --> 01:15:33.016 looked that up when um when this was 01:15:33.040 --> 01:15:36.040 getting put to us, but um I'm also 01:15:36.400 --> 01:15:39.400 mindful of budgets with council. So um 01:15:39.440 --> 01:15:41.096 you know, may maybe they'll be taking a 01:15:41.120 --> 01:15:42.456 bit of funding from Davy Lane to help 01:15:42.480 --> 01:15:45.480 this one. I'm not sure. Um but and I I'd 01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:47.816 also note that this is this this this 01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:49.496 this would not be in our long-term 01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:51.336 financial plan, by the way. Just just to 01:15:51.360 --> 01:15:53.816 note that, too. Um, so the only thing 01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:55.576 that worries me is that these type of 01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:57.655 um, centers can be considerable to fund 01:15:57.679 --> 01:16:00.536 and I'm just I'm very mindful 01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:02.776 um, you know, like I've heard budgets of 01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:05.096 $50 million. Now these are big numbers 01:16:05.120 --> 01:16:07.496 for local government. So I'm very 01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:10.520 mindful of what it would cost council 01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:12.776 and that's where I look, I haven't 01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:14.215 decided which way I'm going to go, but I 01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:16.135 just wanted to highlight, you know, this 01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:18.135 is a big bill. This is not a small bill. 01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:21.159 This is a big bill. Thank you. 01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:23.976 Thank you, Councelor Martin. Are there 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:25.336 any other speakers motion? 01:16:25.360 --> 01:16:27.096 I'd like to councelor Griffith like to 01:16:27.120 --> 01:16:30.120 move an amendment. 01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:35.016 Can you state that amendment, please? 01:16:35.040 --> 01:16:38.040 Yes, it's to consider adding part 01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:41.175 consider adding a Chinese community 01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:43.655 cultural center to council's advocacy 01:16:43.679 --> 01:16:46.679 program. 01:16:50.400 --> 01:16:52.056 It's done and dusted. 01:16:52.080 --> 01:16:54.215 Who Who's the second for this motion for 01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:56.456 this amendment? 01:16:56.480 --> 01:16:58.296 I'm prepared to take it in if I just 01:16:58.320 --> 01:16:59.976 understood understood exactly what 01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:01.736 council references 01:17:01.760 --> 01:17:03.175 the report to consider 01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:04.056 part. Sorry. 01:17:04.080 --> 01:17:06.936 Yeah. Consider adding this potential 01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:09.896 project to council's advocacy 01:17:09.920 --> 01:17:10.856 program. 01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:12.215 As the mover, are you happy with that? 01:17:12.239 --> 01:17:14.056 I'm quite happy with that, Madame May. 01:17:14.080 --> 01:17:17.080 Yes. I um are you happy with second? 01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:23.416 Okay. So that's now included onto the 01:17:23.440 --> 01:17:26.440 the amendments now included or we 01:17:27.679 --> 01:17:30.056 as it will be added to the substantive. 01:17:30.080 --> 01:17:33.080 Apologies still learning the um 01:17:33.280 --> 01:17:35.175 I'll speak to the the 01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:36.135 speak to the motion. Thank you. 01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:38.536 Motion um it was a good idea by 01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:41.016 councelor Martin about redistributing 01:17:41.040 --> 01:17:43.096 Davy Lane funds to this project as part 01:17:43.120 --> 01:17:46.056 of the advocacy program. So 01:17:46.080 --> 01:17:48.376 I I won't take credit for the idea, but 01:17:48.400 --> 01:17:50.776 um I I do listen to what my counselor 01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:52.536 colleagues have to say and try to 01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:55.560 incorporate on the fly as we go. 01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:57.896 Things things progress very slowly with 01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:00.616 council. This is a report on starting a 01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:02.456 conversation identifying funding 01:18:02.480 --> 01:18:04.376 opportunities. I think this amendment 01:18:04.400 --> 01:18:07.096 will help um progress the thought 01:18:07.120 --> 01:18:10.120 process, the idea funding approach and 01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:13.640 it also gives um a pathway for council 01:18:14.400 --> 01:18:17.400 to have conversations not only with um 01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:19.896 the local Chinese community and 01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:22.215 organizations but also with MPs and the 01:18:22.239 --> 01:18:23.816 people that might be able to pay for the 01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:25.896 project or substantially contribute to 01:18:25.920 --> 01:18:27.976 the funding. That's that's the reason 01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:29.736 for the addition. I'm speaking in favor 01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:32.760 of um the motion as a whole. 01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:37.096 Thank you, councelor Griffith. Are there 01:18:37.120 --> 01:18:38.536 any other speakers to the motion? 01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:39.175 Mayor , 01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:40.456 councelor Barker. 01:18:40.480 --> 01:18:42.135 Thanks, Mayor . I think I'll probably 01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:45.159 speak against. Now, 01:18:45.360 --> 01:18:48.360 I found the notice of motion somewhat 01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:51.560 surprising. I asked 14 questions about 01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:54.776 it. I didn't get any direct answers. 01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:56.936 rather I got a copy of a funding 01:18:56.960 --> 01:18:59.175 proposal from a local business group 01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:01.896 that spoke about a funding window of 01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:04.456 between 30 and $50 million. That 01:19:04.480 --> 01:19:07.256 concerns me because not unlike our 01:19:07.280 --> 01:19:10.135 previous debate, 01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:13.159 our our advocacy isn't some sort of 01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:17.159 flash in the pan trinket that sort of 01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:20.199 flashes past us. rather I've listened 01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:22.695 actually really carefully to the shaping 01:19:22.719 --> 01:19:23.976 Whitehorse and in particular the 01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:27.000 community panel um that spent a lot of 01:19:27.679 --> 01:19:29.816 time discussing it. I know councilors 01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:31.256 has discussed a huge amount of time 01:19:31.280 --> 01:19:33.256 discussing it because nowhere in any of 01:19:33.280 --> 01:19:36.056 that has has been a Chinese community 01:19:36.080 --> 01:19:37.736 center. 01:19:37.760 --> 01:19:40.760 Um and in fact all of my contact with 01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:43.256 our incredibly vibrant and incredibly 01:19:43.280 --> 01:19:45.336 diverse community and indeed our Chinese 01:19:45.360 --> 01:19:47.096 community is a diverse as dare I say it 01:19:47.120 --> 01:19:49.736 the Caucasian community um incredibly 01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:51.336 diverse 01:19:51.360 --> 01:19:54.360 um society a great great civilization of 01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:57.880 30,000 years history. So um 01:19:59.920 --> 01:20:02.056 I've never also supported the singular 01:20:02.080 --> 01:20:04.536 use of anything. Ela Park hockey is not 01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:06.056 Ela Park hockey any longer. It's the 01:20:06.080 --> 01:20:08.296 Elgar Park multi-use. It's about being 01:20:08.320 --> 01:20:09.816 inclusive. That's one of the reasons why 01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:12.376 the funding for Luna New Year is Luna 01:20:12.400 --> 01:20:13.896 New Year, not necessarily Chinese New 01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:15.496 Year because we want to include the 01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:17.336 Vietnamese, the Cambodians, the Thai, 01:20:17.360 --> 01:20:19.976 the Koreans, da because we had some 01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:22.215 criticism that we hadn't been broad 01:20:22.239 --> 01:20:24.776 enough or inclusive enough. And that's 01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:27.800 why we've we've followed that thing and 01:20:28.480 --> 01:20:30.135 that's why I think it's really important 01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:32.536 and and in shaping Whitehorse that was 01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:35.256 a particular theme that came through was 01:20:35.280 --> 01:20:36.936 to break down barriers rather than 01:20:36.960 --> 01:20:39.175 creating new barriers. Now if you said 01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:41.736 to us a new arrival from Syria or 01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:43.496 Poland, oh you'll be going to the 01:20:43.520 --> 01:20:45.336 Chinese cultural center for your English 01:20:45.360 --> 01:20:48.360 language classes. Well, you know, I 01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:50.616 don't I don't think that's I don't think 01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:53.016 that's 01:20:53.040 --> 01:20:55.016 very very realistic to be honest with 01:20:55.040 --> 01:20:57.175 you counselors and we do have a diverse 01:20:57.199 --> 01:21:00.056 community and and that's the diversity 01:21:00.080 --> 01:21:02.456 that I love and indeed many would say 01:21:02.480 --> 01:21:04.456 that Boxill is indeed a cultural 01:21:04.480 --> 01:21:06.056 immersion in itself and I'd agree with 01:21:06.080 --> 01:21:08.135 it because to suggest that there is no 01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:10.056 cultural Chinese cultural center in 01:21:10.080 --> 01:21:12.135 Boxill is misleading. We have the Xinhow 01:21:12.159 --> 01:21:14.056 bookstore where you can get all of the 01:21:14.080 --> 01:21:16.856 stuff again carefully curated by you 01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:18.456 know the People's Republic of China's 01:21:18.480 --> 01:21:20.056 government. We've got Ames. We've got 01:21:20.080 --> 01:21:22.536 the Louise multicultural center that 01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:24.056 provides this. We have a number of them. 01:21:24.080 --> 01:21:25.896 We have English Corner some of these 01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:28.456 great community initiatives. But let's 01:21:28.480 --> 01:21:31.175 be completely honest in terms of 30 to 01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:32.856 50 million for a Chinese cultural 01:21:32.880 --> 01:21:35.655 center. My focus is on open space that 01:21:35.679 --> 01:21:38.215 will be for everyone. My focus is on a 01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:40.296 new library that will be for everyone. 01:21:40.320 --> 01:21:42.616 They're the things we're prioritizing. 01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:44.296 Thank you, Councelor Barka. Are there 01:21:44.320 --> 01:21:45.816 any other further speakers to the 01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:48.840 motion? 01:21:49.040 --> 01:21:50.296 Councelor Allen, you have the right of 01:21:50.320 --> 01:21:50.776 reply. 01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:52.695 Thank you. , Madame May, I I'll be 01:21:52.719 --> 01:21:54.776 very brief that with councelor 01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:56.936 Barker's remarks. I can I can understand 01:21:56.960 --> 01:21:58.615 I can understand truthfully where where 01:21:58.639 --> 01:22:00.376 he's coming from. I can understand his 01:22:00.400 --> 01:22:03.400 point of view about wider inclusivity 01:22:04.960 --> 01:22:07.016 and that sort of thing and multi-use and 01:22:07.040 --> 01:22:09.496 all that sort of thing. I don't see I 01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:12.456 don't see establishing a cultural 01:22:12.480 --> 01:22:14.376 Chinese cultural center community and 01:22:14.400 --> 01:22:17.256 cultural center being exclusive at all. 01:22:17.280 --> 01:22:19.416 yes, it is for the Chinese community. 01:22:19.440 --> 01:22:22.215 Um and that that's the truth, but and so 01:22:22.239 --> 01:22:24.936 are many other particular communities 01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:27.736 too. They they have their own centers 01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:28.695 as well. You know, we've got the 01:22:28.719 --> 01:22:31.719 Hungarian one just down in one turner. 01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:33.816 we had the House of Persia here at 01:22:33.840 --> 01:22:36.135 Boxill. they they they've got their 01:22:36.159 --> 01:22:38.856 own they ran the that fair yesterday. 01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:41.655 They were at they've got their own 01:22:41.679 --> 01:22:44.679 community and cultural center. Um the 01:22:45.120 --> 01:22:48.120 the the funding well I think this is 01:22:48.400 --> 01:22:49.976 what the report's all about. I mean 01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:51.496 there's so many options that could be 01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:53.816 funded. Um and I and I and I thank 01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:56.296 Councelor Griffith for including that 01:22:56.320 --> 01:22:58.056 because it could it will be needed to be 01:22:58.080 --> 01:23:00.536 part of the advocacy program because 01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:02.456 as council Davenport has said we we 01:23:02.480 --> 01:23:04.456 can't do it our own. We we're just 01:23:04.480 --> 01:23:07.480 kicking this off. Um, and I'm sure that 01:23:08.320 --> 01:23:10.776 the state government is is is 01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:13.800 pretty pretty keen on having a a Chinese 01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:15.336 community and cultural center here in 01:23:15.360 --> 01:23:17.736 Boxill. There's no doubt about that. And 01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:20.135 as council Davenport has said that 01:23:20.159 --> 01:23:23.016 the new member for menses is it's 01:23:23.040 --> 01:23:25.736 definitely supportive of it purely 01:23:25.760 --> 01:23:28.456 because of the the sheer numbers of 01:23:28.480 --> 01:23:31.096 the descendants of Chinese 01:23:31.120 --> 01:23:33.576 backgrounds are in his electorate. So, I 01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:35.256 mean, he's he's he's representing the 01:23:35.280 --> 01:23:38.280 his community, but I think overall, , 01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:41.016 this will be a win for us. It'll be a 01:23:41.040 --> 01:23:43.016 win. It'll put us on the map. It'll be a 01:23:43.040 --> 01:23:45.256 place of destination, and I think it'll 01:23:45.280 --> 01:23:47.016 be a feather in our cap, and it will 01:23:47.040 --> 01:23:48.615 make people stand up saying that we 01:23:48.639 --> 01:23:51.496 support our communities 100%. Thank you, 01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:52.296 M. Madame May. 01:23:52.320 --> 01:23:54.615 Thank you, Councelor Allen. Are there 01:23:54.639 --> 01:23:56.695 any other speakers on I now put the 01:23:56.719 --> 01:23:59.576 motion? All those in favor? Councelor 01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:01.736 Allan, Councelor Weller, Councelor 01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:04.760 Griffith, Councelor Davenport, Coun 01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:06.536 Deputy Mayor Simpson, Councelor 01:24:06.560 --> 01:24:09.016 Langford, 01:24:09.040 --> 01:24:11.976 Councelor Stennet, Councelor Cuts, and 01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:14.695 Councelor Martin. 01:24:14.719 --> 01:24:17.496 All those against, 01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:20.520 Councelor Gun, Councelor Barker. 01:24:21.360 --> 01:24:24.056 The the motion is carried. 01:24:24.080 --> 01:24:27.080 Thank you, councilors. 01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:32.856 Item 10.1 01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:35.880 121 Berwood Highway Burwood lot one use 01:24:37.360 --> 01:24:39.256 of land for place of assembly and 01:24:39.280 --> 01:24:41.416 construction and display of illuminated 01:24:41.440 --> 01:24:44.440 sign and non-illuminated pylon signs. 01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:46.776 Can I have a counselor to move and 01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:47.896 second? 01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:49.576 Um I'll move. 01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:52.215 Thank you councelor Martin to second. 01:24:52.239 --> 01:24:53.016 Second. 01:24:53.040 --> 01:24:56.040 Thank you councelor Barker. 01:24:56.320 --> 01:24:57.896 Councelor Martin. 01:24:57.920 --> 01:24:59.416 Thank you, Mayor . And I'd just like to 01:24:59.440 --> 01:25:01.816 acknowledge Belinda, who spoke 01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:03.416 tonight. Yes. Thank you for coming 01:25:03.440 --> 01:25:06.296 tonight. Um, thank you, Mayor . Council's 01:25:06.320 --> 01:25:08.456 considering planning application 01:25:08.480 --> 01:25:11.480 WH20249/970, 01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:13.896 which seeks approval to change the use 01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:16.376 of 121 Burwood Highway from an office to 01:25:16.400 --> 01:25:18.695 a place of assembly, specifically a pool 01:25:18.719 --> 01:25:21.256 pool hall, and to approve associated 01:25:21.280 --> 01:25:22.776 signage. 01:25:22.800 --> 01:25:25.256 As we know, the site is located located 01:25:25.280 --> 01:25:27.016 in a commercial two zone which supports 01:25:27.040 --> 01:25:28.536 a range of commercial activities 01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:30.456 providing they do not cause unreasonable 01:25:30.480 --> 01:25:32.856 amenity impacts on nearby residential or 01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:35.496 sensitive users. The assessment by 01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:37.175 council has focused on whether the use 01:25:37.199 --> 01:25:38.856 is appropriate in this zone and whether 01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:40.856 any impacts particularly noise, 01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:42.936 behavior, parking and traffic can be 01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:44.695 managed through permit conditions. And I 01:25:44.719 --> 01:25:46.456 think it's pretty it's important we 01:25:46.480 --> 01:25:49.480 always take note of those per permit 01:25:49.679 --> 01:25:51.896 conditions which are in the document. 01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:53.576 After public notice though the the 01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:56.600 council received 53 objections and um 01:25:56.719 --> 01:25:58.695 and the speaker tonight has also raised 01:25:58.719 --> 01:26:01.096 the the petition with further 01:26:01.120 --> 01:26:04.056 objectors. So I would like to note that 01:26:04.080 --> 01:26:07.080 in my speech here the concerns raised 01:26:07.120 --> 01:26:09.096 included safety and potential behavior 01:26:09.120 --> 01:26:11.655 of alcohol affected patrons, noise and 01:26:11.679 --> 01:26:13.896 antisocial activity, overflow parking 01:26:13.920 --> 01:26:16.376 into residential streets, impacts on 01:26:16.400 --> 01:26:19.016 nearby homes and child care facilities 01:26:19.040 --> 01:26:21.496 and the proposed operating hours. A 01:26:21.520 --> 01:26:23.175 consultation forum was held on the 2nd 01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:25.256 of July 2024 which was chaired by 01:26:25.280 --> 01:26:27.016 councelor Devport. Thank you councelor 01:26:27.040 --> 01:26:29.976 Devport for doing that. um with around 01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:32.456 40 objectives in attendance. While no 01:26:32.480 --> 01:26:34.376 agreements was reached um the issues 01:26:34.400 --> 01:26:37.175 raised have been carefully considered. 01:26:37.199 --> 01:26:38.776 one it was important to note that 01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:41.800 since the 1 of July 2012 amendment BC286 01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:44.215 removed the requirement for planning 01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:47.239 permit to sell or consume alcoh liquor. 01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:49.655 This means alcohol related issues cannot 01:26:49.679 --> 01:26:52.376 be considered under this application. 01:26:52.400 --> 01:26:54.776 Um 01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:56.376 excuse me. I've just lost my little spot 01:26:56.400 --> 01:26:59.400 there. It goes too quick. Um turning to 01:26:59.440 --> 01:27:00.936 the proposal itself, the pool hall would 01:27:00.960 --> 01:27:02.856 operate with a maximum of 80 patrons, 01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:05.096 one staff member on duty and 12 pool 01:27:05.120 --> 01:27:07.336 tables with some ankillery entertainment 01:27:07.360 --> 01:27:10.296 areas. the existing building provides 01:27:10.320 --> 01:27:13.320 14 car spaces and under clause 52.06, 01:27:13.760 --> 01:27:15.896 this shortfall is permissible without a 01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:18.536 separate parking reduction permit 01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:20.056 because the building is existing and 01:27:20.080 --> 01:27:23.016 located in the commercial two zone. 01:27:23.040 --> 01:27:25.175 Noise impacts have been the major focus. 01:27:25.199 --> 01:27:27.256 conditions require an amended acoustic 01:27:27.280 --> 01:27:29.496 report, compliance with EPA noise 01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:31.416 requirements, and implementation of a 01:27:31.440 --> 01:27:33.576 noise and amenity action plan to ensure 01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:35.736 patrons leave the venue quietly and 01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:38.135 surrounding residents are protected. 01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:40.056 Operate operating hours have also been 01:27:40.080 --> 01:27:41.896 limited to more reasonable times and 01:27:41.920 --> 01:27:44.135 signage must comply with strict lighting 01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:46.936 and illumination controls. 01:27:46.960 --> 01:27:48.615 Internal departments including traffic 01:27:48.639 --> 01:27:51.175 and environmental health support the 01:27:51.199 --> 01:27:53.096 proposal subject to the recommended 01:27:53.120 --> 01:27:54.615 conditions. 01:27:54.639 --> 01:27:56.056 Officers conclude that with these 01:27:56.080 --> 01:27:58.135 conditions in place the proposed use can 01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:00.056 operate without causing unreasonable 01:28:00.080 --> 01:28:03.080 detriment to the surrounding areas. Um I 01:28:03.280 --> 01:28:04.776 just wanted to make note that the 01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:07.336 applicant did sort of put um you know an 01:28:07.360 --> 01:28:10.360 instruction where the patrons to park 01:28:11.120 --> 01:28:13.816 and um it's probably not it's probably 01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:16.056 not ideal if I was the if I was the if I 01:28:16.080 --> 01:28:17.655 was the applicant for this permit. I 01:28:17.679 --> 01:28:20.679 probably wouldn't do that. Um as much as 01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:23.016 those residential streets like anyone 01:28:23.040 --> 01:28:24.376 can park there if they want to. So 01:28:24.400 --> 01:28:25.816 there's nothing stopping people actually 01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:28.840 parking there. But um perhap I I look 01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:29.976 that's probably something I wouldn't 01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:32.776 have done. But um anyway, accordingly 01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:34.296 the recommendation before council is to 01:28:34.320 --> 01:28:36.056 issue a notice of decision to grant a 01:28:36.080 --> 01:28:38.536 permit for use and signage subject to a 01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:40.215 full listing conditions in this in this 01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:43.016 report. Thank you. 01:28:43.040 --> 01:28:44.456 Thank you councelor Martin. Councelor 01:28:44.480 --> 01:28:46.056 Barker. 01:28:46.080 --> 01:28:49.080 Not a huge amount to add Mayor . I was um 01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:52.536 interested by the objections 01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:55.416 particularly to excellent speech by one 01:28:55.440 --> 01:28:58.440 of the residents tonight and um would 01:28:59.199 --> 01:29:02.199 remind the council or group that this is 01:29:02.320 --> 01:29:04.936 commercial twozone land on Burwood on 01:29:04.960 --> 01:29:07.960 Bwood Highway. you know it. There's 01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:10.135 buildings and a school spoken about it. 01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:12.296 And in fact, it's not uncommon in our 01:29:12.320 --> 01:29:15.016 great city where commercial land backs 01:29:15.040 --> 01:29:18.040 off onto or um connects to residential 01:29:18.719 --> 01:29:21.096 land. And it's often that interface 01:29:21.120 --> 01:29:23.655 that's problematic for us because the 01:29:23.679 --> 01:29:26.679 uses conflict with um the commercial 01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:29.816 uses conflict with the residential uses 01:29:29.840 --> 01:29:31.816 and let's say there can be a lot of 01:29:31.840 --> 01:29:33.336 commercial uses. Now, of course, you 01:29:33.360 --> 01:29:35.416 know, you think about Mont Albert Road 01:29:35.440 --> 01:29:38.440 near Mr. rem just your ward um that cafe 01:29:40.159 --> 01:29:41.576 there sort of and there's restaurants 01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:43.256 there that are going from 6:00 in the 01:29:43.280 --> 01:29:45.736 morning till 11:00 at night even though 01:29:45.760 --> 01:29:48.760 they back right onto residential streets 01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:51.576 and have been quite disruptive where 01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:53.256 there's bakeries and deliveries 01:29:53.280 --> 01:29:54.695 particularly with the rightways at the 01:29:54.719 --> 01:29:57.416 back. Now I note in this instance the 01:29:57.440 --> 01:30:00.296 there's no permit required to sell or 01:30:00.320 --> 01:30:01.896 consume alcohol after the state 01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:04.920 government v moved um amendment VC286. 01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:07.256 So that's not a permit trigger. I think 01:30:07.280 --> 01:30:09.175 it's just that the usage place of 01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:12.199 assembly and or the sign are what 01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:14.776 triggers the permit condition. And if 01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:17.256 I'm not mistaken either, Mayor , if this 01:30:17.280 --> 01:30:19.175 was a brothel, 01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:22.199 um it wouldn't require a permit 01:30:23.440 --> 01:30:25.416 um in Victoria these days or a place 01:30:25.440 --> 01:30:28.440 where sexualized massage services are 01:30:28.719 --> 01:30:29.096 delivered. 01:30:29.120 --> 01:30:30.695 Councelor Barker, 01:30:30.719 --> 01:30:31.976 yeah. You know, I'm making a pretty 01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:35.000 serious point that um the planning 01:30:35.040 --> 01:30:37.416 scheme is such these days that not many 01:30:37.440 --> 01:30:40.440 planning permits are required for uses 01:30:40.719 --> 01:30:42.376 and in fact the pool hall is probably at 01:30:42.400 --> 01:30:44.296 the lower scale of some of the impacts 01:30:44.320 --> 01:30:45.976 that those could have. I'm pleased to 01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:47.256 see that there are a number of strict 01:30:47.280 --> 01:30:49.896 conditions here um and councilors were 01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:52.695 we not to approve this it would no doubt 01:30:52.719 --> 01:30:54.936 be appealed and those conditions that 01:30:54.960 --> 01:30:57.960 have been applied would be at risk. So 01:30:58.719 --> 01:31:01.719 um we have very we have no re real 01:31:02.880 --> 01:31:05.256 option in my book other than to 01:31:05.280 --> 01:31:07.416 approve it because it satisfies the 01:31:07.440 --> 01:31:08.936 planning scheme as it sits at the 01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:11.016 moment. 01:31:11.040 --> 01:31:12.296 Thank you councelor Barker. Are there 01:31:12.320 --> 01:31:13.016 any other speakers? 01:31:13.040 --> 01:31:15.496 May there I have an amendment. 01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:16.856 could you please state your 01:31:16.880 --> 01:31:19.880 amendment? So to adding point Den sorry 01:31:20.719 --> 01:31:23.416 it's up on the screen now that um 01:31:23.440 --> 01:31:24.856 following the permit being granted 01:31:24.880 --> 01:31:26.536 council investigate the impact along 01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:27.976 neighboring streets which may be 01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:29.496 affected with additional traffic and 01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:31.496 park car parking considering appropriate 01:31:31.520 --> 01:31:33.496 changes to the parking restrictions in 01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:34.776 consultation with the affected 01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:37.096 residents. 01:31:37.120 --> 01:31:38.536 Council Martin, as a mover, are you 01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:41.560 comfortable with that amendment? 01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:43.336 Let me read it. 01:31:43.360 --> 01:31:44.215 I beg your pardon. 01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:47.239 I'll just read it for a second. 01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:54.760 I would rather not. Um I think if 01:31:55.600 --> 01:31:57.816 residents wanted to they could put that 01:31:57.840 --> 01:31:59.816 request directly through council. I 01:31:59.840 --> 01:32:02.840 think it's wasn't part of the original 01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:05.336 motion. So I will say no. 01:32:05.360 --> 01:32:07.576 Um councelor Barker is a seconder of the 01:32:07.600 --> 01:32:07.736 motion. 01:32:07.760 --> 01:32:09.175 Yeah. No Mayor because it doesn't make 01:32:09.199 --> 01:32:10.695 sense. Why would you investigate once 01:32:10.719 --> 01:32:12.056 the permit's been issued? You surely 01:32:12.080 --> 01:32:13.576 want to investigate once the thing's in 01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:15.655 operation. 01:32:15.679 --> 01:32:17.576 Okay. Okay. Could I seek a seconder for 01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:19.175 the amendment? 01:32:19.199 --> 01:32:20.695 Happy to second. 01:32:20.719 --> 01:32:21.976 Thank you, councelor Carts. 01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:23.816 Madame Mayor , just on a point of order, 01:32:23.840 --> 01:32:25.655 if I may, 01:32:25.679 --> 01:32:28.679 um, if I may, on on this on this on a 01:32:29.360 --> 01:32:31.576 procedural motion on on the on the 01:32:31.600 --> 01:32:34.600 procedure of this, I think, if I may 01:32:35.280 --> 01:32:38.280 just mention that putting D in is 01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:42.776 assuming that it's going to be granted. 01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:45.096 I I I 01:32:45.120 --> 01:32:47.816 would think under under the under the 01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:50.376 procedures that this could qualify as a 01:32:50.400 --> 01:32:53.256 as a supplementary motion. Supplementary 01:32:53.280 --> 01:32:56.280 motion. Um I'm just worried that it's 01:32:56.639 --> 01:32:57.816 it's present. It's present. 01:32:57.840 --> 01:32:59.016 Thank you, Councelor Alan. 01:32:59.040 --> 01:33:00.456 It's up to you. You're the chair. Madam, 01:33:00.480 --> 01:33:03.480 we just pause for a minute, please. 01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:17.496 Mr. Green, could you please clarify 01:33:17.520 --> 01:33:19.175 whether this would form part of the 01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:22.199 planning permit? 01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:27.816 Through your m, if I may, I I do believe 01:33:27.840 --> 01:33:29.256 there might be an issue with this 01:33:29.280 --> 01:33:30.936 proposed condition in that it doesn't 01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:32.615 actually relate to what we call the 01:33:32.639 --> 01:33:35.416 planning unit as in the address or the 01:33:35.440 --> 01:33:36.856 parcel of land to which the permit 01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:39.096 applies. So, normally we wouldn't 01:33:39.120 --> 01:33:41.655 propose a condition that affects areas 01:33:41.679 --> 01:33:43.896 outside of the actual what we call the 01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:46.920 planning unit. 01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:19.256 Um, councelor Stennet, councelor cuts, 01:34:19.280 --> 01:34:21.175 I'll be dismissing this from as an 01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:23.736 amendment. If you wish to um do 01:34:23.760 --> 01:34:24.776 something further in the future, it 01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:26.456 would be a supplementary motion or a or 01:34:26.480 --> 01:34:27.576 or a nomination. 01:34:27.600 --> 01:34:30.600 Well, I'd like to descent the chair. 01:34:33.440 --> 01:34:35.896 I would like to descent the chair and 01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:38.920 I'd like to provide reasons. 01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:49.560 We just hold the minute please 01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:03.800 council 01:35:10.639 --> 01:35:12.376 councilors given the time I'm going to 01:35:12.400 --> 01:35:14.376 give you all 5 minutes break and 01:35:14.400 --> 01:35:15.816 we'll come back in 5 minutes time thank 01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:18.840 you 01:35:19.120 --> 01:35:21.896 as displayed on the screen 01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:24.856 could I have a seconder please 01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:26.695 happy to second for debate 01:35:26.719 --> 01:35:29.719 thank you coun Deputy Mayor Simpson 01:35:30.719 --> 01:35:33.016 thank you, Mayor . U counselor, we've 01:35:33.040 --> 01:35:36.040 heard tonight it's a significant 01:35:36.080 --> 01:35:38.215 concern neighboring residents have had 01:35:38.239 --> 01:35:41.239 with parking. Um and given its location, 01:35:42.719 --> 01:35:45.256 um 01:35:45.280 --> 01:35:47.096 having a look at the report, it does 01:35:47.120 --> 01:35:49.175 talk about a high reliance on public 01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:51.175 transport and I just wonder how 01:35:51.199 --> 01:35:53.976 practical that is really. Um and 01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:56.856 although I can't disagree with the 01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:59.736 council offic's um recommendations here 01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:02.296 to approve the permit generally, I am 01:36:02.320 --> 01:36:04.215 concerned with the section in the report 01:36:04.239 --> 01:36:07.016 which talks about overflow parking. Says 01:36:07.040 --> 01:36:08.856 the location of the site provides for a 01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:11.496 level of on street parking. Um I think 01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:13.736 14 spaces and they're they're expecting 01:36:13.760 --> 01:36:16.760 80 people maximum at any one time. 01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:19.175 level of on street parking including 01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:21.976 Edwards and Rosson streets and across 01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:24.135 the highway on Evans and Gilmore streets 01:36:24.159 --> 01:36:26.776 to accommodate for any parking overflow. 01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:28.376 Car parking on these streets is 01:36:28.400 --> 01:36:30.536 allowable and within on any on street 01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:33.256 stipulated parking signage. My concern I 01:36:33.280 --> 01:36:36.280 guess is um 01:36:36.400 --> 01:36:37.896 just 01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:39.896 being cognizant of those concerns that 01:36:39.920 --> 01:36:41.336 have been raised here tonight and being 01:36:41.360 --> 01:36:42.856 responsive 01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:45.880 um at the time. And 01:36:46.639 --> 01:36:49.639 um in line with councel Barker's words 01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:52.936 before, my intent with this would be 01:36:52.960 --> 01:36:55.816 that common sense would dictate that um 01:36:55.840 --> 01:36:58.840 you would investigate the impact um once 01:36:59.679 --> 01:37:02.456 um the operation had begun. um rather 01:37:02.480 --> 01:37:03.896 than now. I mean, you might do something 01:37:03.920 --> 01:37:06.920 now to to look at what what conditions 01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:09.416 um there already are, but presumably 01:37:09.440 --> 01:37:11.976 that's already been done. So, the 01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:14.856 additional the impact is 01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:17.095 it might be potential impact. It might 01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:19.416 be trying to predict that impact or it 01:37:19.440 --> 01:37:22.296 might be um actual impact after it's 01:37:22.320 --> 01:37:24.776 open. I'm happy to for council office to 01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:27.800 investigate that rather than um commit 01:37:29.040 --> 01:37:30.695 council to anything in particular but at 01:37:30.719 --> 01:37:32.536 least 01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:35.336 um taking into consideration the large 01:37:35.360 --> 01:37:38.360 number of objections 01:37:38.480 --> 01:37:41.095 and the concerns very real concerns 01:37:41.119 --> 01:37:43.256 about the impact along along those 01:37:43.280 --> 01:37:45.095 neighboring streets from the operation 01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:48.119 of this venue. And that really is the 01:37:48.480 --> 01:37:51.256 intent to add this not as a permit 01:37:51.280 --> 01:37:54.280 permit condition um but following if if 01:37:55.119 --> 01:37:57.736 we were to 01:37:57.760 --> 01:38:00.760 approve this um then for council to 01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:04.135 investigate that impact 01:38:04.159 --> 01:38:05.655 um in consultation with the affected 01:38:05.679 --> 01:38:08.215 residents. Thank you may 01:38:08.239 --> 01:38:09.816 thank you councelor Stennet. Council 01:38:09.840 --> 01:38:11.175 cuts 01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:11.655 01:38:11.679 --> 01:38:13.016 sorry councelor Simpson. 01:38:13.040 --> 01:38:15.736 Thank you Mayor . Um I seconded this 01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:17.175 predominantly councilors because I 01:38:17.199 --> 01:38:19.016 wanted to have the debate and I'm open 01:38:19.040 --> 01:38:22.040 to what other people in this chamber 01:38:22.080 --> 01:38:24.296 think on this particular issue. Um but 01:38:24.320 --> 01:38:25.496 going to some of the points that 01:38:25.520 --> 01:38:27.336 councelor Stenner already raised. I 01:38:27.360 --> 01:38:29.175 think the issue of parking is probably 01:38:29.199 --> 01:38:32.199 the biggest um issue in this report. I 01:38:32.320 --> 01:38:34.376 think other issues that have been raised 01:38:34.400 --> 01:38:37.256 um in the report or raised by by 01:38:37.280 --> 01:38:38.856 speakers tonight you know can be 01:38:38.880 --> 01:38:40.695 adequately dealt with. for example, the 01:38:40.719 --> 01:38:43.496 noise attenuation um to deal with um the 01:38:43.520 --> 01:38:45.336 noise of of people actually in the 01:38:45.360 --> 01:38:47.256 facility for example. But when it comes 01:38:47.280 --> 01:38:48.615 to the issue of parking, I think there 01:38:48.639 --> 01:38:50.856 are some valid concerns that have been 01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:53.016 raised. I do note that it is my hope 01:38:53.040 --> 01:38:55.816 that patrons who do attend this um 01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:58.840 facility do so using non-cars um 01:38:59.600 --> 01:39:01.016 because if they're going to be drinking, 01:39:01.040 --> 01:39:02.376 I hope that they are also going to be 01:39:02.400 --> 01:39:04.856 safe whilst attending this facility. 01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:06.456 Having said that, it is still possible 01:39:06.480 --> 01:39:09.095 to drink under the and drive under 01:39:09.119 --> 01:39:11.175 the legal limit. Um and therefore people 01:39:11.199 --> 01:39:12.615 may choose to still want to drive to 01:39:12.639 --> 01:39:15.639 this facility. So on the whole council 01:39:15.679 --> 01:39:18.615 asking the question um 01:39:18.639 --> 01:39:20.776 do we want to measure the impact that 01:39:20.800 --> 01:39:22.536 this decision will have on the community 01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:24.215 as an engineer. I don't think that's a 01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:26.376 bad thing um that we can use that to 01:39:26.400 --> 01:39:29.400 evaluate our decisions in the future. So 01:39:29.600 --> 01:39:32.456 whilst I'm open to um other points of 01:39:32.480 --> 01:39:34.456 view, I think that councelor Stennet has 01:39:34.480 --> 01:39:37.480 raised um a good point. Thank you. 01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:39.576 Thank you, Deputy Mayor Simpson. Are 01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:41.336 there any other speakers? Yes. 01:39:41.360 --> 01:39:43.095 To the amendment only. Thank you. 01:39:43.119 --> 01:39:45.576 To the amendment. No, Madame May. 01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:47.496 Yes, Mayor . 01:39:47.520 --> 01:39:48.776 Thank you, Councilman. 01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:51.800 Um I agree. Parking 01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:54.615 is an issue in our community today and 01:39:54.639 --> 01:39:56.056 will I reckon this will become more 01:39:56.080 --> 01:39:58.456 frequent. There's no doubt about it. So, 01:39:58.480 --> 01:40:00.456 we already see it and and often our 01:40:00.480 --> 01:40:02.936 residents do come to council in many 01:40:02.960 --> 01:40:04.376 instances and they say, "We've got an 01:40:04.400 --> 01:40:06.536 issue here and and council officers are 01:40:06.560 --> 01:40:08.376 generally pretty good. They'll go there. 01:40:08.400 --> 01:40:10.296 They'll investigate. They'll, you know, 01:40:10.320 --> 01:40:12.936 we've got um a lot of the driveways 01:40:12.960 --> 01:40:15.960 around um Blackburn Station where cars 01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:18.456 park across driveways, etc., people 01:40:18.480 --> 01:40:19.976 can't get get in and out of their own 01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:22.215 houses." So, it is it's a massive issue. 01:40:22.239 --> 01:40:25.239 Um so, I I think council could already 01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:28.536 do this. Um, so I'm just saying, well, 01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:30.056 if we put this in here, this could be a 01:40:30.080 --> 01:40:31.896 bit of a precedent if we got to do a a 01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:33.336 full-on traffic survey every time 01:40:33.360 --> 01:40:36.056 there's a a permit. I mean, like, just 01:40:36.080 --> 01:40:39.080 get ready for increased costs. Um, but 01:40:39.679 --> 01:40:42.056 but um, but I can see the concern here. 01:40:42.080 --> 01:40:43.576 So, and I just remembered in the report 01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:45.256 that there was um, you know, potentially 01:40:45.280 --> 01:40:47.416 80 patrons and I I'm just going off my 01:40:47.440 --> 01:40:49.256 memory. I think they were working on.3 01:40:49.280 --> 01:40:52.280 cars per for that for that, you know, at 01:40:52.639 --> 01:40:55.496 peak. Um, so that comes to 24 cars. So 01:40:55.520 --> 01:40:57.576 there's 17. So we're potentially looking 01:40:57.600 --> 01:40:59.576 at eight overflows. So let's just let's 01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:02.600 see what happens. But I'm just I I do 01:41:03.760 --> 01:41:05.175 wor, you know, I do concur with the 01:41:05.199 --> 01:41:07.736 residents. I'm concerned with the um 01:41:07.760 --> 01:41:09.816 impact in their street and and being in 01:41:09.840 --> 01:41:10.856 that area, there's a lot of other 01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:12.215 traffic as well because I was just 01:41:12.239 --> 01:41:14.856 talking to the residents. So um but this 01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:16.215 is this is happening everywhere in the 01:41:16.239 --> 01:41:18.376 city now. So anyway, I'll leave with 01:41:18.400 --> 01:41:19.655 that. Thank you, Mayor . 01:41:19.679 --> 01:41:21.016 Thank you, Councelor Martin. Are there 01:41:21.040 --> 01:41:22.695 any other speakers to the amendments? 01:41:22.719 --> 01:41:23.416 Yes, Mayor . 01:41:23.440 --> 01:41:25.095 Thank you, Councelor. Um I'm I'm 01:41:25.119 --> 01:41:27.336 speaking against the amendment um Mayor 01:41:27.360 --> 01:41:30.360 because um in 13 years on council I have 01:41:31.040 --> 01:41:34.040 not seen tacking on a a traffic survey 01:41:36.080 --> 01:41:38.856 or some traffic information to to look 01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:40.695 at a parking for parking permit 01:41:40.719 --> 01:41:43.719 restrictions before and I think it sets 01:41:44.400 --> 01:41:47.256 a very dangerous precedent if we start 01:41:47.280 --> 01:41:49.095 doing that now. councilors, you know, 01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:52.119 with parking zone changes bring up a 01:41:52.560 --> 01:41:55.560 number of of intended or unintended 01:41:55.840 --> 01:41:58.840 consequences. On one hand, um if there's 01:41:58.880 --> 01:42:01.416 changes to restrictions in the street, 01:42:01.440 --> 01:42:04.440 it it um it does lessen the burden on 01:42:04.560 --> 01:42:05.816 residents. On the other hand, the 01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:07.655 resident then has to foot the bill for 01:42:07.679 --> 01:42:09.256 either 01:42:09.280 --> 01:42:11.256 $60 or hundred and something dollars for 01:42:11.280 --> 01:42:13.816 the third permit. And and so they have 01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:16.840 to be weighed up very carefully. I think 01:42:16.960 --> 01:42:19.336 that the way that we currently approach 01:42:19.360 --> 01:42:21.416 parking restriction changes is that 01:42:21.440 --> 01:42:23.736 members of the community reach out 01:42:23.760 --> 01:42:26.695 either formally or informally and then 01:42:26.719 --> 01:42:28.615 and then officers then look at the area 01:42:28.639 --> 01:42:31.639 and then and then go to residents to 01:42:32.239 --> 01:42:35.239 see if they want a parking change. Um a 01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:38.600 trigger of a counselor putting it up um 01:42:39.520 --> 01:42:41.976 partway through a planning debate on a 01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:45.000 on a permit. I think it's probably u 01:42:45.440 --> 01:42:46.936 mistimed 01:42:46.960 --> 01:42:49.960 and it would be better if it had been 01:42:50.320 --> 01:42:53.320 brought up through a separate a separate 01:42:53.679 --> 01:42:56.679 process and and this is in my particular 01:42:56.880 --> 01:42:59.880 ward in um in Burwood and I do have 01:43:00.080 --> 01:43:02.376 other areas going through a similar 01:43:02.400 --> 01:43:05.256 process right now about changing of 01:43:05.280 --> 01:43:07.175 parking restrictions and that's a 01:43:07.199 --> 01:43:10.199 process that we should continue to 01:43:10.400 --> 01:43:13.400 follow in my view and and that's why 01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:17.576 I'm urging you to speak to vote 01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:20.456 against this particular amendment, not 01:43:20.480 --> 01:43:23.016 because of the merits or otherwise, but 01:43:23.040 --> 01:43:25.175 it's about the process. Thank you, 01:43:25.199 --> 01:43:26.536 Mayor . 01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:27.976 Thank you, Councelor Davenport. Are 01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:29.416 there any other speakers to the 01:43:29.440 --> 01:43:30.135 amendment? 01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:31.816 I have a question, Mayor . 01:43:31.840 --> 01:43:33.816 Councelor Deputy Mayor Simpson. 01:43:33.840 --> 01:43:35.896 thank you, Mayor . Um, assuming that 01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:38.856 this amendment was to pass and be 01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:41.095 incorporated, is it possible to vote on 01:43:41.119 --> 01:43:43.256 the subsequent substantive in parts or 01:43:43.280 --> 01:43:45.736 not? 01:43:45.760 --> 01:43:48.760 I'm happy to have a vote on the on 01:43:48.960 --> 01:43:51.655 the subsequent subsequent substantives 01:43:51.679 --> 01:43:54.679 being one and two. Um, if the amendment 01:43:55.040 --> 01:43:58.040 gets through, 01:43:59.920 --> 01:44:01.175 are there any other speakers to the 01:44:01.199 --> 01:44:02.215 amendment? 01:44:02.239 --> 01:44:04.695 , yes, N. Thank you, councelor C. 01:44:04.719 --> 01:44:06.776 Thank you. I do believe there was one 01:44:06.800 --> 01:44:08.856 instance in the last eight years where 01:44:08.880 --> 01:44:11.880 we did look at traffic flow and 01:44:12.719 --> 01:44:14.296 congestion on the streets and it was a 01:44:14.320 --> 01:44:16.856 child care center. Um people were very 01:44:16.880 --> 01:44:18.776 worried up near Mitchum station and I'm 01:44:18.800 --> 01:44:20.456 pretty sure we had that discussion back 01:44:20.480 --> 01:44:23.480 then. Um so I do see this is the main as 01:44:23.920 --> 01:44:26.296 councelor Simpson Deputy Mayor Simpson 01:44:26.320 --> 01:44:29.320 said um that that this is the main 01:44:29.520 --> 01:44:31.576 issue for residents and I think that 01:44:31.600 --> 01:44:32.776 that's there are a number of other 01:44:32.800 --> 01:44:35.416 issues but this is you know at all hours 01:44:35.440 --> 01:44:37.256 of the night until 1:00 in the morning 01:44:37.280 --> 01:44:40.280 and I think given this is 365 days a 01:44:40.400 --> 01:44:42.296 year that's that's in part where this 01:44:42.320 --> 01:44:44.376 has come from. So I would I would be 01:44:44.400 --> 01:44:47.400 supporting this. Um thank you Mayor . 01:44:48.560 --> 01:44:50.056 Thank you councelor cuts. Are there any 01:44:50.080 --> 01:44:52.135 other speakers for the amendment or on 01:44:52.159 --> 01:44:55.159 the amendment? 01:44:55.280 --> 01:44:57.416 That being the case, I will now put the 01:44:57.440 --> 01:44:59.175 amendment to the vote. Those in favor of 01:44:59.199 --> 01:45:01.576 the amendment, councelor Allen, 01:45:01.600 --> 01:45:04.296 councelor Griffiths, councelor Stennet, 01:45:04.320 --> 01:45:06.776 and councelor Cutts. Those against the 01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:09.175 amendment, councelor Wella, Councelor 01:45:09.199 --> 01:45:11.416 Gun, Councelor Davenport, Councelor 01:45:11.440 --> 01:45:14.440 Simpson, Councelor Langford, Councelor 01:45:14.480 --> 01:45:16.135 Barker, 01:45:16.159 --> 01:45:19.095 and Councelor Martin. The amendment is 01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:19.976 not carried 01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:23.000 division. 01:45:23.440 --> 01:45:26.056 Those against sorry those for the the 01:45:26.080 --> 01:45:28.615 amendment councelor Allen, councelor 01:45:28.639 --> 01:45:31.639 Griffith, councelor Stennet and 01:45:31.679 --> 01:45:34.679 councelor Cutts. Those for the so sorry 01:45:34.880 --> 01:45:37.016 those against the amendment councelor 01:45:37.040 --> 01:45:39.095 Wella, councelor Griffith, councelor 01:45:39.119 --> 01:45:42.119 Gun, councelor Davenport, Deputy Mayor 01:45:42.320 --> 01:45:45.095 Simpson, councelor Langford, Councelor 01:45:45.119 --> 01:45:48.119 Barker, and councelor Martin. Mayor 01:45:48.320 --> 01:45:51.320 point of order. Mayor Mayor , 01:45:51.600 --> 01:45:53.175 you called my name. 01:45:53.199 --> 01:45:56.135 Sorry, I apologize. Councelor Griffith, 01:45:56.159 --> 01:45:59.159 the hands were in. 01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:03.736 Apologies. We'll take which one are you 01:46:03.760 --> 01:46:05.256 voting for, Councelor Griffith? Just to 01:46:05.280 --> 01:46:06.776 make sure we've got the right one. 01:46:06.800 --> 01:46:08.536 , in favor of the amendment. 01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:11.560 Thank you. , the motion is lost. 01:46:14.560 --> 01:46:16.856 We now return to the substantive motion. 01:46:16.880 --> 01:46:18.615 Um, are there any other speakers? 01:46:18.639 --> 01:46:20.056 Yes, madame. I'm going to move an 01:46:20.080 --> 01:46:23.016 amendment too, please, just to make your 01:46:23.040 --> 01:46:24.456 night even happier. 01:46:24.480 --> 01:46:26.056 Oh, that's okay. I'm very happy. 01:46:26.080 --> 01:46:27.175 Councelor Allen, 01:46:27.199 --> 01:46:27.976 thank you madam. 01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:29.095 Good learning curve, let's say. 01:46:29.119 --> 01:46:29.976 Thank you very much. It's 01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:30.936 Thank you, councelor. 01:46:30.960 --> 01:46:33.496 It's to do with one of the conditions 01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:36.520 number seven about the hours of 01:46:37.040 --> 01:46:38.615 operation. 01:46:38.639 --> 01:46:41.639 Um I'm moving that the hours Monday to 01:46:43.360 --> 01:46:45.736 Thursday. , it's it's it's the Friday 01:46:45.760 --> 01:46:48.536 and the Saturday. , to be consistent 01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:50.936 throughout with the other hours, I'm 01:46:50.960 --> 01:46:53.816 moving that the Friday is 2:00 p.m. to 01:46:53.840 --> 01:46:56.056 11:00 a.m. And of course, you delete the 01:46:56.080 --> 01:46:58.456 following day and Saturday 12:00 p.m. to 01:46:58.480 --> 01:47:00.615 11:00 a.m. Sorry, 11:00 p.m. So 01:47:00.639 --> 01:47:03.639 therefore, all days of all the week is 01:47:04.719 --> 01:47:07.719 closes at 11:00 p.m. 01:47:08.320 --> 01:47:10.936 Is there a seconder to councelor Allen's 01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:11.736 amendment? 01:47:11.760 --> 01:47:13.896 Yes, I'm happy to. Councelor Cuts. Thank 01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:16.920 you. Councelor 01:47:17.360 --> 01:47:19.336 Councelor Ellen, would you like to speak 01:47:19.360 --> 01:47:20.695 to your amendment? 01:47:20.719 --> 01:47:22.376 Yes. Thank you. thank you, Madame 01:47:22.400 --> 01:47:25.400 May. Um this is purely to alleviate some 01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:29.000 of the you know, assuming by the 01:47:29.119 --> 01:47:30.296 looks of it, I can read the room. Looks 01:47:30.320 --> 01:47:33.256 like it's got 01:47:33.280 --> 01:47:34.456 councelor Martin, 01:47:34.480 --> 01:47:36.456 aren't you meant to check with me first 01:47:36.480 --> 01:47:37.736 if I want to 01:47:37.760 --> 01:47:39.175 I check with the mover. Are you happy 01:47:39.199 --> 01:47:40.856 with that amendment? 01:47:40.880 --> 01:47:43.095 No, I'm not. me. 01:47:43.119 --> 01:47:45.095 Um, who was the second? Councelor Cuts. 01:47:45.119 --> 01:47:47.095 Was that correct? No. Councelor Barker. 01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:48.776 Um, you've really got me rattled now. 01:47:48.800 --> 01:47:50.536 Councilors, um, are you agreement in 01:47:50.560 --> 01:47:51.496 agreement with your amendment? 01:47:51.520 --> 01:47:52.536 No, I'm not, Mayor . 01:47:52.560 --> 01:47:53.736 That's right. 01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:56.456 I still think given that's the case that 01:47:56.480 --> 01:47:58.456 that you can speak. Councelor Allan, 01:47:58.480 --> 01:47:59.576 please commence. 01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:01.496 Thank you very much, Madame May. , 01:48:01.520 --> 01:48:04.215 that's okay. Um I I'm just I'm just 01:48:04.239 --> 01:48:06.376 trying to I can read the room and I 01:48:06.400 --> 01:48:07.976 think you know it's obviously the way 01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:09.416 it's going it seems as though it may 01:48:09.440 --> 01:48:11.256 have support majority support from 01:48:11.280 --> 01:48:12.776 council 01:48:12.800 --> 01:48:15.800 be that as it may therefore um to have 01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:18.376 some relief and has been mentioned in 01:48:18.400 --> 01:48:21.256 their the residents putting forward 01:48:21.280 --> 01:48:23.896 their objections. I think this would 01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:26.296 be this this particularly is what 01:48:26.320 --> 01:48:27.736 councelor Bark has hit the nail on the 01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:29.655 head how the interaction the interface 01:48:29.679 --> 01:48:32.679 between this commercial zone and this 01:48:33.280 --> 01:48:35.976 the residential area that's fine and 01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:37.896 we and as you said councelor Bark we we 01:48:37.920 --> 01:48:40.920 we have interface right around the whole 01:48:40.960 --> 01:48:43.960 city at any any given any given time but 01:48:44.719 --> 01:48:46.936 with this it's I know it's in a 01:48:46.960 --> 01:48:48.536 commercial zone but it's the it's the 01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:50.856 use that that that concerns me with the 01:48:50.880 --> 01:48:52.776 with the type of 01:48:52.800 --> 01:48:55.496 and and the hours of operation. 01:48:55.520 --> 01:48:57.095 Nothing wrong with that cuz we have pool 01:48:57.119 --> 01:48:59.336 halls right throughout throughout the 01:48:59.360 --> 01:49:00.856 cities. At least three or four of that I 01:49:00.880 --> 01:49:02.776 know of and they operate. But look where 01:49:02.800 --> 01:49:04.296 they are. They they're purely in a 01:49:04.320 --> 01:49:06.536 commercial. The a lot of them are in the 01:49:06.560 --> 01:49:08.536 purely commercial area that and they 01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:11.560 don't abut residences. Um so there's 01:49:12.400 --> 01:49:14.695 there's a concern there. So even though 01:49:14.719 --> 01:49:16.936 they may be open till 1:00 or 2:00 or 01:49:16.960 --> 01:49:18.456 whatever the hours and that is in the 01:49:18.480 --> 01:49:21.416 report, I just think that I think we we 01:49:21.440 --> 01:49:22.615 should do the right thing by the 01:49:22.639 --> 01:49:23.816 residents and at least have a 01:49:23.840 --> 01:49:26.840 consistency that it shuts at 11 p.m. 01:49:27.280 --> 01:49:29.256 right through, you know, 7 days a week 01:49:29.280 --> 01:49:30.936 and that way it gives the residents some 01:49:30.960 --> 01:49:33.896 sort of relief from from the use that 01:49:33.920 --> 01:49:36.296 I think is is a pretty intensive pretty 01:49:36.320 --> 01:49:38.456 intensive use. Nothing wrong with 01:49:38.480 --> 01:49:40.695 pool halls. I mean, I playing pool and 01:49:40.719 --> 01:49:43.576 billyards myself, but um I just think, 01:49:43.600 --> 01:49:45.175 you know, right next to a residential 01:49:45.199 --> 01:49:48.199 area at those hours of operation, you 01:49:48.320 --> 01:49:49.816 know, if it was an office, I mean, they 01:49:49.840 --> 01:49:51.336 wouldn't be operating till 1:00 in the 01:49:51.360 --> 01:49:53.496 morning and all that sort of stuff. Um 01:49:53.520 --> 01:49:55.816 and especially with you know, people 01:49:55.840 --> 01:49:58.840 leaving um you know, cars or whatever or 01:49:59.920 --> 01:50:01.816 Ubers if they've been, you know, chances 01:50:01.840 --> 01:50:03.576 are if they're over the limit, all that 01:50:03.600 --> 01:50:04.776 sort of stuff. Don't have to go through 01:50:04.800 --> 01:50:07.736 all that. But um so therefore I think it 01:50:07.760 --> 01:50:10.760 gives some some relief to to 01:50:12.400 --> 01:50:14.776 the residents if if it is a consistent 01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:17.655 closure at 11 p.m. Madame Mayor . 01:50:17.679 --> 01:50:19.016 Thank you. 01:50:19.040 --> 01:50:20.856 Thank you, Councelor Allen. Councelor 01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:21.576 Cuts. 01:50:21.600 --> 01:50:23.416 Yes. Thank you, Mayor . I for the same 01:50:23.440 --> 01:50:25.095 reasons as councelor Allen think that 01:50:25.119 --> 01:50:27.496 this is a small concession to make um 01:50:27.520 --> 01:50:29.976 given that this is the last building in 01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:32.856 the commercial two zone um and abuting 01:50:32.880 --> 01:50:35.016 the residential area. I think there's 01:50:35.040 --> 01:50:37.655 going to be a lot of noise experienced 01:50:37.679 --> 01:50:40.296 by the people in Edward Street. Um, and 01:50:40.320 --> 01:50:43.256 I think this is council says the 01:50:43.280 --> 01:50:45.256 proposal use will provide minimal impact 01:50:45.280 --> 01:50:47.016 onto sensitive surrounding land uses. 01:50:47.040 --> 01:50:48.296 Well, I don't agree with that. But I 01:50:48.320 --> 01:50:50.776 think this goes some way to that and if 01:50:50.800 --> 01:50:52.695 this is included, I may support this, 01:50:52.719 --> 01:50:54.456 but otherwise I don't think I will be. 01:50:54.480 --> 01:50:57.480 Thank you. 01:50:57.520 --> 01:50:58.936 Are there any other speakers to this 01:50:58.960 --> 01:50:59.896 amendment? 01:50:59.920 --> 01:51:02.056 May I have a question please? 01:51:02.080 --> 01:51:05.080 Council gun. , can I ask the 01:51:05.360 --> 01:51:07.496 director for city development regarding 01:51:07.520 --> 01:51:09.576 the impacts of if we were to pass this 01:51:09.600 --> 01:51:11.256 tonight, if it were to go to VCAT and be 01:51:11.280 --> 01:51:14.135 challenged, his anticipating response to 01:51:14.159 --> 01:51:15.576 that, please. 01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:17.095 Mr. Green, could you please answer the 01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:20.119 question? 01:51:21.040 --> 01:51:22.615 Thank you, Mayor . I think I'd only be 01:51:22.639 --> 01:51:25.639 speculating if I was to guess what BCAP 01:51:25.920 --> 01:51:27.336 might decide. So, I can't really answer 01:51:27.360 --> 01:51:30.215 that question. Sorry, Council G. 01:51:30.239 --> 01:51:31.896 Thank you, Mr. Green. Are there any 01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:33.496 other speakers to the amendment? 01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:34.936 Councelor Martin. 01:51:34.960 --> 01:51:37.175 Um I was just going to go into the 01:51:37.199 --> 01:51:40.199 documents again. So point three says 01:51:40.719 --> 01:51:42.536 before the use commences an amended 01:51:42.560 --> 01:51:45.256 noise and amenity action plan to the 01:51:45.280 --> 01:51:46.695 satisfaction of the responsible 01:51:46.719 --> 01:51:48.056 authority must be submitted and 01:51:48.080 --> 01:51:50.936 approved. So there are um sort of things 01:51:50.960 --> 01:51:53.960 that the um applicant must do and um 01:51:54.639 --> 01:51:57.639 it'll be it'll be in the applicant's 01:51:58.320 --> 01:52:01.320 best interest to be a good neighbor. 01:52:01.599 --> 01:52:02.856 I don't think this person's going to 01:52:02.880 --> 01:52:05.095 open up and I would hope not open up to 01:52:05.119 --> 01:52:07.496 make life a misery for the residents. So 01:52:07.520 --> 01:52:09.095 I just wanted to highlight that there is 01:52:09.119 --> 01:52:11.336 a lot of um documents here and I just 01:52:11.360 --> 01:52:13.816 again I'm just we we're making changes 01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:15.575 on the run again and I'm just very 01:52:15.599 --> 01:52:18.599 reluctant to do that. So, um, you know, 01:52:18.639 --> 01:52:20.376 if we're doing this sort of thing, get 01:52:20.400 --> 01:52:22.215 it in early, I reckon, but on the night, 01:52:22.239 --> 01:52:25.239 this is crazy. Thank you. 01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:27.175 Are there any other speakers to the 01:52:27.199 --> 01:52:28.296 amendment? 01:52:28.320 --> 01:52:29.655 , councelor Senate. 01:52:29.679 --> 01:52:31.575 Thank you, Mayor . Um, I support this 01:52:31.599 --> 01:52:33.896 amendment. M does make sense. I don't 01:52:33.920 --> 01:52:36.296 think it's unreasonable to expect 01:52:36.320 --> 01:52:37.816 business to finish at that time instead 01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:40.840 of 2 or 3 in the morning as a as a 01:52:40.960 --> 01:52:43.496 potential um impact saving to the local 01:52:43.520 --> 01:52:46.376 residents. Um, 01:52:46.400 --> 01:52:49.400 my concern always with 01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:52.376 expecting businesses to be good citizens 01:52:52.400 --> 01:52:53.896 is that the fact that where do the 01:52:53.920 --> 01:52:55.816 customers come from? The customers 01:52:55.840 --> 01:52:57.736 probably aren't likely to be just the 01:52:57.760 --> 01:52:59.095 around the surrounding streets. The 01:52:59.119 --> 01:53:02.119 customers are going to drive there um or 01:53:02.320 --> 01:53:03.896 catch public transport perhaps, who 01:53:03.920 --> 01:53:06.920 knows? Um, but the majority of the um 01:53:07.119 --> 01:53:08.215 residents aren't going to be their 01:53:08.239 --> 01:53:09.976 customers. It'll it'll be people driving 01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:13.000 in from wherever. Um, and so there's a 01:53:14.080 --> 01:53:15.655 moral hazard here. The the business 01:53:15.679 --> 01:53:18.679 isn't necessarily going to have to care 01:53:18.960 --> 01:53:21.336 u being a good corporate citizen, good 01:53:21.360 --> 01:53:24.360 neighbor. Um, and it'll be well nothing 01:53:25.040 --> 01:53:27.256 to do with us. We've told our customers 01:53:27.280 --> 01:53:28.856 u where to park or where not to park and 01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:30.456 if they do that they don't. They do. If 01:53:30.480 --> 01:53:32.456 they don't, they don't. Um, and it's 01:53:32.480 --> 01:53:35.480 then no one's responsibility except the 01:53:35.920 --> 01:53:37.976 poor residents that have to cop it 01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:40.615 every night of the week at 2:00 or 01:53:40.639 --> 01:53:43.639 3:00 in the morning. Um, so this this 01:53:44.159 --> 01:53:45.416 makes a lot of sense. I don't think it's 01:53:45.440 --> 01:53:47.416 an unreasonable impact to the 01:53:47.440 --> 01:53:49.416 business. , who knows what will happen 01:53:49.440 --> 01:53:51.655 if it goes to VCAT if it does. U, but at 01:53:51.679 --> 01:53:54.679 least we are granting a permit. I do 01:53:55.679 --> 01:53:57.655 have concerns generally about um the 01:53:57.679 --> 01:54:00.679 application but um without having a 01:54:03.119 --> 01:54:04.695 a refusal on the table there's nothing 01:54:04.719 --> 01:54:07.095 to consider but just in terms of this 01:54:07.119 --> 01:54:10.119 this amendment um it's it it makes sense 01:54:10.639 --> 01:54:13.639 and um I think it goes a long way to 01:54:15.599 --> 01:54:18.135 supporting um the the local residents 01:54:18.159 --> 01:54:21.159 concerns as well. 01:54:22.080 --> 01:54:23.655 Thank you council senator. Are there any 01:54:23.679 --> 01:54:24.776 other speakers to the amendment? 01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:25.816 yes, Mayor . 01:54:25.840 --> 01:54:27.736 Thank you, Coun Deputy Mayor Simpson. 01:54:27.760 --> 01:54:30.760 Thank you, Mayor . Um councils, I think 01:54:31.599 --> 01:54:33.816 we are just making up an amendment on 01:54:33.840 --> 01:54:35.736 the fly without necessarily considering 01:54:35.760 --> 01:54:38.615 the impact to the the owner of this 01:54:38.639 --> 01:54:41.639 premise. Um we know that there are a lot 01:54:42.560 --> 01:54:45.336 of people who would attend this facility 01:54:45.360 --> 01:54:47.896 potentially between the hours of 11:00 01:54:47.920 --> 01:54:49.976 p.m. and 1:00 a.m. Not everyone's a 01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:51.816 morning person. Some people like myself 01:54:51.840 --> 01:54:54.840 are night owls. Um, and therefore we 01:54:55.360 --> 01:54:57.256 also have to consider the um the impact 01:54:57.280 --> 01:54:58.776 that would have on on the business's 01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:01.575 viability. Um I I went to pool halls 01:55:01.599 --> 01:55:03.175 when I was younger. I think they're a 01:55:03.199 --> 01:55:04.456 lot of fun. You have a beer, you play 01:55:04.480 --> 01:55:07.016 some pool, you go home. Um that doesn't 01:55:07.040 --> 01:55:08.135 necessarily mean you're going to be 01:55:08.159 --> 01:55:10.135 rowdy, noisy, etc., etc. I think we're 01:55:10.159 --> 01:55:12.215 making a lot of assumptions councilors 01:55:12.239 --> 01:55:14.695 about people's behavior. The other thing 01:55:14.719 --> 01:55:16.056 is is that we have to consider is that 01:55:16.080 --> 01:55:19.080 when when a case goes before VCAT 01:55:19.119 --> 01:55:21.896 um VCAT considers everything from 01:55:21.920 --> 01:55:23.976 scratch. So it's not just this condition 01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:25.655 that would be considered be all the 01:55:25.679 --> 01:55:28.536 conditions the noise attenuation 01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:31.095 etc etc. So councilors we have to 01:55:31.119 --> 01:55:33.575 consider the consequences of this 01:55:33.599 --> 01:55:36.056 decision holistically 01:55:36.080 --> 01:55:38.536 and therefore again making up amendments 01:55:38.560 --> 01:55:40.615 on the fly I don't think is necessarily 01:55:40.639 --> 01:55:42.776 the right way to go about this process. 01:55:42.800 --> 01:55:44.376 So councilors, I don't think we should 01:55:44.400 --> 01:55:47.400 support this amendment. 01:55:47.440 --> 01:55:48.776 Thank you, Deputy Mayor Simpson. Are 01:55:48.800 --> 01:55:49.736 there any other speakers to the 01:55:49.760 --> 01:55:52.760 amendment? 01:55:56.960 --> 01:55:58.695 Okay, if there are no other speakers, we 01:55:58.719 --> 01:56:00.776 will now vote for those in favor of the 01:56:00.800 --> 01:56:03.800 amendment. 01:56:03.840 --> 01:56:06.456 Councelor Allen, Councelor Wellera, 01:56:06.480 --> 01:56:08.936 Councelor Davenport, Councelor Stennet, 01:56:08.960 --> 01:56:11.575 and Councelor Cuts. Those against the 01:56:11.599 --> 01:56:14.056 amendment, Councelor Griffith, Councelor 01:56:14.080 --> 01:56:16.296 Gun, Councelor Simpson, Council 01:56:16.320 --> 01:56:18.615 Langford, Councelor Barker, and 01:56:18.639 --> 01:56:21.496 Councelor Martin. 01:56:21.520 --> 01:56:24.520 The motion is lost. We will now return 01:56:26.639 --> 01:56:28.936 those for the amendment. Councelor 01:56:28.960 --> 01:56:30.856 Allen, Councelor Weller, Councelor 01:56:30.880 --> 01:56:32.536 Davenport, 01:56:32.560 --> 01:56:35.336 Councelor Stennet, and Councelor Cuts. 01:56:35.360 --> 01:56:38.215 Those against, Councelor Griffith, 01:56:38.239 --> 01:56:41.095 Councelor Gun, Deputy Mayor Simpson, 01:56:41.119 --> 01:56:43.655 Councelor Langford, Councelor Barker, 01:56:43.679 --> 01:56:45.816 and Councelor 01:56:45.840 --> 01:56:47.336 Martin. 01:56:47.360 --> 01:56:50.360 The motion is lost. We return to the 01:56:50.800 --> 01:56:52.856 substantive motion. Are there any other 01:56:52.880 --> 01:56:54.376 speakers for the substantive? 01:56:54.400 --> 01:56:57.400 I Yes. Um, yes, Mayor . Thank you, 01:56:57.440 --> 01:56:59.016 councelor Davenport. 01:56:59.040 --> 01:57:00.776 well, thank thank you, Mayor , and I'm 01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:02.456 speaking against the motion this 01:57:02.480 --> 01:57:05.095 evening, not so much on the um 01:57:05.119 --> 01:57:07.575 illumination sign, but the application 01:57:07.599 --> 01:57:10.536 for the place of assembly councils. This 01:57:10.560 --> 01:57:13.175 particular area is in a a sensitive 01:57:13.199 --> 01:57:16.199 interface between um a park and then the 01:57:17.199 --> 01:57:19.575 commercial one zone. And when I have a 01:57:19.599 --> 01:57:22.599 look around the uses of this zone, 01:57:24.800 --> 01:57:27.800 predominantly it's retail, automotive, 01:57:30.400 --> 01:57:33.095 um areas that that does not have 01:57:33.119 --> 01:57:35.896 extended hours of trade. That's what the 01:57:35.920 --> 01:57:38.215 predominant use of this area is. And if 01:57:38.239 --> 01:57:40.936 you have a look to the west of Summers 01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:42.856 Street or Gilmore Street, that's when 01:57:42.880 --> 01:57:45.880 the you use changes from from um this 01:57:46.960 --> 01:57:49.960 more bulk goods automotive style to 01:57:51.520 --> 01:57:54.520 um the more what I would call retail 01:57:55.520 --> 01:57:58.520 um aspects of McDonald's and shops and 01:57:58.560 --> 01:58:00.376 those things that have more vibrancy. 01:58:00.400 --> 01:58:03.400 Why? because that's closer to War Eagle 01:58:03.520 --> 01:58:06.520 Road where there is a definite change of 01:58:08.080 --> 01:58:11.080 application and use and and from my u 01:58:12.800 --> 01:58:14.776 particular point of view is that place 01:58:14.800 --> 01:58:17.575 of assembly is not well suited to this 01:58:17.599 --> 01:58:19.655 area. So it's not the signage and it's 01:58:19.679 --> 01:58:21.496 not the the operation, it's the place of 01:58:21.520 --> 01:58:24.520 assembly itself. Parking has been raised 01:58:25.440 --> 01:58:28.376 today and that's and that for me is a 01:58:28.400 --> 01:58:30.695 factor that needs to be considered when 01:58:30.719 --> 01:58:33.719 looking at when looking at um a decision 01:58:34.480 --> 01:58:36.456 on whether or not a place of assembly 01:58:36.480 --> 01:58:39.480 can be ha can be handled and it's sort 01:58:39.840 --> 01:58:42.840 of right between two streets and and 01:58:42.960 --> 01:58:45.016 it's on a main road and so there is a 01:58:45.040 --> 01:58:47.416 bit of a a walking distance. It's not as 01:58:47.440 --> 01:58:50.440 if you can conveniently park nearby. I 01:58:51.040 --> 01:58:54.040 am concerned about tra about parking 01:58:54.159 --> 01:58:56.856 generally from this particular facility 01:58:56.880 --> 01:58:59.336 but it's basically the use and that the 01:58:59.360 --> 01:59:02.360 change of the of of use for the area is 01:59:03.040 --> 01:59:06.040 why I'm I'm speaking um against and 01:59:06.400 --> 01:59:08.856 urging you to not grant the place of 01:59:08.880 --> 01:59:11.880 assembly in this particular location. 01:59:12.960 --> 01:59:15.960 councilors. I think that I think that 01:59:16.239 --> 01:59:18.376 generally speaking, having a diverse 01:59:18.400 --> 01:59:21.336 range of facilities within a strip shop 01:59:21.360 --> 01:59:23.496 is really important because it adds to 01:59:23.520 --> 01:59:26.520 that vibrancy. And if this particular 01:59:27.119 --> 01:59:29.496 um application was to the west of 01:59:29.520 --> 01:59:31.095 Summers and Gilmore Street, I'd be 01:59:31.119 --> 01:59:33.256 supporting it tonight, 01:59:33.280 --> 01:59:35.175 but it is a fair distance away. It's an 01:59:35.199 --> 01:59:38.135 extra tram stop away. Um and and there 01:59:38.159 --> 01:59:40.776 is and and in my view it's it's an area 01:59:40.800 --> 01:59:43.416 that is not conducive to a place of 01:59:43.440 --> 01:59:46.440 assembly. I urge you to um vote against 01:59:46.800 --> 01:59:48.936 um tonight and I'll foreshadow an 01:59:48.960 --> 01:59:51.960 alternate if it gets defeated. Thank 01:59:52.239 --> 01:59:54.936 you. 01:59:54.960 --> 01:59:56.376 Are there any other speakers to 01:59:56.400 --> 01:59:58.135 substantive? 01:59:58.159 --> 01:59:59.095 Yes, ma'am. 01:59:59.119 --> 02:00:02.119 Thank you, Council Sten. I was going to 02:00:02.239 --> 02:00:04.776 um 02:00:04.800 --> 02:00:07.175 say I'm voting for this reluctantly 02:00:07.199 --> 02:00:10.199 because um there was no alternative to 02:00:11.360 --> 02:00:14.360 refuse um but council Devport has 02:00:14.719 --> 02:00:16.615 foreshadowed an alternative to refuse. 02:00:16.639 --> 02:00:19.639 So um I'll be voting against this. Thank 02:00:19.760 --> 02:00:22.760 you. 02:00:22.960 --> 02:00:25.496 Are there any speakers to the motion? 02:00:25.520 --> 02:00:26.776 yes, Mayor . 02:00:26.800 --> 02:00:29.095 Thank you, Council Cuts. Yes, I'll be 02:00:29.119 --> 02:00:31.256 voting against the current motion. I 02:00:31.280 --> 02:00:33.816 believe that the um emails and I'd like 02:00:33.840 --> 02:00:35.175 to thank the community members who've 02:00:35.199 --> 02:00:36.615 actually written to councilors about 02:00:36.639 --> 02:00:39.095 this. we've heard you and we 02:00:39.119 --> 02:00:41.095 understand and given that this is right 02:00:41.119 --> 02:00:43.896 next to residential area, commercial 02:00:43.920 --> 02:00:46.296 zone 2, last building in the commercial 02:00:46.320 --> 02:00:49.095 two zone. there's a park next door, 02:00:49.119 --> 02:00:51.175 there's no smoking in the building, so 02:00:51.199 --> 02:00:53.175 they'll be clearly going outside. 02:00:53.199 --> 02:00:55.095 There'll be drinking. There's a park 02:00:55.119 --> 02:00:58.056 next door, remember? And I think this is 02:00:58.080 --> 02:00:59.416 some of the things and the cons and 02:00:59.440 --> 02:01:02.215 rightfully concerns of the community 02:01:02.239 --> 02:01:04.456 for this. And so I disagree with the 02:01:04.480 --> 02:01:07.480 recommendation from council that the 02:01:07.520 --> 02:01:09.416 place of assembly and so forth is 02:01:09.440 --> 02:01:11.016 acceptable and should not unreasonably 02:01:11.040 --> 02:01:12.376 impact the amenity of adjacent 02:01:12.400 --> 02:01:13.896 properties. I don't I don't believe 02:01:13.920 --> 02:01:15.816 that. I think it will it will 02:01:15.840 --> 02:01:18.296 unreasonably impact the um amenity of 02:01:18.320 --> 02:01:20.936 the local area and I will be not 02:01:20.960 --> 02:01:22.776 supporting this. Thank you may 02:01:22.800 --> 02:01:24.135 thank you councelor cuts. Are there any 02:01:24.159 --> 02:01:25.256 other speakers to the motion? 02:01:25.280 --> 02:01:26.695 Yeah. Thank you, Council Allen. Thank 02:01:26.719 --> 02:01:29.256 you, Madam Mayor . I also will be 02:01:29.280 --> 02:01:31.416 voting against this particular motion. 02:01:31.440 --> 02:01:34.440 the hours um the hours worry me 02:01:34.880 --> 02:01:36.135 before. That's hence why I put up that 02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:37.575 amendment. Okay, it didn't get through. 02:01:37.599 --> 02:01:40.599 Okay, fair enough. Um but as what 02:01:42.560 --> 02:01:45.175 three preceding councils have made 02:01:45.199 --> 02:01:46.536 all relevant points, I don't need to go 02:01:46.560 --> 02:01:48.695 over it again. The fact the fact that it 02:01:48.719 --> 02:01:51.175 the interface is not good. I think it's 02:01:51.199 --> 02:01:53.575 an intensive use and I think as 02:01:53.599 --> 02:01:56.056 councelor cuts has rightly said that 02:01:56.080 --> 02:01:59.080 the granting of a permit will um overtly 02:02:00.320 --> 02:02:03.320 will will have an impact a 02:02:03.520 --> 02:02:05.256 detrimental impact on on the local 02:02:05.280 --> 02:02:08.135 residences and the and the area. So, 02:02:08.159 --> 02:02:10.456 as councelor Devport has said, , if it 02:02:10.480 --> 02:02:12.376 was in just, you know, the use is not 02:02:12.400 --> 02:02:13.976 probably the use is not the bad thing. 02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:15.416 It's just it's just a situation where it 02:02:15.440 --> 02:02:17.095 is. And I just think it's the interface 02:02:17.119 --> 02:02:18.936 between the public and this intensive 02:02:18.960 --> 02:02:20.856 use. , I don't think we should be 02:02:20.880 --> 02:02:23.175 granting it. And I'll I'll be supporting 02:02:23.199 --> 02:02:26.199 , Council Devport's , notice of , 02:02:26.880 --> 02:02:29.816 motion to refuse. Thank you, M. 02:02:29.840 --> 02:02:31.016 Thank you, Councelor Allen. Are there 02:02:31.040 --> 02:02:34.040 any other speakers to the motion? 02:02:34.800 --> 02:02:37.016 I will now um, put the motion. All those 02:02:37.040 --> 02:02:39.496 in favor to write a reply. May 02:02:39.520 --> 02:02:40.936 sorry. 02:02:40.960 --> 02:02:42.296 Sorry, councelor Martin. You do have the 02:02:42.320 --> 02:02:44.296 rep right of reply. 02:02:44.320 --> 02:02:46.615 Thank you, Mayor . Um, I just like to 02:02:46.639 --> 02:02:48.536 thank councelor Davenport's comments as 02:02:48.560 --> 02:02:50.135 the um local representative of the 02:02:50.159 --> 02:02:52.135 community. I really do appreciate you 02:02:52.159 --> 02:02:53.496 engaging the community because I think 02:02:53.520 --> 02:02:55.896 that's very important and I again I do 02:02:55.920 --> 02:02:57.095 appreciate the community coming here 02:02:57.119 --> 02:02:59.816 tonight. Um, I was just going to make 02:02:59.840 --> 02:03:01.416 the point though that I do I know the 02:03:01.440 --> 02:03:02.695 area quite well and I do know though 02:03:02.719 --> 02:03:04.936 that that the the area west has a lot of 02:03:04.960 --> 02:03:06.856 that, but we got to remember to our our 02:03:06.880 --> 02:03:08.776 city is changing and it is evolving. So 02:03:08.800 --> 02:03:10.776 things are moving. So we've got to adapt 02:03:10.800 --> 02:03:13.800 to that. Um I I suggest many of the 02:03:14.239 --> 02:03:16.056 customers from this um for this pool 02:03:16.080 --> 02:03:17.976 hall will pro likely be students from 02:03:18.000 --> 02:03:19.655 Deacon. So that's just a that's an 02:03:19.679 --> 02:03:22.056 organization we just signed anou with. 02:03:22.080 --> 02:03:25.080 Um, look, in the end, the commercial 02:03:25.520 --> 02:03:27.575 zone 2 does support this type of use. 02:03:27.599 --> 02:03:29.336 There's other businesses there. There's 02:03:29.360 --> 02:03:32.135 24-hour gyms. Um, there's there's plenty 02:03:32.159 --> 02:03:35.159 of other pool halls in our community. 02:03:35.440 --> 02:03:37.575 You know, if you look up Google Maps, 02:03:37.599 --> 02:03:40.599 you can see them all around. Um, so 02:03:41.119 --> 02:03:43.896 yeah, I haven't look I haven't heard of 02:03:43.920 --> 02:03:45.976 too many um noting the residents 02:03:46.000 --> 02:03:47.655 concerns. I haven't had too many issues 02:03:47.679 --> 02:03:49.896 in billions clubs more probably I hear 02:03:49.920 --> 02:03:52.296 more issues at gyms actually gyms seem 02:03:52.320 --> 02:03:53.816 to have a lot of issues for some reason 02:03:53.840 --> 02:03:56.840 but um yeah so I just wanted to 02:03:56.960 --> 02:03:58.856 highlight those couple of things thank 02:03:58.880 --> 02:04:00.296 you 02:04:00.320 --> 02:04:01.976 thank you councelor Martin I now put the 02:04:02.000 --> 02:04:05.000 motion those in favor 02:04:05.199 --> 02:04:07.575 councela councelor Griffith councelor 02:04:07.599 --> 02:04:10.135 Langford councelor Barker and councelor 02:04:10.159 --> 02:04:13.159 Martin those against councelor Allan 02:04:13.280 --> 02:04:15.416 councel gun councelor Davenport 02:04:15.440 --> 02:04:17.575 councelor Simpson Councelor 02:04:17.599 --> 02:04:20.599 Stennet and Councelor Cuts. 02:04:20.880 --> 02:04:23.736 The motion is lost. 02:04:23.760 --> 02:04:26.760 I foreshadowed an alternate to refuse. 02:04:27.520 --> 02:04:30.520 I haven't fully drafted it yet, but 02:04:34.960 --> 02:04:37.575 So there you go. Parker, it's already up 02:04:37.599 --> 02:04:38.615 on the screen. 02:04:38.639 --> 02:04:41.496 Could you please explain this? 02:04:41.520 --> 02:04:44.520 yeah, that's fine. That's fine. 02:04:45.280 --> 02:04:48.280 I think um I think Mayor that the the 02:04:48.719 --> 02:04:51.655 alternate to refuse is essentially a 02:04:51.679 --> 02:04:54.679 notice of decision um not not to not 02:04:57.040 --> 02:05:00.040 to progress. 02:05:00.159 --> 02:05:01.976 I'm just waiting because what's been put 02:05:02.000 --> 02:05:04.135 up there is not what I thinks it's meant 02:05:04.159 --> 02:05:07.159 to say. 02:05:08.560 --> 02:05:10.615 I'm just going to pause May to just make 02:05:10.639 --> 02:05:13.639 sure that what goes up there is what I'm 02:05:18.159 --> 02:05:19.575 Can we just pause the meeting for 30 02:05:19.599 --> 02:05:22.296 seconds? 02:05:22.320 --> 02:05:24.376 Councilors, given that we have got some 02:05:24.400 --> 02:05:27.400 administrative issues with the um 02:05:28.560 --> 02:05:30.856 motion or the alternate motion, um we're 02:05:30.880 --> 02:05:32.536 going to have a 5m minute break. 02:05:32.560 --> 02:05:35.496 we'll see you back here at 9:20. Thank 02:05:35.520 --> 02:05:38.520 you. 02:05:39.520 --> 02:05:41.736 Okay. Um, councelor Davenport, could you 02:05:41.760 --> 02:05:44.615 please explain the alternate you? 02:05:44.639 --> 02:05:47.496 Yes. Yes, I can. , thank you, Mayor . 02:05:47.520 --> 02:05:50.520 Um, this is a um the 02:05:52.639 --> 02:05:55.175 It still says issue a not Yeah, that's 02:05:55.199 --> 02:05:58.056 right. Issue a notice of refusal. Um, 02:05:58.080 --> 02:06:01.080 and it's essentially on the current the 02:06:01.599 --> 02:06:04.056 following reasons. One is about what I 02:06:04.080 --> 02:06:06.056 alluded to earlier with my speech about 02:06:06.080 --> 02:06:08.776 the sensitive interface and a place of 02:06:08.800 --> 02:06:10.536 assembly being in that particular 02:06:10.560 --> 02:06:12.135 location. 02:06:12.159 --> 02:06:15.159 Um the second area and although the 02:06:15.280 --> 02:06:17.976 conditions tried actually I'm I'm 02:06:18.000 --> 02:06:19.575 talking to the motion I should just 02:06:19.599 --> 02:06:21.575 outline it. Firstly is the sensitive 02:06:21.599 --> 02:06:24.599 area. Secondly is noise and um the 02:06:24.960 --> 02:06:27.960 surrounding residential area are the 02:06:28.000 --> 02:06:30.776 predominant reasons. 02:06:30.800 --> 02:06:32.215 Thank you councelor Davenport. Could I 02:06:32.239 --> 02:06:34.055 have a seconder for the motion, please? 02:06:34.079 --> 02:06:36.456 Mayor , I was happy to support that. 02:06:36.480 --> 02:06:38.456 Thank you, Councelor Cutz. Councelor 02:06:38.480 --> 02:06:39.256 Davenport. 02:06:39.280 --> 02:06:40.856 Oh, thank you, Mayor . And I think 02:06:40.880 --> 02:06:42.615 that we've already had quite a 02:06:42.639 --> 02:06:45.639 substantial debate um in the in the the 02:06:46.719 --> 02:06:48.296 last round that we've had the discussion 02:06:48.320 --> 02:06:50.536 on. So I'm not going to reprosecute any 02:06:50.560 --> 02:06:53.336 of the arguments other than to say that 02:06:53.360 --> 02:06:56.360 I have captured um with the help of our 02:06:56.639 --> 02:06:58.776 council officers the key points that 02:06:58.800 --> 02:07:00.856 have been raised in the debate tonight 02:07:00.880 --> 02:07:03.880 as a reasons um to issue a notice of 02:07:04.639 --> 02:07:06.856 refusal to grant a planning permit in 02:07:06.880 --> 02:07:08.536 this case. I urge your support for this 02:07:08.560 --> 02:07:11.336 motion so we can give certainty um at 02:07:11.360 --> 02:07:13.175 this point in the process both to the 02:07:13.199 --> 02:07:15.416 applicant and the surrounding residents. 02:07:15.440 --> 02:07:18.440 Thank you, Mayor . Council cuts. Um, 02:07:20.639 --> 02:07:22.456 look, I won't add anything. I think 02:07:22.480 --> 02:07:24.615 we've had an exhaustive discussion with 02:07:24.639 --> 02:07:26.856 this, so I just say that I'll support 02:07:26.880 --> 02:07:28.296 this refusal. Thank you. 02:07:28.320 --> 02:07:30.376 Thank you, Council Cuts. Is there any 02:07:30.400 --> 02:07:33.400 speakers? 02:07:33.760 --> 02:07:36.135 It was just a question um acknowledging 02:07:36.159 --> 02:07:39.159 that the last motion's been defeated. 02:07:40.320 --> 02:07:43.320 Is this in terms of the permit and is 02:07:45.920 --> 02:07:48.920 this would Should we essentially being 02:07:49.360 --> 02:07:50.856 support this based on bring it to 02:07:50.880 --> 02:07:52.936 finality for the council in terms of the 02:07:52.960 --> 02:07:55.016 permit holder because otherwise if we 02:07:55.040 --> 02:07:58.040 don't do this just does it just sit 02:07:58.560 --> 02:08:00.536 there. Can I get an answer from um 02:08:00.560 --> 02:08:01.496 council office? 02:08:01.520 --> 02:08:03.736 CEO please 02:08:03.760 --> 02:08:04.936 through your me just quite a proper 02:08:04.960 --> 02:08:05.416 question. 02:08:05.440 --> 02:08:08.440 So at the moment we haven't approved or 02:08:09.280 --> 02:08:12.280 denied a permit. So what happens from 02:08:12.560 --> 02:08:14.456 that process? 02:08:14.480 --> 02:08:17.480 through you may. So if council was to 02:08:17.920 --> 02:08:20.920 vote to support the motion before you 02:08:21.760 --> 02:08:22.536 to refuse 02:08:22.560 --> 02:08:23.336 y 02:08:23.360 --> 02:08:25.496 the matter as far as council's concerned 02:08:25.520 --> 02:08:27.575 has closed its decision. So it is 02:08:27.599 --> 02:08:29.416 refused but the matter as you would be 02:08:29.440 --> 02:08:32.440 aware may be appealed by the applicant 02:08:32.560 --> 02:08:34.296 and indeed an objector if they're not 02:08:34.320 --> 02:08:36.856 happy in terms of the grounds and could 02:08:36.880 --> 02:08:38.135 go to VCAP 02:08:38.159 --> 02:08:39.896 and if we don't close the matter with 02:08:39.920 --> 02:08:42.920 this motion. So if you don't So 02:08:43.599 --> 02:08:45.016 well at the moment there's no other 02:08:45.040 --> 02:08:47.095 option other at the moment to conclude. 02:08:47.119 --> 02:08:48.936 You've got a refusal before you if it's 02:08:48.960 --> 02:08:50.856 not closed by some other thing some 02:08:50.880 --> 02:08:53.416 other process. and Jeff will be best 02:08:53.440 --> 02:08:54.615 to answer this but you could run the 02:08:54.639 --> 02:08:57.175 risk of being out of time. Um but the 02:08:57.199 --> 02:08:59.575 bottom line is is what's before council 02:08:59.599 --> 02:09:01.175 now is a refusal. 02:09:01.199 --> 02:09:03.896 You vote on that. If it's if it's 02:09:03.920 --> 02:09:06.376 agreed to then that's the end of that 02:09:06.400 --> 02:09:07.416 the process. 02:09:07.440 --> 02:09:08.936 Okay. As far as council's concerned. 02:09:08.960 --> 02:09:10.215 Mr. Green, do you have anything to add 02:09:10.239 --> 02:09:13.239 to that? 02:09:16.159 --> 02:09:17.496 Thank you, Mayor . Just quickly, the CEO 02:09:17.520 --> 02:09:19.496 is quite right. The if we don't make a 02:09:19.520 --> 02:09:21.736 decision tonight, the only other option 02:09:21.760 --> 02:09:23.655 really is for the applicant to make a 02:09:23.679 --> 02:09:25.896 lodge an appeal against the failure to 02:09:25.920 --> 02:09:27.655 make a a determination within the 02:09:27.679 --> 02:09:30.296 statutory time frame. 02:09:30.320 --> 02:09:31.896 Thank you, Mr. Green. Are there any 02:09:31.920 --> 02:09:34.776 other speakers to the 02:09:34.800 --> 02:09:35.175 motion? 02:09:35.199 --> 02:09:36.776 , yes, ma'am. 02:09:36.800 --> 02:09:38.615 Council Stennant. Um I'm happy to 02:09:38.639 --> 02:09:40.456 support the refusal. Um I think going 02:09:40.480 --> 02:09:42.536 towards what has already been said um 02:09:42.560 --> 02:09:45.016 but where um 02:09:45.040 --> 02:09:46.776 we were talking about before the the 02:09:46.800 --> 02:09:49.800 issue was that for me if um we were only 02:09:50.159 --> 02:09:53.159 looking at a granting a permit um I'd be 02:09:55.119 --> 02:09:56.856 forced to either um if we were going to 02:09:56.880 --> 02:09:58.296 make a decision I'd have to agree with 02:09:58.320 --> 02:10:00.456 the permit or vote against it. there'd 02:10:00.480 --> 02:10:02.536 be no decision to be made and that would 02:10:02.560 --> 02:10:04.536 put council in a worse position I feel 02:10:04.560 --> 02:10:06.456 because we basically having not made a 02:10:06.480 --> 02:10:08.296 permit the applicant could go to VCAT 02:10:08.320 --> 02:10:09.976 under failure to decide. So I think 02:10:10.000 --> 02:10:11.336 we've got to make a decision one way or 02:10:11.360 --> 02:10:13.496 the other and the grant app permit or 02:10:13.520 --> 02:10:16.055 don't grant a permit. The refusal gives 02:10:16.079 --> 02:10:17.896 us the option to do that to make a 02:10:17.920 --> 02:10:19.736 different decision and to actually 02:10:19.760 --> 02:10:21.175 refuse a permit. So I'm happy to support 02:10:21.199 --> 02:10:23.256 that. Thank you ma'am. 02:10:23.280 --> 02:10:24.615 Thank you councelor Sten. Are there any 02:10:24.639 --> 02:10:25.655 other speakers to the motion? 02:10:25.679 --> 02:10:26.296 Yes may. 02:10:26.320 --> 02:10:27.736 Thank you councelor Barker. Speaking 02:10:27.760 --> 02:10:29.736 against, it's meaningless to speak 02:10:29.760 --> 02:10:31.655 against, but I think a couple of points 02:10:31.679 --> 02:10:33.896 need to be raised. Well, you've achieved 02:10:33.920 --> 02:10:35.496 a couple of things tonight. First one, 02:10:35.520 --> 02:10:37.976 we've basically just burnt 30,000 bucks 02:10:38.000 --> 02:10:41.000 worth of hardworking Australians rates. 02:10:41.440 --> 02:10:42.615 That's what we've done. We'll go to 02:10:42.639 --> 02:10:45.095 VCAT. Have a crack. Good luck. It's 02:10:45.119 --> 02:10:47.336 commercially twozoned land that yes, 02:10:47.360 --> 02:10:49.496 there's an interface. Yes, I feel for 02:10:49.520 --> 02:10:51.575 the residents. And this is right across 02:10:51.599 --> 02:10:53.816 my ward. People live next to hospitals. 02:10:53.840 --> 02:10:56.376 Residentials next to hospitals. my 02:10:56.400 --> 02:10:58.135 street. We've got cafes that open from 02:10:58.159 --> 02:10:59.416 six o'clock in the morning till 10 02:10:59.440 --> 02:11:01.416 o'clock at night. It's a fact of life. 02:11:01.440 --> 02:11:03.736 It's a public road. 02:11:03.760 --> 02:11:05.256 But I want to ask you something else to 02:11:05.280 --> 02:11:07.336 think about. Counselors talk about you 02:11:07.360 --> 02:11:09.175 want jobs for your kids. There you go. 02:11:09.199 --> 02:11:11.175 Just smoked a couple of them. People are 02:11:11.199 --> 02:11:13.976 wondering why Victoria's in a recession. 02:11:14.000 --> 02:11:17.000 Oh well, you wonder why local government 02:11:17.599 --> 02:11:20.135 gets stripped of any planning authority. 02:11:20.159 --> 02:11:21.896 Hello. 02:11:21.920 --> 02:11:24.296 Hello. 02:11:24.320 --> 02:11:27.016 Now, sometimes planning and local 02:11:27.040 --> 02:11:29.016 government, it's not easy. You're 02:11:29.040 --> 02:11:31.016 balancing difficult things, emotive 02:11:31.040 --> 02:11:33.816 things. I had people that objected to a 02:11:33.840 --> 02:11:36.695 30,000 square meter 02:11:36.719 --> 02:11:39.336 medical consulting building in my 02:11:39.360 --> 02:11:41.095 ward. Oh, that'd be terrible. It'll be 02:11:41.119 --> 02:11:42.615 the end of the world and all the rest of 02:11:42.639 --> 02:11:44.135 it. But of course, they'd be able to 02:11:44.159 --> 02:11:46.615 walk to the best health specialists in 02:11:46.639 --> 02:11:49.016 the country. Their access to health 02:11:49.040 --> 02:11:51.256 services would improve. the jobs for 02:11:51.280 --> 02:11:52.776 their children, their wives, their 02:11:52.800 --> 02:11:54.615 daughters 02:11:54.639 --> 02:11:56.456 would improve. 02:11:56.480 --> 02:11:58.135 Now, we're balancing things here, but 02:11:58.159 --> 02:11:59.976 tonight you decide to throw that out in 02:12:00.000 --> 02:12:02.055 the interest of performative. I wonder 02:12:02.079 --> 02:12:03.655 what the what the resident what what the 02:12:03.679 --> 02:12:05.256 applicant or the next applicant might 02:12:05.280 --> 02:12:08.135 come back with a I know you took 02:12:08.159 --> 02:12:11.159 obction to the sexual services massage 02:12:11.280 --> 02:12:12.456 things, Mayor . I'm not sure. 02:12:12.480 --> 02:12:13.736 Just say massage parlor. 02:12:13.760 --> 02:12:15.256 Massage parlor. Thank you for your 02:12:15.280 --> 02:12:17.095 guidance, Mayor . Whether it comes back 02:12:17.119 --> 02:12:19.175 as a massage parlor with no sign. 02:12:19.199 --> 02:12:21.256 Terrific. There you go. Wonder how the 02:12:21.280 --> 02:12:23.816 residents will feel then. Well, I know 02:12:23.840 --> 02:12:25.655 who they should be looking to. I know 02:12:25.679 --> 02:12:27.336 who they'll be looking to. And you 02:12:27.360 --> 02:12:29.655 wonder why you've got no power, got no 02:12:29.679 --> 02:12:32.215 jobs, the economy is in a recession, and 02:12:32.239 --> 02:12:33.816 you got kids wandering the streets with 02:12:33.840 --> 02:12:35.816 machetes because they got nowhere to go 02:12:35.840 --> 02:12:38.840 or nothing to do. 02:12:41.679 --> 02:12:43.575 Thank you, Councelor Barka. Are there 02:12:43.599 --> 02:12:45.976 any other speakers to the motion? 02:12:46.000 --> 02:12:47.256 Councelor Martin. 02:12:47.280 --> 02:12:49.655 Yes, May. Um 02:12:49.679 --> 02:12:51.575 yeah, I I would just like to concur with 02:12:51.599 --> 02:12:53.816 that cost of going to VCAD. I think 02:12:53.840 --> 02:12:56.840 that's one area where councils have been 02:12:57.040 --> 02:12:58.776 spent too much money sometimes 02:12:58.800 --> 02:13:01.256 fighting things that they shouldn't and 02:13:01.280 --> 02:13:03.256 this is going to be this case. So, yep. 02:13:03.280 --> 02:13:06.215 So, if it's $30,000, um yeah, I hope we 02:13:06.239 --> 02:13:09.239 all acknowledge that. Um, 02:13:09.920 --> 02:13:12.215 we've a lot of decisions we do in this 02:13:12.239 --> 02:13:15.016 council chamber, we really have to 02:13:15.040 --> 02:13:17.655 consider the financial implications as 02:13:17.679 --> 02:13:19.816 well as the community implications. And 02:13:19.840 --> 02:13:22.840 um, yeah, I I I suspect that , certain 02:13:23.040 --> 02:13:24.215 people thought this would have got up 02:13:24.239 --> 02:13:25.976 tonight and I I just thought it would 02:13:26.000 --> 02:13:29.000 and um, noting the residents. Um, 02:13:30.079 --> 02:13:31.575 anyway, we'll see what happens. Thank 02:13:31.599 --> 02:13:32.856 you, Mayor . 02:13:32.880 --> 02:13:34.215 Thank you, Councelor Martin. Are there 02:13:34.239 --> 02:13:36.055 any other speakers to the motion? 02:13:36.079 --> 02:13:37.976 Yes, ma'am. Thank you, Councelor 02:13:38.000 --> 02:13:38.615 Simpson. 02:13:38.639 --> 02:13:40.296 Thank you, Mayor . Um, just noting 02:13:40.320 --> 02:13:42.695 Councelor Barker's commentary um about 02:13:42.719 --> 02:13:45.095 us wasting $30,000. 02:13:45.119 --> 02:13:47.575 Um, is it a waste? Is it doing what's 02:13:47.599 --> 02:13:50.599 just for the community? 02:13:51.280 --> 02:13:54.280 Please don't interrupt, councelor Barka. 02:13:54.719 --> 02:13:57.095 I I find councelor Barker interjection 02:13:57.119 --> 02:13:59.416 about performative um theater in this 02:13:59.440 --> 02:14:01.736 chamber to be quite hilarious. But 02:14:01.760 --> 02:14:04.760 notwithstanding that, 02:14:05.199 --> 02:14:06.536 part of the issue is is that we have a 02:14:06.560 --> 02:14:09.336 planning scheme that is not protective 02:14:09.360 --> 02:14:11.736 of residents, 02:14:11.760 --> 02:14:14.376 that is not considering the impact on 02:14:14.400 --> 02:14:17.400 people's lives. So yes, we might go to 02:14:17.520 --> 02:14:20.520 VCAT and yes, we might lose, 02:14:20.880 --> 02:14:23.016 but is it a waste of $30,000 or is it 02:14:23.040 --> 02:14:25.416 trying to stand up for what is just? 02:14:25.440 --> 02:14:27.976 That's the question I ask myself. So 02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:29.416 whilst I've heard the debate tonight and 02:14:29.440 --> 02:14:31.016 I' if you've paid attention councilors 02:14:31.040 --> 02:14:31.816 you know that I haven't really 02:14:31.840 --> 02:14:33.336 participated 02:14:33.360 --> 02:14:35.256 um I've heard all the arguments but at 02:14:35.280 --> 02:14:38.280 the same time I think we have to try and 02:14:38.320 --> 02:14:40.615 act in a way that does balance out the 02:14:40.639 --> 02:14:43.336 competing interests and perhaps this 02:14:43.360 --> 02:14:46.135 refusal is the way to go with that. But 02:14:46.159 --> 02:14:47.736 I also do know that some residents have 02:14:47.760 --> 02:14:49.496 made some assumptions in their 02:14:49.520 --> 02:14:52.135 communications to us about the type of 02:14:52.159 --> 02:14:53.095 people that would frequent this 02:14:53.119 --> 02:14:55.816 establishment and they've made some very 02:14:55.840 --> 02:14:57.655 pro pjorative 02:14:57.679 --> 02:15:00.135 assessments on people who would use this 02:15:00.159 --> 02:15:03.095 facility. So whilst I have evaluated 02:15:03.119 --> 02:15:05.736 this issue on its merits, I am very 02:15:05.760 --> 02:15:07.496 disappointed with those comments from 02:15:07.520 --> 02:15:09.816 people in the community and I hope in 02:15:09.840 --> 02:15:11.575 the future that they will not make those 02:15:11.599 --> 02:15:14.599 comments again. 02:15:14.880 --> 02:15:16.456 Thank you, Deputy Mayor Simpson. Are 02:15:16.480 --> 02:15:19.480 there any other speakers to the motion? 02:15:21.199 --> 02:15:23.736 Um, councelor Davenport, you have the 02:15:23.760 --> 02:15:24.776 right of reply. 02:15:24.800 --> 02:15:27.800 Waving it. 02:15:28.800 --> 02:15:31.800 I now put the motion. Those in favor, 02:15:35.679 --> 02:15:37.736 councelor Allen, councelor Griffith, 02:15:37.760 --> 02:15:40.376 councelor Gun, councelor Davenport, 02:15:40.400 --> 02:15:43.095 Councelor Simpson, Councelor Stennet, 02:15:43.119 --> 02:15:45.496 and councelor Cuts. Those against, 02:15:45.520 --> 02:15:47.496 councelor Wella, councelor Langford, 02:15:47.520 --> 02:15:49.896 councelor Barker, and councelor Martin. 02:15:49.920 --> 02:15:52.920 The motion is carried. 02:15:58.960 --> 02:16:01.960 Now we now move to 10.2 02:16:02.000 --> 02:16:03.896 the activity centers program update 02:16:03.920 --> 02:16:05.976 phase one consultation on Blackburn 02:16:06.000 --> 02:16:07.736 nonawatting and Mitchum activity 02:16:07.760 --> 02:16:09.976 centers. Can I have a counselor to move 02:16:10.000 --> 02:16:11.896 and second the motion to move? 02:16:11.920 --> 02:16:13.976 Move. 02:16:14.000 --> 02:16:16.215 Happy to second. Mayor 02:16:16.239 --> 02:16:18.536 councela to move and councelor cuts to 02:16:18.560 --> 02:16:19.736 second. Councelor Wella. 02:16:19.760 --> 02:16:22.376 Thank you Mayor . This report endorses 02:16:22.400 --> 02:16:24.615 council's submission to the Victorian 02:16:24.639 --> 02:16:26.936 government on the phase one community 02:16:26.960 --> 02:16:29.736 consultation for the Blackburn Nawading 02:16:29.760 --> 02:16:32.695 and Mitchum train and tram zone activity 02:16:32.719 --> 02:16:35.495 centers. Over the past month, the 02:16:35.519 --> 02:16:37.896 community has engaged strongly in this 02:16:37.920 --> 02:16:40.695 process through surveys, drop-in 02:16:40.719 --> 02:16:43.176 sessions, pop-up events, and online 02:16:43.200 --> 02:16:45.816 forums. Residents have made their voices 02:16:45.840 --> 02:16:48.695 heard. Council has supported this 02:16:48.719 --> 02:16:50.856 engagement with flyers, digital 02:16:50.880 --> 02:16:53.495 promotion, and hosting three pop-up 02:16:53.519 --> 02:16:56.519 sessions at key locations. The response 02:16:56.719 --> 02:16:59.016 has been passionate and thoughtful, 02:16:59.040 --> 02:17:01.335 reflecting the deep pride people have in 02:17:01.359 --> 02:17:04.359 their suburbs and continued livability. 02:17:05.200 --> 02:17:07.495 The feedback we have received highlights 02:17:07.519 --> 02:17:10.375 several consistent themes. Residents 02:17:10.399 --> 02:17:13.176 want to see tree canopy and vegetation 02:17:13.200 --> 02:17:16.200 overlays protected. They value the leafy 02:17:16.559 --> 02:17:18.936 lowdensity character of Blackburn and 02:17:18.960 --> 02:17:21.655 Mitchum and they are concerned that new 02:17:21.679 --> 02:17:23.896 planning controls could undermine 02:17:23.920 --> 02:17:26.056 neighborhood character and environment 02:17:26.080 --> 02:17:28.936 and heritage protections. 02:17:28.960 --> 02:17:31.575 Other key issues raised include building 02:17:31.599 --> 02:17:34.216 height, overshadowing, parking and 02:17:34.240 --> 02:17:37.240 congestion, infrastructure capacity, 02:17:37.280 --> 02:17:39.335 flooding, and the need for climate 02:17:39.359 --> 02:17:42.359 responsive design. At the same time, 02:17:42.559 --> 02:17:44.615 residents have expressed frustration 02:17:44.639 --> 02:17:46.455 about the planning process and 02:17:46.479 --> 02:17:49.176 governance, the reduced role of council 02:17:49.200 --> 02:17:52.200 and the loss of objection rights. 02:17:52.240 --> 02:17:54.695 Our submission reflects these community 02:17:54.719 --> 02:17:57.655 concerns and sets out council's advocacy 02:17:57.679 --> 02:18:00.455 priorities. Specifically, we are calling 02:18:00.479 --> 02:18:03.256 for retention of significant landscape 02:18:03.280 --> 02:18:06.280 overlays, vegetation protection overlays 02:18:06.319 --> 02:18:08.936 and neighborhood character overlays. 02:18:08.960 --> 02:18:11.736 Relocation of the planning investigation 02:18:11.760 --> 02:18:14.760 area boundaries to exclude permanent 02:18:14.800 --> 02:18:16.455 SLOs's. 02:18:16.479 --> 02:18:19.256 Inclusion of Nanowatin Reserve in Silver 02:18:19.280 --> 02:18:21.816 Grove as a redevelopment site with 02:18:21.840 --> 02:18:24.840 resoning in consultation with council. 02:18:25.519 --> 02:18:27.575 an infrastructure contributions 02:18:27.599 --> 02:18:30.375 mechanism to support housing growth 02:18:30.399 --> 02:18:32.455 aligned with council's development 02:18:32.479 --> 02:18:35.479 contributions plan. Sharing of the phase 02:18:35.760 --> 02:18:38.535 1 consultation report with council and 02:18:38.559 --> 02:18:40.535 the community before phase 2 02:18:40.559 --> 02:18:42.375 consultation. 02:18:42.399 --> 02:18:44.455 appointment of an advisory committee to 02:18:44.479 --> 02:18:47.479 hear submissions on draft plans after 02:18:47.599 --> 02:18:50.599 phase 2 consultation and recognition of 02:18:50.880 --> 02:18:53.096 the outstanding efforts of our local 02:18:53.120 --> 02:18:55.256 community in raising awareness and 02:18:55.280 --> 02:18:57.816 providing feedback. 02:18:57.840 --> 02:19:00.455 Looking ahead, draft maps and planning 02:19:00.479 --> 02:19:02.856 controls are expected to be released in 02:19:02.880 --> 02:19:05.880 early 2026 with community reference 02:19:06.319 --> 02:19:08.535 groups established to refine the 02:19:08.559 --> 02:19:11.559 understanding of each center. Council 02:19:11.760 --> 02:19:13.655 will continue to advocate for the 02:19:13.679 --> 02:19:15.736 protection of local character, the 02:19:15.760 --> 02:19:18.056 environment, heritage, and essential 02:19:18.080 --> 02:19:21.080 infrastructure throughout this process. 02:19:21.280 --> 02:19:23.256 This submission ensures that the voices 02:19:23.280 --> 02:19:25.655 of Blackburn, Nutawadin, and Mitchum 02:19:25.679 --> 02:19:28.615 residents are clearly represented. It 02:19:28.639 --> 02:19:30.455 demonstrates council's commitment to 02:19:30.479 --> 02:19:32.776 balancing growth with livability, 02:19:32.800 --> 02:19:35.335 sustainability, and respect for local 02:19:35.359 --> 02:19:37.415 identity. I commend the report and 02:19:37.439 --> 02:19:40.439 recommendation to council. 02:19:40.639 --> 02:19:42.216 Thank you, Councelor Wellera. Councelor 02:19:42.240 --> 02:19:42.695 Cuts. 02:19:42.719 --> 02:19:44.615 Yes. Thank you very much, Mayor . Um, 02:19:44.639 --> 02:19:45.896 just following on from councelor 02:19:45.920 --> 02:19:48.776 Weller's excellent framing of the um the 02:19:48.800 --> 02:19:50.295 motion in front of us here, I'd just 02:19:50.319 --> 02:19:52.056 like to talk about three points, points 02:19:52.080 --> 02:19:53.256 three, four, and five in the 02:19:53.280 --> 02:19:55.896 recommendation. , one is the to 02:19:55.920 --> 02:19:57.576 advocate to the minister for planning to 02:19:57.600 --> 02:19:59.816 relocate the boundary of the planning 02:19:59.840 --> 02:20:01.656 investigation areas to exclude the 02:20:01.680 --> 02:20:03.736 permanent SLO areas. And for anyone who 02:20:03.760 --> 02:20:05.976 doesn't know SLO, it means significant 02:20:06.000 --> 02:20:09.000 landscape overlays. Um now some of these 02:20:09.280 --> 02:20:11.896 have been around for decades and all the 02:20:11.920 --> 02:20:14.920 SLOs's in White have been made in 02:20:15.359 --> 02:20:18.136 conjunction with community input largely 02:20:18.160 --> 02:20:19.576 and particularly when we're talking 02:20:19.600 --> 02:20:22.136 about the Blackburn area which is SLO 1 02:20:22.160 --> 02:20:25.160 2 and 4 and the SLO3 area is actually 02:20:25.920 --> 02:20:28.455 right adjacent to Mitchum station it's 02:20:28.479 --> 02:20:30.375 in councelor Stennets ward it's called 02:20:30.399 --> 02:20:33.399 the Walker Estate now these are areas of 02:20:33.600 --> 02:20:35.896 particular significance particular 02:20:35.920 --> 02:20:38.776 significance because people from around 02:20:38.800 --> 02:20:40.856 actually go to these areas to enjoy and 02:20:40.880 --> 02:20:43.736 love the area. So, so we've got special 02:20:43.760 --> 02:20:45.656 consideration for that. Talking about 02:20:45.680 --> 02:20:47.976 SLO3 in Mitchum, I went walking there 02:20:48.000 --> 02:20:51.000 yesterday. Um, and it's a beautiful, 02:20:51.280 --> 02:20:53.656 beautiful area. Now, that this is within 02:20:53.680 --> 02:20:56.136 what we call the inner catchment and the 02:20:56.160 --> 02:20:59.160 inner catchment um can have development 02:20:59.280 --> 02:21:02.280 from four up to six stories. Six stories 02:21:02.319 --> 02:21:04.776 if it's a um a lotment of a thousand 02:21:04.800 --> 02:21:06.856 square meters or more. Now I can tell 02:21:06.880 --> 02:21:09.880 you that Banire's Avenue, Similar 02:21:10.160 --> 02:21:13.160 Street, Mirroot Street in that SLO3 area 02:21:14.319 --> 02:21:17.319 are magnificent treed areas and one 02:21:17.920 --> 02:21:20.295 development of six stories will ruin 02:21:20.319 --> 02:21:22.616 completely ruin the whole streetscape. 02:21:22.640 --> 02:21:24.536 So that's why we want to advocate with 02:21:24.560 --> 02:21:26.776 Crowag which is called the Combined 02:21:26.800 --> 02:21:29.256 Residents of Whitehorse Action Group 02:21:29.280 --> 02:21:31.496 who's also calling for exactly this to 02:21:31.520 --> 02:21:34.520 remove the SLO one 2 3 and four from the 02:21:34.560 --> 02:21:36.856 planning investigation areas in in the 02:21:36.880 --> 02:21:39.880 two areas of Blackburn and Mitchum. 02:21:40.080 --> 02:21:42.056 Another point I want to speak about is 02:21:42.080 --> 02:21:44.856 the Nanawading Reserve in Silver Grove. 02:21:44.880 --> 02:21:47.816 And I attended the um the popup from the 02:21:47.840 --> 02:21:50.295 state government on Saturday between 3 02:21:50.319 --> 02:21:52.776 and 5 at the Nanawading Community Hub 02:21:52.800 --> 02:21:55.576 and I happened to meet Emily Matram, 02:21:55.600 --> 02:21:57.816 the executive director of activity 02:21:57.840 --> 02:21:59.576 centers who actually presented to 02:21:59.600 --> 02:22:01.656 councils a couple of weeks ago and we 02:22:01.680 --> 02:22:03.415 sat down for 20 minutes and we talked 02:22:03.439 --> 02:22:05.496 about the problems with the nonawading 02:22:05.520 --> 02:22:07.576 reserve which is land sitting idle for 02:22:07.600 --> 02:22:09.736 us. We've moved all the residents 02:22:09.760 --> 02:22:12.760 groups organizations to the Nanowati 02:22:12.800 --> 02:22:15.800 community hub some time ago and the the 02:22:16.000 --> 02:22:18.856 whole you know numbers of um hectares 02:22:18.880 --> 02:22:20.776 are lying vacant there. Well, we want to 02:22:20.800 --> 02:22:22.536 develop that land but the problem is 02:22:22.560 --> 02:22:24.056 that the state government is going to 02:22:24.080 --> 02:22:26.455 charge us windfall gains tax. So I used 02:22:26.479 --> 02:22:28.455 the opportunity to talk to Emily about 02:22:28.479 --> 02:22:31.096 that and she wrote notes. I'm hoping 02:22:31.120 --> 02:22:32.696 that that might form part of the 02:22:32.720 --> 02:22:34.216 advocacy to work with the state 02:22:34.240 --> 02:22:36.856 government so that we can get that um 02:22:36.880 --> 02:22:39.096 looked at reszoning. The other one was 02:22:39.120 --> 02:22:40.936 the ward counselors to be part of the 02:22:40.960 --> 02:22:42.536 community reference group and given that 02:22:42.560 --> 02:22:44.616 I was on the Ringwood activities, that's 02:22:44.640 --> 02:22:45.656 something we doing. 02:22:45.680 --> 02:22:47.256 Thank you, Council. 02:22:47.280 --> 02:22:49.096 Are there any other speakers to the 02:22:49.120 --> 02:22:49.415 motion? 02:22:49.439 --> 02:22:50.375 Yes, ma'am. 02:22:50.399 --> 02:22:51.576 councelor Stennet. 02:22:51.600 --> 02:22:53.496 Thank you, Mayor . Um, tonight a council 02:22:53.520 --> 02:22:55.496 is being asked to endorse our submission 02:22:55.520 --> 02:22:58.216 to the Victorian government. 02:22:58.240 --> 02:23:00.375 Since consultation began, our community 02:23:00.399 --> 02:23:02.616 has shown an extraordinary level of 02:23:02.640 --> 02:23:03.736 interest and passion for their 02:23:03.760 --> 02:23:05.656 neighborhoods. Council has supported the 02:23:05.680 --> 02:23:07.576 state-led consultation by distributing 02:23:07.600 --> 02:23:10.056 flyers, promoting online engagement, and 02:23:10.080 --> 02:23:11.896 hosting three well attended pop-up 02:23:11.920 --> 02:23:13.576 sessions. 02:23:13.600 --> 02:23:15.256 Across these events alone, we spoke to 02:23:15.280 --> 02:23:17.176 hundreds of residents, and the feedback 02:23:17.200 --> 02:23:19.896 was consistent and clear. People care 02:23:19.920 --> 02:23:21.816 deeply about the character and the 02:23:21.840 --> 02:23:23.656 environment of these centers. They told 02:23:23.680 --> 02:23:25.496 us they want to protect the tree canopy 02:23:25.520 --> 02:23:27.335 and the significant land landscape 02:23:27.359 --> 02:23:29.415 overlays and the vegetation protection 02:23:29.439 --> 02:23:31.256 overlays that make suburbs like 02:23:31.280 --> 02:23:34.280 Blackburn and Mitchum unique. They value 02:23:34.479 --> 02:23:36.616 her heritage precincts. They value leafy 02:23:36.640 --> 02:23:38.056 streets and they value the 02:23:38.080 --> 02:23:39.816 longestablished low density character 02:23:39.840 --> 02:23:42.696 that defines these areas. Residents also 02:23:42.720 --> 02:23:44.616 raised concerns about building height, 02:23:44.640 --> 02:23:46.216 overshadowing, congestion, parking 02:23:46.240 --> 02:23:48.056 around stations, public transport 02:23:48.080 --> 02:23:50.776 capacity, and the pressure that 02:23:50.800 --> 02:23:52.776 additional population growth could place 02:23:52.800 --> 02:23:55.016 on schools, drainage, open space, and 02:23:55.040 --> 02:23:57.256 other essential infrastructure. 02:23:57.280 --> 02:23:58.776 Climate responsive design, 02:23:58.800 --> 02:24:00.295 sustainability, and flood management 02:24:00.319 --> 02:24:03.016 were strong themes, as were concerns 02:24:03.040 --> 02:24:04.616 about the streamlined PL planning 02:24:04.640 --> 02:24:07.096 process, the diminished role of council, 02:24:07.120 --> 02:24:09.176 and the loss of traditional objection 02:24:09.200 --> 02:24:12.200 rights. While people understand the need 02:24:12.640 --> 02:24:14.536 for more housing, they are asking for 02:24:14.560 --> 02:24:16.375 development that is carefully located, 02:24:16.399 --> 02:24:18.056 welldesigned, in keeping with the 02:24:18.080 --> 02:24:20.455 identity of each center center. Our 02:24:20.479 --> 02:24:22.216 submission reflects these views and 02:24:22.240 --> 02:24:25.240 outlines several key advocacy points. 02:24:25.840 --> 02:24:27.896 The permanent SLOs's, VPOS, and the 02:24:27.920 --> 02:24:29.415 neighborhood character overlays must be 02:24:29.439 --> 02:24:31.736 retained and respected. The boundaries 02:24:31.760 --> 02:24:33.256 of the planning investigation should 02:24:33.280 --> 02:24:35.496 exclude these protected landscapes. The 02:24:35.520 --> 02:24:37.335 nawading reserve should be considered a 02:24:37.359 --> 02:24:39.415 strategic redevelopment site and the 02:24:39.439 --> 02:24:41.656 council representatives should be able 02:24:41.680 --> 02:24:43.415 to observe community reference group 02:24:43.439 --> 02:24:45.736 meetings and there must be a clear 02:24:45.760 --> 02:24:47.576 infrastructure contributions mechanism 02:24:47.600 --> 02:24:49.256 to support the level of growth being 02:24:49.280 --> 02:24:51.736 proposed. We're also asking the minister 02:24:51.760 --> 02:24:54.056 to release the consultation report to 02:24:54.080 --> 02:24:56.295 both council and the community before 02:24:56.319 --> 02:24:59.319 the phase 2 draft plans are exhibited. 02:25:00.319 --> 02:25:02.056 Phase two consultation we understand 02:25:02.080 --> 02:25:05.080 will um occur in early 2026 and that 02:25:05.120 --> 02:25:07.415 will be a critical opportunity for our 02:25:07.439 --> 02:25:09.736 community to influence the final 02:25:09.760 --> 02:25:11.656 planning controls before they introduced 02:25:11.680 --> 02:25:14.216 mid year. Council will continue to 02:25:14.240 --> 02:25:16.216 advocate and should for sensitive 02:25:16.240 --> 02:25:17.976 balanced outcomes that protect local 02:25:18.000 --> 02:25:20.375 character environmental values heritage 02:25:20.399 --> 02:25:22.375 assets and livability. I'd like to 02:25:22.399 --> 02:25:24.056 congratulate the residents of White 02:25:24.080 --> 02:25:26.136 Horse for their active participation so 02:25:26.160 --> 02:25:28.136 far. Their engagement has been 02:25:28.160 --> 02:25:29.496 thoughtful, passionate, and 02:25:29.520 --> 02:25:32.136 constructive, and it is essential that 02:25:32.160 --> 02:25:34.856 their perspectives continue to be heard. 02:25:34.880 --> 02:25:37.576 I commend this recommendation to 02:25:37.600 --> 02:25:39.176 council. Thank you. 02:25:39.200 --> 02:25:40.696 Thank you, councelor Sten. Are there any 02:25:40.720 --> 02:25:42.616 other speakers to the motion? 02:25:42.640 --> 02:25:43.656 Yes, ma'am. 02:25:43.680 --> 02:25:45.496 Thank you, councelor Simpson. 02:25:45.520 --> 02:25:47.256 Thank you, Mayor . Um, councilors, I just 02:25:47.280 --> 02:25:48.536 would like to speak to a few points 02:25:48.560 --> 02:25:50.136 tonight. I think the previous speakers 02:25:50.160 --> 02:25:51.656 have done an excellent job summing up 02:25:51.680 --> 02:25:53.896 this motion and that's to do with 02:25:53.920 --> 02:25:55.896 point three regarding the removal of the 02:25:55.920 --> 02:25:58.295 SLOs's from the catchment area and the 02:25:58.319 --> 02:26:00.216 reason I support this particular item 02:26:00.240 --> 02:26:03.240 very vigorously is because there is some 02:26:03.520 --> 02:26:06.056 confusion in the community about what 02:26:06.080 --> 02:26:08.696 would take precedence the zone or the 02:26:08.720 --> 02:26:11.176 overlay and if it's the overlay then 02:26:11.200 --> 02:26:13.335 everything is all right but if the zone 02:26:13.359 --> 02:26:15.016 was to take precedence then that would 02:26:15.040 --> 02:26:16.936 allow um development that would be 02:26:16.960 --> 02:26:19.960 inappropriate in the so SL1 area in 02:26:20.640 --> 02:26:22.696 Blackburn. Just in case councilors 02:26:22.720 --> 02:26:23.816 aren't aware, the current planning 02:26:23.840 --> 02:26:26.840 investigation area um cuts across Linham 02:26:26.880 --> 02:26:28.455 Street in Blackburn, which is just the 02:26:28.479 --> 02:26:30.856 top end of the SLO1. So, it takes in um 02:26:30.880 --> 02:26:33.415 that particular sliver of the SLO1 as 02:26:33.439 --> 02:26:35.335 well as some of the SLO2 areas in 02:26:35.359 --> 02:26:37.415 Blackburn before it goes over Blackburn 02:26:37.439 --> 02:26:40.295 Road and back up to eventually back up 02:26:40.319 --> 02:26:42.696 to Whitehorse Road. And so, one of the 02:26:42.720 --> 02:26:44.216 questions I first had counselors when I 02:26:44.240 --> 02:26:46.936 saw this map was why why put the line 02:26:46.960 --> 02:26:48.455 there? like why are you just cutting 02:26:48.479 --> 02:26:50.776 across the top of the SLO1? Like if you 02:26:50.800 --> 02:26:51.896 wanted to take in the whole area, 02:26:51.920 --> 02:26:53.656 wouldn't you take in the whole area? If 02:26:53.680 --> 02:26:55.096 you want to take in no area, take in no 02:26:55.120 --> 02:26:56.936 area. Why why put it there? And it seems 02:26:56.960 --> 02:26:59.415 to me that it's been a decision that has 02:26:59.439 --> 02:27:01.816 not necessarily taken into account the 02:27:01.840 --> 02:27:04.295 um the context of the area. U we know 02:27:04.319 --> 02:27:06.455 that the BBird area is nationally trust 02:27:06.479 --> 02:27:08.455 protected. It's been that way for 50 02:27:08.479 --> 02:27:10.295 years. It forms a significant part of 02:27:10.319 --> 02:27:12.455 the local environment, the ecosystems, 02:27:12.479 --> 02:27:13.976 and the neighborhood character of the 02:27:14.000 --> 02:27:17.000 Blackburn area. And as such um I agree 02:27:17.040 --> 02:27:19.016 with residents who have approached me to 02:27:19.040 --> 02:27:20.696 discuss this topic that it shouldn't be 02:27:20.720 --> 02:27:23.720 part of um the activity center. But 02:27:23.840 --> 02:27:25.415 going back to that confusion issue, the 02:27:25.439 --> 02:27:27.816 simplest way to resolve that confusion 02:27:27.840 --> 02:27:29.976 is to remove all the SLOs's from the 02:27:30.000 --> 02:27:33.000 planning area which is what um the .3 02:27:33.600 --> 02:27:35.896 in the motion before us seeks to do. So 02:27:35.920 --> 02:27:37.576 councilors on the whole there are many 02:27:37.600 --> 02:27:40.056 many reasons in the report tonight that 02:27:40.080 --> 02:27:42.295 we need to support this motion but I 02:27:42.319 --> 02:27:44.536 think from a reassurance to the 02:27:44.560 --> 02:27:47.335 community perspective the easiest way to 02:27:47.359 --> 02:27:50.359 to deal with community angst on 02:27:50.399 --> 02:27:52.295 this issue is just to simply move the 02:27:52.319 --> 02:27:54.455 line on the map to remove the SLOs's 02:27:54.479 --> 02:27:56.375 from the planning investigation area. We 02:27:56.399 --> 02:27:57.896 know the residents as already mentioned 02:27:57.920 --> 02:28:00.856 are really well engaged. Um the Crowag 02:28:00.880 --> 02:28:03.256 Forum that happened a few weeks ago had 02:28:03.280 --> 02:28:05.656 roughly 250 people at the Blackburn RSL. 02:28:05.680 --> 02:28:07.816 It was standing room only and um there 02:28:07.840 --> 02:28:10.455 was a mixture of demographics there and 02:28:10.479 --> 02:28:12.136 therefore I think that shows the level 02:28:12.160 --> 02:28:13.736 of feeling in the community on this 02:28:13.760 --> 02:28:15.976 issue. So on the whole councilors I 02:28:16.000 --> 02:28:16.936 think the officers have done an 02:28:16.960 --> 02:28:18.295 excellent job putting this report 02:28:18.319 --> 02:28:20.696 together and I congratulate them and 02:28:20.720 --> 02:28:23.576 please vote for this motion. 02:28:23.600 --> 02:28:25.415 Thank you Deputy Mayor Simpson. Are 02:28:25.439 --> 02:28:27.016 there any other speakers for the motion? 02:28:27.040 --> 02:28:29.096 Yes. Thank you madame. Thank you, 02:28:29.120 --> 02:28:29.896 Councelor Allen. 02:28:29.920 --> 02:28:31.496 Thank you very much. Very, very briefly, 02:28:31.520 --> 02:28:33.736 a lot of it's all been covered, but 02:28:33.760 --> 02:28:36.216 yeah, I'm getting to the point where 02:28:36.240 --> 02:28:39.016 I was saying, well, you know, these 02:28:39.040 --> 02:28:42.040 activity centers, you know, you can 02:28:42.800 --> 02:28:44.776 there's a few words I'd like to say, but 02:28:44.800 --> 02:28:47.016 mainly they can they can go to hell with 02:28:47.040 --> 02:28:48.216 them. Actually, that's what they should 02:28:48.240 --> 02:28:51.240 do. Um I don't see they should be in 02:28:52.399 --> 02:28:55.399 here at all. um any way, shape or form 02:28:55.920 --> 02:28:57.335 should we be having these activity 02:28:57.359 --> 02:28:59.415 centers in the city of Whiteors? 02:28:59.439 --> 02:29:01.736 We've got we've got a housing study 02:29:01.760 --> 02:29:04.760 that's being revamped and as as I I 02:29:05.040 --> 02:29:06.136 think I've probably said it a couple 02:29:06.160 --> 02:29:08.375 times in this in this place that um you 02:29:08.399 --> 02:29:11.399 know our housing target 76500 02:29:12.160 --> 02:29:15.160 but under our 2014 housing study that 02:29:16.319 --> 02:29:19.319 that's we already had over 82,000 02:29:19.680 --> 02:29:22.680 planned um residents and homes and 02:29:23.200 --> 02:29:25.415 everything like that. So why are they 02:29:25.439 --> 02:29:28.439 coming to us to to you know wreak havoc 02:29:30.080 --> 02:29:33.080 really on on Boxill I mean that's a 02:29:33.840 --> 02:29:35.736 different area but you know not not much 02:29:35.760 --> 02:29:38.760 we can do about that. but also cuz we 02:29:39.359 --> 02:29:42.056 that's got its own life. but these 02:29:42.080 --> 02:29:44.216 three activity centers I don't see why 02:29:44.240 --> 02:29:45.576 they're doing that. So I congratulate 02:29:45.600 --> 02:29:48.600 the officers with a fantastic report 02:29:48.640 --> 02:29:50.295 that raises a number of issues that have 02:29:50.319 --> 02:29:52.536 been raised over the over the last after 02:29:52.560 --> 02:29:55.560 few months with this this terrible 02:29:55.600 --> 02:29:58.536 way of having to, you know, invent a 02:29:58.560 --> 02:30:01.560 crisis and then come along and solve it. 02:30:02.240 --> 02:30:03.816 And that's what they're doing, Madame 02:30:03.840 --> 02:30:05.096 Mayor . That's exactly what they're 02:30:05.120 --> 02:30:06.936 doing. And they're mixing up a transport 02:30:06.960 --> 02:30:09.960 crisis allegedly with a with an alleged 02:30:10.640 --> 02:30:13.640 housing crisis. um that um therefore 02:30:13.920 --> 02:30:16.375 they they can think they can get away 02:30:16.399 --> 02:30:18.216 with putting up as much housing as 02:30:18.240 --> 02:30:20.056 they can and really what it's all about 02:30:20.080 --> 02:30:22.295 is to extract as much money as they can 02:30:22.319 --> 02:30:23.896 out of the planning process to pay off 02:30:23.920 --> 02:30:26.920 their very very high debt. So that's 02:30:28.160 --> 02:30:29.656 really what it's all about madame Mayor . 02:30:29.680 --> 02:30:31.656 So I commend I commend the motion. I 02:30:31.680 --> 02:30:33.096 think it's I think it's a fantastic 02:30:33.120 --> 02:30:34.936 report and all the all the all the 02:30:34.960 --> 02:30:36.936 points that have been visased by other 02:30:36.960 --> 02:30:38.856 councils are perfectly valid but I don't 02:30:38.880 --> 02:30:39.896 know why we're doing these activity 02:30:39.920 --> 02:30:41.256 sentence but anyway that's me. Thanks 02:30:41.280 --> 02:30:42.216 madam m. 02:30:42.240 --> 02:30:43.656 Thank you councelor Allen. Are there any 02:30:43.680 --> 02:30:46.216 other speakers to the motion? As there 02:30:46.240 --> 02:30:47.896 are no other speak speakers against 02:30:47.920 --> 02:30:49.576 there'll be no right of reply. I will 02:30:49.600 --> 02:30:52.600 now put the motion. Those in favor 02:30:52.880 --> 02:30:55.880 car car carried unanimously. 02:31:02.720 --> 02:31:05.016 Item 10.3 state government planning 02:31:05.040 --> 02:31:07.335 reforms update. Can I have a counselor 02:31:07.359 --> 02:31:08.856 to move the motion? 02:31:08.880 --> 02:31:10.375 Happy to move. Thank you, Councelor 02:31:10.399 --> 02:31:11.736 Llewella. Second the motion. 02:31:11.760 --> 02:31:12.776 Happy to second, Mayor . 02:31:12.800 --> 02:31:15.256 Thank you, Deputy Mayor Simpson. 02:31:15.280 --> 02:31:16.216 Councelor Wella. 02:31:16.240 --> 02:31:18.136 Thank you, Mayor . , this report 02:31:18.160 --> 02:31:20.216 provides a comprehensive update on the 02:31:20.240 --> 02:31:22.536 Victorian government's planning reforms 02:31:22.560 --> 02:31:25.560 and their implications for Whitehorse. 02:31:25.680 --> 02:31:27.976 Since the release of Victoria's housing 02:31:28.000 --> 02:31:30.776 statement in 2023 and planned for 02:31:30.800 --> 02:31:33.496 Victoria early this year, we have seen a 02:31:33.520 --> 02:31:35.816 rapid succession of reforms to the 02:31:35.840 --> 02:31:38.696 planning system. These reforms are 02:31:38.720 --> 02:31:41.720 designed to deliver 800,000 new homes 02:31:42.000 --> 02:31:44.696 across the state over the next decade 02:31:44.720 --> 02:31:47.415 with Whiteor set a housing target of 02:31:47.439 --> 02:31:49.415 76,500 02:31:49.439 --> 02:31:52.375 dwellings by 2015. 02:31:52.399 --> 02:31:54.616 While council recognizes the need for 02:31:54.640 --> 02:31:57.176 more housing, the pace and nature of 02:31:57.200 --> 02:32:00.200 these changes raise serious concerns. 02:32:00.960 --> 02:32:03.816 The reforms include new activity center 02:32:03.840 --> 02:32:06.375 planning controls, the suburban rail 02:32:06.399 --> 02:32:09.016 loop precinct planning, changes to 02:32:09.040 --> 02:32:11.576 residential development provisions such 02:32:11.600 --> 02:32:14.600 as the townhouse and low-rise code, 02:32:14.640 --> 02:32:17.640 draft mid-rise standards, and fasttrack 02:32:17.840 --> 02:32:19.976 big smart pathways. 02:32:20.000 --> 02:32:22.136 We have also seen new tree canopy 02:32:22.160 --> 02:32:23.896 protection, climate change 02:32:23.920 --> 02:32:26.696 considerations, and proposed reforms to 02:32:26.720 --> 02:32:29.256 infrastructure contributions. 02:32:29.280 --> 02:32:31.496 Together, these changes significantly 02:32:31.520 --> 02:32:33.656 reshape how housing and growth will 02:32:33.680 --> 02:32:36.616 occur in our city. The implications for 02:32:36.640 --> 02:32:39.176 Whitehorse are profound. 02:32:39.200 --> 02:32:41.816 Council's ability to act as the respon 02:32:41.840 --> 02:32:44.840 responsible authority is being eroded. 02:32:45.200 --> 02:32:47.335 Third party appeal rights have been 02:32:47.359 --> 02:32:49.816 removed in many cases, weakening 02:32:49.840 --> 02:32:52.840 transparency and community voice. Local 02:32:53.200 --> 02:32:55.415 planning controls such as neighborhood 02:32:55.439 --> 02:32:58.216 character and landscape overlays are at 02:32:58.240 --> 02:33:01.240 risk of being overridden. The financial 02:33:01.439 --> 02:33:04.439 burden of providing local infrastructure 02:33:04.560 --> 02:33:07.415 may increase if contributions are also 02:33:07.439 --> 02:33:09.576 used to fund state provided 02:33:09.600 --> 02:33:11.256 infrastructure. 02:33:11.280 --> 02:33:13.656 Despite these challenges, council has 02:33:13.680 --> 02:33:16.375 been proactive. We have made submissions 02:33:16.399 --> 02:33:18.616 to the legislative council select 02:33:18.640 --> 02:33:21.640 committee, the SRL standing advisory 02:33:21.680 --> 02:33:24.680 committee and DTP on the draft midrise 02:33:24.960 --> 02:33:27.896 standards. We are also updating our 02:33:27.920 --> 02:33:30.375 housing strategy to demonstrate that 02:33:30.399 --> 02:33:32.856 Whitehorse can meet its housing target 02:33:32.880 --> 02:33:35.096 while protecting the qualities that make 02:33:35.120 --> 02:33:37.415 our city livable. 02:33:37.439 --> 02:33:39.256 This report recommends that council 02:33:39.280 --> 02:33:41.016 write to the minister for planning 02:33:41.040 --> 02:33:43.335 seeking urgent release of the housing 02:33:43.359 --> 02:33:46.136 capacity assessment platform to inform 02:33:46.160 --> 02:33:49.160 our housing strategy. Clarification on 02:33:49.200 --> 02:33:51.496 the designation of centers such as 02:33:51.520 --> 02:33:54.056 Taliho, Forest Hill, Chase and Burwood 02:33:54.080 --> 02:33:56.936 Heights and assurance that industrial 02:33:56.960 --> 02:33:59.415 and commercial twozone land will be 02:33:59.439 --> 02:34:01.576 excluded from housing capacity 02:34:01.600 --> 02:34:03.656 calculations. 02:34:03.680 --> 02:34:05.976 We also call for updated guidance on 02:34:06.000 --> 02:34:08.776 housing planning, public release of the 02:34:08.800 --> 02:34:11.800 SRL East Standing Advisory Committee 02:34:12.080 --> 02:34:15.080 report once finalized, and clarity on 02:34:15.280 --> 02:34:17.976 infrastructure contributions to ensure 02:34:18.000 --> 02:34:19.896 councils are not financially 02:34:19.920 --> 02:34:21.896 disadvantaged. 02:34:21.920 --> 02:34:24.136 Further, we will continue to advocate 02:34:24.160 --> 02:34:26.375 strongly for improved engagement with 02:34:26.399 --> 02:34:28.776 local government, reinstatement of 02:34:28.800 --> 02:34:31.496 third-party appeal rights, retention of 02:34:31.520 --> 02:34:33.976 council's decision-making powers, and 02:34:34.000 --> 02:34:36.536 protection of our heritage, landscape, 02:34:36.560 --> 02:34:38.936 and character overlays. 02:34:38.960 --> 02:34:41.496 This report makes it clear that while we 02:34:41.520 --> 02:34:43.576 support the goal of delivering more 02:34:43.600 --> 02:34:46.136 housing, we must ensure reforms are 02:34:46.160 --> 02:34:48.536 implemented in a way that respects local 02:34:48.560 --> 02:34:51.176 planning, protects community voice, and 02:34:51.200 --> 02:34:53.335 safeguards the character and livability 02:34:53.359 --> 02:34:55.816 of Whitehorse. I commend the report and 02:34:55.840 --> 02:34:58.375 recommendation to council. 02:34:58.399 --> 02:35:00.056 Thank you, Council Weller. Deputy May 02:35:00.080 --> 02:35:00.696 Simpson. 02:35:00.720 --> 02:35:02.056 Thank you, Mayor , and thank you, Council 02:35:02.080 --> 02:35:04.056 Weller, for your excellent framing of 02:35:04.080 --> 02:35:07.080 the motion before us. Um what I'm going 02:35:07.520 --> 02:35:09.256 to do councils is take a little bit of 02:35:09.280 --> 02:35:11.816 step back from from the details of 02:35:11.840 --> 02:35:13.576 the report to maybe a little bit of a 02:35:13.600 --> 02:35:15.976 more macro level and that's to ask a few 02:35:16.000 --> 02:35:17.415 questions about how some of these 02:35:17.439 --> 02:35:19.096 controls are meant to interoperate with 02:35:19.120 --> 02:35:21.415 each other. And the first is that as as 02:35:21.439 --> 02:35:22.856 councilors are very well aware we've 02:35:22.880 --> 02:35:24.216 been set housing targets but we don't 02:35:24.240 --> 02:35:25.736 know how those targets came to be. We 02:35:25.760 --> 02:35:27.176 don't know what assumptions underpin the 02:35:27.200 --> 02:35:30.200 models etc etc. And so the call on the 02:35:30.800 --> 02:35:32.295 state government to release the housing 02:35:32.319 --> 02:35:34.536 capacity assessment platform is really 02:35:34.560 --> 02:35:36.216 important. um so that we can try to 02:35:36.240 --> 02:35:38.375 understand the rationale that the 02:35:38.399 --> 02:35:39.816 state government has for setting those 02:35:39.840 --> 02:35:42.216 targets for us. The other thing that I 02:35:42.240 --> 02:35:44.856 noticed in this report um councilors and 02:35:44.880 --> 02:35:46.856 I mentioned this in the previous item as 02:35:46.880 --> 02:35:48.856 well is that there's a lot of confusion 02:35:48.880 --> 02:35:50.536 about how these different controls are 02:35:50.560 --> 02:35:52.536 going to interact and if we don't fully 02:35:52.560 --> 02:35:54.136 understand them how are we meant to 02:35:54.160 --> 02:35:55.816 guide and help our communities 02:35:55.840 --> 02:35:57.976 understand them as well. And so there's 02:35:58.000 --> 02:36:00.295 a couple of um controls in in the report 02:36:00.319 --> 02:36:02.136 that we should consider. The first is 02:36:02.160 --> 02:36:03.816 the interaction between vegetation 02:36:03.840 --> 02:36:05.335 controls particularly in residential 02:36:05.359 --> 02:36:07.496 areas and we did touch on that a little 02:36:07.520 --> 02:36:09.256 bit in the previous debate but as we 02:36:09.280 --> 02:36:11.415 know councilors we've improved our tree 02:36:11.439 --> 02:36:14.439 canopy in this city 4.2% since 2018 02:36:16.240 --> 02:36:18.216 and that is a great effort that you know 02:36:18.240 --> 02:36:20.375 we should rightly be proud of. But how 02:36:20.399 --> 02:36:23.399 do those how do the new vegetation 02:36:23.439 --> 02:36:25.976 controls interact with that tree canopy? 02:36:26.000 --> 02:36:28.696 Um we know that private or trees on 02:36:28.720 --> 02:36:30.696 private land or canopy on private land 02:36:30.720 --> 02:36:32.856 is so important for our city because 02:36:32.880 --> 02:36:34.536 canopy on public land can only do so 02:36:34.560 --> 02:36:37.016 much and we can only do so much um by 02:36:37.040 --> 02:36:39.176 planting more trees on public land. So 02:36:39.200 --> 02:36:42.200 if we want to see our goal of 30% by 02:36:42.640 --> 02:36:45.640 2050 achieved um which is also a stated 02:36:45.840 --> 02:36:48.776 target of the state government statewide 02:36:48.800 --> 02:36:51.176 um then how do the planning controls 02:36:51.200 --> 02:36:53.496 interact with those goals? And I think 02:36:53.520 --> 02:36:55.335 that's a really worthy question to be 02:36:55.359 --> 02:36:57.656 asking. The second is to do with the 02:36:57.680 --> 02:36:59.976 contribution system. We do know that 02:37:00.000 --> 02:37:01.016 more people will need more 02:37:01.040 --> 02:37:03.096 infrastructure and we do have to figure 02:37:03.120 --> 02:37:04.936 out ways how we're going to pay for all 02:37:04.960 --> 02:37:07.816 of that. Um but there is a more 02:37:07.840 --> 02:37:10.840 confusion about how the contributions 02:37:11.359 --> 02:37:13.656 programs interact with each other. Are 02:37:13.680 --> 02:37:16.680 we just layering on more unnecessary 02:37:16.800 --> 02:37:19.096 cost to a developer which we know 02:37:19.120 --> 02:37:20.616 will ultimately get passed on to the 02:37:20.640 --> 02:37:22.936 consumer? 02:37:22.960 --> 02:37:24.936 Whilst it is fair that developers do 02:37:24.960 --> 02:37:26.856 contribute something to the provision of 02:37:26.880 --> 02:37:29.016 infrastructure and open space, we need 02:37:29.040 --> 02:37:30.536 to make sure that we're not doubling up 02:37:30.560 --> 02:37:32.375 that we're not being inefficient and it 02:37:32.399 --> 02:37:34.936 is unclear as noted in the report um how 02:37:34.960 --> 02:37:37.176 these infrastructure contribution 02:37:37.200 --> 02:37:38.696 systems will interoperate with each 02:37:38.720 --> 02:37:40.696 other. So finally, council is going to 02:37:40.720 --> 02:37:42.375 something council said in her moving 02:37:42.399 --> 02:37:44.375 speech. There's been rapid change in 02:37:44.399 --> 02:37:47.256 planning changes and I agree with that. 02:37:47.280 --> 02:37:48.455 But the problem is is we're going to end 02:37:48.479 --> 02:37:50.375 up with a lot of unintended consequences 02:37:50.399 --> 02:37:51.896 and I think we owe it to our community 02:37:51.920 --> 02:37:53.656 to ask these questions on on their 02:37:53.680 --> 02:37:55.736 behalf to the state government and try 02:37:55.760 --> 02:37:57.736 to get some answers. So I wholeheartedly 02:37:57.760 --> 02:37:59.335 commend the motion before us. Please 02:37:59.359 --> 02:38:00.616 support it. 02:38:00.640 --> 02:38:02.616 Thank you, Deputy Sim Deputy Mayor 02:38:02.640 --> 02:38:04.056 Simpson. Um do we have any other 02:38:04.080 --> 02:38:05.335 speakers in the motion? 02:38:05.359 --> 02:38:06.295 I'll speak. 02:38:06.319 --> 02:38:09.256 Thank you, Council. Mayor , um, one of 02:38:09.280 --> 02:38:10.856 the things that I find very frustrating 02:38:10.880 --> 02:38:12.295 about local government is everything 02:38:12.319 --> 02:38:14.056 looks gets seems to get looked at in a 02:38:14.080 --> 02:38:15.656 binary sense. This is a planning matter. 02:38:15.680 --> 02:38:17.176 This is an affordable housing matter. 02:38:17.200 --> 02:38:19.256 And I think the last one, something that 02:38:19.280 --> 02:38:20.375 wasn't said there was the amount of 02:38:20.399 --> 02:38:21.576 affordable housing going into 02:38:21.600 --> 02:38:23.256 Blackburn's big part of our submission 02:38:23.280 --> 02:38:25.576 there, 02:38:25.600 --> 02:38:28.600 which pleases me no end. But the state 02:38:29.680 --> 02:38:32.680 government's trying to improve and 02:38:32.880 --> 02:38:35.096 increase housing supply with these 02:38:35.120 --> 02:38:36.536 planning reforms. And that's a pretty 02:38:36.560 --> 02:38:39.560 noble objective 02:38:39.920 --> 02:38:41.176 and we may not like the way they're 02:38:41.200 --> 02:38:43.415 going at doing it but there's it's built 02:38:43.439 --> 02:38:45.496 on the premise that you know supply is 02:38:45.520 --> 02:38:48.520 determined by you know planning reform 02:38:49.359 --> 02:38:51.016 councils. We know and you've been 02:38:51.040 --> 02:38:54.040 briefed by the most nonpartisan 02:38:54.479 --> 02:38:57.479 market analysts the economists 02:38:57.840 --> 02:39:00.840 that reform of planning is but a small 02:39:00.880 --> 02:39:03.880 piece of that. The tax system in 02:39:03.920 --> 02:39:06.375 Victoria means that no inbound capital 02:39:06.399 --> 02:39:09.399 is coming here to invest, to build 02:39:09.439 --> 02:39:11.415 residential, to even build commercial. 02:39:11.439 --> 02:39:13.176 We know it's not coming here. It's only 02:39:13.200 --> 02:39:15.656 to Queensland. 02:39:15.680 --> 02:39:17.656 It's only New South Wales. Going to 02:39:17.680 --> 02:39:20.136 jurisdictions is money's funible. It 02:39:20.160 --> 02:39:22.136 just moves. The Allen government can do 02:39:22.160 --> 02:39:23.656 whatever they like with planning reform, 02:39:23.680 --> 02:39:25.656 but if people can't make a buck on it, 02:39:25.680 --> 02:39:27.736 guess what? It's not going to get built. 02:39:27.760 --> 02:39:29.335 Let's understand what that really cost 02:39:29.359 --> 02:39:31.976 us. Family formation is delayed in this 02:39:32.000 --> 02:39:34.056 country. Young people aren't moving out 02:39:34.080 --> 02:39:35.335 with their girlfriends. Where what are 02:39:35.359 --> 02:39:38.216 your religious views on 02:39:38.240 --> 02:39:40.056 cohabitation before marriage? Oh, 02:39:40.080 --> 02:39:41.496 goodness me, Mayor . I've got myself 02:39:41.520 --> 02:39:43.736 distracted here. 02:39:43.760 --> 02:39:45.335 Cohabitation before marriage, but 02:39:45.359 --> 02:39:47.256 families aren't for me. Kids aren't 02:39:47.280 --> 02:39:49.576 moving out cuz rents are so high. You 02:39:49.600 --> 02:39:52.600 know, 700 800 bucks a week for a pretty 02:39:52.720 --> 02:39:55.720 crappy townhouse in my area. really you 02:39:55.840 --> 02:39:57.576 got to be a lawyer and a dec fairly 02:39:57.600 --> 02:39:59.016 senior nurse to be able to afford that 02:39:59.040 --> 02:40:01.335 and feed yourself. So families are being 02:40:01.359 --> 02:40:04.056 delayed which means f fertility rates in 02:40:04.080 --> 02:40:06.056 this country going down. people aren't 02:40:06.080 --> 02:40:07.896 getting married and you know what then 02:40:07.920 --> 02:40:09.816 we need more and more migration to keep 02:40:09.840 --> 02:40:12.696 the whole thing's a Ponzi scheme and no 02:40:12.720 --> 02:40:15.576 one wants to seriously 02:40:15.600 --> 02:40:17.176 seriously and I'll be bringing I'm 02:40:17.200 --> 02:40:18.375 foreshadowing I'm bringing a couple of 02:40:18.399 --> 02:40:20.696 motions that hopefully interest everyone 02:40:20.720 --> 02:40:22.375 to to really do something about this 02:40:22.399 --> 02:40:24.216 because we've been just as bad as a 02:40:24.240 --> 02:40:25.736 state government we've been the ones 02:40:25.760 --> 02:40:27.896 that have been adding 60,000 bucks to 02:40:27.920 --> 02:40:29.976 the cost of a three-bedroom townhouse 02:40:30.000 --> 02:40:31.335 what are they going to add another 02:40:31.359 --> 02:40:34.359 40,000 bucks I don't know but you know 02:40:34.399 --> 02:40:36.216 let's start being fair income about the 02:40:36.240 --> 02:40:37.656 housing supply and understanding the 02:40:37.680 --> 02:40:40.680 social cost that it's having on young 02:40:41.280 --> 02:40:42.856 people. It's okay for people like I 02:40:42.880 --> 02:40:45.096 bought my house 25 years ago. Couldn't 02:40:45.120 --> 02:40:47.176 give a couldn't give a fat rats but 02:40:47.200 --> 02:40:48.856 understand what that does for the future 02:40:48.880 --> 02:40:51.880 of our country. This is not the answer. 02:40:52.560 --> 02:40:53.976 Thank you councelor Barker. Are there 02:40:54.000 --> 02:40:57.000 any other speakers to the motion? 02:40:58.080 --> 02:41:00.375 I now put the motion to the vote. All 02:41:00.399 --> 02:41:02.616 those in favor 02:41:02.640 --> 02:41:05.640 carried unanimously. 02:41:15.760 --> 02:41:18.136 Item 10.4, quarter 4, quarterly 02:41:18.160 --> 02:41:20.216 performance report. Can I have a 02:41:20.240 --> 02:41:21.496 counselor to move the motion? 02:41:21.520 --> 02:41:22.536 Happy to move. 02:41:22.560 --> 02:41:24.295 Thank you, councelor Griffith. A second. 02:41:24.319 --> 02:41:25.176 Happy to second. 02:41:25.200 --> 02:41:27.335 Thank you, councelor Stenant. Councelor 02:41:27.359 --> 02:41:29.576 Griffith. this recommendation 02:41:29.600 --> 02:41:31.176 describes the first quarterly 02:41:31.200 --> 02:41:33.736 performance report of our new integrated 02:41:33.760 --> 02:41:36.760 council plan 2025 to 2029. 02:41:37.920 --> 02:41:40.136 It's substantially different to the last 02:41:40.160 --> 02:41:42.455 council plan. Yet the organization has 02:41:42.479 --> 02:41:45.415 quickly adapted with 90% of our actions 02:41:45.439 --> 02:41:48.136 being on track. Health and well-being 02:41:48.160 --> 02:41:49.816 are now embedded into the heart of our 02:41:49.840 --> 02:41:52.295 new strategy and we're continuing to 02:41:52.319 --> 02:41:54.776 invest wisely. 02:41:54.800 --> 02:41:57.176 151 capital projects are described being 02:41:57.200 --> 02:41:59.496 underway this year. Infrastructure, 02:41:59.520 --> 02:42:01.816 community services, the facilities that 02:42:01.840 --> 02:42:04.136 matter to the community. 02:42:04.160 --> 02:42:07.016 Our five strategic pillars, community, 02:42:07.040 --> 02:42:10.040 built, economy, natural, and governance 02:42:10.880 --> 02:42:12.455 shape the Whitehorse we're building 02:42:12.479 --> 02:42:15.176 together. So today, I commend the 02:42:15.200 --> 02:42:16.856 quarterly performance report to council 02:42:16.880 --> 02:42:19.256 for endorsement. Let's note this 02:42:19.280 --> 02:42:21.576 progress, the capital works adjustments 02:42:21.600 --> 02:42:24.136 listed and continue moving Whitehorse 02:42:24.160 --> 02:42:26.136 forward. 02:42:26.160 --> 02:42:28.295 Thank you, Councelor Griffith. Councelor 02:42:28.319 --> 02:42:29.656 Stennet. 02:42:29.680 --> 02:42:31.415 Thank you, Mayor . , tonight's report 02:42:31.439 --> 02:42:33.976 provides the first formal update on our 02:42:34.000 --> 02:42:36.776 integrated council plan. Um, and it does 02:42:36.800 --> 02:42:38.455 provide a significant new direct 02:42:38.479 --> 02:42:41.479 direction for Whitehorse. um 02:42:43.920 --> 02:42:45.415 for the first time brings together all 02:42:45.439 --> 02:42:47.176 of council's core strategic planning 02:42:47.200 --> 02:42:49.576 requirements under section 90 of the 02:42:49.600 --> 02:42:51.176 local government act and it fully 02:42:51.200 --> 02:42:52.856 integrates the municipal public health 02:42:52.880 --> 02:42:55.335 and well-being plan as permitted under 02:42:55.359 --> 02:42:57.736 the p public health and well-being act. 02:42:57.760 --> 02:42:59.656 Embedding health and well-being across 02:42:59.680 --> 02:43:01.576 every strategic direction ensures our 02:43:01.600 --> 02:43:03.736 community's needs and aspirations are 02:43:03.760 --> 02:43:05.576 the at the forefront of decision- 02:43:05.600 --> 02:43:08.295 making. 02:43:08.319 --> 02:43:10.616 I'd like us to just consider just a 02:43:10.640 --> 02:43:12.455 couple of highlights that I've noted. Um 02:43:12.479 --> 02:43:14.776 the some notable community and cultural 02:43:14.800 --> 02:43:17.496 achievements. Um council celebrated 02:43:17.520 --> 02:43:19.096 heritage week with the theme changing 02:43:19.120 --> 02:43:21.816 fashions. The Schwalt Cottage Heritage 02:43:21.840 --> 02:43:24.455 Family Day attracted over,200 visitors 02:43:24.479 --> 02:43:27.335 and the featuring exhibition finding the 02:43:27.359 --> 02:43:28.936 one wedding dresses from Whitehorse 02:43:28.960 --> 02:43:30.936 showcased pieces from our art collection 02:43:30.960 --> 02:43:33.896 and the Whitehorse Historical Society 02:43:33.920 --> 02:43:36.455 including Marish Workhold's 1887 silk 02:43:36.479 --> 02:43:38.856 wedding dress purchased in Columbbo. 02:43:38.880 --> 02:43:40.616 There were also significant improvements 02:43:40.640 --> 02:43:43.640 to our local um centers businesses. The 02:43:44.560 --> 02:43:46.696 almost $700,000 02:43:46.720 --> 02:43:48.936 streetscape improvements of the 02:43:48.960 --> 02:43:50.696 Nutawing Shopping Center on the western 02:43:50.720 --> 02:43:53.016 side of Spring Road was completed in 02:43:53.040 --> 02:43:54.936 September which followed the um eastern 02:43:54.960 --> 02:43:57.656 side of Spring Road earlier. Project 02:43:57.680 --> 02:43:59.496 delivered new paving, street furniture, 02:43:59.520 --> 02:44:01.576 garden beds, pram crossings and two 02:44:01.600 --> 02:44:03.656 raised pedest pedestrian intersections 02:44:03.680 --> 02:44:06.680 at overway at Silver Grove. Supporting 02:44:06.720 --> 02:44:09.576 our local economy remains a major focus. 02:44:09.600 --> 02:44:11.896 The economic development team achieved 02:44:11.920 --> 02:44:13.816 several milestones this quarter, 02:44:13.840 --> 02:44:15.816 including winning two national main 02:44:15.840 --> 02:44:18.776 street award main street Australia 02:44:18.800 --> 02:44:21.016 awards for the Boxill cultural food 02:44:21.040 --> 02:44:24.040 tours and the Monbert place activation. 02:44:24.240 --> 02:44:26.616 Council also launched the small business 02:44:26.640 --> 02:44:28.936 permit support service to help local 02:44:28.960 --> 02:44:31.960 businesses navigate regulatory processes 02:44:32.479 --> 02:44:34.936 with 32 inquiries received so far and 02:44:34.960 --> 02:44:37.736 delivered the shaping Boxhill event 02:44:37.760 --> 02:44:40.136 engaging businesses and land owners on 02:44:40.160 --> 02:44:41.976 the precinct's future opportunities and 02:44:42.000 --> 02:44:44.616 challenges. The report also provides 02:44:44.640 --> 02:44:46.455 updates on our transformation program 02:44:46.479 --> 02:44:48.856 which continues to improve our customer 02:44:48.880 --> 02:44:51.096 experience and deliver organizational 02:44:51.120 --> 02:44:53.896 efficiencies. Overall, the quarter 02:44:53.920 --> 02:44:56.455 report demonstrates solid progress in 02:44:56.479 --> 02:44:59.415 the first year of our integrated council 02:44:59.439 --> 02:45:01.496 plan while highlighting the breadth of 02:45:01.520 --> 02:45:03.255 activity occurring across the 02:45:03.279 --> 02:45:05.736 municipality from heritage, community 02:45:05.760 --> 02:45:07.816 events to economic development and 02:45:07.840 --> 02:45:09.896 capital investment. Accordingly, I'd 02:45:09.920 --> 02:45:11.976 like to support the recommendation. The 02:45:12.000 --> 02:45:15.000 council notes the 202526 quarter 1 per 02:45:15.600 --> 02:45:17.736 performance report, including the 02:45:17.760 --> 02:45:20.696 capital works budget forecast changes. 02:45:20.720 --> 02:45:21.976 Thank you. 02:45:22.000 --> 02:45:23.255 Thank you, councelor Senator. Are there 02:45:23.279 --> 02:45:25.576 any other speakers to the motion? , 02:45:25.600 --> 02:45:26.455 yes, Mayor . 02:45:26.479 --> 02:45:27.736 Thank you, Councelor Simpson. 02:45:27.760 --> 02:45:29.016 Thank you, Mayor . I'd just like to 02:45:29.040 --> 02:45:30.936 really um call out one item from the 02:45:30.960 --> 02:45:32.696 report tonight, and that's that our 02:45:32.720 --> 02:45:34.696 athletic centers have achieved O active 02:45:34.720 --> 02:45:36.375 quality business accredititation, 02:45:36.399 --> 02:45:37.896 recognizing excellence in safety, 02:45:37.920 --> 02:45:39.576 professionalism, innovation, and service 02:45:39.600 --> 02:45:41.335 delivery. This national recognition 02:45:41.359 --> 02:45:43.176 reaffirms council's commitment to 02:45:43.200 --> 02:45:45.176 fostering a healthier, happier, and more 02:45:45.200 --> 02:45:46.776 connected community through high quality 02:45:46.800 --> 02:45:49.096 fitness and well-being experiences. Um, 02:45:49.120 --> 02:45:50.455 councilors, as you know, aquatics has 02:45:50.479 --> 02:45:52.375 been a hot topic of debate in this term 02:45:52.399 --> 02:45:54.136 and, , reading something like this in 02:45:54.160 --> 02:45:56.375 our quarterly performance report, um, 02:45:56.399 --> 02:45:57.816 just makes me all the more proud that 02:45:57.840 --> 02:46:00.455 we've decided to keep this, um, 02:46:00.479 --> 02:46:02.776 nationally recognized, , business in 02:46:02.800 --> 02:46:05.800 council hands. So, great job. 02:46:06.000 --> 02:46:07.896 Thank you for highlighting that, , 02:46:07.920 --> 02:46:09.415 councelor Simpson, something close to my 02:46:09.439 --> 02:46:12.439 heart. Any other speakers to the motion? 02:46:14.080 --> 02:46:15.896 I could I will now put the motion. Those 02:46:15.920 --> 02:46:17.896 in favor? 02:46:17.920 --> 02:46:20.920 carried unanimously. 02:46:26.399 --> 02:46:29.016 Item 10.5, appointment of authorized 02:46:29.040 --> 02:46:32.040 officers, S11A and S11B. 02:46:32.800 --> 02:46:34.136 Can I have a counselor to move the 02:46:34.160 --> 02:46:34.616 motion? 02:46:34.640 --> 02:46:35.576 Happy to move, Mayor . 02:46:35.600 --> 02:46:37.576 Thank you, Deputy Mayor Simpson. Can I 02:46:37.600 --> 02:46:40.455 have a counselor to second? 02:46:40.479 --> 02:46:41.656 I'll second, May. 02:46:41.680 --> 02:46:44.680 Thank Thank you, Councelor Martin. 02:46:45.200 --> 02:46:47.896 Councelor Simpson. 02:46:47.920 --> 02:46:50.536 thank you, Mayor . Um really 02:46:50.560 --> 02:46:53.176 councilors, the the justification for 02:46:53.200 --> 02:46:56.200 this is given um very adequately in the 02:46:56.240 --> 02:46:58.056 summary of the report. Um this motion 02:46:58.080 --> 02:47:01.080 before us allow is us appointing 02:47:01.120 --> 02:47:03.736 authorized officers um with the power 02:47:03.760 --> 02:47:05.335 within council to administer and enforce 02:47:05.359 --> 02:47:07.176 a range of acts, regulations, and local 02:47:07.200 --> 02:47:08.856 laws in accordance with the legislative 02:47:08.880 --> 02:47:10.936 powers. Um for those that are 02:47:10.960 --> 02:47:11.896 interested, the appointments are 02:47:11.920 --> 02:47:13.176 formalized through the instruments of 02:47:13.200 --> 02:47:14.455 delegation and instruments of 02:47:14.479 --> 02:47:16.136 appointment and authorization that are 02:47:16.160 --> 02:47:19.016 found in the agenda attachments. 02:47:19.040 --> 02:47:21.496 Um and some of councilors or at least 02:47:21.520 --> 02:47:22.776 some members of the public may be 02:47:22.800 --> 02:47:24.375 wondering why we have the the difference 02:47:24.399 --> 02:47:27.096 between delegation and appointment. um 02:47:27.120 --> 02:47:28.936 is because delegations are position 02:47:28.960 --> 02:47:30.295 based and therefore they can obviously 02:47:30.319 --> 02:47:33.319 transfer between individuals as 02:47:33.439 --> 02:47:34.936 different individuals inhabit that 02:47:34.960 --> 02:47:36.856 particular role whereas authorizations 02:47:36.880 --> 02:47:39.576 need to apply to named individuals 02:47:39.600 --> 02:47:41.096 and so part of what we're doing tonight 02:47:41.120 --> 02:47:42.536 councilors is updating those 02:47:42.560 --> 02:47:44.936 authorizations to reflect staffing 02:47:44.960 --> 02:47:47.736 changes in the organization. Um the 02:47:47.760 --> 02:47:49.335 final thing to note council is that no 02:47:49.359 --> 02:47:51.176 in no additional powers have been 02:47:51.200 --> 02:47:53.335 introduced to what our officers are 02:47:53.359 --> 02:47:54.936 performing. This is just more an 02:47:54.960 --> 02:47:57.960 administrative function um to authorize 02:47:58.479 --> 02:48:00.536 appropriate individuals as required by 02:48:00.560 --> 02:48:03.335 legislation. Please support the motion. 02:48:03.359 --> 02:48:04.295 Thank you. 02:48:04.319 --> 02:48:06.856 Thank you, Deputy Mayor Simpson. Council 02:48:06.880 --> 02:48:07.576 Mountain. 02:48:07.600 --> 02:48:09.335 nothing more to add. May 02:48:09.359 --> 02:48:11.016 thank you. Are there any other speakers 02:48:11.040 --> 02:48:14.040 to the motion? I now put the motion. All 02:48:14.319 --> 02:48:17.319 those in favor? Carried unanimously. 02:48:23.920 --> 02:48:26.920 Item 10.6 statutory planning report for 02:48:27.120 --> 02:48:29.976 October 2025. Can I have a council to 02:48:30.000 --> 02:48:30.936 move the report? 02:48:30.960 --> 02:48:32.216 So I move madame may 02:48:32.240 --> 02:48:34.856 councelor Allen. Can I have a council to 02:48:34.880 --> 02:48:35.736 second the report? 02:48:35.760 --> 02:48:36.375 Can 02:48:36.399 --> 02:48:38.696 councelor Barker. Councelor Allen. 02:48:38.720 --> 02:48:40.295 Thank you madame Mayor . Just just as I 02:48:40.319 --> 02:48:41.896 said this a noting report. Once again I 02:48:41.920 --> 02:48:43.335 thank the officers for this monthly 02:48:43.359 --> 02:48:45.896 report. as you can see there the 02:48:45.920 --> 02:48:48.616 numbers speak for themselves. 113 02:48:48.640 --> 02:48:51.176 applications applications determined 02:48:51.200 --> 02:48:54.200 under officer delegation 112. So let 02:48:55.680 --> 02:48:57.816 no one say that we have we are not 02:48:57.840 --> 02:49:00.840 approving permits enough as has been 02:49:01.120 --> 02:49:03.335 alleged by various members of the state 02:49:03.359 --> 02:49:06.056 government over the last year or so say 02:49:06.080 --> 02:49:07.976 we don't issue enough permits. There's 02:49:08.000 --> 02:49:09.736 got a 2 and a half thousand that haven't 02:49:09.760 --> 02:49:12.616 been acted upon. So that's not 02:49:12.640 --> 02:49:15.640 accurate to say the least. Um therefore 02:49:16.080 --> 02:49:19.080 um just starting and I think 02:49:19.120 --> 02:49:21.016 everybody's you know for noting 02:49:21.040 --> 02:49:23.656 report everybody goes councilors can 02:49:23.680 --> 02:49:25.415 go through their various the various 02:49:25.439 --> 02:49:27.415 wards and see what's happening in their 02:49:27.439 --> 02:49:29.415 in their in their ward. I was very 02:49:29.439 --> 02:49:31.255 happy to see that the table tennis 02:49:31.279 --> 02:49:33.176 academy in Cambridge Street has been 02:49:33.200 --> 02:49:34.936 approved under delegation. So that's a 02:49:34.960 --> 02:49:37.576 it's a 12 02:49:37.600 --> 02:49:40.600 12 table I think table tennis table 02:49:40.880 --> 02:49:42.616 will be very well used by the local 02:49:42.640 --> 02:49:45.640 boxill community. Now this these 02:49:45.920 --> 02:49:47.576 reports if I could just sort of we've 02:49:47.600 --> 02:49:48.936 been talking about a lot about reform 02:49:48.960 --> 02:49:51.656 planning reform and one of the things 02:49:51.680 --> 02:49:53.576 that was has been mentioned is about 02:49:53.600 --> 02:49:55.816 the core you know the core of these 02:49:55.840 --> 02:49:58.375 particular activity centers you know you 02:49:58.399 --> 02:50:01.399 know be be no no advertising and and no 02:50:02.399 --> 02:50:05.399 rights of appeal. Well, , by 02:50:05.680 --> 02:50:08.536 default, I suppose talk about unintended 02:50:08.560 --> 02:50:10.696 consequences. Well, this probably this 02:50:10.720 --> 02:50:12.776 report will probably be the only way 02:50:12.800 --> 02:50:15.255 that people have sort of access to those 02:50:15.279 --> 02:50:16.616 particular applications because if 02:50:16.640 --> 02:50:18.375 they're not advertised and you can't 02:50:18.399 --> 02:50:20.616 object to them anyway, once they are, 02:50:20.640 --> 02:50:22.295 they're deemed this deemed to comply 02:50:22.319 --> 02:50:25.255 nonsense. Um, so I think that this will 02:50:25.279 --> 02:50:26.776 be a valuable report going forward, 02:50:26.800 --> 02:50:28.936 Madame May. So, thanks to the officers 02:50:28.960 --> 02:50:31.335 once again. Thank you. 02:50:31.359 --> 02:50:32.936 Thank you, Councelor Allen. Councelor 02:50:32.960 --> 02:50:33.576 Barker, 02:50:33.600 --> 02:50:35.415 nothing to add me. 02:50:35.439 --> 02:50:36.856 Are there any other speakers to the 02:50:36.880 --> 02:50:39.736 motion? I now put the motion. Those in 02:50:39.760 --> 02:50:41.255 favor? 02:50:41.279 --> 02:50:44.279 Carried unanimously. 02:50:49.840 --> 02:50:51.736 Item 10, voting for councelor 02:50:51.760 --> 02:50:54.760 committees. Item sorry, item 10.7. Item 02:50:55.439 --> 02:50:57.496 10.7, council appointment to committees, 02:50:57.520 --> 02:51:00.520 organizations, and community bodies. 02:51:02.399 --> 02:51:04.136 One, councilors, we have a number of 02:51:04.160 --> 02:51:06.216 appointments to make tonight to various 02:51:06.240 --> 02:51:08.136 committees, organizations, and community 02:51:08.160 --> 02:51:11.160 bodies. Two, I'll begin by naming each 02:51:11.200 --> 02:51:13.496 body and then seek a nomination for 02:51:13.520 --> 02:51:15.896 each. Three, councilors can 02:51:15.920 --> 02:51:18.455 self-nominate. No movers or seconders 02:51:18.479 --> 02:51:21.479 are required. Four, if nominated by 02:51:21.600 --> 02:51:23.255 another counselor or on behalf of 02:51:23.279 --> 02:51:25.176 another counselor, I will ask the 02:51:25.200 --> 02:51:26.696 nominee whether they accept the 02:51:26.720 --> 02:51:28.455 nomination. 02:51:28.479 --> 02:51:30.216 Five, there is no requirement for 02:51:30.240 --> 02:51:33.240 nominees to speak to their nomination. 02:51:33.279 --> 02:51:35.415 Six, there are an exact number of 02:51:35.439 --> 02:51:37.096 nominations. If there is an exact 02:51:37.120 --> 02:51:39.576 nomination number of nominations for the 02:51:39.600 --> 02:51:41.976 vacancies to be filled, I will declare 02:51:42.000 --> 02:51:44.056 the council is duly appointed to those 02:51:44.080 --> 02:51:45.816 positions. 02:51:45.840 --> 02:51:47.816 Seven, if there are no more nominations 02:51:47.840 --> 02:51:49.496 than the number of vacancies to be 02:51:49.520 --> 02:51:52.375 filled, then an election will be held. 02:51:52.399 --> 02:51:54.776 Sorry, if there are more nominations. 02:51:54.800 --> 02:51:57.335 Eight. For the purposes of eliminating a 02:51:57.359 --> 02:52:00.056 counselor, a candidate counselor 02:52:00.080 --> 02:52:01.656 counselors, the the counselor with the 02:52:01.680 --> 02:52:04.295 lowest number of votes, two or more 02:52:04.319 --> 02:52:06.856 candidates who have the same lowest 02:52:06.880 --> 02:52:08.856 number of votes, the candidate to be 02:52:08.880 --> 02:52:10.616 eliminated will be determined by a 02:52:10.640 --> 02:52:12.856 further vote. 02:52:12.880 --> 02:52:15.816 Nine. If I, as the Mayor am part of the 02:52:15.840 --> 02:52:18.536 election, 02:52:18.560 --> 02:52:20.696 a part of an election, this is a an 02:52:20.720 --> 02:52:23.176 alliteration, apologies. If I am the 02:52:23.200 --> 02:52:25.335 Mayor and part of an election, the 02:52:25.359 --> 02:52:27.415 election will be conducted by the Deputy 02:52:27.439 --> 02:52:29.016 Mayor . 02:52:29.040 --> 02:52:30.856 10. If the Deputy Mayor and I are part 02:52:30.880 --> 02:52:32.455 of an election, the election will be 02:52:32.479 --> 02:52:34.936 conducted by the CEO. 02:52:34.960 --> 02:52:37.335 11. Councilors, 02:52:37.359 --> 02:52:39.016 I will now go through the various 02:52:39.040 --> 02:52:41.176 committee positions and seek council 02:52:41.200 --> 02:52:42.696 nominations for those particular 02:52:42.720 --> 02:52:45.720 positions. 02:52:52.640 --> 02:52:54.216 Right, we have 18 of these to get 02:52:54.240 --> 02:52:55.896 through. 02:52:55.920 --> 02:52:57.656 Number one, the Eastern Alliance for 02:52:57.680 --> 02:53:00.295 Greenhouse Actions. So, I'm beginning 02:53:00.319 --> 02:53:02.216 with the internal committees and I now 02:53:02.240 --> 02:53:04.856 call for nominations for the vacancy of 02:53:04.880 --> 02:53:06.616 the Eastern Alliance of Greenhouse 02:53:06.640 --> 02:53:09.640 Action is there is one position. I now 02:53:10.399 --> 02:53:10.856 call 02:53:10.880 --> 02:53:11.976 I'd like to nominate councelor 02:53:12.000 --> 02:53:13.255 Davenport. 02:53:13.279 --> 02:53:13.976 I'd like 02:53:14.000 --> 02:53:15.736 Thank you, Councelor Stenn. Councelor 02:53:15.760 --> 02:53:18.536 Davenport, do you accept the nomination? 02:53:18.560 --> 02:53:20.216 I'll first see if anyone else is 02:53:20.240 --> 02:53:23.240 interested. Mayor , um, and if there 02:53:23.520 --> 02:53:25.656 isn't, then I'll accept the nomination. 02:53:25.680 --> 02:53:26.936 Thank you. Council Davenport, are there 02:53:26.960 --> 02:53:27.415 any other nominations? 02:53:27.439 --> 02:53:29.016 You like to nominate Council Simpson, 02:53:29.040 --> 02:53:29.816 Mayor . 02:53:29.840 --> 02:53:31.176 Councelor Simpson, do you accept the 02:53:31.200 --> 02:53:31.896 nomination? 02:53:31.920 --> 02:53:34.295 , reluctantly, no. 02:53:34.319 --> 02:53:36.216 Are there any other nominations for the 02:53:36.240 --> 02:53:37.896 position on the Eastern Alliance of 02:53:37.920 --> 02:53:39.415 Greenhouse Action? There is one 02:53:39.439 --> 02:53:41.656 position. 02:53:41.680 --> 02:53:43.096 Councelor Davenport, do you accept the 02:53:43.120 --> 02:53:44.776 nomination? 02:53:44.800 --> 02:53:47.800 I'll accept the nomination. Mayor , 02:53:48.080 --> 02:53:50.136 congratulations, Councelor Davenport. I 02:53:50.160 --> 02:53:53.160 declare you appointed. 02:53:56.240 --> 02:53:58.455 Number two, the Eastern Regional Group 02:53:58.479 --> 02:54:00.776 of Councils. Only one nomination is 02:54:00.800 --> 02:54:02.856 required for the Eastern Region Group of 02:54:02.880 --> 02:54:04.776 Councils as the representatives are set 02:54:04.800 --> 02:54:07.800 as the Mayor of the day and the CEO. 02:54:07.920 --> 02:54:09.656 This council appointment is appointment 02:54:09.680 --> 02:54:12.680 is a 4-year council term commencing 2025 02:54:13.520 --> 02:54:15.816 and concluding 2028. Isn't it three 02:54:15.840 --> 02:54:18.056 years for this term? Three. Can I 02:54:18.080 --> 02:54:20.616 correct that? That is three years. I now 02:54:20.640 --> 02:54:23.255 call for nominations. 02:54:23.279 --> 02:54:24.776 I'd like to nominate Deputy Mayor 02:54:24.800 --> 02:54:25.816 Simpson. 02:54:25.840 --> 02:54:27.255 Deputy Mayor Simpson, do you accept the 02:54:27.279 --> 02:54:27.976 nomination? 02:54:28.000 --> 02:54:29.176 Wholeheartedly. 02:54:29.200 --> 02:54:32.200 Are there any other nominations? 02:54:33.600 --> 02:54:36.295 I declare councelor Simpson or Deputy 02:54:36.319 --> 02:54:37.896 Mayor Simpson to be appointed. 02:54:37.920 --> 02:54:40.920 Congratulations. 02:54:45.520 --> 02:54:47.415 Three, the local government working 02:54:47.439 --> 02:54:49.736 group on gambling. I will now call for 02:54:49.760 --> 02:54:51.736 nominations for vacancies for the local 02:54:51.760 --> 02:54:54.455 government working group on gambling. 02:54:54.479 --> 02:54:56.375 One councelor representative and one 02:54:56.399 --> 02:54:58.856 substitute is required. I now call for 02:54:58.880 --> 02:55:01.880 nominations for the p first position. um 02:55:02.560 --> 02:55:05.176 for this committee. 02:55:05.200 --> 02:55:06.856 I'll nominate myself. Mayor , 02:55:06.880 --> 02:55:09.816 thank you. um councelor Martin. Are 02:55:09.840 --> 02:55:12.840 there any further nominations? 02:55:13.279 --> 02:55:15.096 Congratulations, Councelor Martin. I 02:55:15.120 --> 02:55:18.120 declare you as the um primary first 02:55:18.479 --> 02:55:21.479 position person for this committee. I 02:55:22.560 --> 02:55:24.616 now comment I now call for nominations 02:55:24.640 --> 02:55:26.455 for substitute. 02:55:26.479 --> 02:55:28.776 I'd like to nominate myself, Madame May. 02:55:28.800 --> 02:55:31.335 Thank you, Peter Allen. Councelor Peter 02:55:31.359 --> 02:55:34.359 Allen. Are there any other nominations? 02:55:35.040 --> 02:55:36.936 Congratulations, Peter Allen. You are 02:55:36.960 --> 02:55:38.455 the successful substitute on this 02:55:38.479 --> 02:55:41.479 committee. 02:55:43.040 --> 02:55:44.696 I will now call for nominations for the 02:55:44.720 --> 02:55:47.415 vacancies on the Metropolitan Transport 02:55:47.439 --> 02:55:49.896 Forum. One council representative and 02:55:49.920 --> 02:55:52.536 one substituer required. I now call for 02:55:52.560 --> 02:55:55.016 nominations for the first position. 02:55:55.040 --> 02:55:56.856 May I'd like to nominate councelor 02:55:56.880 --> 02:55:57.656 Martin. 02:55:57.680 --> 02:55:59.096 Councelor Martin, do you accept the 02:55:59.120 --> 02:56:00.375 nomination? 02:56:00.399 --> 02:56:02.375 Um, I'll decline. Thank you. 02:56:02.399 --> 02:56:04.936 Are there any other nominations for the 02:56:04.960 --> 02:56:07.096 POS for the first position on the 02:56:07.120 --> 02:56:10.120 Metropolitan Town Transport Forum? 02:56:12.240 --> 02:56:13.816 Mayor , I'd like to nominate Councelor 02:56:13.840 --> 02:56:14.856 Griffiths. 02:56:14.880 --> 02:56:16.216 Councelor Griffith, do you accept the 02:56:16.240 --> 02:56:19.240 nomination? 02:56:19.279 --> 02:56:20.776 I'll accept the nomination. 02:56:20.800 --> 02:56:22.536 Thank you, Councelor Griffith. Are there 02:56:22.560 --> 02:56:25.560 any other nominations for the first 02:56:25.840 --> 02:56:28.375 position on the Metropolitan Transport 02:56:28.399 --> 02:56:30.936 Forum? 02:56:30.960 --> 02:56:33.496 Congratulations, councelor Griffith. You 02:56:33.520 --> 02:56:36.520 are the winning counselor for the first 02:56:36.560 --> 02:56:38.455 position. 02:56:38.479 --> 02:56:41.479 I declare you appointed. I now call for 02:56:41.600 --> 02:56:43.736 nominations for substitute. Are there 02:56:43.760 --> 02:56:46.136 any nominations for substitute position? 02:56:46.160 --> 02:56:48.056 I nominate myself. Madame May. 02:56:48.080 --> 02:56:49.736 Thank you. Councelor Allen. Are there 02:56:49.760 --> 02:56:52.760 any further nominations? 02:56:54.000 --> 02:56:55.656 As there are no further nominations, I 02:56:55.680 --> 02:56:58.680 declare councelor Allen appointed. 02:57:03.600 --> 02:57:06.295 Thank you, Council Allen. I will now 02:57:06.319 --> 02:57:08.375 call on nominations for the vacancies of 02:57:08.399 --> 02:57:10.616 the Municipal Association of Victoria. 02:57:10.640 --> 02:57:12.216 One council representative and one 02:57:12.240 --> 02:57:14.375 substitute are required. I now call for 02:57:14.399 --> 02:57:15.176 nominations. 02:57:15.200 --> 02:57:15.896 Mayor , 02:57:15.920 --> 02:57:17.576 I'd like to nominate myself. 02:57:17.600 --> 02:57:19.415 Thank you, Deputy Mayor Simpson. Are 02:57:19.439 --> 02:57:22.439 there any further nominations? 02:57:24.399 --> 02:57:25.656 Thank you. As there are no further 02:57:25.680 --> 02:57:28.375 nominations, I declare Deputy Mayor 02:57:28.399 --> 02:57:31.399 Simpson appointed to the first position. 02:57:31.920 --> 02:57:33.816 I now call for nominations for the SPS 02:57:33.840 --> 02:57:35.816 substitute. Are there any nominations 02:57:35.840 --> 02:57:38.840 for the substitute position? 02:57:39.439 --> 02:57:41.255 There's no others. I'll do it again. Be 02:57:41.279 --> 02:57:42.856 substitute. Madame May, I nominate 02:57:42.880 --> 02:57:43.736 myself again. 02:57:43.760 --> 02:57:45.255 Thank you, Councelor Allen. Are there 02:57:45.279 --> 02:57:47.896 any other nominations for the substitute 02:57:47.920 --> 02:57:50.920 position on the MAV? 02:57:52.080 --> 02:57:54.295 As there are no other nominations, I 02:57:54.319 --> 02:57:56.375 declare councelor Allen appointed to the 02:57:56.399 --> 02:57:59.399 substitute position. 02:58:03.040 --> 02:58:06.040 Okay. I now call for nominations for the 02:58:07.439 --> 02:58:09.096 Whitehorse Business Group and the 02:58:09.120 --> 02:58:10.696 vacancy there. There are two positions. 02:58:10.720 --> 02:58:12.536 I call nominations for the first 02:58:12.560 --> 02:58:13.576 position. 02:58:13.600 --> 02:58:15.176 U Mayor , I would like to nominate 02:58:15.200 --> 02:58:16.375 yourself for this one of those 02:58:16.399 --> 02:58:17.896 positions, please. 02:58:17.920 --> 02:58:19.656 Thank you, Councelor Martin. I accept 02:58:19.680 --> 02:58:21.816 the nomination. Are there any further 02:58:21.840 --> 02:58:24.840 nominations for the first position? 02:58:25.760 --> 02:58:27.415 I'll nominate myself for the second 02:58:27.439 --> 02:58:28.056 position. M. 02:58:28.080 --> 02:58:29.255 Well, we're doing the first position 02:58:29.279 --> 02:58:31.255 right now. Thank you, Council Martin. 02:58:31.279 --> 02:58:33.736 Point of order. Um, I understand for 02:58:33.760 --> 02:58:36.375 roles that where there's two counselors 02:58:36.399 --> 02:58:38.216 and it's done as one election. I I asked 02:58:38.240 --> 02:58:40.056 a clarification question about that 02:58:40.080 --> 02:58:42.455 earlier. I wanted to know, 02:58:42.479 --> 02:58:43.736 councelor Martin, I accept your 02:58:43.760 --> 02:58:45.736 nomination. 02:58:45.760 --> 02:58:47.415 Are there any further nominations for 02:58:47.439 --> 02:58:50.439 the Whitehorse Business Group? 02:58:50.560 --> 02:58:52.216 As there are no further nominations, I 02:58:52.240 --> 02:58:54.696 declare Council Langford appointed and 02:58:54.720 --> 02:58:56.216 Councelor Martin appointed. 02:58:56.240 --> 02:58:58.295 Congratulations, Council Martin. 02:58:58.319 --> 02:59:01.319 Thank you. 02:59:03.680 --> 02:59:05.255 I will now call for nominations for the 02:59:05.279 --> 02:59:07.255 vacancies on the Whitehorse Manningham 02:59:07.279 --> 02:59:10.056 Regional Library Corporation. There are 02:59:10.080 --> 02:59:13.016 two positions. I call for nominations 02:59:13.040 --> 02:59:15.496 for both positions. Madame May, I move 02:59:15.520 --> 02:59:18.056 councelor Weller and councelor Davenport 02:59:18.080 --> 02:59:19.576 for the two positions. 02:59:19.600 --> 02:59:21.176 Do you accept the nomination, Councelor 02:59:21.200 --> 02:59:21.896 Weller? 02:59:21.920 --> 02:59:22.616 I do, Mayor . 02:59:22.640 --> 02:59:24.056 Do you accept the nomination? Councelor 02:59:24.080 --> 02:59:24.776 Davenport? 02:59:24.800 --> 02:59:25.656 I do, Mayor . 02:59:25.680 --> 02:59:27.896 Are there any other nominations for the 02:59:27.920 --> 02:59:29.496 position on the Whitehorse Manningham 02:59:29.520 --> 02:59:32.520 Regional Library Corporation? 02:59:35.120 --> 02:59:37.096 As there are no other nominations, I 02:59:37.120 --> 02:59:39.016 congratulate both councelor Weller and 02:59:39.040 --> 02:59:41.096 Councelor Davenport for your 02:59:41.120 --> 02:59:42.856 appointments. 02:59:42.880 --> 02:59:44.375 I will now move to our external 02:59:44.399 --> 02:59:47.399 committees. 02:59:47.760 --> 02:59:49.816 It's written incorrectly on here. So, 02:59:49.840 --> 02:59:52.840 thank you very much. Um, so internal, 02:59:53.439 --> 02:59:56.216 thank you for um, correcting the written 02:59:56.240 --> 02:59:58.375 mistake. 02:59:58.399 --> 03:00:00.295 Um, I will now call on nominations for 03:00:00.319 --> 03:00:02.216 the vacancies of arts and culture 03:00:02.240 --> 03:00:04.375 advisory committee. One council 03:00:04.399 --> 03:00:06.056 representative and one substituer 03:00:06.080 --> 03:00:08.295 required. I will now accommodate a call 03:00:08.319 --> 03:00:11.319 for nominations for the first position. 03:00:11.680 --> 03:00:13.576 Mayor , I'd like to nominate myself. 03:00:13.600 --> 03:00:15.656 Thank you, councelor Cutts. Are there any 03:00:15.680 --> 03:00:18.295 further nominations for the position of 03:00:18.319 --> 03:00:20.936 the first position on the arts and 03:00:20.960 --> 03:00:22.616 cultural advisory committee? 03:00:22.640 --> 03:00:25.496 I'd like to nominate Councelor Griffith. 03:00:25.520 --> 03:00:26.936 Councelor Griffith, do you accept the 03:00:26.960 --> 03:00:28.136 nomination? 03:00:28.160 --> 03:00:29.415 Not this time, Mayor . 03:00:29.439 --> 03:00:31.496 Thank you, Councelor Griffith. Are there 03:00:31.520 --> 03:00:34.520 any other nominations for this position? 03:00:35.120 --> 03:00:37.016 Given there are no further nominations, 03:00:37.040 --> 03:00:39.576 I could declare councelor Cuts 03:00:39.600 --> 03:00:41.496 appointed. Congratulations, Councelor 03:00:41.520 --> 03:00:43.576 Cuts. I now call for nominations for the 03:00:43.600 --> 03:00:46.216 substitute. 03:00:46.240 --> 03:00:47.415 Are there any nominations for the 03:00:47.439 --> 03:00:49.335 substitute position on the arts and 03:00:49.359 --> 03:00:52.359 cultural committee? 03:00:53.439 --> 03:00:55.656 I'll nominate myself, ma'am. 03:00:55.680 --> 03:00:58.375 Thank you, Councelor Martin. Um, are 03:00:58.399 --> 03:01:00.856 there any other nominations? 03:01:00.880 --> 03:01:03.816 As there are no other nominations, I um 03:01:03.840 --> 03:01:06.375 congratulate you Councelor Martin. 03:01:06.399 --> 03:01:09.399 You are now appointed 03:01:11.920 --> 03:01:13.736 Nine. The audit and risk committee. I 03:01:13.760 --> 03:01:15.176 will now call for nominations for the 03:01:15.200 --> 03:01:16.776 vacancies on the audit and risk 03:01:16.800 --> 03:01:18.455 committee. Two counselor representatives 03:01:18.479 --> 03:01:20.455 are required. I now call for 03:01:20.479 --> 03:01:21.736 nominations. 03:01:21.760 --> 03:01:23.415 Yes, Mayor . Oh. 03:01:23.439 --> 03:01:24.776 , councelor Allen. 03:01:24.800 --> 03:01:26.616 Thank you, Madame May. I nominate 03:01:26.640 --> 03:01:29.415 councilors Jared Gun and councelor 03:01:29.439 --> 03:01:31.255 Daniel Griffith. 03:01:31.279 --> 03:01:32.776 Councelor Gun, do you accept the 03:01:32.800 --> 03:01:33.415 nomination? 03:01:33.439 --> 03:01:34.136 Yes, ma'am. 03:01:34.160 --> 03:01:35.496 Councelor Griffith, do you accept the 03:01:35.520 --> 03:01:36.056 nomination? 03:01:36.080 --> 03:01:37.415 Yes, ma'am. Are there any further 03:01:37.439 --> 03:01:40.439 nominations for these positions? 03:01:42.560 --> 03:01:44.455 If there are no further nominations, I 03:01:44.479 --> 03:01:47.176 declare councelor Gun and councelor 03:01:47.200 --> 03:01:49.496 Griffith appointed to the ordinary risk 03:01:49.520 --> 03:01:52.520 committee. 03:01:53.040 --> 03:01:55.736 Enjoy the reading. That's right. I will 03:01:55.760 --> 03:01:57.255 now call for nominations for the 03:01:57.279 --> 03:01:59.415 vacancies on the community safety crime 03:01:59.439 --> 03:02:01.255 prevention committee. One council 03:02:01.279 --> 03:02:03.176 representative and one substitute are 03:02:03.200 --> 03:02:05.496 required. I will now call for 03:02:05.520 --> 03:02:08.520 nominations for the first position. 03:02:08.800 --> 03:02:10.375 May I'd like to nominate myself. 03:02:10.399 --> 03:02:12.536 Thank you, Councelor Cuts. Are there 03:02:12.560 --> 03:02:14.136 are there any other nominations for the 03:02:14.160 --> 03:02:15.816 first position? 03:02:15.840 --> 03:02:17.496 Nominate Councelor Stennet. 03:02:17.520 --> 03:02:18.856 Councelor Sten, you accept the 03:02:18.880 --> 03:02:19.816 nomination? 03:02:19.840 --> 03:02:22.776 yes, Mayor , I do. 03:02:22.800 --> 03:02:25.255 Are there any other further nominations? 03:02:25.279 --> 03:02:26.856 Yes, Mayor . I'll nominate myself, 03:02:26.880 --> 03:02:27.656 please. 03:02:27.680 --> 03:02:30.375 Um we now have Council Martin is also 03:02:30.399 --> 03:02:32.295 nominated. We now have three people 03:02:32.319 --> 03:02:33.816 nominated. There are any further 03:02:33.840 --> 03:02:36.616 nominations to make the interesting vote 03:02:36.640 --> 03:02:39.255 very interesting 03:02:39.279 --> 03:02:40.536 myself may 03:02:40.560 --> 03:02:43.016 congratulations councelor Barka we now 03:02:43.040 --> 03:02:46.040 have four people all right 03:02:54.160 --> 03:02:55.576 just checking are there any further 03:02:55.600 --> 03:02:57.976 nominations for the first position on 03:02:58.000 --> 03:02:59.896 the community safety crime prevention 03:02:59.920 --> 03:03:02.920 committee Sure. 03:03:04.319 --> 03:03:05.896 Well, all in a row. That makes it easy, 03:03:05.920 --> 03:03:08.920 doesn't it? 03:03:09.680 --> 03:03:11.415 I will now call on counselors who are 03:03:11.439 --> 03:03:13.496 seeking to vote for counselor cuts by 03:03:13.520 --> 03:03:15.656 show of hands. I ask that you keep your 03:03:15.680 --> 03:03:17.656 hand up until all names are called out 03:03:17.680 --> 03:03:20.680 so we able to record the votes. Can you 03:03:20.800 --> 03:03:22.616 please um indicate? So that's councelor 03:03:22.640 --> 03:03:24.616 Allen, councelor Wella, councelor 03:03:24.640 --> 03:03:27.255 Simpson, councelor Barker, and councelor 03:03:27.279 --> 03:03:30.279 cuts. That is how many votes? 03:03:31.520 --> 03:03:33.415 Five votes. 03:03:33.439 --> 03:03:35.335 I will now call on counselors who 03:03:35.359 --> 03:03:38.359 seeking to vote for councelor Griffith. 03:03:38.479 --> 03:03:41.415 Point of vote. I didn't nominate myself. 03:03:41.439 --> 03:03:44.439 Can you please fill this in correctly? 03:03:48.640 --> 03:03:50.295 Apologize. I'm just reading straight 03:03:50.319 --> 03:03:52.696 from the script here. 03:03:52.720 --> 03:03:55.255 Okay. I now call on counselors seeking a 03:03:55.279 --> 03:03:58.216 vote for councelor Sten. Um, please vote 03:03:58.240 --> 03:04:00.616 by show of hands. 03:04:00.640 --> 03:04:03.016 Councelor Stennet, Councelor Griffith, 03:04:03.040 --> 03:04:05.496 Councelor Abaka, so sorry. Counsel Oh, 03:04:05.520 --> 03:04:06.696 now I'm getting really counselor 03:04:06.720 --> 03:04:08.136 Griffith, Councelor Gun, Councelor 03:04:08.160 --> 03:04:11.160 Davenport, and Councelor Stennet. 03:04:12.240 --> 03:04:14.696 I now call on councilors seeking to vote 03:04:14.720 --> 03:04:17.720 for councelor Martin, 03:04:17.920 --> 03:04:19.976 Council Allen. Have you voted already, 03:04:20.000 --> 03:04:21.335 Council Allen? 03:04:21.359 --> 03:04:24.359 Yes. 03:04:26.880 --> 03:04:27.335 Sorry. 03:04:27.359 --> 03:04:28.856 No, you can't vote twice, I'm afraid. 03:04:28.880 --> 03:04:31.255 Council Allen, Council Langford, and 03:04:31.279 --> 03:04:33.656 Councelor Martin. 03:04:33.680 --> 03:04:35.816 I will now call on councelor seeking to 03:04:35.840 --> 03:04:37.576 vote for councelor Barker by a show of 03:04:37.600 --> 03:04:40.600 hands. 03:04:41.200 --> 03:04:43.255 You've already voted, councelor Barker. 03:04:43.279 --> 03:04:44.936 There are no votes for councelor Barker. 03:04:44.960 --> 03:04:46.696 So, councelor Barka gets knocked out 03:04:46.720 --> 03:04:48.936 from this round. Is that correct? 03:04:48.960 --> 03:04:50.375 Well, and councelor Martin. 03:04:50.399 --> 03:04:52.856 And councelor Martin. I'm afraid. 03:04:52.880 --> 03:04:55.880 Okay. 03:04:56.800 --> 03:04:59.800 So, we now are voting for the position 03:05:00.080 --> 03:05:01.896 of first position and will be a vote 03:05:01.920 --> 03:05:03.976 between councelor cuts and councelor 03:05:04.000 --> 03:05:04.455 stenet. 03:05:04.479 --> 03:05:06.776 A point of order. Mayor , 03:05:06.800 --> 03:05:08.616 I'm just wondering why councelor Martin 03:05:08.640 --> 03:05:10.216 got dropped. Don't we have to go again? 03:05:10.240 --> 03:05:12.696 No one has the majority. 03:05:12.720 --> 03:05:14.856 Um, 03:05:14.880 --> 03:05:15.656 if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. 03:05:15.680 --> 03:05:16.856 Councelor Martin, you're back in the 03:05:16.880 --> 03:05:18.295 vote. 03:05:18.319 --> 03:05:18.776 No, 03:05:18.800 --> 03:05:20.455 there was no vote here. So, the one with 03:05:20.479 --> 03:05:23.479 the Councelor Cuts. Um, we are now going 03:05:23.760 --> 03:05:25.816 to seek votes for councelor Cuts by show 03:05:25.840 --> 03:05:28.840 of hands. Please raise your hands. 03:05:30.960 --> 03:05:33.960 Um, councelor Allan, Councelor Weller, 03:05:34.640 --> 03:05:37.176 Councelor Simpson, Councelor Barker, 03:05:37.200 --> 03:05:39.415 Councelor Cuts, and Councelor Martin, 03:05:39.439 --> 03:05:42.439 and Council Langford. 03:05:44.240 --> 03:05:46.536 You have um an absolute majority, and 03:05:46.560 --> 03:05:49.415 you are now appointed to the first 03:05:49.439 --> 03:05:50.856 position. 03:05:50.880 --> 03:05:53.415 of the community safety and crime 03:05:53.439 --> 03:05:55.656 prevention committee. 03:05:55.680 --> 03:05:57.096 Congratulations. 03:05:57.120 --> 03:06:00.120 As the chair doesn't say that here on my 03:06:02.160 --> 03:06:03.816 Well, 03:06:03.840 --> 03:06:05.736 I'm getting 03:06:05.760 --> 03:06:07.496 I now call for nominations to the 03:06:07.520 --> 03:06:10.375 substitute. 03:06:10.399 --> 03:06:11.176 Councelor Martin. 03:06:11.200 --> 03:06:12.616 Yes, May. I'll nominate myself. 03:06:12.640 --> 03:06:13.976 Thank you, Councelor Martin. Are there 03:06:14.000 --> 03:06:16.776 any other nominations? 03:06:16.800 --> 03:06:19.016 Mayor , I'd like to nominate. Councelor 03:06:19.040 --> 03:06:20.856 Stennet, I accept your nomination. Any 03:06:20.880 --> 03:06:23.335 other nominations? 03:06:23.359 --> 03:06:26.359 We will now put that to the vote. 03:06:28.800 --> 03:06:30.616 I now call on councelor seeking to vote 03:06:30.640 --> 03:06:32.375 for councelor 03:06:32.399 --> 03:06:35.399 Martin. By a show of hands, um I ask 03:06:35.680 --> 03:06:37.096 that you keep your hands up so I can 03:06:37.120 --> 03:06:38.696 call all the names given I've got a 03:06:38.720 --> 03:06:41.016 croky throat so we're able to record the 03:06:41.040 --> 03:06:44.040 votes. votes for councelor Martin, 03:06:44.240 --> 03:06:46.295 council Allen, councelor Wella, 03:06:46.319 --> 03:06:48.856 councelor Davenport, councelor Simpson, 03:06:48.880 --> 03:06:50.936 council Langford, councelor Barka, 03:06:50.960 --> 03:06:53.960 councelor Cuts, and councelor Martin. 03:06:54.160 --> 03:06:57.016 Um, you have won by majority. I declare 03:06:57.040 --> 03:06:59.176 you the appointed to the position. 03:06:59.200 --> 03:07:02.200 Councelor Martin for substitute. 03:07:08.960 --> 03:07:11.960 This the chair. 03:07:14.479 --> 03:07:16.616 I will now call for nominations for the 03:07:16.640 --> 03:07:18.295 vacancy of the Whitehorse Disability 03:07:18.319 --> 03:07:20.375 Advisory Committee. One council 03:07:20.399 --> 03:07:22.455 representative and one coun and one 03:07:22.479 --> 03:07:24.616 substituer required. I will now call for 03:07:24.640 --> 03:07:27.176 nominations of the chair of the White 03:07:27.200 --> 03:07:29.576 Horse Disability Advisory Committee. 03:07:29.600 --> 03:07:31.816 May I'd like to nominate councelor 03:07:31.840 --> 03:07:32.856 Weller. 03:07:32.880 --> 03:07:34.136 Councelor Weller, do you accept the 03:07:34.160 --> 03:07:35.016 nomination? 03:07:35.040 --> 03:07:35.976 Yes, Mayor . 03:07:36.000 --> 03:07:37.096 Thank you. Are there any other 03:07:37.120 --> 03:07:39.496 nominations for the position of chair of 03:07:39.520 --> 03:07:41.656 the um Whitehorse Disability Advisory 03:07:41.680 --> 03:07:44.056 Committee? 03:07:44.080 --> 03:07:46.056 Seeing as there's no other nominations, 03:07:46.080 --> 03:07:48.136 I declare council Wella appointed to the 03:07:48.160 --> 03:07:50.536 chair of the Whitehorse Disability 03:07:50.560 --> 03:07:52.936 Advisory Committee. Thank you. I will 03:07:52.960 --> 03:07:55.960 now call for nominations for substitute. 03:07:56.800 --> 03:07:58.856 Yes, Mayor . I nominate Councelor 03:07:58.880 --> 03:07:59.656 Griffiths. 03:07:59.680 --> 03:08:01.016 Councelor Griffith, do you accept the 03:08:01.040 --> 03:08:01.736 nomination? 03:08:01.760 --> 03:08:02.375 Yes. 03:08:02.399 --> 03:08:03.816 Thank you, Councelor Griffith. Are there 03:08:03.840 --> 03:08:05.736 any other nominations for the substitute 03:08:05.760 --> 03:08:07.816 on the Whitehorse disability advisory 03:08:07.840 --> 03:08:10.375 committee? 03:08:10.399 --> 03:08:11.415 Given that there are no other 03:08:11.439 --> 03:08:13.096 nominations, I declare councelor 03:08:13.120 --> 03:08:14.696 Griffith appointed to the position of 03:08:14.720 --> 03:08:17.720 substitute. 03:08:35.600 --> 03:08:37.016 I will now call for nominations for the 03:08:37.040 --> 03:08:38.936 vacancies of the domestic animal 03:08:38.960 --> 03:08:41.096 management plan advisory committee. One 03:08:41.120 --> 03:08:43.255 council representative and one substitu 03:08:43.279 --> 03:08:45.656 required. I will now comment call for 03:08:45.680 --> 03:08:48.216 nominations for chair. 03:08:48.240 --> 03:08:50.936 Yes, Mayor . I nominate councel Barker. 03:08:50.960 --> 03:08:52.216 Councelor Barker, do you accept the 03:08:52.240 --> 03:08:53.176 position? 03:08:53.200 --> 03:08:55.656 Nominations. Sorry. Um, are there any 03:08:55.680 --> 03:08:58.680 further nominations for chair of the 03:08:59.279 --> 03:09:01.335 domestic animal management plan advisory 03:09:01.359 --> 03:09:04.359 committee? 03:09:05.760 --> 03:09:08.760 No other nominations. Um, thank you. I 03:09:09.120 --> 03:09:10.696 declare councelor Barker appointed as 03:09:10.720 --> 03:09:13.415 the chair. Congratulations. 03:09:13.439 --> 03:09:16.439 I will now call for nominations for the 03:09:16.560 --> 03:09:18.696 second position. 03:09:18.720 --> 03:09:18.936 May 03:09:18.960 --> 03:09:20.536 nominate councelor Willa. May 03:09:20.560 --> 03:09:21.736 councelor Willer, do you accept the 03:09:21.760 --> 03:09:22.536 nomination? 03:09:22.560 --> 03:09:24.375 Yes, Mayor . Thank you, councelor Wella. 03:09:24.399 --> 03:09:27.399 Are there any other further nominations? 03:09:28.479 --> 03:09:30.856 I now declare councelor Wella appointed 03:09:30.880 --> 03:09:33.880 to the second position. 03:09:35.040 --> 03:09:36.536 I will now call for nominations for 03:09:36.560 --> 03:09:37.976 vacancies of the environmental 03:09:38.000 --> 03:09:40.056 sustainability reference group. One 03:09:40.080 --> 03:09:41.576 council representative and one 03:09:41.600 --> 03:09:43.736 substitute are required for a 2-year 03:09:43.760 --> 03:09:46.616 term. I now call for nominations for 03:09:46.640 --> 03:09:47.335 chair. 03:09:47.359 --> 03:09:50.359 Mayor , I nominate councelor Ben Sten. 03:09:50.640 --> 03:09:52.616 Councelor Senate, do you accept the 03:09:52.640 --> 03:09:53.335 nomination? 03:09:53.359 --> 03:09:54.295 Yes, ma'am. 03:09:54.319 --> 03:09:55.335 Thank you. Are there any other 03:09:55.359 --> 03:09:56.295 nominations? 03:09:56.319 --> 03:09:58.375 May I nominate councelor Simpson? 03:09:58.399 --> 03:09:59.656 Council Simpson, do you accept the 03:09:59.680 --> 03:10:00.295 nomination? 03:10:00.319 --> 03:10:01.576 Yes, ma'am. 03:10:01.600 --> 03:10:03.176 Are there any other nominations for the 03:10:03.200 --> 03:10:06.200 position of chair of the environment and 03:10:06.560 --> 03:10:08.936 sustainably sustainability reference 03:10:08.960 --> 03:10:10.616 group? 03:10:10.640 --> 03:10:12.856 Given that there are no other represent 03:10:12.880 --> 03:10:15.096 no other nominations, I will now call 03:10:15.120 --> 03:10:18.120 for an election. 03:10:21.200 --> 03:10:24.200 Is that the correct order? Yes. 03:10:24.880 --> 03:10:26.536 I now call on those councilors seeking 03:10:26.560 --> 03:10:28.616 to vote for councelor Senate by a show 03:10:28.640 --> 03:10:30.616 of hands. I ask that you keep your hand 03:10:30.640 --> 03:10:32.375 up until all the names are called out so 03:10:32.399 --> 03:10:35.096 we are able to record the votes. This is 03:10:35.120 --> 03:10:36.536 for councelor Stenet. Can you please 03:10:36.560 --> 03:10:39.560 vote? Council Allen, councelor Wella, 03:10:39.760 --> 03:10:42.375 councelor Griffith, councelor Barker, 03:10:42.399 --> 03:10:45.399 councelor Stenett, councelor Martin. 03:10:47.840 --> 03:10:49.736 I now call for those councilors seeking 03:10:49.760 --> 03:10:52.760 a vote for councelor Simpson 03:10:53.120 --> 03:10:55.816 by show of hands. Councelor councelor 03:10:55.840 --> 03:10:57.496 Gun, councelor Davenport, councelor 03:10:57.520 --> 03:10:59.255 Simpson, councelor Langford, councelor 03:10:59.279 --> 03:11:00.776 cuts 03:11:00.800 --> 03:11:03.800 five, six. 03:11:04.399 --> 03:11:06.056 Councelor Stannard, as you received a 03:11:06.080 --> 03:11:07.656 majority, you are now appointed to the 03:11:07.680 --> 03:11:10.680 position of um chair for the environment 03:11:12.479 --> 03:11:15.096 and sustainability reference group. 03:11:15.120 --> 03:11:16.936 Congratulations. 03:11:16.960 --> 03:11:19.960 I declare you appointed. I now call for 03:11:20.000 --> 03:11:22.375 nominations for the substitute. 03:11:22.399 --> 03:11:22.536 May 03:11:22.560 --> 03:11:24.375 I'd like to nominate myself. 03:11:24.399 --> 03:11:25.896 Thank you, Councelor Simpson. Are there 03:11:25.920 --> 03:11:28.455 any other nominations? 03:11:28.479 --> 03:11:30.056 Given that there's no other nominations, 03:11:30.080 --> 03:11:31.976 I declare councelor Simpsons appointed 03:11:32.000 --> 03:11:35.000 as the substitute. 03:11:37.120 --> 03:11:40.120 We're only up to 15 counselors. 03:11:41.840 --> 03:11:44.840 Thank you. Um I now call for 03:11:45.600 --> 03:11:47.736 nominations to the municipal public 03:11:47.760 --> 03:11:49.896 health and well-being plans steering 03:11:49.920 --> 03:11:51.415 committee. 03:11:51.439 --> 03:11:54.439 I call for vac vacancies. Um and there 03:11:54.479 --> 03:11:56.056 are two council representatives 03:11:56.080 --> 03:11:59.016 required. I now call nominations on the 03:11:59.040 --> 03:11:59.976 chair. 03:12:00.000 --> 03:12:01.415 May I nominate myself? 03:12:01.439 --> 03:12:02.936 Thank you councelor cuts. Are there any 03:12:02.960 --> 03:12:05.960 other nominations? 03:12:08.240 --> 03:12:09.576 Sorry there are just two counselors 03:12:09.600 --> 03:12:12.216 nominated to this. , I now call for 03:12:12.240 --> 03:12:14.295 nominations for both both positions. Are 03:12:14.319 --> 03:12:15.656 there any other nominations? 03:12:15.680 --> 03:12:17.335 I'd like to nominate myself. 03:12:17.359 --> 03:12:18.776 Thank you, Councelor Griffith. Are there 03:12:18.800 --> 03:12:21.800 any other nominations? 03:12:21.920 --> 03:12:23.496 Given that there's no other nominations, 03:12:23.520 --> 03:12:25.896 I declare councelor Cuts and Councelor 03:12:25.920 --> 03:12:28.920 Griffith appointed to the municipal 03:12:29.439 --> 03:12:31.496 public health and well-being plan 03:12:31.520 --> 03:12:34.520 steering committee. 03:12:35.439 --> 03:12:37.096 I will now call for nominations for the 03:12:37.120 --> 03:12:40.056 vacancies of the multicultural um 03:12:40.080 --> 03:12:42.295 advisory committee. One council 03:12:42.319 --> 03:12:45.319 representative and one council, excuse 03:12:45.760 --> 03:12:48.760 me, 03:12:54.319 --> 03:12:56.696 apologies. I will now there are two 03:12:56.720 --> 03:12:59.720 positions. One council representative 03:12:59.840 --> 03:13:01.816 who stands as chair and one substitutor 03:13:01.840 --> 03:13:03.656 required. I will now accommodate call 03:13:03.680 --> 03:13:06.216 for nominations for chair. 03:13:06.240 --> 03:13:08.536 I nominate myself madame may. 03:13:08.560 --> 03:13:11.560 Thank you councelor Allen. 03:13:18.560 --> 03:13:20.375 Sorry Mayor um got distracted. I'd like 03:13:20.399 --> 03:13:21.496 to nominate yourself. 03:13:21.520 --> 03:13:24.520 I accept. Thank you councelor Simpson. 03:13:26.560 --> 03:13:28.776 Oh, are there any other are there any 03:13:28.800 --> 03:13:31.736 other nominations for um chair for the 03:13:31.760 --> 03:13:33.415 I'm going to nominate myself too. Let's 03:13:33.439 --> 03:13:34.375 go for an election. 03:13:34.399 --> 03:13:37.016 Okay. Thank you, Councelor Davenport. 03:13:37.040 --> 03:13:39.255 Right. 03:13:39.279 --> 03:13:42.136 I have to now vacate the chair and allow 03:13:42.160 --> 03:13:45.160 councelor Simpson to run the election. 03:13:45.279 --> 03:13:46.536 We have to swap chairs. 03:13:46.560 --> 03:13:48.455 We have to swap chairs. 03:13:48.479 --> 03:13:51.479 No, that's the chair. 03:13:51.600 --> 03:13:53.976 No. I'm Look, I'm I'm happy to stay 03:13:54.000 --> 03:13:55.016 here. 03:13:55.040 --> 03:13:57.496 It's all good. Not yet. I'm thinking of 03:13:57.520 --> 03:13:59.335 the administrative process. Councelor 03:13:59.359 --> 03:14:01.096 Gun. 03:14:01.120 --> 03:14:02.616 Thank you. 03:14:02.640 --> 03:14:04.696 I now I'm going to conduct the election 03:14:04.720 --> 03:14:07.415 for the multicultural committee. I will 03:14:07.439 --> 03:14:09.335 now call on those councilors seeking a 03:14:09.359 --> 03:14:11.335 vote for councelor Allen to please vote 03:14:11.359 --> 03:14:12.936 by show of hands. I ask that you keep 03:14:12.960 --> 03:14:15.335 your hand up until I call call out all 03:14:15.359 --> 03:14:17.255 names so we are able to record the 03:14:17.279 --> 03:14:20.279 votes. All in favor of councelor Allen. 03:14:21.120 --> 03:14:23.496 Councelor Allen. Council Weller. 03:14:23.520 --> 03:14:26.520 Councelor Gun and Councelor Cuts. That 03:14:27.359 --> 03:14:30.359 is four votes. 03:14:30.399 --> 03:14:32.375 We'll repeat the same. I will now call 03:14:32.399 --> 03:14:33.896 on all those counselors seeking to vote 03:14:33.920 --> 03:14:35.576 for Council Langford to please raise 03:14:35.600 --> 03:14:38.600 your hands. 03:14:38.640 --> 03:14:41.016 Councelor Simpson, Mayor Langford, 03:14:41.040 --> 03:14:42.696 and Councelor Martin. That is three 03:14:42.720 --> 03:14:45.720 votes. 03:14:45.840 --> 03:14:47.656 I will now call on those council seeking 03:14:47.680 --> 03:14:49.255 to vote for Council Davenport to please 03:14:49.279 --> 03:14:51.255 raise your hands. 03:14:51.279 --> 03:14:52.776 Councelor Griffith. Councelor 03:14:52.800 --> 03:14:55.096 Davenports, Councelor Barka, and 03:14:55.120 --> 03:14:58.120 Councelor Stenit. That is four votes. 03:14:58.880 --> 03:15:00.936 Accordingly, Mayor , you received the 03:15:00.960 --> 03:15:02.936 lowest number of votes, so you are 03:15:02.960 --> 03:15:05.960 eliminated. 03:15:07.120 --> 03:15:09.496 I we repeat the process. Yep. Thank 03:15:09.520 --> 03:15:11.335 you. All right. We will now repeat the 03:15:11.359 --> 03:15:13.976 process remaining between Councelor 03:15:14.000 --> 03:15:16.455 Allen and Councelor Davenport. So, all 03:15:16.479 --> 03:15:18.455 those in favor of councelor Allen, 03:15:18.479 --> 03:15:20.616 please raise your hand. 03:15:20.640 --> 03:15:23.415 Councelor 03:15:23.439 --> 03:15:26.439 Allen, Council Weller, Councelor Gun, 03:15:26.640 --> 03:15:29.640 Mayor Langford, and Councelor Cuts. That 03:15:29.680 --> 03:15:32.680 is five votes. 03:15:35.040 --> 03:15:36.616 I will now call on those councilors 03:15:36.640 --> 03:15:38.455 seeking to vote for Council Davenport to 03:15:38.479 --> 03:15:41.255 please raise your hands. 03:15:41.279 --> 03:15:42.856 Councelor Griffiths, Councelor 03:15:42.880 --> 03:15:45.335 Davenport, Councelor Simpson, Councelor 03:15:45.359 --> 03:15:47.816 Barka, Councelor Stennet, and Councelor 03:15:47.840 --> 03:15:50.455 Martin. Three, four, five. That's six 03:15:50.479 --> 03:15:51.335 votes. 03:15:51.359 --> 03:15:52.295 So that's declared. 03:15:52.319 --> 03:15:53.896 So councelor Davenport, because you 03:15:53.920 --> 03:15:56.136 received the majority of votes, I now 03:15:56.160 --> 03:15:57.896 declare you elected to the multicultural 03:15:57.920 --> 03:15:59.896 committee. I will now hand back to the 03:15:59.920 --> 03:16:02.920 Mayor . 03:16:03.680 --> 03:16:04.455 Substitute. 03:16:04.479 --> 03:16:07.479 Okay. If you'd like. No, fair enough. 03:16:08.239 --> 03:16:10.696 Um, 03:16:10.720 --> 03:16:12.936 I will now call for nominations for the 03:16:12.960 --> 03:16:14.375 substitute position. 03:16:14.399 --> 03:16:16.056 I'd like to nominate councelor and 03:16:16.080 --> 03:16:17.496 Allan. 03:16:17.520 --> 03:16:20.455 I'll nominate myself. so thank you 03:16:20.479 --> 03:16:22.056 councelor Stennet. you nominated 03:16:22.080 --> 03:16:23.415 councelor Allen. Councelor Allen do you 03:16:23.439 --> 03:16:25.496 accept the nomination? 03:16:25.520 --> 03:16:27.816 I'll yield to the Mayor . 03:16:27.840 --> 03:16:29.096 Councelor Allen has declined the 03:16:29.120 --> 03:16:32.120 nomination. c Mayor I heard you 03:16:32.399 --> 03:16:34.455 next. So nominating yourself. 03:16:34.479 --> 03:16:35.576 I nominate myself. 03:16:35.600 --> 03:16:38.455 Yep. Um therefore is there any other 03:16:38.479 --> 03:16:40.536 nominations? 03:16:40.560 --> 03:16:43.560 Um I'd like to nominate councelor cuts. 03:16:43.920 --> 03:16:45.255 Thank you councelor Griffith. Councelor 03:16:45.279 --> 03:16:46.616 Cuts, you have been nominated. Do you 03:16:46.640 --> 03:16:47.096 accept? 03:16:47.120 --> 03:16:50.056 No I don't. Thank you very 03:16:50.080 --> 03:16:51.335 um again are there any other 03:16:51.359 --> 03:16:53.656 nominations? 03:16:53.680 --> 03:16:55.415 No, Mayor Langford, given that you are 03:16:55.439 --> 03:16:57.096 the only nomination for the substitute, 03:16:57.120 --> 03:16:58.455 you are therefore declared the winner. 03:16:58.479 --> 03:17:00.455 Congratulations and I will now hand the 03:17:00.479 --> 03:17:01.496 chair back to you. 03:17:01.520 --> 03:17:04.520 Thank you. 03:17:06.160 --> 03:17:08.295 How many more have we got to go? We got 03:17:08.319 --> 03:17:11.319 two more. 03:17:12.720 --> 03:17:14.136 I'll now call on nominations for 03:17:14.160 --> 03:17:15.496 vacancies for the White House 03:17:15.520 --> 03:17:17.656 Reconciliation Advisory Committee. One 03:17:17.680 --> 03:17:19.096 council representative and one 03:17:19.120 --> 03:17:21.896 substitute are required. I will call on 03:17:21.920 --> 03:17:24.920 nominations for the chair position. 03:17:28.880 --> 03:17:30.375 Mayor , I'd like to nominate councelor 03:17:30.399 --> 03:17:31.255 Gun. 03:17:31.279 --> 03:17:32.455 Councelor Gun, do you accept the 03:17:32.479 --> 03:17:33.096 nomination? 03:17:33.120 --> 03:17:35.096 Thank you, Councilman. Yes, I do. Mayor , 03:17:35.120 --> 03:17:36.536 are there any further nominations for 03:17:36.560 --> 03:17:37.736 the chair of the White House 03:17:37.760 --> 03:17:40.616 Reconciliation Advisory Committee? 03:17:40.640 --> 03:17:42.536 Seeing as there's no other nominations, 03:17:42.560 --> 03:17:45.560 I will declare councelor Gun appointed 03:17:47.200 --> 03:17:49.415 to the position of chair. 03:17:49.439 --> 03:17:51.016 I now call on nominations to the 03:17:51.040 --> 03:17:52.295 substitute on the Whitehorse 03:17:52.319 --> 03:17:54.536 reconciliation advisory committee. 03:17:54.560 --> 03:17:57.560 I nominate councelor Griffiths. 03:17:58.000 --> 03:17:59.255 Councelor Griffith to accept the 03:17:59.279 --> 03:17:59.896 nomination. 03:17:59.920 --> 03:18:01.496 I'll accept. 03:18:01.520 --> 03:18:02.856 Thank you. Councelor Griffith. Are there 03:18:02.880 --> 03:18:04.536 any other nominations for the position 03:18:04.560 --> 03:18:07.560 of substitute? 03:18:07.840 --> 03:18:09.335 As there are no other nominations, I 03:18:09.359 --> 03:18:11.176 declare councelor Griffith appointed to 03:18:11.200 --> 03:18:14.200 the position of substitute. Thank you. 03:18:14.319 --> 03:18:17.319 Lucky last. 03:18:18.319 --> 03:18:20.375 I will now call on nominations for 03:18:20.399 --> 03:18:22.856 vacancies on the Whitehorse Sports and 03:18:22.880 --> 03:18:24.696 Recreation Reference Group. 03:18:24.720 --> 03:18:26.375 Mayor , I'd like to nominate Council 03:18:26.399 --> 03:18:27.496 Stenett. 03:18:27.520 --> 03:18:29.335 I will now one council representative 03:18:29.359 --> 03:18:31.816 and one substituer required. I now call 03:18:31.840 --> 03:18:33.415 for nominations for the chair. 03:18:33.439 --> 03:18:34.856 Mayor , I'd like to nominate Council 03:18:34.880 --> 03:18:36.776 Sten. Council Sten, do you accept the 03:18:36.800 --> 03:18:38.056 nomination? 03:18:38.080 --> 03:18:41.080 Yes, ma'am. 03:18:42.880 --> 03:18:44.455 Are there any other nominations for the 03:18:44.479 --> 03:18:46.375 position of chair of the sports and 03:18:46.399 --> 03:18:47.896 recreation 03:18:47.920 --> 03:18:50.920 rep reference group? 03:18:51.200 --> 03:18:53.496 Congratulations, councelor Senate. I now 03:18:53.520 --> 03:18:55.896 appoint you as chair of the sports and 03:18:55.920 --> 03:18:58.536 recreation reference recreation 03:18:58.560 --> 03:19:00.375 reference group. I now call for 03:19:00.399 --> 03:19:02.536 nominations for the substitute. 03:19:02.560 --> 03:19:05.560 I nominate councelor Allen. Council 03:19:06.319 --> 03:19:09.319 Allen, do you accept the nomination? 03:19:11.520 --> 03:19:13.016 Are there any other nominations for 03:19:13.040 --> 03:19:15.896 substitute? 03:19:15.920 --> 03:19:17.496 Seeing as there's no other nominations, 03:19:17.520 --> 03:19:19.976 I declare councelor Allen appointed to 03:19:20.000 --> 03:19:23.000 the position of substitute. 03:19:36.319 --> 03:19:39.096 I'll now put the motion um for the 03:19:39.120 --> 03:19:40.455 council appointments to committees, 03:19:40.479 --> 03:19:42.696 organizations, and community bodies. Can 03:19:42.720 --> 03:19:43.736 I have a mover? Happy 03:19:43.760 --> 03:19:44.616 to move, Mayor . 03:19:44.640 --> 03:19:46.295 Thank you, councelor Gun. Can I have a 03:19:46.319 --> 03:19:46.936 second? 03:19:46.960 --> 03:19:48.375 I'll second. May. 03:19:48.399 --> 03:19:51.255 Thank you, councelor Martin. I I now put 03:19:51.279 --> 03:19:54.215 the motion. All those in favor? 03:19:54.239 --> 03:19:57.239 Carried unanimously. 03:20:04.000 --> 03:20:07.000 Item 10.8 c records of informal meetings 03:20:07.359 --> 03:20:09.976 of counselors. Can I have a counselor to 03:20:10.000 --> 03:20:11.176 move the report? 03:20:11.200 --> 03:20:12.536 I'll move. May. 03:20:12.560 --> 03:20:13.976 Thank you. Councelor Martin, can I have 03:20:14.000 --> 03:20:15.736 a counselor to second the report? 03:20:15.760 --> 03:20:16.375 Second. 03:20:16.399 --> 03:20:18.616 Thank you, councelor Weller. Would you 03:20:18.640 --> 03:20:19.976 like to speak to the motion? Councelor 03:20:20.000 --> 03:20:20.455 Martin? 03:20:20.479 --> 03:20:21.415 No. Thank you. 03:20:21.439 --> 03:20:23.016 Councelor Weller, 03:20:23.040 --> 03:20:24.616 nothing further to add. Mayor , 03:20:24.640 --> 03:20:26.616 thank you. , I will now put the 03:20:26.640 --> 03:20:29.496 motion. All those in favor? The motion 03:20:29.520 --> 03:20:32.520 is carried unanimously. Thank you. 03:20:40.479 --> 03:20:43.096 Item 11.1, councelor delegate and 03:20:43.120 --> 03:20:46.056 conferences and seminar reports. Reports 03:20:46.080 --> 03:20:48.856 by delegates and sorry, reports by 03:20:48.880 --> 03:20:51.576 delegates and reports on conferences and 03:20:51.600 --> 03:20:54.375 seminar attendance. I remind councilors 03:20:54.399 --> 03:20:56.295 if you have not submitted written 03:20:56.319 --> 03:20:58.295 reports for the minutes to keep your 03:20:58.319 --> 03:21:01.319 verbal report brief. I will now commence 03:21:01.920 --> 03:21:04.920 with Deputy Mayor councelor Simpson. 03:21:05.279 --> 03:21:06.776 nothing to add Mayor . 03:21:06.800 --> 03:21:08.536 Thank you 03:21:08.560 --> 03:21:10.136 councelor Davenport. 03:21:10.160 --> 03:21:12.616 Well the first day I was no longer 03:21:12.640 --> 03:21:15.640 Mayor Mayor I got my pleasure to attend 03:21:16.479 --> 03:21:19.479 the eager meeting and um I was eager for 03:21:20.160 --> 03:21:23.160 that. Um but I will submit the um 03:21:23.680 --> 03:21:26.375 minutes of meeting um to that and I'm 03:21:26.399 --> 03:21:28.536 sure that a number of councilors in the 03:21:28.560 --> 03:21:30.856 room will be very eager to read those. 03:21:30.880 --> 03:21:31.976 Thank you Mayor . 03:21:32.000 --> 03:21:34.215 Thank you councelor Davenport. We were 03:21:34.239 --> 03:21:36.536 we are eager to hear those to read 03:21:36.560 --> 03:21:39.496 those. Um councelor Gun 03:21:39.520 --> 03:21:40.616 I forwarded a report on the 03:21:40.640 --> 03:21:42.295 reconciliation action group and the 03:21:42.319 --> 03:21:44.536 sport and wreck committee. it's all 03:21:44.560 --> 03:21:47.096 in the report. will forward the 03:21:47.120 --> 03:21:49.736 document the Warandre Warong 03:21:49.760 --> 03:21:51.656 Aboriginal Corporation whole of country 03:21:51.680 --> 03:21:54.616 plan for those that are interested. 03:21:54.640 --> 03:21:55.976 Thank you councelor Gun. Councelor 03:21:56.000 --> 03:21:57.016 Griffith 03:21:57.040 --> 03:21:58.776 I've submitted written reports and 03:21:58.800 --> 03:22:00.295 nothing to add here today. 03:22:00.319 --> 03:22:02.136 Thank you councelor Griffith. Councelor 03:22:02.160 --> 03:22:02.856 Weller 03:22:02.880 --> 03:22:04.536 nothing to report Mayor . 03:22:04.560 --> 03:22:06.136 Councelor Allen 03:22:06.160 --> 03:22:07.656 nothing to report madam me. 03:22:07.680 --> 03:22:08.536 Councelor Martin. 03:22:08.560 --> 03:22:11.016 Um yes Mayor . On the 18th of the month, 03:22:11.040 --> 03:22:12.536 I attended the Whitehorse Business 03:22:12.560 --> 03:22:14.136 Group board meeting. And then on the 03:22:14.160 --> 03:22:16.295 19th of the month as well, I attended 03:22:16.319 --> 03:22:17.976 the local government working group for 03:22:18.000 --> 03:22:19.255 gambling. 03:22:19.279 --> 03:22:20.056 Thank you. 03:22:20.080 --> 03:22:22.856 Thank you, Councelor Martin. Councelor 03:22:22.880 --> 03:22:23.496 Cuts. 03:22:23.520 --> 03:22:24.536 No report made. 03:22:24.560 --> 03:22:26.215 Thank you, Councelor Sten. 03:22:26.239 --> 03:22:28.056 Thank you, May. Just a brief report. 03:22:28.080 --> 03:22:29.816 20th of November, I attended the final 03:22:29.840 --> 03:22:31.255 meeting of the White House Sports and 03:22:31.279 --> 03:22:32.776 Recreation Reference Group for the year 03:22:32.800 --> 03:22:35.800 with councelor Gun in my role as Deputy 03:22:35.920 --> 03:22:38.295 chair. Um the group group had been very 03:22:38.319 --> 03:22:40.056 able chaired by councelor Gan who 03:22:40.080 --> 03:22:41.576 successfully balanced keeping meetings 03:22:41.600 --> 03:22:43.656 on track but encouraging open freer 03:22:43.680 --> 03:22:45.976 ranging discussion and participation. Um 03:22:46.000 --> 03:22:47.255 this year's group has been well 03:22:47.279 --> 03:22:48.776 represented across a wide range of 03:22:48.800 --> 03:22:51.016 sports and recreational activities and 03:22:51.040 --> 03:22:52.776 we reflected on a highly successful 03:22:52.800 --> 03:22:54.375 awards evening. There was some 03:22:54.399 --> 03:22:55.976 discussion about refining the award 03:22:56.000 --> 03:22:57.976 categories and improving the promotion 03:22:58.000 --> 03:23:00.295 of the nomination process to incl 03:23:00.319 --> 03:23:02.295 encourage broader participation. I'd 03:23:02.319 --> 03:23:03.976 like to sincerely thank council officers 03:23:04.000 --> 03:23:05.656 and committee members for their 03:23:05.680 --> 03:23:07.176 contribution throughout the year. 03:23:07.200 --> 03:23:08.776 Council is now recruiting for the next 03:23:08.800 --> 03:23:10.856 reference group and I look forward to 03:23:10.880 --> 03:23:12.375 working with the new members next year. 03:23:12.399 --> 03:23:13.415 Thank you, ma'am. 03:23:13.439 --> 03:23:15.096 Council Barker, 03:23:15.120 --> 03:23:16.536 , no report, ma'am. 03:23:16.560 --> 03:23:19.415 Um, and myself, I also attended the 03:23:19.439 --> 03:23:21.016 Whitehorse Business Group board meeting 03:23:21.040 --> 03:23:23.816 on the 18th of November. 03:23:23.840 --> 03:23:25.976 Council, I seek someone I seek someone 03:23:26.000 --> 03:23:29.000 to move um, these reports. 03:23:29.279 --> 03:23:30.295 Happy to move. 03:23:30.319 --> 03:23:31.736 Thank you, councelor Weller. and to 03:23:31.760 --> 03:23:32.696 second. 03:23:32.720 --> 03:23:33.736 Happy to second. Mayor , 03:23:33.760 --> 03:23:35.896 thank you, Councelor Simpson. I put 03:23:35.920 --> 03:23:38.920 these reports to the vote. 03:23:39.120 --> 03:23:42.120 Carried unanimously. Thank you. 03:23:44.080 --> 03:23:46.455 As item 12, confidential reports. As 03:23:46.479 --> 03:23:48.056 there are no confidential reports this 03:23:48.080 --> 03:23:50.776 evening, I am now going to close the 03:23:50.800 --> 03:23:52.776 meeting. The next ordinary council 03:23:52.800 --> 03:23:54.536 meeting of council will be held on 03:23:54.560 --> 03:23:57.560 Monday, the 8th of December, 2025. I 03:23:57.600 --> 03:24:00.455 close the meeting at 10:38 03:24:00.479 --> 03:24:03.479 p.m. and 47 seconds. Enjoy the rest of 03:24:03.920 --> 03:24:06.920 your evening. Good night.